Jim Cornette on The Worst Wrestlers Ever

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  • čas přidán 8. 10. 2022
  • From Episode 451 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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  • @joshuaDstarks
    @joshuaDstarks Před rokem +1154

    When Great Khali held the belt up upside down I knew we were in for the most glorious era.

    • @splatterfodderinc
      @splatterfodderinc Před rokem +17

      lol

    • @KryMoore
      @KryMoore Před rokem +31

      Didn’t Jim blow Both his knees out when he tried wrasslin, does that make him eligible for worst???

    • @everybodywantstoruletherad279
      @everybodywantstoruletherad279 Před rokem +96

      @@KryMoore he fell off a scaffold and big bubba was supposed to catch him. Lol. Didn’t go as planned. Lol

    • @wake6937
      @wake6937 Před rokem +61

      @@KryMoore he’s a Manager

    • @justoneguy2487
      @justoneguy2487 Před rokem +52

      Ah yes, Great Khali - billed as the first and only Ultra Heavyweight in a WWE video game in SvR 2007.
      The irony was that Big Show weighed more than him yet was still only billed as Super Heavyweight.
      Edit: Andre was the first Ultra Heavyweight in the original SvR

  • @thomascreech1696
    @thomascreech1696 Před rokem +458

    The 'bank-addicted drug robber' line gets me every time 😂

    • @DemonCore618
      @DemonCore618 Před rokem +9

      First time I saw him in AEW I was like "is this the entourage? Surely this guy isn't being hyped up so much. That's a crackhead! "

    • @timothysmith4863
      @timothysmith4863 Před rokem +4

      I actually forgot who the bank addicted did drug robber is

    • @bucks1216
      @bucks1216 Před rokem +12

      @@timothysmith4863 nick gage i think

    • @SuperPeterok
      @SuperPeterok Před rokem

      So he loves to work at banks and rob people of their drugs? Lol

    • @timothysmith4863
      @timothysmith4863 Před rokem +5

      @@bucks1216 Thats right because Gage and Mox go way back.

  • @nathantyler5513
    @nathantyler5513 Před rokem +361

    Giant Gonzalez should definitely be a nomination

    • @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
      @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers Před rokem +46

      definitely worst ring attire ever

    • @NateTheGnat
      @NateTheGnat Před rokem +15

      He was a bad wrestler but had he been handled better he could’ve been a good gimmick Not every day you see an 8 footer.

    • @trentthrift4730
      @trentthrift4730 Před rokem +9

      He's widely regarded as one of the worst giants ever in wrestling. Nobody at that size and with acromegaly has any agility or mobility. Having zero wrestling background or knowledge compounded the issue.

    • @wingerfan1
      @wingerfan1 Před rokem +10

      He would’ve done better with proper training he was literally taken from the basketball court to the wrestling ring.

    • @georgejackson4426
      @georgejackson4426 Před rokem +1

      @@trentthrift4730 watch the grilling with Jim Ross you'll hear how WCW totally dropped the ball. I don't care who you are you can't give someone two weeks of wrestling school and then put him in a program with Ric Flair. At least WWF knew enough to give him a manager.

  • @thelowesttreeshavetops3541
    @thelowesttreeshavetops3541 Před rokem +292

    Ole Anderson wrote in his autobiography that a pro wrestler should have the ability to perform a wrestling exhibition and entertain the audience while doing it. If you focus on the second part of that equation, there are a lot of "worst wrestlers" who have technical ability. And, to many fans, being boring is worse than not being technically sound.

    • @Platform246
      @Platform246 Před rokem +6

      Amen. Church

    • @FishJesus420
      @FishJesus420 Před rokem +25

      Kinda my problem with ftr. In ring they are absolutely incredible but I just can’t get behind their characters (or lack their of). They’ve just never really stood out to me personally beyond making whoever they’re working with look really good

    • @thelowesttreeshavetops3541
      @thelowesttreeshavetops3541 Před rokem +2

      @@FishJesus420 I agree!

    • @jeffamell3501
      @jeffamell3501 Před rokem +4

      In ur opinion hogan is the goat i bet

    • @thelowesttreeshavetops3541
      @thelowesttreeshavetops3541 Před rokem +5

      @@jeffamell3501 I don't do the whole "Who's the GOAT?" thing for pro wrestling. Who do you think is the GOAT?

  • @Bigjizay
    @Bigjizay Před rokem +54

    The Warrior's promos were good and bad at the same time. Bad because they didn't make any sense, but good because this made him look even more like a crazy madman.

    • @kaczok1985
      @kaczok1985 Před 2 měsíci +2

      And then there is his comic book series which is a whole other level of deranged. It even had dictionary entries to better explain the inner workings of the Ultimate Warrior's mind:
      "Destrucity: Tri-fold in its definition, therefore meaning...
      1. The name of the Galaxy in WARRIOR wherein the “Terrain of Testament” lies.
      2. The Living of one’s life in the Way of a Warrior according to a Warrior’s 8 Disciplines. Those are as follows: 1) Physical, 2) Beliefs, 3) Moment of Mastery, 4) Attitude, 5) Commitment, 6) Association, 7)Integrity, 8) Wisdom.
      3: The creating of a truce between one’s Destiny and one’s Reality. Promising to stay true to what one is destined to be, yet accepting what is the now … one’s reality."

    • @jardinepatten
      @jardinepatten Před 2 měsíci

      Drugs are bad.

    • @opaque4742
      @opaque4742 Před 2 měsíci

      Warrior did have charisma and he 'made it', but re: in-ring ability he is in the basement, for sure...bottom 5 all time.

  • @42ndStreetMatthew
    @42ndStreetMatthew Před rokem +66

    "Blob around" is my new favorite term.

    • @timthegem
      @timthegem Před rokem +8

      King Mabel. Enough said.

