What to Choose: S&W M&P Shield Plus vs Shield M2.0
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2021
- You probably saw our our short video on the size (only) comparison between these two, and here is the full comparison that you wanted! Which one of these two 9mm offerings would you choose? Smith and Wesson M&P Shield M2.0 or the new Shield Plus (also called Shield+ or Shield + by some.)
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Love my Shield Plus, it shoots great and the trigger breaks nice and crisp. This is a very accurate pistol for it's size. It is in my carry rotation now.
Hard decision. Both are excellent options. Go with the one you shoot better.
Thanks for this content. My first handgun I recently purchased was a Shield 1.0 which I loved, until.....the striker problem after 4 rounds. Chalk it up to being manufactured on a Friday. While back at S&W (4 weeks, not bad) , I put 300 rounds or so thru my buddies OG Shield and shot the hell out of it. Very accurate. Impatiently waiting, I bought the M&P Shield Plus and holy crap what a difference. Better grip texture, better capacity, better trigger. As a novice shooter, the difference was very clear. That said, I never shot or reviewed the Shield 2.0, so thank you for this comparison!
Thank you. The M2.0 (regular or plus) is a major improvement over the early 1.0s in the trigger.
@@HammerStriker
question
I used to own the shield a few years ago, and even with the extended magazine, my pinky was not all the way on the grip.
so my question is, on the new shield plus, it looks like the undercut is slightly more exaggerated, allowing for a full grip with the extended magazine. Since my hands are large, will my pinky be totally on the grip due to the undercut being a bit more exaggerated?
This is such an in depth review. Very helpful
Thank you.
Thank you for the comparison between the 13 and 8 round mags. That is the selling point that helps me make my decision.
Great video, it definitely helped me make my decision. I thought the only difference was the mag capacity, I didn't notice the trigger difference on the web. I definitely prefer the flat style over the hinge. I still might swap for an Apex like my .40c but this will work until after the holidays 😁.
Had Smith taken the time to design the grip on the original Shield to allow for 10+ rounds, they would have dominated the market for years! Funny how hindsight works... 😀
Great comparison and review
I'm a little late seeing this but just wanted to say thanks for a good evaluation of these firearms. I've been on the fence about which one to buy and this video settled the matter for me!
Im viewing at the same time as you 🤙🏽 will be purchasing the Plus for a family member based off this video
Wish they would have put a rail on the Plus. Cool gun though
I ❤️ the 2.0 M&P hinged triggers. I know I’m in the minority with that.
You’re absolutely correct that we’re a minority….because we know how to shoot. 🤣💯🇺🇸
Agreed I prefer the hinged trigger 100%
No you arent. Of every piece i have stock, my favorite trigger.
NOT A FAN OF STRAIGHT TRIGGERS
It's so damn crisp and the reset is super crisp too.
Compared to my springfield very 1st XD series they made like nearly 15 yrs ago before all the newer variants, WORST MOST SQISHY TRIGGER POS but i dont think the gun craze was as nuts.
Now every single brand makes tactical match grade variants which put to shame the same models over 10 yrs ago.
Like these new high capacity tiny ccw pieces (hellcat, M&P us, Sig, etc...)why did it take 50 years to figure that out?
Didnt feel the new plus trigger. But i have 0 issues with the 2.0. But the addition of 5 bullets is a huge difference and more comfort.
This answered my question! Thanks
Subbed for a great comparison video.
Besides the capacity advantage of the Plus the 2.0 is a better gun. It has a significantly better trigger, (shoot them back to back and then tell me I'm wrong!), It's way more responsive, faster and provides more feeback. The aggressive stipling on the 2.0 also puts it over the top of any super compact when it comes controlling recoil, it's never gonna slip no matter how gunky your hands are!
The Plus is a great gun but the 2.0 is the tool that will always deliver.
(Oh, BTW, I own both)
I have all the shield models. I'm changing all my 2.0 triggers out so they can at least be as good or better than my plus. I dont see any world where the 2.0 is better than the Plus trigger. S&W is starting to put it on the top end 2.0 models now so I guess they agree too.
Great comparison
Thank you.
Nice review! I'm liking the Shield Plus! I looked at one a couple weeks ago and it felt great. I think it had the 13 round mag in it. 👍👍💥
Great guns, I still have the original one with magazine xtech plus 2 magazine extensions. Never had any issues with them! I will probably keep this gun forever! I love looking at it even more than my Glock 19 that I also admire!!
