Have Cole talk about how they got disturbing footage of a backstage fight. Give all the trigger warnings or whatever and just show footage of a normal backstage fight.
@@kurtking8046 Portray it as an altercation before the Raw after mania and recreate the video frame for frame. Punk and Drew talking, Drew puts Punk in a headlock, someone breaks it up, Drew yells at Triple H, storms off to compete in the fatal 4 way #1 contender match they had.
All it showed was punk pushed jungle boy and put him a standing Guillatin headlock and get separated lunge at Tony by the wall telling him something. It proved punk was telling the truth, Tony lied because there was no reason for him to fear for his life. Less than 5 min after does a banger with Joe. But yet punk is making money in wwe and from aew through publicity.
It's become depressing to watch devolve into one mans playground. Ironic, it was created as an alternative to one man treating an entire company as a personal toy room. Yet, here we are.
I really tried to get into Aew a couple times but now I just watch the matches on CZcams. And honestly I think it’s better that way, I’m not sure they need a tv show. They seemingly don’t care about the things that happen in between, and I enjoy Aew a lot more when I don’t have to see the bucks and the 40% of matches that are coordinated stunt acts and only see the good stuff
I don’t think you understand how bad WCW 2000 was.maybe we can talk when a celebrity wins a world title to promote a movie that’s been out for 3 weeks and the world title is vacated 18 times in a week
CM punk didint really get fired he actually quit i mean he literally said that but tony khan being delusional tried to stay face saying his life was in danger an he had to fired punk even tho punk said he quit twice
Dude the official review board all said he was fired. Just because punk is right about tiny being a joke dosnt mean he ain’t gonna lie about other shit.
@billbrennan2347 so what point are you trying to make 🤷. Obviously he couldn't just quit bcnhe was under contract I was pointing out the fact the he no longer wanted to do busy with Tony khan and he stated once Tony that he wanted to leave and Tony wouldn't let him. That was before collision was even a show.
But they’ll say WWE talks CONSTANTLY about AEW, when really all it was was Punk answering questions on a podcast, and triple H making a statement with no names involved on another podcast. The stuff with Osprey and HHH is so silly. He didn’t say your name, but if the shoe fits and you get upset maybe there’s some merit to what he’s saying.
So here's the thing, when it was essentially being characterized as CM Punk just flew off the handle and attacked Perry, and HE was the one that went up to Perry and demanded a fight, I was on the side of he earned the firing. But now that we've got the footage and it lines up exactly with what Punk said, and the fact he is saying Perry was the one that gave him the line "what're you going to do about it?", my perspective has shifted. If that's the truth, Perry instigated that fight. Which makes this basically your garden variety dust up in a sports locker room. I know they're performers, but they're also athletes. And in athletic spaces this kind of thing is a bit more common.
All this did was prove what punk said was mostly correct, people have placed what punk said on MMA hour and put it over the fight video, it all for the most part aligns with what punk said.
Gonna disagree about wrestlers being fired for snatching up other wrestlers. They’ve been handling it that way since before either of us were wrestling fans. This isn’t Target. Who are we to say how they should handle personal issues? Especially, looking at it through today’s passive and sensitive lens. If every wrestler who squabbled with another guy got fired, most of our GOATs would’ve had two-year careers.
Yes exactly. Seems super naive by fans. They are comparing a locker room with athletes to their experiences working in offices or at a store. Athletes get into fights, especially in wrestling. It's not the end of the world.
This was a waste of time. What made it worse/funnier was FTR coming out after essentially asking why are we going in reverse. I thought the actual excitment from the show was Billy GOATs promo which also came across petty yet still a good fiery promo.
Anyone with a brain knew this wasn't going to go the way Tony and company expected it to. No one's mind was changed. Definitely not CM Punk's, especially when the video was spot-on to how he described it. That said, you were spitting facts this entire video. A single episode ratings boost featuring two people who don't work for your company right now. Even if Perry is still employed, he's not there. It did nothing.
When shit hits the fan that when someone's real character shines through. Tony has been riding high on his early success (which is very impressive), but when things go wrong and not everything is smooth sailing, THAT'S when the true test of character comes. So far, Tony has proven time and time again thay when shit goes south, he is NOT well equipped to deal with it the right way, and this goes ALL the way back to that Hangman promo. At this point, more than anyone else, TK is AEW's biggest liability. And if he doesn't smarten up and learn from these mistakes thisbis gonna end real bad.