    • @rickyrosay33977
      @rickyrosay33977 Před rokem +1

      @@timthegem i remember rooting for hbk to win King of the ring 95 my second choice was undertaker didn’t care about anyone else

  • @aesrys
    @aesrys Před 3 měsíci +46

    Worst wrestlers ever = Mount Flushmore :D

  • @Th0rvidTheViking
    @Th0rvidTheViking Před rokem +219

    Nia Jax.
    When their lasting legacy is that they injured a lot of wrestlers and once screaming "My Hole!" during a match, you know that they were truly the drizzling shits.

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 Před rokem +4

      Agreed

    • @jeniffer9248
      @jeniffer9248 Před rokem

      "I injure most girls".

    • @Mudoh415
      @Mudoh415 Před rokem +3

      Was the “My hole” bit a work? I’ve never understood that fiasco.

    • @Th0rvidTheViking
      @Th0rvidTheViking Před rokem +20

      @@Mudoh415 nobody knows man. If it's a work, everyone's too embarrassed to take credit for it, and if it's a shoot, Nia is too embarrassed to admit it.

    • @dennisbowen452
      @dennisbowen452 Před rokem +10

      She's funny because she has a sus farm yet preaches right wing politics which are the same politics that keep Marijuana from being legalized country wide

  • @Sky_Blaze
    @Sky_Blaze Před rokem +76

    When JC said "Marina Shafir..but we don't know her" I choked on tortilla chips lmao

    • @Michael-cz6ob
      @Michael-cz6ob Před rokem +1

      @@leighlowe1069 same

    • @Sky_Blaze
      @Sky_Blaze Před rokem +3

      @@JarodJoseph why tf would I make that up dude?? Seriously I did .. enchilada tostitos dip with tortilla scoops to be specific

    • @Sky_Blaze
      @Sky_Blaze Před rokem +2

      @@Michael-cz6ob y'all are slow then look it up

    • @patrickdornoff2735
      @patrickdornoff2735 Před rokem

      @@leighlowe1069 Roddy Strongs old lady

    • @jamesedmonds7519
      @jamesedmonds7519 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@Sky_BlazeLiar

  • @obsoleteworlds
    @obsoleteworlds Před rokem +70

    Warrior's match vs Hogan at Mania was good, albeit because it was laid out and practiced multiple times. Obviously not a technical masterpiece but one that many young guys could learn from when it comes to psychology and charisma over near killing yourself.

    • @janus78
      @janus78 Před rokem +6

      I believe Pat Patterson was the producer of that masterpiece. I mean he got the Ultimate Warrior to have an actual good match, funny thing that probably was the beginning of the end as that probably was his last good match too, and he had to still defend the title and have matches after that wonder why Ultimate Warrior failed so spectacularly as champion after that, thinking, thinking, thinking...

    • @foleynj86
      @foleynj86 Před rokem +16

      His match with Randy Savage at WrestleMania 7 might be the best match of the night. Excellent storytelling and compelling until the end

    • @exilhamburger4802
      @exilhamburger4802 Před rokem +13

      @@foleynj86 Randy Savage was able to have an excellent match with an Ashtray...

    • @OCB_TV
      @OCB_TV Před rokem +3

      That's a testament to Hogan's greatness as well because last I checked it takes at least 2 to tango in pro wrestling

    • @iTubeYourDadsMinge
      @iTubeYourDadsMinge Před rokem +1

      @@janus78 absolute nonsense and drinking the kool aid. It’s ‘trendy’ to say the warrior absolutely sucked in the ring but the fact is, he was part of a fair few good matches in his time and opponents such as Macho Man and Slaughter never said he was the shits, or took credit for the good match. Neither did Patterson.
      Many in the wrestling business who he didn’t ‘piss off’ personally (and given, he pissed off many, such as Cornie) have never talked bad about his ability to contribute to their matches.
      The real fact remains though that Jim Cornette is perhaps the greatest mind in the history of the wrestling business and who has some of the greatest insights ever, yet sadly now focuses all of his time on pure negativity based on the fact that he did some highly entertaining YouShoot videos back in the day, which gained a lot of traction back then.
      It’s perhaps the biggest tragedy that Jim chose to profit on that first and foremost with this Podcast which seems focused on sh*tting on people, rather than using it as a tool to primarily elevate the people in the wrestling business that he could actually help invaluably.
      With the experience that he has, a small donation of 10% of his energy towards positive and constructive criticism would be far more productive than ‘I will piss on Russo’s grave, I hate Kenny Omega and Warrior was a terrible wrestler’ for the five thousandth time.
      And hence, these negative debates ↑↓
      Well done, Jim 👏

  • @danniles3315
    @danniles3315 Před rokem +13

    "Marina Shafir, but we don't know her!" 🤣🤣

  • @notsteven4809
    @notsteven4809 Před rokem +60

    I’m guessing the artwork is Omos, Big Swole, Moxley & Marina Shafir 😂

    • @Matthew17veeran
      @Matthew17veeran Před rokem +6

      Good guess genius.

    • @Kancerru
      @Kancerru Před rokem +1

      🍪

    • @notsteven4809
      @notsteven4809 Před rokem +18

      @@Matthew17veeran He mad y’all 😂

    • @nixrob6145
      @nixrob6145 Před rokem

      Well the Marina Shafir pic before people said anything I thought it was Alundra Blayze

    • @jeffamell3501
      @jeffamell3501 Před rokem +1

      Swoles hair never looked like that lol i was under the impression this was Lash Legend lol

  • @willkenshin
    @willkenshin Před rokem +90

    In Omos defense, they rushed him to main and didn't let him really develop but he can actually talk, Idk why they don't let him be himself on the mic but Marina was in NXT and has not improved at all. You can literally just look at majority of the AEW talent on Dark for worse wrestlers ever bcuz those are talents that's been in the indies for years doing Indy garbage matches and then go to AEW and gets exposed for being bad

    • @OongTheLastAirbender
      @OongTheLastAirbender Před rokem +15

      In Omos defense...he just sucks

    • @Drollpanther
      @Drollpanther Před rokem +7

      Has nothing to do with rushing him. Hes awful

    • @keithwiggins3131
      @keithwiggins3131 Před rokem +9

      Omos was the new Giant Gonzalez he was no Andre or big show at least they could wrestle.

