Everything Wrong With Ghostbusters (1984) In 22 Minutes Or Less
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With the new Ghostbusters: Afterlife movie upon us, you bet your bippy we went and looked for sins in the original Ghostbusters film.
Thursday: Singy sins.
Remember, no movie is without sin. Which movie's sins should we count next?
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Can you remove those stupid comments? It's really anoying that people are spamming like that.
Everything wrong with this video.
The video says, 22 minutes or less but it's clearly marked over 22 minutes. ~cool voice sound
Brought to you by "Ghostbusters afterlife" feat 2 bonus end credit scenes in theaters this Friday who gonna call after 37 years
"Where do these stairs go?"
"They go up, Ray"
And that's become a personal response of mine ever since.
"They also go down, Rad."
🤪
I can't count the amount of times my Dad and I have repeated those lines when approaching a staircase :D
Whenever someone asks me where we're going I say "forwards". I'm thinking now that most of my instincts were borne of this movie.
"Are these the elevators that go up? No these ones only go side to side, here's your sign" - Bill Engval
Haha same Here, brilliant line
It took me 37 years to appreciate the subtle irony of Louis always being locked out of his apartment, as he later (of course) becomes the Keymaster - and effortlessly opens Dana's door.
so yeah, pretty much!
I wonder if that was his paranormal activity instead of exploding eggs.
Win. I wonder how many more of these we've missed in our hundreds of viewings since we were 4?
Holy shit your right!
I never saw the original Ghostbusters. I saw the 2016 Ghostbusters first and it was awesome and hilarious. I saw people saying to see the original Ghostbusters, so I did. I watched 1 and 2 back to back. Both were not as good as the 2016 Ghostbusters. Too much cis white male privilege in 1 and 2. If you take a class on Critical Race Theory you could see that.
How can you not take a sin off for Egon's incredibly deadpan, "I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought"? Harold Ramis' delivery cracks me up every time.
So many brilliant lines, it's hard to choose favourites.
The great thing about this, and GB itself, is that pretty much every sin is also an iconic cinematic moment. Every detail of this movie, no matter how sinful, is a part of everyone who grew up in or around the 80s' youth.
So every sin is actuality a "win" or a "sin off". Would be interesting see a movie sin score be negative.
yeah, just the opposite of the remake over 30 years later where the creators were like "well this is a mediocre piece of crap and we don't have money for marketing, what should we do?" and the answer was "gender swap every roll, and make that the headline, the sexist guys will be up in arms on the internet, the feminists will be up in arms about the sexists up in arms, and the beta males who want to get laid will white knight... this thing will market itself!"
"yeah but what about the movie? it's still kinda bleh.."
"sir have you seen GB 2?"
"fair point.. do it!"
@@notusingmyname4791I think the actual timeline ran:
"Let's make a reboot of Ghostbusters".
"Great idea, we need a USP"
"Let's make them all women and replace Janine Potts with a man. Make him dumb, though"
"Fantastic. What is the plotline?"
"Who cares?"
Ironically, for as underused as Ernie Hudson was, he still has one of the best lines in the movie: "Ray, when someone asks you if you're a God, you say YES!"
"That's a big Twinkie!" is EH's best line, though the one you site is #2.
It's against my programming to impersonate a deity
"I've seen shit that'll turn you white!"
Ernie Hudson had the two best lines in this movie! The one above and, "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." Love me some Hudson! Incredibly underated and underutilized actor! He was fun in the Crow, and absolutely transcendent in the Basketball Diaries.
"No offense guys, but I've gotta get my own lawyer."
Actually, Louis locking himself out is 100% legit. Most older apt bldgs in NYC, while they do not have temples to other dimensions or demon dogs, do have a lock with a button that lets you select auto-lock or not. Most people discover that button only after locking themselves out of their own apartment exactly like Louis did.
I always assumed it's because his party guests locked him out of his own apartment, intentionally, since, yknow, theyre clients and not actual friends.
Can confirm. Ran into that a lot as a cable guy, even here in Ohio.
@@shadowvash07 what about when he got locked out while talking to Dana about her tv, no one was in his house
@@andrewft31 for that instance, it's what J Griffin said.
@@shadowvash07 it's also a joke due to the fact he'll be the keymaster
"When did Peter become a skeptic?"
I was under the impression he always was a skeptic and was only part of the team to get free money for experiments without doing any work
"So your alien had a room at the Paramis Hilton?"
@@flowingafterglow629 I'm still wondering why the Master of all people was in Paramus. ;)
He's a textbook charlatan
My fave line, delivered deadpan by Egon on sight of the Marshmallow Man; "I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought."
I also love, after they shoot up the maid's cart and are discussing their first "test," that we see her in the background, trying to put out a small fire by spraying it with windex. XDXDXD
Love the sin deduction for the Rick Moranis ad lib. I’ll say what a friend of mine once said: I really don’t think we appreciated Moranis enough when he was still making movies.
