Man, Myth, Mathematician - Pythagoras of Samos - Genius
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- samos-magazine.nl - The story of Pythagoras is one of innovation, change, determination and sheer genius. As an accurate picture of his life emerges, it is clear that there was more to this great man than one single, simple truth -- here was a great mathematician, philosopher and political leader.
This Documentary describes Pythagoras. It was produced by Cromwell Productions in 1996.
This is one of the best Pythagorean documentaries I've ever seen.
Can you recommend more like this one.. the presentation, the music etc
@@user-ud2vq1nr1e I found this one on youtube around the same time, and I think it's from the same series of productions, or at least is very similar. czcams.com/video/YnTdOiSJc3U/video.html
It's about the Gnostic Christians and even features the late Rosamonde Miller. She was a great and influential Tau and her church is still active in Redwood City.
Thanks for this comment, it saved me time looking for a quality doco after ytubes removed the thumbs up. 😊
He sounded like a good man, good heart. Thanks for the share!
I'm learning about this guy for meditation.
26:04
600 B.C: Pythagoras discovered the earth is spherical.
2020 A.D: People with access to the internet believe it’s flat!
This’s the definition of regression!
Lol I don't know why they say that when the only thing he said was round that doesn't mean spherical. Is probably edited by mainstream media.
2024 americans drink beer
2050 alcohol is banned cause idiots drank alcohol and too many homeless cause brain damage
Pythagoras studied for 23 years at the University in kemet (Africa) where he learned math, writing, physical science, religion and the supernatural alongside Thales, Hippocrates, Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato.
Lol, whats ur source?😂
He spend 20 years in egypt. Got initiatied in the mysteries of the egyptians by the temple priests. Spend another 12 years in persia with the Magi of Zoroaster.
@@giuseppe1430and for those who dont know, after he went to the various foreign schools he found they all had things in common and started syncretizing them into his own system wherein he not just syncretized them but expanded on them as best he could because he saw there were still things to say that hadnt been said.
I met a great man similar to Pythagoras,,Double A who shall be remembered for centuries to come just as my son.
32:55
Man with great vision...
He was able to see future....
Much more to learn from his teachings and theories..
I will swim on the past. GREAT Men are not death. Thank you.
Fascinating... thanks for this documentary !
Thanks for sharing this!
It is a bit confusing that a bust of Socrates (8:35) as well as a bust of Aristotle (21:11) are shown to represent Plato. And again a bust of Socrates (35:25) is used to represent Aristotle. Furthermore it contradicts itself, saying that Pythagoreanism lasted half a century (42:12) as well as several hundred years (6:38).
Must watch! ❤
This Is Awesome TY!
he greek minian ( minoan )tablet found at Agia Triada Crete , at display today at the archaeological museum of Heraclion Crete , proves knowledge of geometric fractional progress that Euclid defined after 1200 years !
For all his greatness this cheesey video with those actors do him no justice none at all,,,
22:13 equality? what other plato's republic could they be referencing? i was unaware that there were multiple versions
i have to make a reflection essay from this video omfg
How did it went?
Everything the greeks learned was from kemet, thats why they traveled to Africa was to get knowledge because their was none in Europe. He learned the earth was a sphere from kemetians/africans.
Lame. Your sad. North Africans were middle eastern and Semitic mostly, but not all. Some Black. But you mixing lies with truth for what ends? 💭
@@karamlevi there were no berbers or north Africans as you think around at the time. Hell, anyone can go and see the face masks of pharaohs. Keep up your European and Arab revisionism, it's hilarious.
I didn't like math but after seeing this video ❤
Why would you square something? That’s a good question. It seems like a very contrived non intuitive thing to do, yet someone back then saw significance in it and it was crucial to the development of mathematics.
Its extending a one dimensional object into a 2 dimensional object. It is intuitive and not contrived. It's just like extending a square into a cube: which is extending a 2 dimensional object into a 3 dimensional object aka "cubing".
Where can I find the whole interview from the first scene?
Yea I would love to sit and talk to that guy
Diiiiieeeeee!
Got rid of orgies and gave us the thing were you pat your head and rub your belly at the same time... wow. Thank you so much, Pythagoras.
this is not a very comprehensive documentary, he did a lot more than what is said here
@@beelrustle2621 did you know the only comprehensive accounts of pythagoras were written almost 1000 years after his life... they are just stories bro. It's not accurate.
Human is like breeding rats, diseases if have sex before knowing other 2 weeks to get same immunity, now doctors give bills and abort ur baby if condom fail drunken
great share,... thanks
What is the music at the beginning please?
Sapio Phile darude sandstorm.
Not one mention of Euclid in this whole video!