    • @ADrunkBassist
      @ADrunkBassist Před rokem +3

      What was Omos going to develop into? A case of the crabs?

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 Před rokem +7

      If AEW's promo segments over the past few months taught us anything, it's that everybody shouldn't be allowed to "be themselves" on a mic.

  • @RyanGRyan1985
    @RyanGRyan1985 Před rokem +26

    Without watching, nothing can convince me it's not marina shafir

    • @wilcee238
      @wilcee238 Před rokem +6

      Nia Jax

    • @patinconlon
      @patinconlon Před rokem +4

      you know her... you don't know her you don't know anything about her

  • @TorontoHits
    @TorontoHits Před rokem +24

    Omos isn’t even bad, he’s just big. You can’t expect him to do flips.

    • @1101nz
      @1101nz Před rokem +4

      He's boring and looks like he has no skills. Plenty of big guys who could do a convincing match

    • @maynardperalta3188
      @maynardperalta3188 Před rokem +4

      I can and I do.

    • @Charmywoo
      @Charmywoo Před rokem +1

      @@maynardperalta3188 we need proof 😄

    • @hhhhhhh5614
      @hhhhhhh5614 Před rokem +5

      He is not good though either

    • @rod_da_poet
      @rod_da_poet Před rokem +2

      The IWC wants him to wrestle like a cruiserweight.

  • @IanSane
    @IanSane Před rokem +13

    I think for "worst wrestler" you have to go with a wrestler that was featured on TV, was not a jobber and got pushed, and did not get over. The Ultimate Warrior is a pretty lousy wrestler but he was over. A guy like Giant Gonzalez also got pushed and was terrible but did not get over so he's a better candidate for worst ever. It's like the discussion for worst band ever. Obviously the worst band ever is some crappy high school garage band who were together for two weeks but for the conversation you have to go with a band that was signed to a major label and got radio airplay.

  • @RockTumbler
    @RockTumbler Před rokem +78

    You'll be happy to hear that Moxley is apparently done with GCW

    • @slayerBO2EPC
      @slayerBO2EPC Před rokem +13

      Thank God

    • @MiniLemmy
      @MiniLemmy Před rokem +24

      He’s too busy being an ACTUAL world champ to be a world champ at his hobby promotion

    • @heelturnsface
      @heelturnsface Před rokem +13

      @@MiniLemmy lol it’s AEW, he’s not a real champ

    • @bls8959
      @bls8959 Před rokem +1

      @@MiniLemmy it's fake

    • @benjaminbremer4261
      @benjaminbremer4261 Před rokem +9

      @@heelturnsface none of these champs are real.. it’s not ufc, it’s not boxing, it’s fake. none of these guys “win” a title. guys like you and jim need to get over the fact it’s real. it’s pathetic.

  • @swishbenoit4489
    @swishbenoit4489 Před rokem +30

    That marina Schafer joke was Amazing a real turnbuckle kicker 😭😭😭

  • @dewforpolitics
    @dewforpolitics Před rokem +11

    You don’t know me. You don’t know me. You don’t know ME! - Marina Sharif

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 Před rokem +2

      Morgan Freeman: "Little did she know, they would never truly know her"

  • @QAZ-OMEN
    @QAZ-OMEN Před rokem +28

    I'm looking forward to JC's mission , trying to figure this out. It's gonna make for many good episodes

  • @Sargebri
    @Sargebri Před rokem +12

    George Gulas hands down. Not only was he bad but he killed a territory.

  • @ronniejdio9411
    @ronniejdio9411 Před rokem +20

    Aew dropped the ball by not making marina 316 YOU KNOW ME shirts

    • @jjthecat9692
      @jjthecat9692 Před rokem +7

      "YOU KNOW ME!"
      *Moments later*
      "YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!" (kicks the ropes furiously whilst dressed like the man from delmonte)

    • @adamcraven3427
      @adamcraven3427 Před rokem +3

      You Know Me
      3:16
      You Don't Know Me

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 Před rokem +2

      @@adamcraven3427 I took a picture of a black t-shirt and added you know me in the front and you don't know me on the back. I don't see myself going to an aew show but man I wanna make that shift and wear it to a show

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 Před rokem +1

      @@jjthecat9692 cocaine is a helluva drug

  • @petestepney4875
    @petestepney4875 Před rokem +33

    Eva Marie was the first name that came to mind!

  • @whosregis2000
    @whosregis2000 Před rokem +62

    Give Shafer the mic! What she did was nothing short of amazing.

    • @janus78
      @janus78 Před rokem +3

      I think if someone tries to see her for the first time as soon as her music plays you fall asleep before you would even get to her botching around whatever the hell submission she's trying for about as clunky as dropping tools down the stairs.

    • @whosregis2000
      @whosregis2000 Před rokem +2

      @@janus78 very true, and the more you pay attention to the match the worse it gets.

    • @gaysonmartinocho5262
      @gaysonmartinocho5262 Před 7 měsíci +1

      shes better than bianca botch belair

  • @28098610w
    @28098610w Před rokem +25

    I wouldn't say Moxley's bad , but he has a habit of no selling high impact moves like he was Kane.

    • @thelastmotel
      @thelastmotel Před rokem +6

      That's what makes him a bad wrestler smmfh

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 Před rokem +3

      What makes him worse, to me at least, is in the beginning of AEW, he touted so loud and proudly that they were gonna bring back Pro Wrestling, but his matches legit have no storytelling or psychology to them

  • @williammitchell4417
    @williammitchell4417 Před rokem +11

    George Kadaski comes to mind. When he worked for Verne back in day, he wouldn't know a wrist lock from a wristwatch. But he could bump around the ring like a Slinky

  • @alain99v6
    @alain99v6 Před rokem +6

    Canadian man The Great Antonio was knowned as a very strong man, he wrestle too his most famous match was against the late Inoki who kocked out him after several no-sell moves

  • @danielhudson5186
    @danielhudson5186 Před rokem +74

    Even the most die hard Warrior detractor would have to admit his WrestleMania 6 match with Hogan and especially the retirement match with Savage at WM 7, were good to great.

