You Asked For It: S&W Shield Plus vs M&P Subcompact
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- You Asked For It (YAFI): Smith and Wesson M&P Subcompact vs M&P Shield Plus. Both of these are chambered in 9mm and both go after much of the same market, so how do they compare against each other, whether for EDC, nightstand, home defense, etc. We have had many requests for this face-off, so now which would YOU choose?
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Sub compacts are good for ppl that can only have one pistol, it works for carry and nightstand. If you can get more than one, then a micro for carry and a compact/full size for the nightstand is great.
Exactly. Which back when I was a poor, I bought the compact 1.0 (2.0 subcompact equivalent). It was a best of both worlds gun since I could only afford one.
Subcompacts shoot nicer than micros. They’re heavier and tend to be softer in felt recoil, thus being more accurate with DoubleTap shots. Plus they can hold full sized mags too. I love the subcompacts for all these reasons mentioned.
Shield plus for carry and cz75 for nightstand 👍🏽
@@juanitolopez8945 shield 45 for ccw and ar-15 pistol with a brace for the nightstand.
@@tray22 2 12 gauge shotguns loaded with 3” magnum 00 buckshot for how me defense for me!!!!
I own both. Shield is much more comfortable to carry, even with the 13 round mag. Compact is easier to shoot.
I carried a Shield IWB before my Shield +, and I can confirm that they feel the same.
Great review, Hammer! I have both. The SC was called the 9c, back in the 1.0 version, and is a 12+1. as others have noted. Was my first firearm. I don't find the trigger troublesome, at all, although I do like the Plus's trigger more, and can carry the 9c well, IWB, kydex, 4 o'clock, even on my medium frame...a little tougher in our southern summers, but that's why I have the Shield. Had the original Shield, but traded it for the Plus, upon release, for the capacity. Love both of these, and will never let either of them go. And,, as you have shown in the video, I have 17-rounders (4) with sleeves, in addition to 12-rounders (5), for range days with the 9c....and, for carry/backup purposes... and for the Zombie arrival, too....even at night, when the Zombies most like to be about.🤣👾
Shield plus All Day, comfortable to Conceal and Definitely Shoots like a Big gun and very accurate up to 50 yards.
Sub compact for the win, now they need to put out the optics ready version
I was just about to see if they had an optic ready version. I would love to see the SC with a flat face trigger and optic ready
I've been asking/waiting so long for this.. excellent vid.
Great video! I’d say you’re the best “table top” reviewer I’ve watched; clear/well-enunciated voice, excellent video/audio and no “tactic Luik” bravado. Atta boy award conferred.
Now, I found this vid searching for a shield+ vs Glock 48 review. Given new SA 15 rd mags for the 48 I thought it would make a nice comparison.
Been waiting for someone to do a comparison of the two. Also a big hello from Hillsborough
@Larry Pinhead Hello from Polk County 🤟🏼
The advantage of the compact is easier to shoot well and is rock solid in the hand the S&W was one of the first modern striker fired guns to really study the hand and take the grip up a notch from previous guns. I have a Gen 1 M&P9c that I made mine by putting an Apex trigger kit in it and got a fluff and buff job from a great gun smith. Love that gun. I also have an M&P Compact. I like the Shield but the others really feel great in hand and shoot very comfortably.
Just pulled the trigger on the plus, thank you for the video
That subcompact is notoriously hard to find new. After a trigger swap for an apex it’s absolutely a joy to shoot. I prefer the grip angle over my Glock and the pic rail is a nice feature.
Yes ,i had the opportunity to get a Subcompact used in mint condition, but let it go due to the hype of the M&P Shield. Its like two carrots on a stick and a string of the same size ,but due to everyone talking about the carrot on the left ,you go for it. LOL
Have yet to see one in the wild... probably for the best lol- My CC. 😁
In Virginia you can the find subcompact everywhere
@@keving52002 did it work out?