Rick Moranis was a comedy gold mine. It's sad he isn't remembered as more of a legend.
@@daethalion1725 Quite the singer too, as Little Shop Of Horrors shows. Another great Moranis improvisation? Dark Helmet playing with the toy dolls in Spaceballs.
I must say I was pleasantly surprised a few years ago when the news blew up that Moranis was attacked in NYC by some rando and the Internet was HERE for that little guy.
Great news everyone! He's back. Unfortunately it has been put on hold because of the pandemic and that asshole who attacked him NY.
But he told someone he "never retired" he just had to raise his kids since his wife passed away. Now that the kids are older he is taking roles.
I NEED MORE RICK MORANIS. NEED
@@LudaChez I thought he said he wasn't interested...would be great to see him back!
Fun Fact: Sigourney Weaver landed the role of Dana by barking like a dog and growling during her audition, to simulate how Dana might act while she was possessed.
And they thought Weinstein was kinky
*Simulate
@@johnthwaites5976 I think they know what they said
She barks, she drools, she claws...
I heard she got down on all fours as well... then lifted her leg and urinated on the producer.
Cinema Sins took off a sin for Ernie's line of " Ray, if someone asks if you're a God, you say....YES!" and I fucking love it!! It is literally the best line in the whole movie!
That line alone should have removed ALL current and future sins. The video then ends with Zero Sins for the first time. It’s like poetry. It rhymes.
Venkman carrying Thorazine is actually consistent with his character being a psychologist (one of his 2 PhDs), as it was a regular practice at the time for psychologists to carry Thorazine in case they encountered crazy people who needed to be subdued. Even his asking the librarian if she was menstruating was consistent with his being a psychologist.
Yeah, but 300 mls is a LOT.
in the 80s there were psychologists walking around with thorazine in their pocket... just in case?
Which was a very silly thing in the context of the movie, but to anyone who wasn't around a Psychologist for more than normal sessions, that would be so out of place. Kudos to the team for actually keeping that level of realism!
Psychologists aren't licensed to dispense medication, only psychiatrists are. If a p-ologist thinks you should be on a psychotropic drug he has to get an MD or a p-trist to write the rx and monitor its affects.
Psychologist don’t usually handle drugs!!! That’s the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist!!
“That would have worked if you hadn’t stopped me.” Improvised by Harold Ramis showing that this whole cast was friggin brilliant, not just Bill Murray.
And to paraphrase Winston, “I LOVE THIS MOVIE!”
WHY SIN THE ORIGINAL GHOSTBUSTERS?
It makes it even crazier when you realize Bill Murray was just a last minute addition.
Dr. Helen Fielding genuinely drilled a hole in her head. It was captured in a (now lost) documentary called " Heartbeat In The Brain". It's called trepanation. She's alive and well to this day.
The 2016 version was similarly improvised, but somehow didn't manage to produce a single quotable line.
Here's a fun fact Venkman was originally created for John Belushi
The librarian had already lost her mind. She had just taken the job after fleeing her family in Florida after her son, Ray Finkle, missed a Super Bowl-winning super bowl for the Dolphins. After her ghost encounter, her husband saw her on the news and came to take her back to their house in Florida. Now completely traumatized, she believes that her missing son will come back any time as a ghost, since now she has proof that they exist.
Aah I was wondering where I've seen her before 😅😂.
Laces out!
RIP Alice Drummond 😔
Laces out
This is brilliant and so are you. Hilarious 😂👌🏿
Don't let this distract you from the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon.
The scene where Louis becomes possessed in front of the restaurant and all of the patrons just turn back to their dinner is so New York. Love it!
The reason this movie works so well is because the characters are smart, competent, and likable. Most comedies make their characters morons and invite you to laugh at them, but this movie invites you to laugh with them. Plus, Bill Murray his the uncanny ability to take any line and make it laugh-out-loud hilarious.
This is all the stuff the 2016 version threw out the window.
likeable, but highly flawed. If Venkman wasn't Bill Murray, you'd want him arrested for any number of reasons. Ray has a childlike innocence that bites them in the ass more than once. Egon has an obsession with his work that borders on self destructive.
And Winston is the straight man/audience self-insertion character, but he also jumped into a job he had no understanding of on the promise of a steady paycheck.
My point is the fact that these characters are imperfect (and the film acknowledges that fact) is what makes them work
I can't believe it took them this long to get to this movie.
Great editing as well, the movie is so well paced. Look at the deleted parts then think how it would slow the film down.
Fun Fact: The reason Bill Murray isn't covered in marshmellow at the end of this movie along with everyone else is that he absolutely HATED the slime scene at the hotel when Slimer nailed him. In fact, he only agreed to do one shot of being covered in slime, immediately ran to the shower afterwards, and refused to do any other shots that day. The original script called for the Ghostbusters to get slimed several more times, but the director cut them out in deference to Bill Murray. But at the end, there was no way they could yada-yada the fact that the entire top of the building was covered in marshmellow, so... the film crew got together and said, "You know... it might be funny if Bill Murray walked out from the explosion completely unscathed, like he just got lucky or something." And that's what they did, and that's why Bill only had a little fluffy on his head at the end... and he hated THAT much!