They should have played this right after it happened, justifying Punk's termination and taking all the heat and mystery away. Instead, they sit on it for eight months while people say all kinds of dumb shit, then play it as part of a corny segment.
Absolutely not. Punk is hotter than the sun right now, even while injured. He was involved in the second biggest storyline and has a major feud with Drew McIntyre going. After coming back at Survivor Series, Punk has been absolutely nuclear. Airing this right after the Wbley incident would have served no purpose. But doing this now, right as Punk is setting the world on fire? Absolutely. The video doesn't hurt Punk. At all. Right now, he could be punting babies off of cliffs and he probably would still get cheered. But while he is this hot and you have a video of him in an actual fight? Show it! Get some views out of it. OH AND BY THE WAY HERE IS CODY'S BROTHER WRESTLING SAMOA JOE FOR THE TITLE
@@randomlyfactual1943I think the point is why show that video NOW for that exact reason. It does absolutely nothing for AEW the company because there was a risk of it backfiring and may help punk who works at your biggest competitor now. And for what? A cheap ratings pop for a week or 2 maybe? All this did is make them look even more unprofessional and also makes Tony khan look like a terrible owner.
@@brando8888888888 Why now? Because Punk currently is hotter than the sun. He is bulletproof. He is untouchable. If Punk kicked a baby into the abyss tomorrow, he would still get cheers. This video - no matter what it showed - would not have hurt him or helped him in the least. But, AEW is getting clout out of this. Had they released the footage back then, it would have gotten milk interest. But now, after Punk came back to the WWE and set the world on fire? Oh yeah, they are getting a lot of attention now.
@@randomlyfactual1943yeah, but the thing was cm punk's image was already hurt then, his facade of "Mister Anti Wrong" was already breaking after All In, people actually believed in Tony and found Punk's firing justified already. (obviously minus his diehards and Cornette) They still wouldve gotten clout either way, people would still have the same reactions, etc, etc. What would be different if they released it then and now?
@@samzonDx I hope I can bypass the CZcams censors. In the early 80's, Sylvester Stallone starred in an adult film called _The Party At Kitty and Stud's._ This movie would make Sharknado look like The Godfather. So suddenly, Stallone stars in Rocky and he becomes a megastar overnight. So the company that released the low rent adult film then changed the name of the film to "The Italian Stallion" to try and cash in on that Rocky fame. It worked; the film got a ton more screenings and made a lot more money. The negatives sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars years later. I think we have the same thing with the Punk video. It's not about whether Punk was proved right or wrong; it's the fact that back then Punk was not nearly as hot as he is today. Punk generated tons of online activity after his WWE return. Made it to the final two in the rumble. Appeared in the ring with Reigns, Heyman, Rollins, McIntyre and Rhodes. Even after his injury, he verbally jousted with the participants in the world heavyweight title picture. He was on guest commentary at WrestleMania. He was in the ring with Cody's triumph. He was an analyst for ESPN. That was his Rocky moment and AEW just decided to change the name of the adult film. You get me?
I’m my opinion, this proves they’ve always embellished stories to make Punk look bad. Release the brawl out footage showing the Bucks storming into the locker room and well know why they signed nda agreements.
The worst part is that CM Punk was never fired he literally quit Tony Khan never had the balls to fire him that just speaks to Punk being right that Tony isn't a boss at all
I totally agree with you sooplex to some extent that CM punk did somewhat deserve to get fire. However like a great saying goes if you avoid some battles you can end up fighting wars. Which is what Tony Kahn did and look at where that got him. Honestly I do think this fall 90% on Tony Khan at the end of the day.
these types of fights happen in lorckerrooms ALL the time. This is only surprising to people like Tony who never saw dealt with this before. This was super minor, like something that could go down and be talked out in WWE back in the day;
“What do you want me to do?” Its like Punk said, BE THE BOSS! Take control, set the standards, hold people accountable Tony. Stop being a mark and be the man in charge.
I think this hurts AEW when trying to sign free agents. This is professional wrestling shit like this happens a lot more then you’d think. It just usual never comes out until year later.
1. Punk wanted to get fired. Tony created Collision and split his roster instead. 2. Punk did an interview and the video matches his account of the fight. 3. Punk is pretty damn explosive. He had him across the room and in a reverse face lock in about a second. 4. The video makes one guy look like a bitch and another guy look like a savage. 5. WWE is probably very happy with the publicity Punk got... expect a big segment next week... Drew and Punk will have a field day with this!