Nice review! I have the Shield plus, and a 4” Compact and recently got a great deal on the Subcompact. I love the subcompact and so glad I bought it. It shoot so well and it feels like it was made for my hand. Midwest Gunworks makes sleeves which I ordered but don’t use as much as i thought I would. At the range I just shoot the larger mags in the SC without the sleeves since I end rotating between guns.
Awesome show...really liked the comparison!
NOW we need a Bodyguard 380 Plus. Come on S&W you can’t let Ruger got one up on you!!
I agree!
Agree. I want to get a double stack 380 for the wife but options are so little . The ruger and bersa thunder are pretty much the only option
I have the M&P 2.0c and love it. I saw the PC Shield plus with the 4" barrel and well I had to have it too. I already have the first Shield and like it too but the added capacity of the plus and longer sight radius should make it a great shooter and still just as easy to conceal as the original Shield. I cant wait for it to get here.
Excellent video as usual! I love your straight forward and “get to the point” narration on your videos. While I’m a Glock guy (and Colt), I absolutely love the M&P 2.0 series of pistols. I love that subcompact model in this video and for everything you said about it when compared to the “Plus” gun. I think the grip is better, the weight of the gun is better and the hinged trigger, I actually like. For AIWB carry, it’s all about the length of the grip, not so much the slide. So the grips on both depicted guns are the same, but the slightly longer slide of the subcompact helps the gun to stay “flat” against ones stomach. Whereas shorter slides usually make guns “too heavy” in appendix carry, thus bending out forward from the body and printing more. ….that’s for me and my body build anyway. Finally, I love the magazine interchangeability with the subcompact and full size M&P’s. If I want to carry thinner, I’ll carry my Glock 43, 43x or 48. I think the M&P subcompact is S&W’s direct competition to a gun slightly larger than a Glock 26, but smaller than a 19. I had to edit this. I’ll say that their subcompact is a direct descendant in size comparison to their old 3rd Gen 6904/6906 alloy models of yesteryear. love it the 2.0 subcompact!
Beautifully done.
My EDC is a Shield 2.0 and I love it. I need a firearm with more capacity and a rail for the nightstand/home defense. Looks like the SubCompact will be my next firearm. Great video! Thanks.
really a nice and fair comparison , somewhat lacking on other sites, please keep your judgement on other reviews, thanks
As always, great video!
Two great guns, almost ended up getting a used subcompact, but ended up getting the Shield and later trading it in for the Shield Plus. But i still seem to like the Subcompact for the thickness and how it fits my hand, and those few extra .3 inches may slightly improve accuracy. Also like the fact that on the subcompact you can add the larger mags from the other M&P lineup .
Thank you for another great review.
Thanks for doing this one. I think you misstated the Subcompact stock magazine capacities. They're 12 rounders. 12+1 capacity. It may only be stamped to 11, but they hold 12. Both the flat and pinkie extender stock mags (unless you're in one of the states with limits). So flat mag to flat mag it's 12 (subcompact) vs 10 (shield plus).
The mags are stamped 12 on the other side.
Smith does evens on one side and odds on the other. Flip the mag over and you’ll see 12
Great review, enjoyed the compassion of the guns. I have both and really like both. If I could only have one it would be the subcompact because it has more versatile.
Thank you so much for making this video
Great review HS. I think an advantage the SC has over the Shield is the longer barrel and I like the ambidextrous safety on the SC line. A person can't go wrong either way.
Is the magazine release ambidextrous on either one?
@@Fzee_Dre The subcompact yes, it is easy to change to left handed. On the shield, I am not sure it's been awhile since I have seen one. S&W's are great, don't hesitate to buy and their customer service if ever needed is excellent.
overall, a good job, thank you. I wish you had pointed out two more things; the subcompact can take a wide variety of accessories on its front rail (a short rail, but it has a rail), the shield plus no, at this point in time I don't think there are any accessories like those for the SP. the second thing I would have liked to hear about is how they shot, which had more recoil impulse, muzzle flip, which seemed more accurate or easier to shoot, etc. maybe a follow up video?