Also Fun Fact: Ghostbusters 2 had zero shots with Bill Murray being hit with slime, because he specifically put in his contract that he would never be in contact with anything slimy in this movie. He was so adamant that he threatened to torpedo the entire movie unless the producers agreed to that stipulation. In fact, when it was suggested that it might be funny if he got nailed at the end by slime, he walked off the set and refused to continue until his manager smoothed things over.
Bill Murray and slime do not mix.
That's pretty cool actually
So Bill Murray and I have something in common
Marshmallow.
Bill Murray is a legend, but his reputation as a bit of a prima donna seems justified...
I've read somewhere that the only people who like Bill Murray are the people who've never met him. He seems like a straight up a-hole. Brilliant, but an a-hole nonetheless. It's because of him that we didn't get a GB III and he literally waited until Harold Ramis was on his death bed to make up with him. That's not somebody I'd look up to as a legend. Don't get me wrong, I'll never tire of his iconic movies, mostly bc I can separate the characters from the actor.
18:14 Ernie Hudson actually kind of got the shaft in this film. he was originally written as a full part of the team (as a former Air Force major, even) , but the script was changed late to drastically reduce his role.
according to Hudson: "The night before filming begins, however, I get this new script and it was shocking. The character was gone. Instead of coming in at the very beginning of the movie, like page 8, the character came in on page 68 after the Ghostbusters were established. His elaborate background was all gone, replaced by me walking in and saying, 'If there’s a steady paycheck in it, I’ll believe anything you say.' So that was pretty devastating."
That's because the role was originally written for Eddie Murphy, who ended up being unavailable.
@@TightPantsJack True, but it's pretty *y to Hudson to say, "Yeah, you're our second choice, so we're cutting most of your lines."
That hero shot was just messed up
@@mattpedone6649 on the flip side, Ernie got to play a starring role in one of the most iconic movies of all time and has some of the most memorable lines. Not bad for being the backup choice to Eddie Murphy.
I kinda like Winston being an everyman off the street more than I would have liked him as an Air Force major.
Walter's motivation is very easy to understand, he wanted to make a name for himself by 'exposing' and bringing down the Ghostbusters. It had nothing to do with the environment or doing his job.
The government makes it difficult for people to run their businesses all the time. It's why Sonny Bono went into Congress.
How I never learned that Moranis ad-libbed the house party scene is beyond me... But damn does it raise my respect levels from Peck to Puft!
Gotta answer your questions at 2:20 ish. Egon was trying to do something called Trepanning where you drill a hole in your head to be able to better communicate with spirits, or experience the divine, or connect to the greater world, etc. This was basically an inside joke for Dan Akroyd's parapsychological friends.
Nice.
The podcasts stuff you should know did an episode on Trepanning, if anyone is interested in learning more about it.
9:23 Jared Leto's character from the movie "the little things" lol
Also, Newton famously stuck a needle in his own eye as an experiment. That's just the kind of stuff mad geniuses are expected to do.
so, lobotomy?
I'd just like to take this opportunity to state that "Ghostbusters: The Video Game" (2009) is a fantastic conclusion to the original movie trilogy. Don't sleep on it just because it's a game; it plays all the hits and is a fantastic send-off to the four original characters and their actors.
And acording to Dan Acroyed it is ment to be the 3rd movie
I had it for the DS, I couldn’t past the first level
@@sombertownds149 Well, I can't speak to the story, but the gameplay is entirely different. Safe to say it's not a fair representation of the "proper" game (like any handheld port).
No doubt. Best licensed game I can think of
I can say for a fact that I had gotten scared playing that fucking game smh
10/10
I don't know why, But it puts a smile on my face when He removes sins and has joyful reactions for great scenes and doesn't just sin the video for the silly, questionable, or stupid, etc. scenes in movies. This was a great video to watch.
The use of "I Want a New Drug" at the start was slyly brilliant, underscoring the later court case around the movie's theme song
EXACTLY!!! Came here to say exactly that.
Unpopular Opinion, but my favorite moment is when the calm and smart Egon loses it and tells Walter: "Your mother!".
Even Egon can lose his shit over the stupidity of Walter shutting down the Containment Unit and still blaming them for everything.
I thought he said you motherf****** to him
I always laugh at that bit too - it's such a childish insult and so perfectly out of character for Egon that it makes it hilarious.
I love that part too bc he’s so calm and low toned and to see him react like that was awesome
I also loved his line "I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought. "
Honestly, I can't believe y'all haven't sinned this movie already.
@UCi5riskoy5SFew3uJWhCkUw point taken
Me neither, I was sure that they already had sinned it.