@pleaseshutup7053 I love punk, but his biggest talent is his mouth. I love his ring work, but I just don't think professional fighting is an area where he has talent to be at a top level. But he can protect himself and he moves pretty damn quick.
@@ThailandDantotherescueyeah people think just because he sucked in ufc he don’t know how to fight at all but I think they don’t realize he had to get some kind of mma training so he know some moves
At this point the the only way for AEW to have fans become interested to show is to have a huge overhaul in a way that Tony Khan should just step down and just take charge in the funding of the company. He already has a whole lot of negative heat in which people don't take the show as seriously anymore.
I keep seeing people say Drew should play into this on Raw, but I completely disagree. If WWE acknowledges this on the nose it’ll only feed into what AEW wants. They want a back and forth. If Punk and Drew have a banger segment and blow whatever nonsense AEW is doing out of the water, that’s the real W. No selling AEW’s desperate attempt for a reaction would make their point clear.
So should Bret have gotten fired for the fight with shawn back stage. Back stage fights are common back stage in wrestling in all sports really yet they can still make money together.
Sooplex fustrates me sometimes, he says CM Punk deserves to be fired but fails to acknowledged the fight between Sammy and Eddie or any Sammy fight for that matter and the fights that happened in WWE the realitiy of the situation is that Punk quit so it was staged as a firing no wrestling company in their right minds is firing the biggest draw they have unless they really did something really messed up which in the case of Punk it wasn't. Its wrestling of course their gonna be fights its the nature of the business for better or worse, I swear this guy started watching wrestling in 2015.
In Sooplex's stream I saw "Curtain Call vibes", I've seen a lot of "Finger Poke of Doom vibes", but this to me honestly kinda feels like when Nitro spoiled Mankind winning the title on that night's Raw, which made basically everybody stop watching Nitro to watch it happen
As a fan this was embarrassing! Tk has no balls and couldn't lead people to the bathroom ! I don't like punk but this shit just made him look better. The bucks ....uuuugh ! I lost respect for them for making this crap happen. In general I agree with a lot of your points , man this was embarrassing to AEW , not the wrestling industry.
Firing him may have been the right thing to do but it was also a dumb thing to do. They handed their most productive asset to the WWE and prevented themselves from ever being serious competition
The fight yes should have never got to that point and should have been handled by management or HR but who would that be?? Tony sees whats going on and he as a boss allowed it to escalate. Tony being "scared" and just standing there didn't help...he should have had security immediately get between Punk and Perry so no hands would be thrown but no... Punk even told Tony K to do something .. i cant fully blame Punk for that, Perry probably said something slick and he got hands put on him... Tony is the real clown for letting the issues brew in the back
Threw a punch? Lol he just pushed him and btw what was that about lunging at tony Khan 😂 come on man you can at this point say you hate cm punk rather than this go and see ariel helwani interview where cm punk exactly explains everything how it went down and that's what was shown in the footage too smh... It's better do something better than to tarnish another person's hard earned fame. No disrespect intended
BAHAHAHA this is starting the legend of the Scapegoat Jack Perry he's getting cheered while being the heel in the hometown of Punk and the iwc was saying Punk and wwe are the only one's benefiting from it
It's pro wrestling, shawn and bret beat the shit out of each other and they still managed to draw money together. A fight is NOT a fire-able offense in sports. Tony Clown should act like a boss instead of trying to be one of the boys
Vince russo destroyed wcw and many careers ti be honest I side with cornette and not russo its russos own fault cornette and other people hate him in my opinion
Jack Perry got neither punched out or bitched out. He got attacked and it got broken up before he really got a chance to try to defend himself. Would Punk beat Perry in a fight? Yes Did Perry “lose” this fight? Nah. And Punk also didn’t lose. It was a no contest.
Im honestly confused with the reaction to these backstage fights. I get the vibe that for wrestlers, especially veterans, throwing hands is a last resort way to get beef squashed so they can move on to make money. How many times have we heard stories and shit about "the boys taking it to the parking lot" to settle shit? Why are we calling for firings on what seems like backstage tradition? This is a ton of juiced up males we are talking about here
TK should’ve done his job back when brawl out happened he literally sat there and let punk go off on his evps but all he did was suspend them and then when they returned he gave the elite the trios titles and punk the world title and then after the punk vs jungle boy thing happened he suspended Jack and gave punk a whole show in collision and after that punk still left
I think Tony life was not in danger CM Punk just yell at him said I quit and went back too his true home. Tony let them show this because they are lossing audience attentence and it look like the AEW ship is about too sink.