Great comparison 👍🏾
I have a S&W Shield 9mm and replaced the Henge Trigger with a Hyve Monarch Trigger (flat face). A very real improvement. I also have a S&W 9mm Shield Plus.. With the new Trigger the Shield shoots as good as my Shield Plus. I am keeping Both. Also have a SD9VE with a new Trigger from Apex. Did other upgrades. It's my home and Farm Handgun.
Just bought a plus. Actually like my 2.0 better. Safety on the plus is ridiculously stiff and so is the magazine. Flat faced trigger is nice- but no discernible reset. Trigger pull feels the same. 12 rounds is all I could stuff in the 13 round mag. And you have to force the mag in the gun for it to lock. The only thing I like about the plus is the slightly wider grip. In hindsight- I wish I had left it in the store.
Your experience is completely different than mine. I have a 1.0 since 2012 and a 2.0. The Plus is far and away better than both and I have none of the issues you are having. If I had those issues I would sell the gun.
Great video Hammer Striker. I would like to see the Shield Plus vs SA Hellcat if possible. I'm been going back and forth between those two.
I watched videos, and decided to get Plus over Hellcat.
Thank you. We do have that comparison planned.
@@HammerStriker I'm looking forward to that. I've had Shield's before, but I like the size of the Hellcat. I'm interested in it for my cargo pants for pocket carry. Think the Shield is just a bit too big for that style of carry.
Hard to beat the Shield at $350 (and cheaper on the used market). If you're looking for a tiny gun for conceal carry, fhe Shield 2.0 will do the job with a proven track record. Personally, I'd rather spend the extra $200 on the Shield Plus. Sure the prices are pretty inflated at the moment, but the extra 3-5 rounds capacity and the trigger are worth it to me.
No it’s not
@@Slider77755 the 2.0 trigger i just love. Super crisp and the curve hugs your finger.
You don't need 10 or 13 shots and no one carries with extended, sticks out too much. If you need all 13, GOD HELP YOU
@@ashsherman yet I am an average man and always carry the Shield 2.0 with extended mag on it and don’t know anyone who carries it only the flush mag.
I have the original sheild and a glock 26 I think I'm going to get rid of the 26 and get this, the sheild has just the rite length for my hand that the 26 just a little short in the grip great vedieo I mean excellent comparisons 👍🏿
Agreed 👍🏽
Or you could add a plus 2 or plus 3 to the magazines for the 26 to add some grip or even add a glock 19 magazine with x grip.
@@briancox2592 gud Idea💡
I just bought a 8 rd it's new it's what I needed
Thanks
I like the new trailer. But I had no problems at all with the original trigger.
Good info
Thank you.
It's hard to compare with pictures. Thanks for the video. I have a bigger hand so the plus would fit better more likely.
He was not all over the place With the Shield 2.0 when he did his comparison vs the Hellcat. I wonder what happened since then.
What happened is that he was promoting the plus for this video
I have a Shield 2.0 that I got for about $300 about 5 years ago. My experiance with the Shield has revealed that the Shield is an exellent weapon. If I had to do all over againg I’d probably get the shield plus. For now, I’ll keep my Shield 2.0 unless I find a great deal that is too good to pass up. Good video.
EDIT NOTE: I found a good deal that was too good to pass up. I ordered a Shield Plus for $399 at Smokey Mountain Guns and Ammo.
Any problems
@@donaldwortham2409, with the Shield 2.0? Nope, I also have the shield Plus and the CSX. All 3 are great guns.
The shield plus wasn’t for sale 5 years ago
@@glock316 Neither was my post.
@@vancedyer755 Yea but you said you got your 2.0 5 years ago...... their point is the Plus is better than the 2.0
Good table top review
Thank you.
Good stuff.
Thank you.
Are the barrels the same ? Can you use a 2.0 in a Plus and vise versa?
Nice video
Thank you.
I’ve owned every shield version!
Narrowed it down to the 2.0 with integrated green crimson Trace laser, and a shield plus
If they make a plus with crimson trace I’d get that.
Can’t go wrong with either
I'm finding my plus fit a decent amount snugger in my Serpa than my standard field. I haven't measured. But everything says exactly the same and fits the same holsters no problems. But I'm wondering if it's a little thicker polymer towards the slide
The trigger guard undercut of the plus is a tad deeper than the M2.0. I know this for a fact due to the crimson trace laserguard pro on my M2.0 would show a gap when installed in my shield plus.