True, all his info were specs you can look up on the main website. What I really wanted to know is how both gun shoot. Like, how is the recoil on both guns? And which one had faster easier follow up shots.
Whatever I'm carrying for the day I use as the night stand Gun. I'm pretty sure a most people do the same.
Both are great guns. I love my subcompact because I find it easier to grip with my bigger hands than the Shields and it's easier for me to shoot because of the heavier barrel and slide. Definitely not as light and easy to carry as the Shields.
Just picked up a M&p 2.0 compact 9mm with 3 15 mags and night sights for $399 with a $100 rebate. $299 was way to hard to pass up the deal ends April 2
With the right holster I have found you don’t have to carry a micro all the time
15 round equalizer mags for the shield
You can add a picatinny rail to the trigger guard giving you light/lazer options and a hogue grip thickens the grip if you so choose. Shield plus for the win imo
'Thorough, interesting comparison. I believe the stats, but the difference in width between the Subcompact and Shield Plus, when lined up side-by-side, grip-to-grip, *looks* greater than 1/10" to me, for both the slides and grips. It can make a noticeable difference if inside the waistband. It's time for S&W to give all their pistols the better flat-faced trigger (and real/useful forward slide serrations).
I'd definitely pick the Subcompact because it takes the other 2.0 9mm mags and it would match my Full size 2.0 pistol
Today on "There's no wrong answer here...." They're all great. I have 2 Shield Plus, a 3.6" 40C, 4" 40, 4" 10MM. Sure do like those M&Ps. Glock 17 and 30SF also. Nothing wrong with a Glock either, but given the choice, I'll go M&P everyday 🫡.
Good comparison between those two, I went with 4" plus and 4" compact for longer sight radius and slightly higher velocities
Thanks for posting. I am very interested in the M&P line as I am moving from Glock to M&P. Glock is great but I like the grip angle better on M&P so it more comfortable to shoot for me. I will keep my G19 and 30S though b/c for some reason I shoot the mid-size Glocks pretty well.
I agree. I also have a G19 but prefer my M&Ps--Shields, S Plus, 9C, and even a little BG.
Invest in an apex trigger if you decide on the subcompact.
Loved my Glock 17 but changed to S&Ws as the grip fits my small hands much better.
Solid video. Both offerings are valued considerations imo. Of those, I would have to go with the subcompact, primarily due to the sub taking the other M&P 2.0 mags. Also would add an Apex flat faced trigger. The pic rail is also a huge plus.
Smith is still not selling mags for the shield plus. I'm likely going to sell mine.
That's the only reason you would get rid of the Plus? Ridiculous
@@ou812true5 here's a little secret that you wouldn't get. no decent instructor is going to allow you to show up with only 2 mags. Some people are going to train with their guns outside of shooting paper🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@graymann7762 and you don't think that shield Plus mags will be available in the near future? I would agree this is kind of silly.
@@justus005 with the federal push to gun bans, I am not going to wait to find out.
Bought the Performance Center 4 inch plus The Subcompact has a few pluses but the trigger on the Plus is AWESOME! Carrying 17 rounds would be nice but I'd have to wonder how much it would print in concealed carry. Also I expect that the plus will eventually get a larger capacity magazine. The picatinny rail is nice for sure by their are nice options for flashlight and laser attachments for the Plus trigger.
Another great advantage of the M&P Subcompact is that it's actually near-fully ambidextrous! The slide stop is on both sides and you can ACTUALLY REVERSE THE MAGAZINE RELEASE!!!! Hey, it only took the Shields nearly 6-8 years to realize they need to relearn the ability to reverse their magazine release. XD
Thanks for the video, both are cool not sure wish one buy probably the plus for the size better for run, hi from panama my friend
Just got my 9 shield plus bugout edition today 8-29-22! Came with 5 magazines!Can’t wait to shoot it!😁
The subcompact comes with a real useable thumb safety lever instead of the small safety of the shield.