Apparently, when he was taken to Babylon, he met Persian sages and magis , same from the school of thought who predicted birth of Christ ( three wise men) and learned a lot from them
I didn't say I stand for it or that I believe in it, I just don't think it is as disposable of an idea as you made it out to be. I like to keep an open mind about these things you see.
So here he is right after Aristotle.. He is looking for the real answer and...
I really like to production on this one
In saying every atheist is an agnostic (i.e. fallibilistic atheism) I take it you mean that in the philosophical sense, but I'm talking about the religious. As for the odds, that depends on what kind of god you're talking about, since this is a question of evidence. That said, I'm an atheist re. the "Abrahamic" god, but once we remove the attribute of benevolence and/or omnipotence it's very much an open question.
I downloaded this
29:27
I'm as confident on it as I should be. I'm confident that unicorns don't exist. I'm willing to change my mind provided there is evidence to support their existence.
Why should I believe anything without evidence? What's the point? I use logic and reason to evaluate every claim that people make then all of a sudden when it comes to religion I should just go with the flow "because"... Why!?
Watched all of it 44:21
I'm the future Pythagoras
I need a better place to study
Uhm...Didn't he find the fibbonacci sequence also...This video is hella old i assume.
26:21-28:02
29:23
31.35 you are the point. Gods "" measurements , you know because there is no such idea as not knowing nothing .
QUESTION. In what language were people in Egypt and Babylon were talking with Pythagoras ?
+Ptolemy Soter Greek was the international language for two millenia.
+alexander 323 konstantinos liar They spoke medu neter
It was mutli-cultural hence multi-linguistic. Problem solved.
Konstantionos ti malakies les re ? U mean koine greek and they wernt speaking greek in egypt yet that would come a few hundred yers later...
What is that thing at 0:00?
It's an ancient greek movie reel. It's how they watched documentaries like this one.
Was that supposed to be Pythagoras in the thumbnail. ?
Looks more like a Yes roadie ...circa 1972 .
It's actually a well known fact that the Greeks knew about the earth being a sphere...
Apple fall even earthball is flat
...but, in actual fact.
tony conrad
I was never so berhymed since Pythagoras’ time that I was an Irish rat, which I can hardly remember
who is the first mathematician
G-d
Imhotep
Kemet means Black or Land of the Black, egypt was a name given by europeans just like africa or ethiopia
You got issues.
Tell us how Africans made the Chinese empire...
Quote from wikipedia: "His followers established a select brotherhood or club for the purpose of pursuing the religious and ascetic practices developed by their master. The accounts agree that what was done and taught among the members was kept a profound secret." Does this sound like he was for elitism or against? It looks to me like he was perpetuating elitism!
This video claims Pythagoras was captured by the Babylonians and taught there. According to the biographies of Pythagoras, if he traveled to Babylon he did so voluntarily to learn there. It also makes him out to be the first communist/socialist. I see no justification for this. A flat world was a Medieval misconception, and even then, there were people with knowledge of surveying and navigation that knew the truth. It was common knowledge in the educated classes in the ancient world. Pythagoras definitely did not discover that the earth orbits the sun! That discovery was made by Copernicus. There may have been ancients who knew the heliocentric truth, but not among the Greeks and Romans.
It's evident from a critical study plato.stanford.edu/entries/pythagoras/ that we know almost nothing of Pythagoras the man or what he actually taught his students, or even where he traveled and acquired his knowledge. The truth has been lost in the mists of legends.
We don't even know if he originated the geometric theorem named after him. It's clear that the Egyptians knew of at least special cases of Pythagorean triangles like the 3-4-5 triangle and used it in surveying. Early sources say nothing of Pythagoras being a mathematician or geometer. The Greeks seem to be the first to want to prove geometric constructions rather than just use them to survey and build, but even this may have come after Pythagoras. The constructions themselves were in use already before Pythagoras by either the Egyptians or the Babylonians or both.
+dlwatib I don't think that you should have used Wikipedia, as information there is often altered (or at least can be). it's not the most reliable source for research. As a basis on what you might need to know, yes, but you need to find other sources that are more reliable. That way, you can make sure none of the info. on Wikipedia isn't off. :3
err dont think the ancient greeks really gave a shit about our 21st century bias or PC bullshit - try picking up a dictionary and looking up the meaning of 'context'.
Elitism of mind is different than elitism of money or power.
Kung Fu is also elite. Many things are elite and selective to keep assholes out. Or non fits.
Any cliche is discriminating.
Do you know this theoram existed before pythagoras?
Egyptians and Babylonians already had similar methods of finding the length of the missing side.
Chinese too
My grandmother dont know
3:50 Matt Damon at his best in this role!!!
Watching 0:36
It's possible that travelers accounts of Rhinoceros, back in the day, inspired unicorns. If I had seen one, and tried to describe it, I would have said it looked kind of like a horse, with a horn on it's head. Medeival pictures of lions, a more widely dispersed, at the time, were not quite accurate.