    • @fishingmule3266
      @fishingmule3266 Před rokem +1

      The one with Savage was probably hands down the most vomit-inducing piece of trash I ever watched in the ring. It made me reconsider watching wrestling altogether. The Hogan one was half-decent, I’ll give you that.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před rokem +14

      Warrior's series with Rude were good as well.

    • @xsoultillerx
      @xsoultillerx Před rokem +3

      i feel like most warrior detractors were either people who were burned by him like jim was or people who didn't agree with his personal beliefs/opinions.

    • @fishingmule3266
      @fishingmule3266 Před rokem +5

      @@xsoultillerx or people who didn’t want to watch five shoulder tackles and clotheslines each per match or the cheap trick of kicking out of everybody’s finisher

    • @xsoultillerx
      @xsoultillerx Před rokem

      @@fishingmule3266 given how alot of top guys in wrestling weren't the ring technicians that fans like to gush about that's kind of a moot point.

  • @footloosehobo5560
    @footloosehobo5560 Před rokem +10

    “The bank addicted drug robber” 😂

  • @poindexterflex3528
    @poindexterflex3528 Před rokem +32

    You'd have to make this specifically to people who've wrestled for a major promotion. Otherwise you can get guys like 'Jumpin' Jeff Farmer and Horace the Psychopath on this list and no one would know who you're talking about.
    Edit: Looking forward on Jim's take about Moxley's contract extension and taking on more of a backstage role as well.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Před rokem +2

      I actually kind of liked Farmer as the bogus sting. lol

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Před rokem +6

      @@maxxdahl6062 Fun fact: "Jumpin" Jeff Farmer and nWo Sting Jeff Farmer are two different people.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Před rokem +1

      @@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Oh okay my bad. lol

    • @johanneazcuy9997
      @johanneazcuy9997 Před rokem +9

      Jumping jeff farmer is a legend! Yep!!

    • @jjthecat9692
      @jjthecat9692 Před rokem

      Speaking of Horaces, Horace Hogan was fucking dreadful too.

  • @mr._muji
    @mr._muji Před rokem +66

    Nick Gage could be the worst wrestler ever to step on AEW, but I wouldn't even consider him a wrestler.

    • @nickonite
      @nickonite Před rokem +15

      Honestly Nick Gage isn't a terrible wrestler. When you watch him wrestle you believe him. Like New Jack, you believe that who they are in the ring is how you would think they would wrestle. Terrible wrestlers are guys like the late Giant Gonzalez, guys like Marko Stunt.

    • @danevertt3210
      @danevertt3210 Před rokem +3

      That new Indian tall guy in AEW should just go away immediately

    • @xxxaragon
      @xxxaragon Před rokem +6

      @@nickonite not sure about that. I mean, let's take New Jack as an example. of course a lot of what he did looked legit ... because he hit people for real (one of the horrific habits a lot of the ECW/hardcore guys have/had).
      but if you ain't working (your punches, chairshots etc.) are you really a "pro wrestler" to begin with? (I mean, isn't the biggest part of that +working+ the blows etc.?)

    • @intelligentfool09
      @intelligentfool09 Před rokem +3

      His passion to give fans extreme is worthy of him being a legend.

    • @GoodMorningJuiceBox
      @GoodMorningJuiceBox Před rokem +1

      @@intelligentfool09i agree. One of my top 10 for me. People seem to just dismiss him because “he is a bank robber drug addict” but there are so many degenerates in pro wresting its crazy. But I don’t really give a shit what people say about him he is an entertainer in the most extreme sense and some people these days just can’t take it.

  • @friendlygiant2314
    @friendlygiant2314 Před rokem +24

    I think if anyone should get nominated for worst wrestler who got any kind of push, it has to be Steve Mongo McMicheals. Seemed like a nice guy, actually not terrible on commentary, played off of Henan nicely, but really was not ready to be in a ring and they went ahead and made him one of the four horsemen.
    A massive push for someone who struggled for 30 seconds in the ring to figure out how to pick someone up for a body slam.

    • @scooobydoo27
      @scooobydoo27 Před rokem +4

      The fact that they tried to add him to the new "Horsemen" was awful.

    • @KingKhanate1997
      @KingKhanate1997 Před rokem +4

      I honestly can’t help but love Mongo. He was the absolute shits in the ring but he always had such an undeniable sort of enthusiasm in everything he did. As if he thought to himself “I have no good goddamn what I’m doing but damn it all will I do it!” You gotta appreciate that at least 😂

    • @xxxaragon
      @xxxaragon Před rokem +1

      @@scooobydoo27 imo he worked as "the muscle". because while not being a giant, he was overall larger than everyone else.

    • @scooobydoo27
      @scooobydoo27 Před rokem +2

      @@xxxaragon That's true that he wouldn't have been able to succeed at all had he not been a big dude. I suppose the same could be said of Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

  • @socialistbatman1211
    @socialistbatman1211 Před rokem +55

    Warrior had a few good matches with great talent. He at least came out like an ultra intense super hero as opposed to just being a big bland guy and knew how to work the crowd.

    • @Sickillj
      @Sickillj Před rokem +9

      Warriors saving grace was his look, his intensity, the face paint , kids loved him and mcmahon pushed him to takeover from hulk. He couldnt wrestle, and didnt give a fck about wrestling. But at the time , fans, especially kids loved the character.

    • @kyledrummond6011
      @kyledrummond6011 Před rokem +6

      Warrior had a few great matches. Don't think he's anywhere near the worst.

    • @christophercomitini8619
      @christophercomitini8619 Před rokem +10

      @@Sickillj No one wanted to see Warrior wrestle. They wanted to see his entrance, his power moves and his intensity. That's like saying fans wanted to see Shaq shoot mid range jumpers and 3's.

    • @drg5352
      @drg5352 Před rokem

      He was carried by insanely capable talent, and sucked more than a $2 hooker when doing anything but being carried. And it took talent on the level of Savage and Flair to give him what amounted to only decent matches. None of his matches qualify as good.