Obviously to each their own but I personally love the shield safety! Really unobtrusive and tactile. I’m a big fan of it. One of my 5” m&p 2.0’s has the same safety on the subcompact and I’m personally not a huge fan of that. It’s just too much in the way for me.
Unfortunately I recently switched to the 4” performed center shield plus and they don’t even offer that model with a safety of any kind. Kind of a bummer.
Safety will be the end of you
Who wants that?
Love the Subcompact. My first pistol. Added a Streamlight TLR light/laser combo. It’s perfect.
What holster supports that?
I have the mp subcompact 2.0 in 40 cal. Handles the 40 nice. Perfect size for the hotter round. I wouldn't want a sheild in 40.
I have a shield 45 and it is my favorite pistol to shoot. Accurate and the recoil is surprisingly mild.
I have the sub compact and I love it. Then I saw the Sheild + and decided I wanted one. Well, this comparison was helpful. I will stick with the Sub
and maybe just drop a flat Apex trigger in it.
Hey H/S! Nice shooting, boss! I’ve heard some people say that the Shield Plus trigger slightly reminds them of an Apex trigger. I can see some truth to that. I hope that S&W is smart enough to realize that this new trigger needs to make its way throughout the whole line up. TFS!
If they are smart enough to give us a shield with one, I’m sure they are.
Thanks for this comparison video , just the video I was looking for ,. 2.0 3.6. 15rds gets my vote
I have a Walther PPS and it holds 7 rounds but its slim and at the time I couldnt find any shields. Great trigger on that one. I also got a 1.0 and put an Apex trigger and its great. Its a little heavy but you get 12+1 and its not much harder to conceal but it is wider. Its great at shooting though as you have almost no recoil for its size. My girlfriend also shot it and she was able to shoot well even though she has long fingernails and weak hands.
Subcompact would be my bet just because of the pic rail alone, other than that they’re both great options
Great video as always!
And totally agree with so many comments on here...
Smith should be putting these triggers on their entire line!
Thank you.
loved the compact when it came out...now there's no comparison with the Shield plus. Compact feels So bulky/heavy. Cool if on hip, zombie war and those 17 round mags
Great content, my pony is 2.0 subcompact still.
I bought the optic ready version of the shield plus with tritium night sites for the same price as the regular Nov. 10th. The price of handguns seems to have dropped a little recently.
I want the Sub-compact. Mainly because I have the 3.6 compact. Same holsters, mags.
I have the subcompact. Fits my hand very nicely and it came with backstraps (which I haven't needed). It hold 12 FMJ rounds and 11 Self-defense rounds woth the regular magazine. I put Tro-Glow Tritium sights on it, hut like my full size. I have lots of M&P mags, so the adapters are usable, but I practice with the regular mag because I carry it.
why does it hold more FMJ than defense rounds?
@@connorsurgeon8976 they each hold 12
The subcompact with an Apex flat trigger...
I carry the 2.0 Compact with an Apex at 5 lbs and it's impressive. Only slightly larger than the subcompact and 15 rounds with a flush fit or 17 with a sleeve and a full size magazine. The Shield + is a bit small for my hands, but not as tiny as a P365.
I'll tell you guys a secret... my wife's Shield 9 EZ is a nice carry pistol as far as size (slim). Yeah, it only holds 9, but it shoots like a bigger gun. The grip safety makes me feel confident re-holstering too (thumb on the back of the slide, grip safety not depressed).
6:56 that 15 round mag, is that from the Shield Plus? That seems to be the only 15 round M&P mag I can find.
Good stuff
You can add a rail to a shield plus...you actually need to if you add an o light
I went from Shield 1.0 to Plus and the Trigger is a leap forward .
Can you upgrade the m2.0 sub compact trigger to the one used in the Shield Plus?
Could you review a bond arms bullpup 9?
And lmao the week I buy an lcp 2, the lcp max comes out. My lcp 2 struggles to chamber flat nose and hollow points. It also struggled to even chamber ball point, but it was a little easier. Idk if this thing needs to be broken in, but idk if any break in will be enough to solve this lol. Hopefully the bullpup 9 is reliable.
