Yamaha CLP 745 Digital Piano. Detailed Review 2: Sound Banks Demo with Classical music examples.
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- Good news! Finally completed the review of my new piano. Sorry it took so long, but I was very thorough, and the beastly thing turned out to be over an hour and my laptop repeatedly refused to render it as a whole😂, so I had to cut it into 4 parts: 1.Action. 2.Sound+ musical examples. 3.Features. 4.Cabinet, Resume + Comparison. So it is another (unintentional) mini-series.😆This way will also be easier for you to choose the parts you are most interested in, in case you do not want to watch the entire series:) Enjoy!
Part 2 content:
0:00 Intro
0:18 Main Sound Samples
3:17 Touch Change Options
3:48 CFX Scale
5:03 Bösendorfer Scale
5:48 Mozart Piano Scale
7:10 Chopin Piano Scale
8:16 Musical Examples Mozart Piano
9:30 Examples Chopin Piano
10:34 Examples CFX Grand
12:08 Examples Bösendorfer
13:42 Tone Comparison
14:40 Dynamics: response gradation to touch
I tried to include all the information that I feel competent at delivering and consider important in choosing a digital piano. I hope this information will be of help to some of you, while you might be choosing an instrument without getting an access to it in person before buying.
Best of luck!
👩🏻🏫🎹 - Hudba
I recently bought a Yamaha Clavinova CLP-745. It's a marvelous musical instrument, and has been a game-changer for me as a novice/intermediate piano player. Now I look forward to sitting down and practicing. It makes everything sound so resonant that I feel like practicing more to bring out the best I can in the music.
I learned some useful things from this excellent video that I did not know before about my CLP-745.
Daria, you have the most genuine, unbiased reviews that I so very much enjoy. You’re playing is amazing and sublime. Please continue giving more reviews as we sincerely enjoy immensely. I wanted to get the Yamaha AvantGrand N1x however, after calling Yamaha Australia I was advised that I will have to wait for at least over one year to get one so I’ll be getting the Yamaha Clavinova CVP-809GP which should arrive around November hopefully.
Love your unbiased and professional review! Your mini series about playing acoustic vs digital are the best!
Thanks so much much! I really appreciate your feedback!!🙏🙂
Fantastic demonstration!
This is a really nice review! I’m on the look out for a better piano since starting to learn to play, 17 months ago. This may be one that I explore. Had no idea about the Mozart and Chopin piano sounds - very nice! I do love the Bosendorfer sample sound from the video!
Great review, as usual! What have always surprised me is how these composers managed to create wonderful pieces that would have sound perfectly on instruments not existing at their times!
Thanks!😊 Yes, I absolutely agree with your point! These masterpieces are timeless and for any instrument modern or historical.
You know why?
They didn’t create music, they create expressions that resonate with every human being, historical and present. Indeed, such a blessing!
And, God bless you!
Wow great review! I've been taking lessons for 6 months and want to splurge on a new digital piano, but I think I'll keep on taking lessons for another year before upgrading. I have a friend's old acoustic piano, but I don't like keeping up with the tuning so I think a digital piano is in my future. I also like the MIDI capability of this CLP.
I tried the 745 at the store and left impressed
You just convinced me to get the 745. Thanks Daria!
I am glad I could help with a choice! Hope you will be happy with the instrument!👍
Really useful, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Great informative video thanks
Glad it was helpful!👍🏻👩🏻🏫🎹
Thanks for the interesting video.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks!!!
Hello great and helpful video. The sound is beautiful. What color finish do you have? Does it look nice in real living room? I cannot choose between matte black or rosewood. What a difficult choice. Thanks for the answer.
Great review! Have you ever tried Yamaha Clp 775, some people say that it has too heavy action, but on paper it looks far better than Grandtouch-s action.
nice piano 👏
Thanks!😄
Hi Daria - those chords sounded amazing for being a digital. If you had to choose between a smaller upright, such as a Yamaha B2/B3 and a high-end digital like the 745 (or higher), based purely on sound and touch, which would you choose?
How are the keys weighted? I'm mainly buying this piano, cause of that! Can they compare to a regular piano!
Is the CLP 745 sound in your videos coming out of the speakers and then recorded with a microphone ? Or are you using the Line Out feature to record directly into the video?
I like the Mozart and Chopin piano samples
me too!!🎹👍🏻
How do you feel about the speakers on this compared to p 515 in terms of balance and clarity?