To clarify Punk never punched Jack Perry or anyone else in the footage if you actually pay attention to the footage he just shoved him shoved Jack Perry and Punk never lied by the way so I have no idea if that’s what your referring to.
For real this entire shit killed by interest in following AEW or North American wrestling. I’m gonna stick with NJPW and NOAH for the future. This stuff was embarrassing and I’m over it
It sucks that the other people in the company who actually know how wrestling works (like Tony Schiovane, who clearly didn't want to run this segment) are affected by the lack of self awareness and stupidity of the people in charge
Here's my thing, in any state in this country, this footage would get Punk charged and Convicted of Assault and Battery. No Contest he has No Defense. Jack Perry is probably out of the country so hes unavailable for questions from Law Enforcement cause to keep punk out of Jail Perry would have to perjure himself. Punk approached Jack Punk initiated the conversation Punk attacked Jack with Zero Warning But Punk wants to keep taking shots on WWE and anywhere else. People should be Thank AEW for stifling this footage and keeping Punk out of court. Now he's hiding behind wwes skirt
The person benefitting the most from all of this is Drew McIntyre 😂
Lmaoo😂
and seth😂
Drew and Seth is eating next week.
Drew is gonna cook on Monday 🔥
I’m sure that drew is not allowed to say this stuff on Monday night raw right???
Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a segment where drew and punk fought backstage
I swear I said this with bi undertaker 😅
😂😂😂
If I'm WWE I would do it
Have Cole talk about how they got disturbing footage of a backstage fight. Give all the trigger warnings or whatever and just show footage of a normal backstage fight.
@@kurtking8046 Portray it as an altercation before the Raw after mania and recreate the video frame for frame. Punk and Drew talking, Drew puts Punk in a headlock, someone breaks it up, Drew yells at Triple H, storms off to compete in the fatal 4 way #1 contender match they had.
Poor Tony… Schiovane.
I feel bad for him cause the flashback from year 2000
The poor guy was back in Nam.
Fortunate Son
I legit feel bad for Schiovane he looked so broken.
That'll put some butts in seats
All it showed was punk pushed jungle boy and put him a standing Guillatin headlock and get separated lunge at Tony by the wall telling him something. It proved punk was telling the truth, Tony lied because there was no reason for him to fear for his life. Less than 5 min after does a banger with Joe. But yet punk is making money in wwe and from aew through publicity.
He probably told Tony he quits like he said in the interview
You notice how there was no audio
Most security cameras don't have audio
Seth and Drew rn: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
Bro, you don't understand, Tony was scared for his life.
With piss running down his leg
😂😂😂 sure
Punk answered the questions because he knew how aew would react and prove him right
As a massive AEW fan, I can't support AEW anymore
LMFAOOOO nice try E fan🤣
It’s tough dude. I love the talent especially Joe and swerve but Tony is just killing it.
Will ospreay Joe and serve my only reasons
It's become depressing to watch devolve into one mans playground.
Ironic, it was created as an alternative to one man treating an entire company as a personal toy room.
Yet, here we are.
I really tried to get into Aew a couple times but now I just watch the matches on CZcams. And honestly I think it’s better that way, I’m not sure they need a tv show. They seemingly don’t care about the things that happen in between, and I enjoy Aew a lot more when I don’t have to see the bucks and the 40% of matches that are coordinated stunt acts and only see the good stuff
0:40 Even the auto-captions knew that Tony was a con-artist 😭
We went from Alternative to WcW 2000 real fast.
TNA is a better alternative than AEW at this point😂
I don’t think you understand how bad WCW 2000 was.maybe we can talk when a celebrity wins a world title to promote a movie that’s been out for 3 weeks and the world title is vacated 18 times in a week
TNAEW or AEWCW?? 🤣😭🤣
It was never really an alternative.
@Yeetusdeletus897 Id take David Arquette over the Young Bucks fr fr
As a wrestling fan, this shit was embarrassing AF. Wouldn't be surprised if WWE does a parody of this 😅
Tony khan to punk - " punk, you know and i know that you are half the man that i am............. and i have half the brain that you do"😂😂😂
Not the Sid promo.
DIJAK is gonna have a great time with this on twitter
Even shawn spears poked fun at this😂
Him and Grayson waller already been cooking in the paint
@@1KQ_ Booker T is as well
He already did haha
CM punk didint really get fired he actually quit i mean he literally said that but tony khan being delusional tried to stay face saying his life was in danger an he had to fired punk even tho punk said he quit twice
Dude the official review board all said he was fired. Just because punk is right about tiny being a joke dosnt mean he ain’t gonna lie about other shit.