Please tell me it works on your shield plus l?
Your groups with the shield plus looked really good. Wish Smith would offer the trigger on the shield plus as a kit for M&P 2.0.
Thank you. That slightly bigger grip made a difference for me.
@@HammerStriker I just shot the Shield plus today and....the trigger gave me issues because with my extra-large hands and fingers...I couldn't pull the trigger easily....I know I don't have that problem with the Shield 2.0.
Can you put a shield plus lower on an M&P 2.0. I live in CA, so cannot get the Shield plus. Would love a little more width, plus, a couple more rounds.
@@tommytP2000 get the heck out of CA.
@@speedmaster001 Tryin man....TRYIN. Still a couple of years out for the over-all plan.
M&P Shield 2.0 40cal.S&W my favorite cc.
I really enjoyed your thorough and informative review! I may get the 2.0 as I can pick it up new for $300.00. Besides the Shield Plus is not on the California Compliance list. Governor Newsom is a pain.
A month later and it’s on there, watching this video on 11/25 because I just got my FSC. 11/16 M2.0 and Plus were added😊
@@dz_gt500Thanks for the heads up. Now I will get the Shield Plus. I'm glad I waited.
@@markpomerhn76 Same here glad I did some research. I was going to go buy the 1.0 today & luckily the color I wanted sold out yesterday.
my hands are large.
on the old shield, my pinky wasn't totally on the gun, even with the extended magazine.
on the shield plus, it appears that the undercut is slightly more exaggerated, allowing for a fuller grip.
so would my pinky be fully on? on the shield plus?
So my question is can i use a holster designed for the 2.0 with my shield plus?
I bought my shield 2.0 because I liked how small it was. The plus is not as small. I am happy with my purchase.
Thanks for the video btw
Gotta cope with making a less informed decision, the Shield Plus is the superior weapon if we're being honest
@@aj897 actually no...
The shield plus wasn't invented yet...
The Shield plus is 20.2 oz per its website.
MUCH prefer the feel of the G26 which is more controllable in rapid fire and accepts factory hi-cap mags up to 33 rounds, has more trigger and holster options, and can be fitted with a Striker Control Device and a longer 4" G19 barrel for better ballistics and a longer G19 slide if you want a longer sight radius. The Shields are best for people with smaller hands who find the G26 grip is too big for them IMO, otherwise what is the point?
Need the Plus in .40 !
Anyone know the height of the shield plus with the extended magazine or even the original shield with the extended mag since they are the same height?
I wrote to S&W and they do not have any plans to make the Plus in additional calibers. Personally, I'd like the Plus in S&W 40.
If thinner is better (otherwise why not carry a G26 that will accept factory 15, 17, 24 and 33 round mags) then the Shield M2.0 is better. Also lighter with fewer rounds in it, and more reliable (put a fully loaded 13 shot mag in a Shield Plus with a loaded chamber and it will likely suffer a stoppage when fired).
Shield Plus is better is every way IMO other than width which can be a concern for pocket carry with tighter clothing. It's not much, something like 0.95" vs. 1.1" or something, but sometimes that could matter between EDC and sometimes carry.
Found the single stack Shield 2.0 for a better price especially after I just bought the 3.6 compact 2.0.
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have you measured the trigger pull weight on shield plus vs shield 2.0? I am choosing between the 2
I haven't put a scale on them but I can say that by feel they are indistinguishable from one another. They did not mess up the trigger when creating the plus.
Could you do a grip comparison of a shield plus to a shield 45? as i know the 45 is slightly larger. due to the caliber size of the 45.
Unfortunately I don't have a .45 Shield, but if I get a hold of one I will do that.
SHIELD PLUS
The trigger of the shield plus while vastly improved actually have a side to side play. I have an apex trigger on my M2.0 and don’t find any side to side play. I’ll enjoy the shield plus stock trigger till the mod itch is going to sink in. LOL
Wish they made a 45acp option
What is the difference in weight loaded with 7 and the plus loaded with 13 ?
The M2.0 compact and Subcompact can be bought with fully ambidextrous features
Probably going to have to get the 2.0. I shot the Plus better. But my state only allows for 10 round max and I need that extension for my pinky…
Does the tlr6 fit shield plus?? Looks like the holsters and lights might be interchangeable ?? Thank you you sold me on the plus I have one of each now I’ll have 3 I guess. The r.m.r cut is worth buying the S&W plus. Thank you for the great work. I hope the apex triggers work. I have two extra for shields.