For real. I thought they already did it loo
I thought they did except it was a whats the damage episode
@@takuapilot1190 Oh, that's what it was! Thanks. :D
The guy that keeps getting locked out of his apartment ends up being the Key Master
I was 6 when this came out. My Daughter is now 6 and LOVES this movie. We watched it on Halloween (as I do every year). She even quotes from it "It IS a star," :)
My daughter's favorite line always was Louis, tryingto ward off the demon dog, "Nice doggie! Cute little pooch! Maybe I got a milkbone-AAAAH!" She quotes it and cracks up every time.
Honestly Jeremy’s short singing of “busting makes me feel good” was high key beautiful and sounded amazing. Also the fact he stated how much he loves this movie makes me happy because it’s literally my favorite movie ever
so true
My favorite part of the "This man has no d*ck" scene is when Walter loses his temper & Venkman replies "... it's what I heard!" GREAT line! 😂👍
Since when does “dick” need to be censored?
@@lohphat ✌️😂
Since the 90's, I think. Ever seen Ghostbusters on local TV? You'd be surprised what they censor/edit out!
Then he's like "I'll fix you up venkman!"
"I'm gonna miss him,"
Ray just nods in agreement lol
@@pineconeking2526 telling him they should get him a gift basket
Rick Moranis... the one person who makes every moment better just by existing.
They missed the error mentioned in every tour of the New York Public library. The sorting area with the ghost has to be in the basement, and the impressive reading area they run through in order to leave the building is on the top floor. There is no way that the Ghost Busters ran from the basement all the way to the top floor, to leave the building via the exterior main stairs off the mid ground floor.
Egon's slamming of the firehouse was to try and get a better price from the realtor. Which Ray spoiled with his enthusiasm.
And the movie had just established that Ray was the one who would be buying the place, since he had the cash from the mortgage loans.
@@sage4365 Neither did Jeremy apparently. You'd think a guy whose job it is, is to dissect a movie and find all the plot holes wouldn't miss blatant plot points...
@@tjmarx I love how you critize Jeremy roughly 27 times throughout your comments but still watch all sorts of cinemasins videos. Do you like them or not man? If not, why still come around?
@@tjmarx That is not his job. This isn't serious. Sure, sometimes they mention legit things, but this is mostly a riff.
@@PajamusPrime You understand you can criticise a video and still like the overall show...right? Like you understand that simple concept?
If you don't you've got bigger problems than talking to me online is going to solve
If you do realise that, then you should also realise how dopey your comment was.
Sin 90 is a no-go. The chair Dana is sitting in when the demon hands come out had flat arm rests, while the one in the later shot has rounded arm rests. Two different chairs, not the same one.
I'm glad someone pointed that out. I've seen this movie a million times, but even a short glance can tell you it's not the same chair.
@@Hypestrike1 A sin for failing to use the same chair it is, then.
I always presumed Dana DID call the number on the television screen and they gave her the address of the firehouse - that’s why she enters the door looking confused about if she’s in the right place. Once she explained what had happened only then did they need to see her apartment.
The concept of "choosing" Gozer's form is addressed in Vinz Clortho's rant while being examined; "He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms!"
The two things that Jeremy has an unhealthy obsession with: His college girlfriend and spicy Albanian cola drinks
His college girlfriend must have broken up with him over his love of spicy Albanian cola drinks. It's the only thing that makes sense. Still probably worth it.
No coke! PEPSI!
@@SpXPtwn ONE PEPSI! And don’t forget the CHEESEBURGER CHEESEBURGER CHEESEBURGER CHEESEBURGER!
@@katroyal6309 Probably! But hearing him talk about these drinks so much makes me wonder what they actually taste like! Is it really delicious, or does it do weird stuff to you like I’m told peyote does?
Yeah several years of the multiple choice Albanian drink joke and college girlfriend since nearly the beginning
No sin removed for "Go get'er, Ray!"?! That's such a great moment!
Especially as a callback to the library scene, when Ray yells, "Get her!"
@@zqxzqxzqx1 It's amazing that they could do a callback to a joke from way at the beginning of the movie, and have it work. It's a testament to just how much this movie grabbed the viewer's attention from the beginning.
I love how many sins you took off for this movie. Absolutely deserved by this masterpiece of a film
LOL! At 6:40 the who Ecto-1 timeline. I’ve always laughed about how Ray is fixing up the car, they eat, celebrating their first customer as though they are just starting to work for Dana, and the car is instantly all ready to go to the hotel. I do love this movie, though.
The thing I've always loved about the 'bogus experiment' is that it actually starts to work on the guy and Venkman ignores it in order to seduce the lady. :)
It's actually based on a real life experiment taking place in universities around yankville in the 50s through into the 80s (cold war period), with funding from the Pentagon.
It's also referenced with Neil Patrick Harris' character in 1997s Starship Troopers.
The scene is a hyperbole comment on the criticism of the study. That it was often conducted by the least academic faculty members on staff, with a bit of sleaze and bias depending on how the tester felt about the subject being tested.
The dod had hoped the experiment would uncover people with psychic abilities that could be weaponised in some way or used in strategic planning on the battlefield. Ie. They know what the enemy is going to do before they do it.