8:33 that's Socrates, not Plato.
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Pythagoras Socrates Plato Empedocles Parmenides all believed in reincarnation. Even some early Christians like Origen too.
Close enough. They are both greek
Why are so many angry people judging Pythagoras, no offense but none of us were there to see his life therefore we can not judge all his truths based on angry biased opinions
Soul beans
Pythagoras was a descendant of the Isu.
In a group of initiates you can have equality BEACUS all out in effort due to personal desires over all.
Go getters and ultra lazy?
How to rectify ...
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hes the dad of earth
Greece!? The man was born in Asia Minor!
"Fancy being remembered by every schoolboy" oh yeah and a few girls too SMH
all that pythagoros new about mathematics he learnt from the pyramids or should i say pi-thgoros or pi-ramids py meaning pi
+Philip Gray It's the other way round...
+alexander 323 konstantinos yep
No. Pyramid is a combination of Pyr = Fire and Amid meaning Within (in the middle). Literally Fire Within. Now go figure that one out.
stopped reading at 'new'
Too bad we're not all gifted with your certainty.
Kemet is the ancient egyptian word for egypt.Egyptians where a whole different race than the nubia people 'black' and europeans,they were called berber people and very few of them have survived to this day,most of them were slaughtered by arabs or lost their identity due that they were forced to convert to islam.Their ancestors are know as the Coptic and have very little similarities with the original egyptians as they are highly invovled with christianity.And there are very few of them too.
Well said.
Philos means friend, not lover!
In what language?
Greek
Perhaps it meant friends with benefits
It means beloved, dear, friend, its more intimate than just friend or acquaintance.
Love ur enemy ment be friends not like BB house orgies
By the time Pythagoras was born, there was nothing left for him to invent. It had all been done about 1500 years in Babylon as proven from the temple library mathematical texts of Nippur, ca. 2300 BC. The life and works of Pythagoras only appears in later texts which were themselves copies of copies and copies of translations. The cuneiform texts are autographic! So show me the evidence and I will accept all you say!
no
Marxism (of Marx...) has very litle (if anything) to do with Pythagorianism... The ignorance of Marxism on the part of most people, is abysmal... Anti-marxists have done an outstanding job (of misrepresentation...) of Marxian ideas about the Political Economy of Capital(ism...
Guilherme Fonseca-Statter what exactly is ignorant about Marxism? Other than the connotation of the word itself denoted to it by assimilated capitalists. The only people who dig their feet into the ground against socialism and capitalism are those born into democracy, and vice versa. Using the word ignorant to describe something that’s dissimilar you what you prefer, is the definition of IGNORE-ance
@@doomtreasure2278 I use the word «ignorance» in the context (or meaning) of «not kowing what "Marxism" is»... To me, the word «ignorance» has no particular moral conotation... What I prefer or not is irrelevant. Marxism (the original, that of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels) is the positive study of Capitalism. It is to the Social Sciences - in general and to the discipline of the Economy, in particular - as the work of Einstein is to the realm of Physics... I do not choose to prefer «Einsteinianism» (instead of Newtonianism, for example). In that context, I just try to understand what both approaches bring to a better (more effective) understanding of the Cosmos... Meanwhile the Capitalism (or the capitalist economy) continues (in its broad sketches) to unfold, just like predicted by Marx and Engels... And I am sorry if I have offended you in any way.
Guilherme Fonseca-Statter no I’m sorry for misjudging your opinion and your ability to entertain two ideas without necessarily having to accept one, which is “the mark of an educated mind”. I wrongly assumed what you were driving at. As far as this video, do you possibly have a video lecture or book suggestion that goes over details of Pythagoras’ life and teachings that go deeper than a middle school history book?
@@doomtreasure2278 my knowledge of Pythagorianism comes from «secondary sources», as a member of the «Center for the Philosophy of Sciences» of the University if Lisbon. Pythagoras was an Idealist, as opposed to Democritus (for example) who was a Materialist (hence my reference to Marxism...). In any case, I have been told that a very good book on Pythagoras is that by Dimitra Karamanides.
Thanks… I must say that my knowledge of Pythagoras ideas is of a «secondary source» nature, obtained through extensive group discussions within the Center for the Philosophy of Sciences of the University of Lisbon. In my original comment, my basic (implied) contention was that Pythagoras was an Idealist, as opposed to Democritus (for example) who was a Materialist (not unlike Marx and Engels). I have been told that a good book on Pythagoras is that by Dimitra Karamanides.
Think about it first. Research some. Elaborate on why it couldn't be true. Cause it could. It's not thát stupid.