    • @jayharv285
      @jayharv285 Před rokem +9

      @@kyledrummond6011 Warrior had to be carried by much better guys like Savage and Rude

  • @mcw2553
    @mcw2553 Před rokem +19

    HEY, there's a 800lbs human waterbed! 😂

  • @Danny-xm1pe
    @Danny-xm1pe Před rokem +5

    The Ultimate Warrior did have one good match. His match with Savage at Wrestlemania 7 is great!

  • @p.d.l7023
    @p.d.l7023 Před rokem +7

    Even The Mulkeys at least won (accidentally) one match.

  • @LouSassoleSledgecock
    @LouSassoleSledgecock Před rokem +13

    “Looks like a medical school skeleton.” Is the greatest insult Jim’s uttered in the past year.

  • @jjthecat9692
    @jjthecat9692 Před rokem +36

    Van Hammer is one that instantly springs to mind when this topic comes up. He really was the drizzling shits.

    • @ADrunkBassist
      @ADrunkBassist Před rokem +9

      That's "Heavy Metal" Van Hammer to you.

    • @johneschen308
      @johneschen308 Před rokem +5

      Is Van Hammer still alive? I liked him growing up

    • @jjthecat9692
      @jjthecat9692 Před rokem +7

      @@johneschen308 I'm not sure but the dude somehow had a lengthy 8 year career in WCW and did absolutely nothing of note lol.

    • @jayharv285
      @jayharv285 Před rokem +4

      @@jjthecat9692 he had one good match and that was a hardcore match against Cactus Jack and that's it

    • @dustdevil9614
      @dustdevil9614 Před rokem

      No way man

  • @WrestlingDude1998
    @WrestlingDude1998 Před rokem +24

    I thought the middle one looked more like Athena than Big Swole, I was thinking that would’ve been an odd choice

    • @AraksAG
      @AraksAG Před rokem +3

      True I thought they were saying Athena which isn’t true I don’t think Moxley I kinda get all he does is bleed now

    • @jjthecat9692
      @jjthecat9692 Před rokem

      Red Velvet is worse than Swole imo. She is a fucking career ending botch waiting to happen. Swole was safe for the most part but moved like a shopping cart full of bricks.

    • @ADrunkBassist
      @ADrunkBassist Před rokem +5

      Athena is terrible. It's hard to explain why she's just so bad, but watching her work, it feels like she thinks she's 4 or 5 inches taller than she really is. She moves around awkwardly at best and every move misses 5 inches above her opponents heads.

    • @welowee7610
      @welowee7610 Před rokem

      You definitely new here, that picture always used in Big Swole review

    • @WrestlingDude1998
      @WrestlingDude1998 Před rokem

      @@welowee7610 nah, I just don’t remember how they drew big swole, it’s been a while since she has been talked about & I’m sure whenever she was on tv she had shorter hair, to me it just looked more like Athena

  • @Kaos360
    @Kaos360 Před rokem +6

    That Marina Shafir joke got me

  • @Joeybsmooth
    @Joeybsmooth Před rokem +29

    Omos issue is that he is trying not to hurt people.

    • @jaymkuhl
      @jaymkuhl Před rokem

      Also, when your 7'4, you can only carry yourself a certain way in the ring. Khali had the same same problem. He has to work around normal sized wrestlers, not his fault.

    • @ubereats3048
      @ubereats3048 Před rokem

      Omas is worthless.

    • @ubereats3048
      @ubereats3048 Před rokem

      ​@@jaymkuhl Khalil was booked bad

  • @iannnCFC
    @iannnCFC Před rokem +7

    This has gotta be one of the most hilarious moments on this show 😭😭

  • @wiseguy3675
    @wiseguy3675 Před rokem +7

    I liked Warrior's matches with Rude.

  • @Jwjmcc
    @Jwjmcc Před rokem +26

    Warrior had good matches with macho and rude,that shows how good they were

    • @splatterfodderinc
      @splatterfodderinc Před rokem +12

      i agree, even the hogan wm6 was good somehow

    • @Stevenirons
      @Stevenirons Před rokem +2

      @@splatterfodderinc because they spent 2 weeks working on it

    • @vincentgood2234
      @vincentgood2234 Před rokem +3

      It may come down to the dance partner in most cases (Savage and Rick Rude were certainly better partners than most), but Mania 6 vs Hogan and the program with Andre were better than they had any right to be, and neither of those partners were Baryshnikov. Charisma and packaging really can go a long way.

    • @christophercomitini8619
      @christophercomitini8619 Před rokem +1

      @@Stevenirons but it was good, that's what counts.

    • @Stevenirons
      @Stevenirons Před rokem

      @@christophercomitini8619 for sure. It's one of my favorites.

  • @bootneyfarnsworth2844
    @bootneyfarnsworth2844 Před rokem +13

    Is Marko Stunt and Big Swole on this list?

    • @TriplomatX
      @TriplomatX Před rokem

      There's no list, there has to be a detailed reason why the list is called "Worst Wrestlers". These were names Cornette mentioned before as Worst Wrestlers, but he backed down saying Moxley's the worst.

  • @crazypretzel1012
    @crazypretzel1012 Před rokem +9

    Great Khali, Giant Gonzalez, Nathan Jones (physically all 3 of them looked menacing, but that was about it) I'm surprised Jim didn't mention Bobo Brazil. I don't think Jim felt he was good in the ring but I could be wrong. I love the Shafir jokes. I would love for Jim and Bryan to keep reviewing her stuff lol

    • @jamescooper3324
      @jamescooper3324 Před rokem +5

      Khali was actually pretty great in new Japan. We got him post knee surgeries. He used to jump over the top rope

    • @MrJjburgess11
      @MrJjburgess11 Před rokem +4

      Nathan Jones was only in the business a year tops. So its understandable for him not being that great .