@Richard Mancl tlr6 is mounted on the trigger guard. Is the plus and 2.0 shield trigger guard the same? Thanks for you input.
@Richard Mancl Thanks. I appreciate your time. Looks like my next gun purchase is going to be the shield plus. Thank you. Funny I looked at numerous art i also for that info but I never thought to call for the answer. Bravo sir.
Kind of makes you wonder how in the last 5 to 6 years or so did Smith&Wesson figure out how to put a 13+1 magazines in a very close to the same size of 8+1 gun I'm thinking they got the idea because of the Sig P365 shows some companies lead and others follow guns this size with this capacity that have a half way decent trigger were not around just 5-6 years ago unless your a big fan of the trigger on the Kel-Tec P-11 or SCCY CPX wish Arex Delta or Walther or H&K or CZ would make a micro double stack in the 400-500 dollar range
They won't because it would be beneath them but they would sell more or those than the higher price guns.
Are the slides interchangeable between original (non 2.0) shield and shield Plus?
I don't believe so but don't have a "1.0" to check against.
Just wondering which one you think is better for conceal carry the plus or the compact
The compact in the fall/winter, the plus in the spring/ summer
A year later, where I live I picked up the plus for $399.00 new.
If they discontinue the original s&w won't have any semiautomatic pistols in California
One of the best reasons I can think of to MOVE out of California.
Yup. Only reason they keep the old one aroyndaround
Right? Do they even bother selling the 1.0 anywhere else?
PC is harder to find??? Wasn't for me. Dealer was out of the base Plus, so I upgraded to PC with fiber optics and ported barrel. Glad I did. 2.0 is now obsolete like an old computer.
good bit taller then the p365,hellcat,keltec p11. more like the max9
Which would win in a duel, 10-paces, single round?
Love my shield 2.0 Trying to get my wife to like it so I can justify buying myself a plus
Is the slide easier to manipulate in the Plus? I’ve shot about 800 rounds with my Shield and racked it about 1,000+ times. It’s getting easier but my seeet little old wife still has trouble.
Has she tried holding the slide with 4 fingers and her palm when she racks it? I have really weak hands, but this method makes racking easy for me.
Unfortunately the slide pull is roughly the same, you may want to check out the Shield EZ for her (it has a much lighter slide pull)
Can you not change the springs out?
I have the 1.0 and the Plus. My only complaint is how hard it is to pull the slide back on both of them.
The biggest difference is the trigger.
If you had a Hogue grip you would shoot the m 2.0 better
Your Plus isn't shiny like mine. Smith Cerakoted the frames. Mine is shiny and so are the others I've seen. But yours looks different. Interesting.
This on is one of the very first to become available, so that may be something they changed early in production.
Are the triggers interchangeable you can't get a plus in California
I cannot say for sure, it does appear the grip is the only difference but I have not fully stripped either one to see if the internals are truly the same.
I don’t know if it would be worth it even if that trigger were interchangeable. I believe Apex tactical offers an upgrade. The trigger pull weight/ reset are indistinguishable between the 2.0 & plus. Just a different design which boils down to aesthetics. They both work- well.
In CA, you can only get the MP Shield 1.0.. The M&P Shield 2.0 isn’t on the “Safe Handgun Roster” and will never be added due to all the requirements being added. “Micro stamping”, 3 models removed for every 1 added, etc..
So please don’t stop making the 1.0. There are really only 3-5 decent compact 9mm’s left on the roster now. The Glock 26, the Shield 1.0, the XD, Kahr and I believe the CZ Rami are the only ones left at this point.
I just learned this today 11/25 and I’m here to tell you that you were wrong😁M2.0 and Shield Plus were added to the roster 11/16
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A while back, you compared the Shield M2.0 with the M&P Subcompact. With the Plus' increased capacity and new trigger, please consider doing a Plus vs Subcompact comparison. Just sold my Shield M2.0 to buy a Plus but maybe the Subcompact is the way to go.
We definitely plan to.
@@HammerStriker sorry, I'm not "fluent" in S&P (lol) -- does @Klaatu58 mean the S&W M&P 2.0 Compact? (I've just never heard of an "M&P Subcompact"; is it the same as the 2.0 Compact?) If so, I'd love to see that comparison myself, as that was my first ever gun, and it's kind of tempting to sell that and get a Shield Plus instead. Thanks.
it appears to my eye, that the undercut on the shield plus is more pronounced, meaning that it looks like people with larger hands will be able to get their entire hand including the pinky, on the gun.
can anyone with large hands, verify that?