I've owned Shields for years. I think 6 over the years. The Plus is much better. If that's all I had for sd I'd be just fine.
Between these two, which one has the easiest slide manipulation? I inspected the Shield Plus about a month ago and found it difficult to rack, then shot it this past weekend and found that it was at least manageable, though not necessarily quite as easy as the Equalizer or Sig P365 models (then again, I have been working on some hand strength exercises). I've heard some say the M2.0 SC is difficult to rack, and others have said it isn't too bad and is easier than the Plus. I thoroughly enjoyed the Shield Plus when I shot it, but the slide difficulty is the one major con for me. The 15+1 M2.0 Compact was easy enough to manipulate and I plan to shoot it on my next range visit, but I haven't found the little brother either for sale or for rental to even inspect, let alone shoot. I'm strongly interested in it, though, and my enjoyment of the Plus is only further motivating me to keep looking for one to get a good look at. Thank you for doing this comparison.
Forget the Shield plus, buy the subcompact as an every day carry gun and if you ever decide to change EDC to something else, the compact can be converted to nightstand gun with big mag and lights/lazers... no brainer.
Or you could get both; which I did. The Shield is a bit lighter to carry the SC is a little easier to shoot well.
Me here again. I finally found a subcompact to inspect and, just as I expected, it handles just as well if not slightly better than its big brother. The 15+1 is a phenomenal shooter, as is the Plus, so now I'm torn between the two even though I do also plan on purchasing an Equalizer. Which would be better for multi-purpose use or SHTF?
To be fair to the plus, with a easy and simple magguts installation you can have 13 rounds in your flush magazine and 15 rounds in your extended.
If you were compare the sizes of each gun with 15 rounds at that point there would be a pretty clear winner.
Granted the subcompact can still take a full size 17 round magazine and that’s definitely a cool bonus, although I just don’t find it super practical and I don’t think it outweighs the many benefits of the shield plus.
The subcompact would definitely be better for someone with very large hands though. I have a friend who owns one for that exact reason and that’s totally fair enough.
Thank you for doing the comparison. I have the subcompact, however as soon as I got it out came the max9. I never liked the shield. My first gun was mp 2.0 9c and the shield never lived up to the mp line. My biggest issue with subcompact, its not optic ready. Thank you for sharing and be safe.
The Shield plus also takes 15 round M&P Equalizer mags
Question: Is the new Subcompact the same size as the original 9C? I know the new 2.0 9C is a little larger and holds a few more than the first version of the 9C.
It’s the same and holds the same amount of rounds. 10rd flush fit mag and 12rd w/pinky extension.
Go with the shield 45. Performance Center of course
I don't know if you know what you are talking about. The standard mag for the SC is 12 rounds.
This makes it the same as the old Model 6906. Basically, the same barrel length and standard capacity. Magazine compatibility with the larger model, the 59 series. In fact, Mec-Gar makes a 17-round magazine for the 59 series, so the comparison is complete. Even the weight of the 6906 was within about an ounce of the SC.
This makes it a better choice, since I like to have at least two guns in the house that have magazine compatibility. The Shield Plus is a good gun, but the SC has it beat.
The sheild plus weight is 20 ounce not 17 but good vid.
I’m wondering if the sights are interchangeable from the SC to the Shield Plus??? And, I’m kinda confused why they put the rear sight with no real notch for one hand jam cock on the supposed “PURPOSE CCW” Shield Plus??? You’d think it being purposely built for concealed carry that’d be a consideration!!! On the SC, right next to the slide catch, what’s the purpose of that other little lever/button? I’m not really up on S&W pistol lineup…
Will shield magazines fit in the subcompact m2.0 9mm?
I don’t know why any carry gun comes with crappy three white dot sights. C’mon, some of us don’t know how to change sights and dont want to learn.
trying my best to resist picking up a shield plus OR 3.1 now that its out when i already have a 2.0 sub..