    • @ubereats3048
      @ubereats3048 Před rokem

      Khalil in wwe was booked bad and was being super careful after he killed Brian in the ring

  • @dellboy1775
    @dellboy1775 Před rokem +13

    Nia Jax has to be up there

    • @jayharv285
      @jayharv285 Před rokem +4

      Not really. She's hit or miss. It depends on who she's working with. These are people who no matter who they work with they will suck

    • @edophoneix1340
      @edophoneix1340 Před rokem

      Mox doesn't suck bitch. When he worked with punk the match was good.

  • @TerrickTerran
    @TerrickTerran Před rokem +8

    I'll always want to give that award to Fat Gino. Anyone who can do a splash without getting up in the air at all deserves that honor.

  • @patricknoll81
    @patricknoll81 Před rokem +11

    I legit hated Moxley's moveset when he was Dean Ambrose. That STUPID lariat he would do when he would fall through the second rope and slingshot up was infuriating.

    • @pk_1
      @pk_1 Před rokem

      His moveset in the shield was good

    • @JHenkel24
      @JHenkel24 Před rokem +2

      Oh.....you mean the same clothesline that nigel mcguiness did every match? The one kyle o'reilly does and named it after nigel?

    • @patricknoll81
      @patricknoll81 Před rokem

      @@JHenkel24 Maybe. I didn't watch a lot of Nigel's matches. I can't say I have noticed Kyle do it, but I also haven't watched him in a while either.
      It is entirely possible that they just do it better, and it wouldn't bother me with them. With Mox, it was completely unconvincing. If it makes you feel better, I hate the Lethal Injection, too. It makes absolutely no sense.
      Edit: I just looked it up. It was just as ridiculous when Nigel did it. Kyle pulls it off better than the other two, but it still isn't great.

  • @scoh840
    @scoh840 Před 3 měsíci +2

    When I was growing up in Mpls, there was a barefoot wrestler named Hank Meadows. He was so thin and so pale, that he made the Mulkeys look like Hulkster.

  • @kanei8521
    @kanei8521 Před rokem +4

    I’m amazed Jim didn’t mention Linda Miles once in his answer.

  • @jovongarrison974
    @jovongarrison974 Před rokem +21

    Warrior had some very good matches With Hogan, Savage, Rude and Perfect. Two of those matches are considered two greatest Wrestlemania matches of all-time.

    • @gammasmash1924
      @gammasmash1924 Před rokem +4

      I mostly give his opponents credit for that. I will say though, Hogan/Warrior was also Hogan's best match.

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Před rokem +3

      They were also planned out move for move (at least the first two) and rehearsed for months beforehand.
      Actual good wrestlers don't need to do that.

    • @Devypocalypse
      @Devypocalypse Před rokem

      @@gammasmash1924 I'd hardcore disagree with it been Hogans best match, but it's high profile as a Mania main event kind of comes into it I guess too.

    • @jovongarrison974
      @jovongarrison974 Před rokem +1

      @@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma If you know anything about Savage's Matches, he planned alot of his matches.

    • @songkongphooey
      @songkongphooey Před rokem

      Who exactly considers those in the running for greatest WM matches? Biggest drawing maybe, but.....really. Like.....yeah Savage carried Warrior and Rude carried him. But wouldn't you rather watch Savage/Steamboat or Rude/Roberts?

  • @albertstepulevage8217
    @albertstepulevage8217 Před rokem +12

    The David Flair debut in WCW. It literally looked that he had zero training and was just thrown in the ring.

    • @Guy4318
      @Guy4318 Před rokem

      Awful as David Flair was, I still say he seemed prouder to be US Champ more than Hangers was AEW Champ.

    • @fishingmule3266
      @fishingmule3266 Před rokem +1

      I’m pretty sure that was the storyline for David Flair, though. He wasn’t actually supposed to be viewed as a wrestler

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying Před rokem

      But he improved a lot in OVW.

  • @tanaka5395
    @tanaka5395 Před rokem +12

    The Marina Shafir line was too funny 🤣🤣

  • @michaellee8816
    @michaellee8816 Před rokem +11

    Giant Gonzalez, Marina Shafir, Cheex and Lacey Von Botch for me

    • @willkenshin
      @willkenshin Před rokem +1

      I saw a few matches with Lacy Von Erich yesterday on MarkyD's channel and my God was she terrible

    • @kinggambino3698
      @kinggambino3698 Před rokem +1

      giant gonzalez was so ass like how....wasnt he a high level college athlete to?

    • @jayharv285
      @jayharv285 Před rokem

      @@kinggambino3698 he was horrible because his size really hinders him a lot (as a wrestler)

    • @daveborder7751
      @daveborder7751 Před rokem

      Cheex only worked one or two matches didn't he? He is no more a wrestler than David Arquette or Jenna Morasca.

    • @daveborder7751
      @daveborder7751 Před rokem

      @@kinggambino3698 His legs were already shot from Basketball-why Turner switched him from his basketball team to WCW. He had no coordination, his selling/facials were worse than Tugboat's, zero promo skills, no aptitude for wrestling & what made it worse was he looked so skinny-it was pretty much Mike Von Erich if you made him 8 foot tall & even less talented.

  • @micjamfamflippers2191
    @micjamfamflippers2191 Před rokem +4

    He needs to make that list and call it his mount flushmore....

  • @vonVile
    @vonVile Před rokem +2

    Brandy Rhodes is worse than Big Swole by miles.

  • @MyNameIsUnavailable
    @MyNameIsUnavailable Před rokem +7

    As long as WWE Undefined Champion Alicia Fox's funny looking self is on the list, I'm in.

  • @MrMllx
    @MrMllx Před rokem +14

    Warrior didn’t just make millions of dollars. He was iconic and fans still love him, we all have favourite matches, promos and moments

  • @psychobluesfxt
    @psychobluesfxt Před rokem +14

    I wanted to like her but now that she's gone, yeah we're going to have to put Nia Jax in this convo. She hurt SO many people, there was a train of thought that Asuka was just not being used and hanging out in catering but then it was clarified that Nia Jax really did fuck her up THAT bad that she needed nearly a year off to recover.

    • @christophmatthews4313
      @christophmatthews4313 Před rokem +1

      Nia Jax isn’t even close to being in the convo.