Great question, I knew I forgot to cover something....the speakers.. I like them! They are under the piano, but it does not make them quiet or muffled. They are very good I think. I like them probably the same as the p515, hard to remember exactly at this point, I also have the piano in a different space, so really difficult to compare with our having them side by side. Maybe I like the 745 speakers slightly better, no distortion, very clear sound. But I did not have problems with p515 either. Sorry, I am not sure it helps answer your question.
Hello Daria. I saw your previous comparison between acoustic. So, did you try to set up resonance settings? I found in documentation that all of them set to 5 as default (0-10)
Hi Kanstantsin! Thanks for the question, yes, I usually set my resonance setting at around 7 and 8. They are by default at 5, correct.
I mention my setting in my other video description.
czcams.com/video/CydhRS04BAY/video.html
Thanks for watching!🙂
@@Dariafortepiano Thanks, I found this video after I put a comment :). Anyway the difference of the resonance is huge between acoustic piano as from your comparison. In acoustic it`s like human breath... :) I think the ideal case to have combined (electric/acoustic) piano. But price uh....
When I was little real young I wanted to learn piano so bad I would go to my friend's house a block away when she had her lessons and sit in the corner so I could hear whatever I could, has always been that way
Oh, that is very sincere way to love music and piano...:)
Is it still a good idea to buy a CLP 745 these days? From what I understand that model is 3 years old and Kawai just came out with the CA501. Have you had a chance to try it out?
I have not tried the Kawai model you mentioned, but I myself do not like the CLP 745 so much for what it's worth, compared to P515 for example. I think it's a bit overpriced and the action is a bit light to my taste. So if you like the new Kawai model, go for it. I just like the Yamaha sound better, that's why I go for the Yamaha.
The keyboards were different back then they had narrower keys easier to play spreads etc and there is an entire video about it on you tube, talking about the DS pianos made with less spread. Made in Pennsylvania
so true! that's way Chopin tempi seem insane sometimes. haha
My teacher actually has a special keyboard made for her small hands with 3/4 key size.
Nice and interesting demo, thank you Daria......
My pleasure! 😁👍🏻
@@Dariafortepiano 😍 Still in USA, right?
the P515 and CLP745 both have Bosendorfer Imperial... but if it wasn't that great on the P515, was it due to the speakers on P515 not as good? In that case a good headphone should be able to tell... so if in fact it is not due to the speakers, maybe they didn't do a good job at getting a good Bosendorfer sample on the P515...
I think it is indeed the sample issue. The samples were updated with clp 745 and it is much better IMO.
@@Dariafortepiano I looked at the Soft Imperial, CFX, Bosendorfer, Steinway voices from Vienna Symphonic Library (VSL), and they seem to sample it from so many places: at the piano, in the room, in the seated area of the concert hall... so for example, what if P515 uses the Bosendorfer sound "in the room" or at the front row of the concert hall? Then to the pianist, the sound would sound like "how come it is so far away?"
Does the virtual resonance modeling make a difference?
Of course it does, I think it's the engine behind those adjustments of the various resonances and customizations. What I'm more intrigued about what Grand Expression Modeling does (if it really does something), because thats one of key differences in specs from the earlier models (also from the P515).
love your channel! You are very talented!
I have a question!
Is the clavinova 745 much better than the 735? Do the 745's wooden keys make much of a difference?
Hi Max, thank you for your nice feedback about my channel!
About your question, the clp 735 also has wooden white keys, but the action is previous generation. Same as p515 model.
So the difference between 735 and 745 is the type of action. I mention is in the action part of the video series. There is a comparison between p515 and clp 745.
745 has more refined response, if we are speaking bery basic terms. But the weight I like better on 735 model. It seems more satisfying, is feels heavier. 735 feels lighter. But you might like a lighter one, it is a preference after all.
Hope this helps.
@@Dariafortepiano Thanks for the answer !
I'm a singer and songwriter here in Brazil, but my dream is to play the piano and learn to read sheet music.
I'm already studying music theory!
Thanks for the affection!
@@max.1981 very cool! Best of luck to you with your piano learning!:)
hi. how do you find this piano (now) compared to the 515...better? worse?
I have a brief comparison in the last part of the review. But in short, for what it is worth I believe the p515 to be better value for money. Yet, the updated sound banks of the clp 745 are much better, especially the Bösendorfer! So there are many details which differ and depending on what your needs are one or the other can be better. If I had to choose now between them after having them both, I would choose p515 because of the price difference
@@Dariafortepiano Daria, I can't find a P515 to demo in my living area. I can only "order it" and see what comes when it arrives. I was also looking at the Roland Rd-88 and Roland RD-2000. Comments? Suggestions? What I really need is a responsive - acoustic - like feel and sound and your videos are great and please continue...