Original Shield owner here in the .40 flavor. 7 +1 is fine as I am a 1911 carrier in colder months. Bottom line is target placement and a reload. Sometimes the G21 comes into play but that is my truck gun with my 6.8 spc "get home package."
Should have also compared fieldstrip procedures, otherwise good
Very nicely done videos, commentary and camera angles. Side note on expectations for nightcstand gun. This might be against the grain, but I think a low capacity gun is just fine for that purpose. In that situation, it'll be decided in one or two shots. The likelihood of needing more I think is when you're out and about.
How bout a Performance Center Shield Plus SC
Help, Having a hard time deciding between the Performance Center Shield Plus, Shield EZ, Glock 26 Gen5, and Walther PDP Compact. Any insights?
I have the gen 5 26 and the plus... same footprint almost but the sheild grip let's me have a better grip. Same capacity with flush mag. Plus one with extended grip. 12 (glock 26) vs 13 (sheild). I carry the sheild but you can make the 26 work especially if you have other 9mm glocks. I shoot them about the same...the trigger change made them very similar. The sheild is easier to carry, and I could draw easier with the flush mag on the sheild vs the glock
Shield plus - it’s not even close
Ya I agree. If I want a tiny 9 I'll go with a tiny 9 like a Hellcat or a 365 or a GX4. The M&P 9 SC is better overall for sure and the Shield Plus is just a little too big to replace it I think.
Crazy this is only comparison video. Im an m&p guy and can hardly tell the difference in the store
We asked for, and have been asking for a review on the SCCY\DVG! What is the problem? I’m sure SCCY would send you a firearm!
Isn’t the subcompact discontinued? Like sig did with their P320 subcompact.
Had the 3.6 model but traded it in for the Shield Plus (13250) came with night sights and three mags
After shooting them both which did you prefer?
@@romans6two338 Shield Plus, honestly it was minimal difference in recoil in my opinion because it shoots like a bigger pistol than it is and the trigger alone makes it worth it.
@@wreckagevic That trigger is sweet when I held it at the store. S&W are great guns.
My m&p9c (original) has a 12 round magazine... did they reduce the capacity in the 2.0 version?
No it's the exact same size and capacity
The Shield Plus is masterpiece. The 4 inch PC model makes everything else seem too much of a downgrade.
Subcompact with a flat face trigger would be nice. Also keep the regular sights rather than suppressor sights like they are doing now. Or just put the safety from the subcompact onto the shield. The shields safety seems too small
I agree, every time I look get ready to buy the shield plus, I look at that safety and say “nah”. I’d buy the subcompact but I’m not crazy about smiths three dot sights.I bought a M&P .45 and those things were to small and they got dingy and were just hard to see.
In my opinion lowest selling gun out of popular bunch in the market is smith and wesson except their revolvers
sub compact should be making the shield or shield plus obsolete
If you own and train on a full size M&P 2.0, the Shield makes no sense for a CCW. Mag comparability, trigger consistency, and sights make the cons of it being bigger irrelevant.
Compact will have more slide mass making it more shootable and less recoil.
You forgot the equalizer mag 15 rounds fits the shield plus ! K
Ty excellent inf😴👉auchh👍
Can you do shield plus vs S&W j frame (442/642)?
Ive been trying to find someone comparing the modern snubs to the modern micro compacts. I own the plus and the 442 though. They are both excellent guns and both are worth having. You cant beat the weight on a jframe airweight for a pocket or ankle gun.
@@mattr918 pocket carrying a 442 at the moment :) I’m trying to decide if a shield would be a waste though because I already have a M&P Compact M2.0 3.6 inch. The shield would probably be too big to carry still. Really liking the snub nose. I’m usually lazy at carrying but the 442 is something I always have on me now
@@Sam1628 I couldn't pocket carry the shield. To me nothing beats a jframe for pocket carry. I carry the shield aiwb and wouldn't carry it anywhere else.
Subcompact has 12-rd mags.