    • @TNLable
      @TNLable Před rokem

      At least Nia Jax gave me the best promo in the world which involves her Hole.

  • @whatever20030
    @whatever20030 Před rokem +3

    Will just leave this name here Grado, from impact /the World of wrestling ITV tried to bring back. Only surprise is TK and The Cowamonga kids haven’t signed him to AEW

  • @georgenelson8284
    @georgenelson8284 Před rokem +4

    The Great Khali, Giant Gonzalez, Omos, Nia Jax to name a few

  • @jonathancarlson6127
    @jonathancarlson6127 Před rokem +6

    Ahmed Johnson and Eva Marie come to mind.

    • @TNLable
      @TNLable Před rokem

      Eva Marie maybe

    • @socialistbatman1211
      @socialistbatman1211 Před rokem +3

      Eva Marie is hot so she gets a pass

    • @drml8224
      @drml8224 Před rokem

      Eva Marie worked in 2016 - gets a pass. I would have loved to see her with a title run, would have been more interesting than Liv Morgan.

  • @TheTalk23
    @TheTalk23 Před rokem +3

    Crazy to think that many can easily come up with their own mount rushmore of great wrestlers. But worst wrestlers that are bad. It's tough because their have been so many that have been bad. From all generations.

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 Před rokem

      Plus with so many factors to wrestling, youd really have to think of someone bad at everything

  • @brandontomblin8406
    @brandontomblin8406 Před rokem +2

    I'm really surprised that Jim never thought to mention Pockets.

  • @JW0082
    @JW0082 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Warrior. Kozlov. Khali. Nia Jax. Sandman. Brie Bella. To name a few....

  • @hankfarley2514
    @hankfarley2514 Před rokem +19

    Why jade cargill isn’t ever on a list is beyond me. Bad matches that usually include at least one cringey spot where you wonder how her opponents don’t get hurt.
    Bigger liability than nia Jax.

  • @daveconte9884
    @daveconte9884 Před rokem +5

    The giant Gonzalez have to be pretty high up on the list!😊

    • @barrettokarate
      @barrettokarate Před rokem

      All the giants (except Andre) were: Gonzalez, Silva, Khali.

  • @user-pt7mx5ct2t
    @user-pt7mx5ct2t Před 2 měsíci +1

    1 ultimate warrior
    2 bill Goldberg
    3 great khali
    4 giant conzalez
    5 kevin nash

  • @paulmccartney3959
    @paulmccartney3959 Před rokem +6

    I remember when Big Swole said they were being racist to her just because people criticized her lol

    • @oatz8449
      @oatz8449 Před rokem

      Any thing that there is drama on Twitter big swole just tweets it happily that she is right over aew, I don’t know why she always talks about them she is not even in any other promotions

  • @thorman638
    @thorman638 Před rokem +12

    1. Nyla Rose - complete fuckin abomination
    2. Nick Gage - absolute trash
    3. Luchasourus - botch and injury machine
    4. Omos - can barely move
    5. Luther - need I say more?

  • @chadadams6052
    @chadadams6052 Před rokem +22

    Nia Jax deserves a mention

  • @raydiabolico
    @raydiabolico Před 7 měsíci +2

    Ultimate Warrior, Goldberg, Ryback and New Jack. Mount Rushmore of most unsafe in the Ring.

  • @tomtalker2000
    @tomtalker2000 Před rokem +1

    Oh and i forgot too mention WWE'S "new giant" Omos who makes Great Khali look like The Undertaker.

  • @icalloutshittymusic7396
    @icalloutshittymusic7396 Před rokem +3

    As much as I hate garbage wrestling, Moxley is far from a bad athlete lol

  • @michaelh3583
    @michaelh3583 Před rokem +11

    Moxley and AEW are a match made in heaven though. AEW relies solely on gimmick matches and Moxley loves being in gimmick matches.

    • @darthraider450
      @darthraider450 Před rokem +1

      The problem is AEW uses generic gimmick matches and not gimmick matches that further the storyline cause, and become ultimately irrelevant. Comparing the gimmick matches of AEW to the gimmick matches of Lucha Underground, LU had a ton of gimmick matches yet they all made sense, booked properly and made everyone look like a star in the show.

  • @taker68
    @taker68 Před rokem +2

    How about the worst who ever appeared in the major promotions? That were around for awhile, known by fans. Forget short lived or unknown wresters.

  • @jimhurd3101
    @jimhurd3101 Před rokem +1

    100% true.. only time I know of my dad ever sent to my high school other than graduation was a wresting call out... when found out was the amiture stuff was outa there ..I did grad high in 86 so was around 1983 or so

  • @jaystreet7748
    @jaystreet7748 Před rokem +3

    Jim does a good job explaining why he never gives an answer to this bone anyone sent him a question like this they need to list their criteria so he has the answer to that criteria whether he likes the criteria or not he could just say he doesn’t like it.
    For instance if we’re talking about the best wrestler ever this is my criteria
    The order matters too.
    1. Impact on the business.
    When they were there at their height of popularity and when they left.
    2. The ability to draw.
    Crowd/money
    3. Mic/entertainment skills
    Nobody’s going to see your great wrestling if you can’t get them there
    4. Accomplishments in the business.
    Titles big wins awards etc.
    5. Actual wrestling ability.
    This is last but because you don’t want people putting as like Lance storm or Dean Malenko over people that were superstars in the business because they say “well he can’t wrestle as well”
    When in reality wrestling is an art like any other art acting singing rapping.
    People do that shit with rappers when they talk about “lyrical skills“ and then name some guy that 50% of the people reading the comments never heard of popularity matters in the entertainment business don’t tell me somebody is the most skilled and they never didn’t accomplish a quarter of what the other person did.
    I think that’s a fair list of criteria

  • @kevinr49
    @kevinr49 Před rokem +3

    Nia the whale Jax has to be on that list. Just horrific.

  • @randomfeller
    @randomfeller Před rokem +1

    Corny could make a good living teaching those question evasion tactics to politicians…lol…Some mighty fine juking and jiving there!!