@billbrennan2347 so what point are you trying to make 🤷. Obviously he couldn't just quit bcnhe was under contract I was pointing out the fact the he no longer wanted to do busy with Tony khan and he stated once Tony that he wanted to leave and Tony wouldn't let him. That was before collision was even a show.
@@billbrennan2347he literally quit he told Tony infront if his face that he quit
They dedicated so much time to WWE between this and Will Osprey shooting on HHH. FOCUS ON YOUR OWN PRODUCT.
But they’ll say WWE talks CONSTANTLY about AEW, when really all it was was Punk answering questions on a podcast, and triple H making a statement with no names involved on another podcast.
The stuff with Osprey and HHH is so silly. He didn’t say your name, but if the shoe fits and you get upset maybe there’s some merit to what he’s saying.
Even if Drew doesn't resign with WWE wtf would cross his mind to sign with them
$$$$
He's definitely already re-signed
Money and schedule he said he wants to be around his family more
Drew’s main gripe with his contract was his creative. With all this shit landing right in his lap, I doubt he’s going anywhere any time soon.
@@KairiPrime incorrect Drew’s main gripe is he wants Cody level money with Roman schedule
So here's the thing, when it was essentially being characterized as CM Punk just flew off the handle and attacked Perry, and HE was the one that went up to Perry and demanded a fight, I was on the side of he earned the firing. But now that we've got the footage and it lines up exactly with what Punk said, and the fact he is saying Perry was the one that gave him the line "what're you going to do about it?", my perspective has shifted.
If that's the truth, Perry instigated that fight. Which makes this basically your garden variety dust up in a sports locker room. I know they're performers, but they're also athletes. And in athletic spaces this kind of thing is a bit more common.
Drew McIntyre be like "i prayed for this.. AND IT HAPPENED"
He use to pray for times like this
And immediately after they aired the "fight," Aew starts copyright striking all the footage. Yeah. Bad ideas are bad
And then then the punk chants lol
All this did was prove what punk said was mostly correct, people have placed what punk said on MMA hour and put it over the fight video, it all for the most part aligns with what punk said.
Gonna disagree about wrestlers being fired for snatching up other wrestlers. They’ve been handling it that way since before either of us were wrestling fans. This isn’t Target. Who are we to say how they should handle personal issues? Especially, looking at it through today’s passive and sensitive lens.
If every wrestler who squabbled with another guy got fired, most of our GOATs would’ve had two-year careers.
Yes exactly. Seems super naive by fans. They are comparing a locker room with athletes to their experiences working in offices or at a store. Athletes get into fights, especially in wrestling. It's not the end of the world.
Punk wanted to quit multiple times that’s why they fired him
That shit made me cringe 🤣
“IDGAF I still stand by it 💅”
Is anybody just sitting back and enjoying the ride that AEW/WWE are taking us on?🤙🏻
Me, want some popcorn?🍿😁
This was a waste of time. What made it worse/funnier was FTR coming out after essentially asking why are we going in reverse.
I thought the actual excitment from the show was Billy GOATs promo which also came across petty yet still a good fiery promo.
Tony Schiavone REALLY told us with his reaction, all this did was really prove Punk right and make Perry look expendable af which is sad.
Tony Schiavone is having Nam flashbacks
💥🪖😳🎙💥
Anyone with a brain knew this wasn't going to go the way Tony and company expected it to. No one's mind was changed. Definitely not CM Punk's, especially when the video was spot-on to how he described it.
That said, you were spitting facts this entire video. A single episode ratings boost featuring two people who don't work for your company right now. Even if Perry is still employed, he's not there. It did nothing.
When shit hits the fan that when someone's real character shines through. Tony has been riding high on his early success (which is very impressive), but when things go wrong and not everything is smooth sailing, THAT'S when the true test of character comes.
So far, Tony has proven time and time again thay when shit goes south, he is NOT well equipped to deal with it the right way, and this goes ALL the way back to that Hangman promo.
At this point, more than anyone else, TK is AEW's biggest liability. And if he doesn't smarten up and learn from these mistakes thisbis gonna end real bad.
Drew bout to have a new shirt on Monday
Which will outsell AEW's collective merch sales...