It was part of a collection of studies into the paranormal that the Pentagon undertook throughout the cold war looking for a military advantage over the Soviets.
Makes me wonder if Peter was so bored by the amount of people he has come across that are actually psychic that he just started screwing with them for funsies, as well as for possible hooking up with students
I don't think it was starting to work. He only got one right. He would inevitably get 1 out of 5 right.
@@tjmarx : It's also inspired by a quasi-academic study where students were ordered to administer shocks to other students. They were told that turning the nob up over a certain point could injure or kill the subject. Then, the person running the study would order them to turn the nob to dangerous levels, telling them that they wouldn't be held responsible if the other subject was killed. In theory, the study was designed to test if subjects were willing to follow orders. There were numerous problems with how it was ran.
@@multi-florum You're talking about the Milgram experiment. Whilst I can see why you would think it's related, in actual fact the real life psychic test the Pentagon ran through universities did indeed use negative feedback (such as electric shocks) on some participants to see whether people could be forced to develop psychic abilities they didn't know they had.
They also used positive feedback (rewards, such as foods) and in later decades the program experimented with the use of psychotropics (like LSD) to induce psychic abilities.
William Atherton, who played Walter Peck as well as Richard Thornburg in Die Hard (yes, that is two signature characters named after penis), was so successful at crafting despised characters, he is consistently heckled during his daily life
I have a theory that Atherton can be blamed for a certain segment of the population hating the EPA, News Journalist, and College Professors.
@@paratus04 Perhaps, but having come from the 80's, I think he just captured the essence of that already existing distrust and distilled it into character form. I think it's what made his characters so good, they embodied so well that which they represented. We already hated those things, he just brought that into focus.
I award you 10,000 sins for the fact that these videos can still hold up after 8 years of making them
"Yes its true, this man has no dick" even at my young age of watching this I knew this was one of the best burns in cinematic history
Whenever I’m unfortunate enough to catch Young Sheldon on tv and Annie Potts comes on, I can’t help but say ‘He was a little fussy at first, then we just gave him some French Bread pizza…passed right out”
Would have been funnier if Sheldon pulled out Boggle or Super Mario Bros
If there's something strange.
In your movie.
Who you gonna call?
*Jeremy* ~ I ain't 'fraid of no Sins
I take it Th3Birdman is Walter Peck?
Jeremy: "...Sinning makes me feel GOOD!"
I loved working with Ernie Hudson several years ago on a western. He is such a down to earth guy. I had taken a picture with him on my phone, but unfortunately, that phone was stolen, so I have no proof of our working together, except for the film itself, and IMDb.
That drill a hole in his head line was an adlib by Bill Murray, and Egon's reply was an adlib, too. His actor's ability to roll with it was glorious and i hope he's resting in peace.
"THE FLOWERS... ARE STILL STANDING!!!" Reverse ding, sin off...
I always imagine Winston was celebrating NYC because his being there at the right time got him the opportunity to join the team.
God damn that ghostbusters and NYPD line was brilliant. Well played sirs
This movie is so great. When my dad used to take us to the video store on a Friday night, Id rent this all the time And he's used to get pissed off at me. Said I was wasting his money. For my birthday he bought me the tape. I still think that was the best gift ever
We were able to hook up two VCRs together and make a copy of the movie onto a blank tape. I would put it on day after day while playing with the Real Ghostbusters toys.
5:26 The nameplate is almost certainly Janine‘s personal property that she carries around from job to job.
Probably why they hired her in the first place - she came with her own nameplate.
She's probably a temp at that time.
My late mother kept her "Miss Bernacchi" nameplate for years after she stopped working as a secretary. I forget whether or not I still have it.
Rick Moranis is a frickin' king and I died with the "Bustin makes me feel goooood!" comment at the end 🤣🤣🤣
can not BELIEVE you skipped my favorite line "four FEET above her covers" is the best
Also love the video
I always thought Egon was saying all the things he didn’t like about the fire station just to drive the price down, not because they actually didn’t want it. Ray was like a child and was “showing his cards to the realitor”
Can’t believe you didnt even mention ‘dropping off or picking up up’ its again such a classic, well delivered line.
I thought the same thing. I was sure that moment would have been worthy of removing a sin.
It's "Dropping off or picking up?".
@@istrasci you are correct, my bad. I’ll correct it.
To be fair, like 85% of the lines in this movie are worth mentioning, but that would make it a 2 hour video... which I'm all for
He’s a sailor, he’s in new York, we get this guy laid we won’t have any trouble
You're gonna endanger us. You're gonna endanger our client, the nice lady who paid us in advance before she became a dog.
Not necessarily. There’s definitely a very slim chance we’ll survive
Speaking of sailors, the harbormaster "says the Titanic just arrived!"
Cheech: "Well, better late than never?"
Whoops! Do we not speak of the sequel? (*ducks*)
@@alm2187 no the sequel's good.
@@d.j.w2600 No it's not. Just watch the original again.