Prefer the M&P 40 Shield M2.0 (6 round mag) as the .40 S&W round has better stopping power than 9mm. If you only had time to fire one shot to save your life or the life of a loved one would you rather your pistol was .40 S&W or 9mm? Better yet, get a G27 that has a 9 round mag and accepts factory 13, 15, 22 and 29 round mags.
They keep the 2.0 around for us Cali folks lol
Shield plus all the way lol
Smith and wesson says the slides can't be swapped but I keep seeing videos saying that's not true...
Nothing is insignificant when it comes to printing. Also for women who carry the weight could be enough to were they wouldn’t carry it because the extra rounds.
Um having an option for people that’s literally 150+ dollars less is a huge reason right there to keep the 2.0 shield around lol
I'm going to be the one to say it...Shield 1.0 I like the grip texture better, it does not eat into my tactical muffin top.
We seem to have entered the realm of 2-round-itis. Similar to the boaters "2-foot-itis". If we accept a handgun that is just a little heavier, just a little bigger, we get two extra rounds. If I accept a handgun that is just a little bit heavier than that, just a little, I get another two rounds. (S&W M&P Sub compact) Bear in mind that the main reason for these competing micro compacts is to...sell guns. According to the background check data, that has been very successful.
I have a S&W 3914 DAO (8+1) and a Shield 1.0 (8 +1) and a S&W Model 6904 (12+1) and a SIG P228 (13 +1) I haven't been tempted yet to by a gun that is just a little bit bigger, or smaller, for 10+1. I have carried a handgun for 48 years as a police officer and retired police officer. An additional 2 rounds is practical if you otherwise have a single shot pistol or a 2 shot pistol. Going from 1 or 2 rounds to 3 or 4 is a big difference. Going from a capacity of 9 to 11...for personal self defense...is of much more dubious value.
That said...if I were new to the market and already had my "always be armed" handgun and was looking for an EDC, I would lean toward the Shield Plus.
I chose easily. I am keeping my Glock
Which Glock are you carrying?
@@JacksonWalter735 A 43 in my pocket. Easy to conceal. For holster, a G19
@@dwheeler016 nice
@@JacksonWalter735 While the 43 only has a 6 round magazine, it is slender and hides well
@@dwheeler016 Agreed. Use whatever works for you. During the Canton, Ohio home invasion back in 2019, one of the home owners used his Glock 43 to defend himself after being pistol whipped awake. I'm glad he owned a Glock 43 and was able to defend himself with it.
The weight in the plus is 20.2 Oz. You got that one completely wrong
Wait, where is the gun’s thumb safety?? Big problem!!
Smith and Wesson should just discontinue their older M&P Shield Models and rebrand the plus as their mainstream shield.
Nah. Keep both. I love the single stack
Why not just get the compact?
Because the Shield is slimmer, more compact than the Compact.
Are the uppers for these two guns perfectly interchangeable?
This information is proving impossible to find.
Yes
czcams.com/video/ZiDEf1kvyAc/video.html
Yes
Thank you for your answers to this question.
I went ahead and purchased the Shield Plus and put my Performance Center upper onto it and have fired about 300 rounds through it and everything is functioning perfectly. Couldn't be happier.
Good video as always.
…and the winner for this category sized pistol is: …Glock 43x.
Don’t hate, the Shield is “good,” but the Glock 43x is superior. I own both shield models and the G43x, therefore I am qualified to opine. 🧐
Glock is far from superior, shield is better shooting ,better trigger and way more comfortable to shoot
You're also a glock fanboi - they are good guns, not sure it's better
@@fzr1000981 who are you referring to
I hated all my Glocks after I bought my first Smith!
@@betteryoubet Smith is so sub par, it’s no wonder no 1st world, 1st rate military issues them to their troops.
Is this a joke the shield plus is better. Better trigger, more ammo and a better trigger reset
But also wider, heavier, with a less aggressive grip texture. These are not details to be overlooked.
Apparently your not from California.
So, I just put a down payment on a practically brand new shield 2.0 9mm with crimson trace lg489 laser. The price is 485. Is that a good enough deal to go through and buy or should I skip it and go for a new plus? Anyone that could help me out with this would be greatly appreciated 🙂 👊