Xavier should release Saraya video in retaliation 😂😂
ohhhh boooy
The internet encourages effeminate conduct
Lmaoo
Cm Punk getting tv time in both brand is crazy, lol. Drew be like Cm Punk cant choke me like that.
Best in the world for a reason
They should have played this right after it happened, justifying Punk's termination and taking all the heat and mystery away. Instead, they sit on it for eight months while people say all kinds of dumb shit, then play it as part of a corny segment.
Absolutely not.
Punk is hotter than the sun right now, even while injured. He was involved in the second biggest storyline and has a major feud with Drew McIntyre going. After coming back at Survivor Series, Punk has been absolutely nuclear.
Airing this right after the Wbley incident would have served no purpose. But doing this now, right as Punk is setting the world on fire? Absolutely.
The video doesn't hurt Punk. At all. Right now, he could be punting babies off of cliffs and he probably would still get cheered. But while he is this hot and you have a video of him in an actual fight? Show it! Get some views out of it. OH AND BY THE WAY HERE IS CODY'S BROTHER WRESTLING SAMOA JOE FOR THE TITLE
@@randomlyfactual1943I think the point is why show that video NOW for that exact reason. It does absolutely nothing for AEW the company because there was a risk of it backfiring and may help punk who works at your biggest competitor now. And for what? A cheap ratings pop for a week or 2 maybe? All this did is make them look even more unprofessional and also makes Tony khan look like a terrible owner.
@@brando8888888888 Why now? Because Punk currently is hotter than the sun. He is bulletproof. He is untouchable. If Punk kicked a baby into the abyss tomorrow, he would still get cheers. This video - no matter what it showed - would not have hurt him or helped him in the least.
But, AEW is getting clout out of this. Had they released the footage back then, it would have gotten milk interest. But now, after Punk came back to the WWE and set the world on fire? Oh yeah, they are getting a lot of attention now.
@@randomlyfactual1943yeah, but the thing was cm punk's image was already hurt then, his facade of "Mister Anti Wrong" was already breaking after All In, people actually believed in Tony and found Punk's firing justified already. (obviously minus his diehards and Cornette) They still wouldve gotten clout either way, people would still have the same reactions, etc, etc. What would be different if they released it then and now?
@@samzonDx I hope I can bypass the CZcams censors.
In the early 80's, Sylvester Stallone starred in an adult film called _The Party At Kitty and Stud's._ This movie would make Sharknado look like The Godfather.
So suddenly, Stallone stars in Rocky and he becomes a megastar overnight. So the company that released the low rent adult film then changed the name of the film to "The Italian Stallion" to try and cash in on that Rocky fame. It worked; the film got a ton more screenings and made a lot more money. The negatives sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars years later.
I think we have the same thing with the Punk video. It's not about whether Punk was proved right or wrong; it's the fact that back then Punk was not nearly as hot as he is today.
Punk generated tons of online activity after his WWE return. Made it to the final two in the rumble. Appeared in the ring with Reigns, Heyman, Rollins, McIntyre and Rhodes. Even after his injury, he verbally jousted with the participants in the world heavyweight title picture. He was on guest commentary at WrestleMania. He was in the ring with Cody's triumph. He was an analyst for ESPN.
That was his Rocky moment and AEW just decided to change the name of the adult film. You get me?
I’m my opinion, this proves they’ve always embellished stories to make Punk look bad. Release the brawl out footage showing the Bucks storming into the locker room and well know why they signed nda agreements.
The worst part is that CM Punk was never fired he literally quit Tony Khan never had the balls to fire him that just speaks to Punk being right that Tony isn't a boss at all
Hey sooplex, you have been doing good work lately, keep it going...❤❤❤
after seeing that pop on Sunday, this aged like milk
2:00 that’s just old fashioned locker room
I totally agree with you sooplex to some extent that CM punk did somewhat deserve to get fire. However like a great saying goes if you avoid some battles you can end up fighting wars. Which is what Tony Kahn did and look at where that got him. Honestly I do think this fall 90% on Tony Khan at the end of the day.
these types of fights happen in lorckerrooms ALL the time. This is only surprising to people like Tony who never saw dealt with this before. This was super minor, like something that could go down and be talked out in WWE back in the day;
“What do you want me to do?” Its like Punk said, BE THE BOSS! Take control, set the standards, hold people accountable Tony. Stop being a mark and be the man in charge.
Bet they won’t show the footage of the other incident 😂😂😂😂
Yeah cause Tony has an nda😂
Massive L for Tony Khan. This hurts to see what AEW has become.