One of my favorite lines is Janine's: "I've seen TV, I know you can't come in here without a warrant or writ or something!" I still use that one when commenting on political articles.
So basically what we’ve learned from this video is that Ghostbusters is a perfect movie
The best part of Venkman's experiment is he doesn't _have_ to flip the cards! He's studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability, or seeing if providing someone a punishment (the shocks and messages of failure) creates an enhancement of ESP. Just shows how sadistically clever he is when the point of his experiment actually _is_ to hurt people, and that in the end it was a success since the guy Actually did predict the wavy lines accurately.
the college version that is being done here was originally a test that other students were supposed to do and it was actually to test the students giving the test to see if they would do it
Fun fact, he's not using negative reinforcement, which is the removal of an unpleasant stimulus as a reward, but positive punishment, which is introducing unpleasant stimulus as a form of punishment.
@@Craxin01 oh, that's even better. If he'd gotten the terminology right and paid attention to the guy's responses, he could have had a brilliant paper.😄
@@Craxin01 Everybody gets that wrong.
@@tobybartels8426 True, but a psychology professor should know better. That was the writers not doing their research.
18:38 there’s actually a deleted scene that shows Louis and Dana talking and Louis asks in a very disguised question of “did we…” implying he was asking if they had sex during their possession after they were saved to which Dana just says “no Louis no” implying that they did have sex but she just doesn’t want to talk about it it’s a funny scene you can see on the dvd for this movie which includes a bunch of deleted scenes from filming
still gets a sin
I didn't need a deleted scene to figure the two beings named key master and gatekeeper that were male and female slept together...
They did. Cinemasins gets a sin for not showing at least a still of Dana showing up with a baby in Ghostbusters 2
@@chriswhite950 I didn't get the significance of the names as a child, only as an adult.
@@chriswhite950 Classic case of putting Tab A into Slot B.
"Dogs and cats living together!..." Always takes me back to the first time seeing the film; in the family living room with a Basset Hound and Siamese cat.
18:36, there is actually a deleted scene where Louis asks, "wait, did we?"
And Dana says, "no Louis, no."
But then she shows up in 2 with a kid and is kinda evasive about the dad...
@@Lans32485 yeah, but the kid is like one or two, and Ghostbusters 2 is 5 years after the original, so it couldn't be Louis' kid.
@@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257 You don't know how long demon pregnancies take.
That pole sin might be my favorite college girlfriend joke in a long time!
How was this posted before the video
I think the 'Don't look directly at the trap' thing was more like a 'don't look at the welding arc' type warning.
While we're on that sin, what is he talking about regarding the movie set's drug dealer? "And Egon will face fewer repercussions than the drug dealer to the set of this movie." Was that a known thing that the drug dealer on the movie's set got busted or something? Or am I just taking a "throw-away line" style joke too seriously?
@@dreadz3758 other way around, it's saying the drug dealer got fewer repercussions for being a drug dealer because they were always buying the drugs being dealt. Because 1984 and cocaine.
I also always thought don't look at the trap was a welding arc thing.
I always thought it was like my parents telling me to "Don't look directly at the tree" before I inevitably rode my bike into the tree... every time
@@Lectrikfro That's not the same effect; your belief that looking at the tree would sway your ability to aim your hands is the reason that occured, which is a form of cognitive bias; it's 2 fold. The authority bias, and the Placebo effect. An authority told you that doing something some way would result in a certain action, so your body went out of it's way to perform that action as was described to cause it to come true.
This doesn't happen to nearly anyone else, everyone is fully capable of separating the actions their eyes do from the actions their hands and feet are doing; in any moment you were unable to, it was likely because of a personal affliction, not an ACTUAL reason.
That warning is more like an Arc Flash warning. Look too long, who knows what could happen? Retinal damage, sure, but what if it burns your soul out of your body and steals it? They say the eyes are the window to the soul. In any case, the warning wasn't for an immediate consequence, it was for a prolonged consequence. If egot looked for longer, or looks a lot more often in his ghostbusting life time ,there could be consequences. Just like a radiologist doing X-Rays, if they went around the shielding on enough X-Rays, there will be consequences.
@@Taijifufu 1984 is a little late for the cocaine era. This was two years after the death of Belushi, and well into the Reagan era. In fact, the Just Say No phrase apparently originated in 1984. Blues Brothers was likely a drug-filled set, but I have never heard anything about that going on during Ghostbusters. That line seemed out-of-place in this video.
this movie is so unique, it is so absurd but with the idea, circumstances and plethora of talent and timing (80's) it just works beautifully
What is such a crime is that Winston actually had a backstory that made him on par with the other Ghostbusters, but they cut it out.
We need Everything Wrong With A Christmas Story this Christmas!
Ho. Ho. Ho. *Tap*
i would love if he mentioned that leg lamp it made me laugh so hard in that movie lol xD
"You'll sin your eye out, kid!"