The berbers had indeed a slight darker skin than white people but they depicted the nubians as a separate race emphasizing on their frizzy hair,wide nose and projecting jaw since the Egyptians didn't have those features and Egyptians highlighted characteristics in the people they considered the "other."So the land of the black was may reffering to the harsh environment which was deserts,or because almost all races that lived there had darker skins than white people.
Pythagoras banned orgies, did he also said dont drink beer like tesla, smart men can get smarter meditating
i came here to learn about how he used music for healing...they brushed that part aside like it was not important wtf...wack documentary.
Keep looking. It’s secret knowledge.
It’s real.
@@karamlevi I read about the monad to the decad very interesting
Nice story, Hasn't got anything to do with my point though. Feel free to replace unicorns with leprechauns, Poseidon or Jesus.
How u talked to god drunken
45:18 "Whether someone is a man or a woman is well defined..." He says that with such naive certainty in the halcyon days of pre-woke. LOL
Vegans have allways been smarter, even they ate fish like jesus and knew slavery is bad
Such a biased and ignorant storyline, Pythagoras nor any1 invented anything, wisdom is the inheritance and birth right to all truth seekers, egypt and babylon and later greece were just vessels of wisdom of the one by the one for one and all .
I am Hellen, not Greek. There is an intelligent video to be made in English about Pythagoras culture, and this isn't it.
You shouldn't approach this video as history in the typical sense. Treat it as an interesting speculative documentary with some historical information thrown in.
History is way more clear with a Hellenic classical education, and someone who speaks like a native Greek and not as an outsider/foreigner who learned Greek.
No other small country can compare with Greece in terms of impact on human benefit.
In the beginning... God created the Earth, and in the light blue waters, put a small ship to travel forever, in order not only to give birth but also to transfer great ideas all over the world ...
He called that ship...HELLAS! 🐬
The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance. Herodotus.
God is a number . Not things. This movie is half truthing . Look on the skin surface see the beauty of measurement. Things are not simple nor created but envisioned. Stay sane my friends. Question everything .
The One
A good documentary was ruined by the author's political inclinations, trying to turn an ancient philosopher into a precursor of all his idols from Marx, even to Stalin, Mao and Castro. Give it a rest, mate, is not a working ideology! And certainly the Greeks are not to blame for it.
you didn't listen very well to what was said
youre kidding yourself if you think marx would have supported any authoratarian regime. he was pro-democracy
Marx studied Aristotle, and the Aristotle conclusion for democracy was that it would and should increase equality.
But Aristotle didn't study Marx. :)
He thought too highly of his ideals, particularly when it comes to how people should live. True freedom is the freedom to choose both wrong and right. Setting and following rules is not freedom especially when they are all the right ones. Such is the irony of reality.
No, smart teach idiots and try cure chaos
Bullshit. Pythagoras had the knowledge, and others came to him to learn.
Platos Socrates Aristoteles
si=ocrates plato aristotle in that order
Pity that Socrates was most likely a fictional character.
@@magnificent6668 He was real. His biography is humongous.
Pythagoras never existed. The Pythagoreans were not actually known for "sacred/geometry" what so ever. They were instead known more for their political and religious philosophies.
They are also pronouncing the name wrong intentionally as a psychology game. Instead of Pyth-agoras, they are saying Pi-tha-goras. so you automatically link the concept of "pi" and assume it has some geometry meaning.
Incidentally the name is a reduction as Pyth means Rot/Corrupt, related to pythein "Rotted/Corrupted," in the sense of decay, and agoras meaning "gathered/assembled." It literally means rotten assembly and corrupted council. look it up.
They intentionally leave out that PYTHIOS/PYTHEIN was a reference to where the Oracle of Delphi was located and was herself given the name of Pythia with the same meaning of Rotten, derived from Pytho, refers to the sickly sweet smell of the decomposition of the body of the monstrous Python after he was slain by Apollo, and was assumed that the stink of volcanic gases coming out of the ground like sulfur which smells like nasty butt.
you know no more than anyone about his existence...sacred geometry IS a spiritual philosophy...just as he spoke of...and his follows thought the same...
Please call it commune-ism not communism.
Interesting how atheists always claim it's all about logic and evidence when in fact atheism is no more purely rational than any other position on religion. I'm an agnostic so according to your reasoning I guess I follow your supposed criteria even better than you do.
Atheist dont wanna help the poor cause they dicks
This is a very poor documentary. First of all, we don't need to watch actors and second of all no one knows anything about his feelings ("leaving in disgust" etc). Also, nobody is interested in your propaganda about communism, marxism, the kibbutz etc... just focus on the content of his philosophies.
A good documentary was ruined by the author's political inclinations, trying to turn an ancient philosopher into a precursor of all his idols from Marx, even to Stalin, Mao and Castro. Give it a rest, mate, is not a working ideology! And certainly the Greeks are not to blame for it.
😂 serious shit. It took a hard turn.
I didn't see any bias.