Bro AEW rode off the clout of 3 WWE employees for ratings last night.
I wanted them to succeed but come on this shit is weak.
I think this hurts AEW when trying to sign free agents. This is professional wrestling shit like this happens a lot more then you’d think. It just usual never comes out until year later.
Its time for tk and the evps to be relived of there power as an AEW fan for this company to survive and succeed these three can no longer be in power
"Tony Con"
Brother Sooplex kicking facts. Respect bro.
1. Punk wanted to get fired. Tony created Collision and split his roster instead.
2. Punk did an interview and the video matches his account of the fight.
3. Punk is pretty damn explosive. He had him across the room and in a reverse face lock in about a second.
4. The video makes one guy look like a bitch and another guy look like a savage.
5. WWE is probably very happy with the publicity Punk got... expect a big segment next week... Drew and Punk will have a field day with this!
I wish punk started his ufc career in his early 30s and not late 30s he might have had a chance. Not when his body was broken
@pleaseshutup7053 I love punk, but his biggest talent is his mouth. I love his ring work, but I just don't think professional fighting is an area where he has talent to be at a top level. But he can protect himself and he moves pretty damn quick.
@@ThailandDantotherescueyeah people think just because he sucked in ufc he don’t know how to fight at all but I think they don’t realize he had to get some kind of mma training so he know some moves
My guy that jersey is fire
At this point the the only way for AEW to have fans become interested to show is to have a huge overhaul in a way that Tony Khan should just step down and just take charge in the funding of the company.
He already has a whole lot of negative heat in which people don't take the show as seriously anymore.
That was bad what aew did the other day.
This so bad now that if AEW dies ring of honour is next 😢
Schiavone had WCW flashbacks
That jersey is fire bro
I keep seeing people say Drew should play into this on Raw, but I completely disagree. If WWE acknowledges this on the nose it’ll only feed into what AEW wants. They want a back and forth. If Punk and Drew have a banger segment and blow whatever nonsense AEW is doing out of the water, that’s the real W.
No selling AEW’s desperate attempt for a reaction would make their point clear.
Drew McIntyre already made the first tweet referencing this lmao, he’s got so much material! Tony Khan absolutely shit the bed with this decision.
So should Bret have gotten fired for the fight with shawn back stage. Back stage fights are common back stage in wrestling in all sports really yet they can still make money together.
Less than a month ago: “AEW HAS RESTORED THE FEELING”
Current: “I haven’t watched AEW in months”
Imagine Drew and Punk doing an angle inspired by the All-In footage, turning into a parody, that would be the most hilarious segment of all time...
sooplex holy fuck bro he quit, didnt get fired
Sooplex fustrates me sometimes, he says CM Punk deserves to be fired but fails to acknowledged the fight between Sammy and Eddie or any Sammy fight for that matter and the fights that happened in WWE the realitiy of the situation is that Punk quit so it was staged as a firing no wrestling company in their right minds is firing the biggest draw they have unless they really did something really messed up which in the case of Punk it wasn't. Its wrestling of course their gonna be fights its the nature of the business for better or worse, I swear this guy started watching wrestling in 2015.
Its the fact that Joe is standing right there...and nobody is talking about that.😂😂😂
In Sooplex's stream I saw "Curtain Call vibes", I've seen a lot of "Finger Poke of Doom vibes", but this to me honestly kinda feels like when Nitro spoiled Mankind winning the title on that night's Raw, which made basically everybody stop watching Nitro to watch it happen
What's the point of edge/Copeland's promo again?
I think Tony Khan want to say please say come back resign from WWE I need you this is what Tony want from this video😂
The polar opposite body language of Chris Hero and Malakai Black is my favorite part of the footage
As a fan this was embarrassing! Tk has no balls and couldn't lead people to the bathroom ! I don't like punk but this shit just made him look better. The bucks ....uuuugh ! I lost respect for them for making this crap happen. In general I agree with a lot of your points , man this was embarrassing to AEW , not the wrestling industry.
Atp aew is goofy for this like what is this supposed to prove
It's exactly what he said 😅
There's even a video to line the footage and what he said up
Ahh wrestling more drama than a daytime soap opera, more petty than high school. Got to love it 😂
The only way this helps them with ppv buys is if they are going to tease Jack helping the bucks win the titles
Do you think he wanted to be fired?
I agree.