I totally agree, the "oh, fudge" scene is worthy of 2 sins
@@jimb.7523 that’s a good one!
I’ve seen this movie a thousand times and can’t believe I’ve never noticed the Stay Puft marshmallow bag when Dana’s eggs were popping out of the crate
They missed one. As the ghost blow their way out of the fire house, there an ad for Staypuft Marshmallows painted on a nearby building.
Love that they used "I Want a New Drug" for the music!
really fun trivia: (1.) Bill Murray was Peter Venkman in the movie, Lorenzo Music was Peter Venkman in the Real Ghostbusters cartoon; Lorenzo Music was the voice of Garfield in Garfield in Friends, and Bill Murray was the voice for Garfield in the movie (2.) The scene where the door falls down upon their arrival to Dana's apartment before going up to meet Gozer is a homage to a scene where Mickey, Goofy, and Donald are hunting ghosts in a haunted house (3.) Nobody said Vinz Clortho was intelligent or had any sort of sense of direction
What they didn't mention in the film is why crossing the streams was suddenly such a good and obvious idea.
You are supposed to figure it out:
Complete Photonic Reversal - by crossing the streams against the temple, they essentially destroyed the other dimension.
holy fuck I never thought of this in 30+ years.
So they're the greatest mass murderers in history? And those murders didn't create missions more angry ghosts out for revenge? Maybe that'll be the plot of the next movie.
@@jedijones It's a Hell Dimension ruled by a genocidal God that kills everything they control. It's fine.
When the ghost escape the containment unit. Its really an effect from radiation. Obviously this movie treats nuclear energy a little differently. But a prime example was when the Chernobyl power plant blew up, a beam of light shot into the air, the particles were ionizing the air. Which is even more crazy that this movie came out before that happened.
did... did the ghostbusters pull a simpsons?
Nah those were ghosts. Ghosts are sometimes depicted like how vampires turn into a swarm of bats, ghosts turn into balls of light. It's in the script that they're ghosts.
@@Taijifufu they are ghosts. I'm saying that the beams shooting out are taken from ionized radiation examples, Just treated as ghosts
@@storageunit2683 What is your source for this; because it sounds ENTIRELY like an extrapolation.
@@D-Vinko They have nuclear accelerators strapped to their backs, the fire house has a storage unit that uses nuclear energy. When something goes criticality, it can emits a glow or in extreme cases a beam of light will shoot into the air. Egon says "dropping a bomb in the city" he is quite literally saying turning off the power will cause prompt criticality. There are many cases of that happening. I'm saying this movie does the same thing except it's over exaggerated with ghosts
Best part of this movie is where Egon yells "YOUR MOTHER!" when Peck finally pushes him over the edge.
Just watched the new one and I never felt more nostalgic
"I'm sure when Ray wakes up he'll realize he had a wight dream."
The 4th best kind of dream.
I would have called it a spectral emission.
That's not what "wight" means, though! If the GBs are passing on the left, they have the right of way. If Dr. Stantz came back from the dead to reanimate his own corpse, he'd be the wight of Ray! 😁🙃😉
What are the other 3? lol
"Ray what's on your pants?"
"Ectoplasm"
"Oh right, sure Ray..."
@@alm2187 And it's hard to use the phones in China because every time you wing, you get the wong number.
You missed a couple of sins. When Stay Puft's head first appears behind the buildings, at one point you can clearly see he's wearing a Michelin Man t-shirt. I spoke with Billy Bryan, the person who wore the costume(wonderful man btw, lots of cool stories), and he confirmed he wore that shirt as an inside joke since we were only supposed to see Stay Puft's head. So of course he wasnt wearing the rest of the costume. Nobody thought there would be a section of the buildings where the audience could see his upper torso. Another sin was when Stay Puft gets blasted, you will notice his tie is missing. Billy said the suit was so expensive and they had so little time and budget that they only could do one take. So they did it, shot looked great, and then they realized....they forgot to reattach the tie! Too late, they just had to roll with it and make sure the tie was back for subsequent shots.
These are the kind of things they should fix with CGI now.
That “sexual harassment” you pointed out in this movie is called flirting. It’s more just playful than anything in this movie
I've been waiting for a sins video on this movie for so long and now it's finally here :)
16:54 Anyway, I'd like to point out that the chair she's sitting in is obviously a different one from the one that got ripped up, with curved, rounded arms rather than the flat rectangle ones of the torn up chair, which you immediately show in comparison.
nah what happened was the chair heard it was going to be straddled by half naked Sigourney Weaver and wanted to look its best so transformed into a more classy form, luckiest chair in Hollywood lol
Never thought about why Dana returns to life as usual in her haunted apartment. Two explanations come to mind, though:
1. She insisted on doing so so as not to continue living her life in fear. *OR*
2. Ray & Egon checked Peter's negative readings and confirmed that, yes, he was using that instrument correctly.
If I remember correctly, half of her apartment blew up
The family did the same thing in Poltergeist. And she likely couldn't afford to go anywhere else.