Thanks. It's me or you don't use the five fingers when you play scales at that speed? Sorry if that's a silly question.
Haha, not a silly question. I use all 5 fingers for scales, or at least 4:) this were not scales, just 3-note patterns, so I reused the most comfortable fingerings 2-3-4. 😁
@@Dariafortepiano Ah, ok. It makes sense. Thanks.
Amazing talent!! Quick question goddess of Piano. My wife has a clp model 430 circa 2012. Is 745clp a much better piano then that model? Christmas is coming soon, and I might take the plunge if it is. Thanks,
Hi, thank you for your comment and question! I have not personally played on the 430 model, so I can only judge about the difference based on the specs, and the main differences will be: linear graded action, ( heavier keys on the bottom and lighter on the top) , wooden components of the white keys ( feel and touch will be more solid and less plasticky), the sound bank!! ( much bigger bank and the CFX and Bösendorfer, along with period pianos) that the clp 745 will give you, that 430 doesn't have. ( also the 745 looks more elegant with less buttons, if it is at all important to you).So you can decide how important these details are to you. To me this makes a world of difference between them:) best of luck with your decision!
@@Dariafortepiano thank you very much for the detailed response. You are the best!
Which One do you Prefer? The P515 or the CLP 745?
Hi Stephen, thank you for the question. If we are considering value for money then I definitely like p515 more! If in terms of features, then 745 is a more advanced model, with updated sounds banks amd other features.
Overall the sad part is that I preferred the action of the p515, but the sound banks of the clp 745. And since sound for me is more important, I am co tent with clp 745 for the moment. Although I do think it's a bit overpriced. I would prefer a heavier action with the good soundbanks, this is why I say I would be happier with clp 775 or 785, based on specs. But have not tried either in person. Hope this helps🙂
@@Dariafortepiano Yes helps a Lot, Thank you Daria. 🌹
Fortepianos in the 18th century are typically 5 octaves F-F
It's only me to find the CFX/Bosendorfer sounding somehow... lifeless on the CLP7x5 series? I'd probably go for a Kawai or a Roland instead today if the P515 wouldn't be good enough.
I actually think the period instruments sounded the most authentic, the modern pianos have some slight artificial boxy effect IMO. Great review BTW, unfortunately there's is not so many reviews where they try to demonstrate the nuances between different sounds.
Yes, I also like the period instruments on this one! It is so much joy and fun to play on them, very different to try to control the sound compared to the modern samples. Thank you for your kind comment! 😊👩🏻🏫🎹
You are a great player and presenter..))). Thank you!
The Chopin waltz though is still a waltz, I think, and too slow here...?
And I had the rare chance to play on historical pianos last week at the university of music HSLU in Lucerne, Switzerland. It is a totally different world and sound. The keys of the instruments are much easier to play fast and have a sound not decaying so quickly. The Yamaha cannot mimic this here at all, sorry...)))
Hi Roland, thank you so much for your kind comment! haha, yes, the waltz would be faster in the performance, it is just that I wanted to show the nuances that you can get with the sound in this piano, so wanted to take it slow and even slower for the Mozart minuet😅
I envy you for having a chance to try these period instruments! I never tried, so I wouldn't know how they compare to these samples in authenticity. Thank you for sharing your experience! 🙏🏻
I bought the 745 but i hate the sound of bosendorfer on the speaker. It's too muffled im pretty sure it wouldnt with a true bosendorfer. And the CFX sound like electric piano especially with headphone xd And the CFX voice is exactly the same with Mellow piano.
I completely agree with you. I hate the sounds and speakers of 745 and I regret selling my old Arius 103 😢
@@SaraG6270 We agree 😭 i mean i can't hear clearly the voice of the piano even with louder volume. And the binaural is disgusting making it like electric. Maybe you think Kawai Ca 59 would be better?
@@SaraG6270 The action i feel like its a toy piano idk why
@@TheLegend-ph5pn before buying the 745, I tried a Kawai CA49 and it was even worse. The sound, the speakers, the aesthetics were bad. Only the key action was slightly better, but the sound was really too bad. So I wouldn't move to Kawai, but maybe there are better models than CA49.
@@TheLegend-ph5pn true 😢 I sold my Arius just because I wanted a better action and a more realistic piano feel, but the improvement wasn't worth the price. And the keys make the same clicking noise of the cheaper models. I'm seriously considering selling it and go back to Arius, maybe the 164.
Bosendorfer sound like not real grand..😭😭
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