Hey man, your subtitles could use some work
Drew is about to have a field day with this💀💀💀💀💀
And at the very least they're trying to work it into the storyline with FTR
Firing him may have been the right thing to do but it was also a dumb thing to do. They handed their most productive asset to the WWE and prevented themselves from ever being serious competition
The fight yes should have never got to that point and should have been handled by management or HR but who would that be?? Tony sees whats going on and he as a boss allowed it to escalate. Tony being "scared" and just standing there didn't help...he should have had security immediately get between Punk and Perry so no hands would be thrown but no... Punk even told Tony K to do something .. i cant fully blame Punk for that, Perry probably said something slick and he got hands put on him...
Tony is the real clown for letting the issues brew in the back
Threw a punch? Lol he just pushed him and btw what was that about lunging at tony Khan 😂 come on man you can at this point say you hate cm punk rather than this go and see ariel helwani interview where cm punk exactly explains everything how it went down and that's what was shown in the footage too smh... It's better do something better than to tarnish another person's hard earned fame. No disrespect intended
Damn Tony almost died here. Can’t believe CM Punk.
cm punk told no lies and is always right, and there was no punches involved
AEW arguably has the best top end roster in the entire industry. They should be above this.
Do you think Jack Perry is going to appear at Dynasty and join the Bucks
BAHAHAHA this is starting the legend of the Scapegoat Jack Perry he's getting cheered while being the heel in the hometown of Punk and the iwc was saying Punk and wwe are the only one's benefiting from it
You could see it on Tony Schavanie’s face.
Doing this clown stuff right after the most successful WM of all time is crazy to me.
Backstage fights has been around forever
It's pro wrestling, shawn and bret beat the shit out of each other and they still managed to draw money together. A fight is NOT a fire-able offense in sports. Tony Clown should act like a boss instead of trying to be one of the boys
I'm beginning to think we owe Vince Russo an apology (kinda)
Vince russo destroyed wcw and many careers ti be honest I side with cornette and not russo its russos own fault cornette and other people hate him in my opinion
All it did was benefit CM Punk and Drew McIntyre.
Jack Perry got neither punched out or bitched out.
He got attacked and it got broken up before he really got a chance to try to defend himself.
Would Punk beat Perry in a fight? Yes
Did Perry “lose” this fight? Nah. And Punk also didn’t lose.
It was a no contest.
I wonder if they showed this to bring jack Perry back to see? Possibly at dynasty
Im honestly confused with the reaction to these backstage fights. I get the vibe that for wrestlers, especially veterans, throwing hands is a last resort way to get beef squashed so they can move on to make money. How many times have we heard stories and shit about "the boys taking it to the parking lot" to settle shit? Why are we calling for firings on what seems like backstage tradition? This is a ton of juiced up males we are talking about here
TK should’ve done his job back when brawl out happened he literally sat there and let punk go off on his evps but all he did was suspend them and then when they returned he gave the elite the trios titles and punk the world title and then after the punk vs jungle boy thing happened he suspended Jack and gave punk a whole show in collision and after that punk still left
Remember when Brock threw the title at Vince? I don't recall Vince saying "he was afraid for his life"
I think Tony life was not in danger CM Punk just yell at him said I quit and went back too his true home. Tony let them show this because they are lossing audience attentence and it look like the AEW ship is about too sink.
To clarify Punk never punched Jack Perry or anyone else in the footage if you actually pay attention to the footage he just shoved him shoved Jack Perry and Punk never lied by the way so I have no idea if that’s what your referring to.
For real this entire shit killed by interest in following AEW or North American wrestling. I’m gonna stick with NJPW and NOAH for the future. This stuff was embarrassing and I’m over it
CM Punk wasn't lying after all, he pushed and choked Jack Perry just a little bit.
It sucks that the other people in the company who actually know how wrestling works (like Tony Schiovane, who clearly didn't want to run this segment) are affected by the lack of self awareness and stupidity of the people in charge
I can understand what you’re saying just fine
Here's my thing, in any state in this country, this footage would get Punk charged and Convicted of Assault and Battery. No Contest he has No Defense. Jack Perry is probably out of the country so hes unavailable for questions from Law Enforcement cause to keep punk out of Jail Perry would have to perjure himself.
Punk approached Jack
Punk initiated the conversation
Punk attacked Jack with Zero Warning
But Punk wants to keep taking shots on WWE and anywhere else. People should be Thank AEW for stifling this footage and keeping Punk out of court. Now he's hiding behind wwes skirt
Literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen in the history of television.
Sooplex Punk didn’t get fired he quit on spot after that scuffle. Tony then “fired” him to save face.