17:11 I KNEW you'd remove a sin or 2 at least for this!
I’ve been waiting for this sins video for such a long time! After all the iconic movies they’ve sinned this is the one I’ve been waiting for the most.
I've worked in a library, If someone ever reorganized the card catalog, that's Exactly what my vengeful ghost would do
Also, the ghost is probably pre-card catalog and destroyed it because it's "new" and didn't exist when she was alive.
There is nothing to sin in this movie, it's absolutely perfect 😂😂
Exactly! This movie is epic!
Totally agree!!!!!
Meh. Never saw the appeal of it.
@@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon Nostalgia of the people who saw it in their youth
@@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon So many people bitch now about how Hollywood has no originality. Ghostbusters was original. We had nothing like it. We've had nothing truly like it since.
Missed the fact that the jail cell door in the back was wide open during that scene! Love revisiting the classics!
This is by far my favorite movie of all time.
I wish there was a little more love for my favorite joke from Egon.
When asked if he had any hobbies by Janine, he says, "I collect spores, molds, and fungus." Which sounds like an INCREDIBLY nerdy hobby, and is, but it's also something every human being on the planet does. Our bodies collect all sorts of things, on and within. It's seriously one of my favorite most missed jokes in this film!
Also, a subtle clue in the last movie as to who owns the farm. When the kids are searching the barn, we see a collection of jars that are clearly filled with spores, molds and fungi!
I'm surprised you didn't sin the Judgement Day conversation for quoting the wrong chapter. Ray quoted Revelation 6:12, but says it was Revelation 7:12. Apparently, Jason Reitman thought about this for the new movie, and Ray has a tattoo of Revelation 6:12 on his arm, visible in the trailer.
Fun Fact: Jason Reitman, Ivan Reitman's son, played a character named Jason in GBII. He played the bratty kid that said, "My dad says you guys are full of crap," from the beginning of the film at the birthday party.
Thank you. The incorrect Bible citation has bothered me since 1984. Now I can finally rest in peace.
One thing that always bothered me was when Ray says "The Tunguska Blast of 1909." The Tunguska Blast was in 1908!
Revelation 6:12 = I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,
Revelation 7:12 = saying: “Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!”
Well, he simply remembered the chapter wrong. It's a mistake people can easily do.
14:52 - several more missed sins - just before this scene, Peck was marching into the premises without identifying himself, nor his legal reason for being there. He only revealed that when challenged by Janine. He threatened to have her arrested for interfering with an officer of the law. An EPA inspector is not an officer of the law. There was a police officer there, he was not the one being interfered with, and even if he was, Peck would not be the one to have her arrested, I'm pretty sure the cop would be able to manage that all by himself.
Sin #22:An automatic locking door is common for me. I've lived in at least 4 apartments that did that. Your key acted like a door handle, and if I got locked out I would have to go up to the roof and get in via the fire escape. Also he's the key master later on. Kinda cleaver on the writers part.
Do u have a problem with every movie, JUST ENJOY THEM 😂
Honestly this is still in my top 5 favorites of all time, I thought the pacing and comedic timing was golden 👌
@@user-km5rr9nh4b no thanks
@@augustnoir2004 it's a bot
@@christianparrish6647 they're doing their best😂
@@augustnoir2004 Are you encouraging them?
@@christianparrish6647 🤷can't stop a being with a purpose, may as well let em live
Haha, I personally loved the egg scene. It was unique. Honestly, when I was a kid, I was even too scared to open our refrigerator for a while. 😅
Oh good, it wasn't just me:)
A lot of these scenes are based on "what visual tricks is it possible for the special effects crew to do with 1984 technology?" That's why the eggs cook themselves, why Dana floats above her bed via an old stage magician trick and why the ghosts look like the aliens from Close Encounters floating above the city.
21:41 That would have been unarguably better.
The lore of Jeremy's college girlfriend increases...
Id really like to meet her and ask some serious questions.
*RIP Harold Ramis*
Egon was always my favorite Ghostbuster, in the movies and in the "Real Ghostbusters" cartoon.
That hair was outrageously awesome.
yeah his death is why we never got a proper Ghostbusters 3 and instead got the woke abomination with the 4 bimbos, Dan and Harold wrote the first two and he didn't want to do a 3rd with out him :(
@@blakearmentrout7717 Weeeell not really. There was a script for GB3 but there were studio issues with it, and also Bill Murray didn’t want to do another one. Ramis was actually game for it generally, but they could never get everything lined up and ready to go and Bill was really adamant about not wanting to do another one unless he could die and be a ghost lol. It was REALLY weird, but hey… that’s Bill for ya.
Love the humour of the cinema sins narrator, I laughed so hard with image of Ernie Hudson dropping his pants and shouting “ busting makes me feel good” 😂😂🤣. It’s something you would see visually on family guy’s side gag
The slime on Nickelodeon was inspired by You Can't Do That On Television, which debuted years before Ghostbusters and featured green slime prominently. Giving you 1 sin for not knowing that.