  • @qmh1992
    @qmh1992 Před rokem +2

    putting out a flyer for Don Valentine :D

  • @joeramos4489
    @joeramos4489 Před rokem +5

    Anna Jay should be in the conversation

  • @TslikTheMassacre
    @TslikTheMassacre Před rokem +4

    Out of all the wrestlers to exist, you put Moxley there, no way bro smh🤷‍♂️

  • @jonathanstempleton7864
    @jonathanstempleton7864 Před rokem +1

    The worst wrestler is so dangerous that nobody will work with them.

  • @georgesalgado8642
    @georgesalgado8642 Před rokem +1

    From my time watching wrestling:
    - Giant Gonzales
    - Ultimate Warrior
    - Great Khali
    - Ahmed Johnson

  • @janus78
    @janus78 Před rokem +3

    I like how I know there are a lot of rotten wrestlers who Jim personally hates, but for this question he is legit fair as can be. There are 1000's of wrestlers whose training school was literally their mom's basement, so when being fair worst wrestler is much harder than best wrestler and Jim legit took this seriously. Though I believe other people would mention this Giant Gonzalez is probably as bad as any untrained wrestler ever, he probably makes Jim Helwig look like Buddy Rogers in comparison. I mean Ultimate warrior sucked too, but I think with a lot of these famous bad wrestlers they still had to have something to get them over in spite of how bad they sucked, but the true sucky wrestlers like turds stayed at the bottom of the barrel and only made a tv camera in the audience of shows.

  • @superballsfour20
    @superballsfour20 Před rokem +6

    Giant Gonzalez, Eva Marie, Great Khali, Lacey Von Erich

    • @stevehogan9958
      @stevehogan9958 Před rokem

      I've never seen Lacey wrestle. She was that bad?

    • @PunkRJH90
      @PunkRJH90 Před rokem

      @@stevehogan9958 Yes, she was awful. I also seem to remember someone asked her to study some of her father's matches to understand how to work better, bit she claimed she didn't want to because it upset her.

  • @ModernDayRenaissanceMan
    @ModernDayRenaissanceMan Před 2 měsíci +2

    For me personally - I have to take into consideration who won a Championship; (Overrated basically)
    The Great Khalil
    Bautista
    Satnum Singh
    The Giant Gonzalez
    Omas
    Marina Shafir
    Maxxine Durpi
    Shaka Khan
    Nia Jax
    Lola Vice

  • @heisensaul5538
    @heisensaul5538 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I would think Big Daddy would be in the running. Corny referred to him as an "Outlaw Hulk Hogan" one time.

  • @darthraider450
    @darthraider450 Před rokem +17

    Nia Jax gets my vote

    • @RainmakerXBooty
      @RainmakerXBooty Před rokem

      Tamina is worse

    • @Orithous
      @Orithous Před rokem +1

      @@RainmakerXBooty tie for last? 😂

    • @radentstwo9793
      @radentstwo9793 Před rokem +1

      Eva Marie is worst, that's my pick

    • @radentstwo9793
      @radentstwo9793 Před rokem

      @@RainmakerXBooty So Jimmy Snuka is also then? Tamina's got her ring style from her father.

    • @nickhughes8179
      @nickhughes8179 Před rokem

      ​@@RainmakerXBooty Tamina was stiff and limited especially after the weight gain. Niasaurus Jax hurt everybody she worked with.

  • @MGower4465
    @MGower4465 Před 2 měsíci

    Warror's biggest knock, in my view, is he was about three-quarters gassed when the bell rang just from his entrance. He needed a real slow start to get his breath back to even wrestle more than two or three minutes.

  • @trappenweisseguy27
    @trappenweisseguy27 Před rokem +1

    I remember a jabronie back in the 70’s who was on tv regularly and never got so much as a single punch of offence in named Hutchinson. I think Ron was the first name. Looked like a 160 pound pencil neck geek. But, there were lots of punching bags like him around as all you got on tv was squash matches.

  • @firepenguin38
    @firepenguin38 Před rokem +9

    I know Vince Technicallt wasn't a wrestler, but the time he blew both quads out running to the ring because of a botch

  • @stevenpettit
    @stevenpettit Před rokem +3

    Great Khali has to be on the list

  • @ShaunHopkinsAVFC
    @ShaunHopkinsAVFC Před 3 měsíci +2

    How about Jade Cargill, the female Omos, who’s also only pushed because of their look?

  • @RyanSmith-yu5ln
    @RyanSmith-yu5ln Před rokem +1

    According to Dutch Mantell, George Gulas was pretty damned bad. I mean, really bad.

  • @sgtpecker07
    @sgtpecker07 Před rokem +7

    How he didn’t immediately say Luigi Primo is beyond me.

    • @juniorkhomari1850
      @juniorkhomari1850 Před rokem +4

      He just juggles pizza dough around. How does that make him the worst wrestler ever ?

  • @raiyanamin8914
    @raiyanamin8914 Před rokem +15

    Jon moxley isn't the worst wrestler, he's not the best wrestler. He's A wrestler

    • @jovanss2361
      @jovanss2361 Před rokem +2

      Nah he's the worst lol

    • @RyanGRyan1985
      @RyanGRyan1985 Před rokem +1

      He's an indy mark

    • @jjthecat9692
      @jjthecat9692 Před rokem +1

      I agree with Brian about him in that I don't find him believable whatsoever. Everything with him feels completely forced. I feel the same way about Becky Lynch.

    • @DontKillFriends
      @DontKillFriends Před rokem

      @@jovanss2361 believing this would be to not know anything

    • @DontKillFriends
      @DontKillFriends Před rokem

      @@jjthecat9692 Read his book and you’d get a better sense for who he is. It’s an over the top version of himself it’s not that forced. Becky is great but, we know she’s playing characters.

  • @acehigh79
    @acehigh79 Před rokem +2

    warrior and luger have to be the worst wrestlers that got over. both had to have their opponents carry the match and they couldn't call a match in the ring. neither could cut a promo.