If I went up expecting a return in 8 days, and was later told I would have to stay until February or March of 2025, Boeing and NASA execs had better leave me there because I'd be looking for heads with an axe when I got back on earth.
Don't be that way, consider the number of Lawyers trying to get your attention so they could file lawsuits against Boeing and NASA. Also, consider the number of Lawyers that work for NASA and Boeing.
@@charlesfaure1189 I think that you're right, if it were me sent on an eight-day mission that turned into months I would be SO happy! Time is space is allocated and this is bonus time for the two. And there's always the guest appearances on Talk shows, etc. that will be coming. I also think that NASA will handle the problem ASAP because of the problem of having no empty docking spots.
@@charlesfaure1189I understood that there’s concerns because of their ages-58 and 61-and the fact that long duration mission crews train for a year or two to prepare themselves mentally and physically.
Boeing was taken over by bean counters some time back. That never works in high tech companies. Cutting corners during design & test,, will cost dearly when production starts,😮
@@RalphFreeman-ok5of Sorry but there is very little cutting edge tech (High Tech) in Government contracted items be they planes boats missiles radar systems jeeps computers bombs grenades bullets etc. By the time all the contractual bullshit is complied with the tech is old as hell . Ill give you one example i know from actual experiences. The Audio J Box as its called on the Apache attack helicopter on the original A model was a antiquated piece of electronics that you could get a way more advanced off the shelf replacement from Radio Shack for less than 50 dollars that would be more technically advanced. If i recall correctly the System cost (McDonnell Douglas but was still Hughes Helicopters at this time) on our MRP system was somewhere over 5 thousand dollars for a simple 1/4 inch Phone jack with 2 watt amp ( same as any guitar cord plug jack or input) audio junction Box that allowed the Ground Crew chief to talk with the 2 pilots over their headphones (Intercom) when the bird was turning blades on the tarmac. The stories i could tell ! I know so many unbelievable things i was personally involved with putting that aircraft in production or the very strange things i experienced at Motorola Government Electronics systems. Of course standard procedure was to compartmentalize everything so without what they called “The Need To Know “ you might not know what the real function was of the project you were working everyday on. Imagine you’re working on a an electronic device that doesn’t actually get its real functionality until after its DD250 (Sold) to the Government. Because of the amount of paper work and the way the actual contracts between the Government and the Contractor (Company) are written the costs involved in changing something as simple as an adhesive tape (Scotch Tape) being changed by an ECR (Engineering Change Request) to a slightly different tape might end up costing 100’s of thousands of dollars all because of the documentation (Drawings and purchase orders production plans etc etc). and all the processes and procedures changed to specify off the shelf actual Scotch Tape instead of a custom adhesive coated material similar to regular old tape. This one i was involved in and thats when i understood completely the 500 Dollar hammer that at the time was about 5 dollars at any hardware stores. Government Contractors are the Military Industrial Complex. This is who actually benefits the most out of all the Billions of dollars we supply Ukraine or Israel with. Im almost 70 and i have come to understand all my once great country has become is one of the biggest Arms dealers in the world. Everything in the world is centered around selling financing and creating the situations that always end up being solved by our Government selling or giving away Military hardware. Either way these companies get paid sometimes by both sides of a dispute, it would not surprise me at all if Putin and Biden Administrations created their needs (this current conflict) for the benefit of their respective industries. This is almost done in the open these days. Like i said before if i could tell just what I’ve experienced in my work it would amaze you. Ive actually held a Nuclear artillery shell in my hands because the company i worked for made the timing fuse for it and this was a dummy round for a dog and pony show at the pentagon. Anyway can you believe at one time possible still both the USA and Russia had plans for limited nuclear war in Europe using such devices ? What do you think would happen if one side was losing such a war ? Before they would lose completely wouldn’t they bring out the big boys ? Of course they would and that would be the end of it all !
Got rid of the engineers, loaded up on accountants. Their planes may splatter people all over the ground, but the spreadsheets balance to a penny. At least until they go bankrupt, then the accountants will go on to improve another company's bottom line. For a while.
In my opinion not enough testing was done, especially orbital testing or surely they would have found these issues before putting a human crew aboard. Probably trying to cut costs or catch up to SpaceX.
Sadly, Boeing bought the world's largest implementer of thrusters, Hughes Space and Communications, in the year 2000. They are the free world's largest design and manufacture house for satellites. I'm sure their expertise would have been more than useful.
What is sad is how executives continue to get big bonuses while the people who turn wrenches get laid off. The average employee cares about their work i worked in this industry but never turned a wrench or made the company a profit as i was overhead . When you don’t freeze engineering and go into production then the engineers never stop and the company loses money.
The problem is, they can't "freeze" the design of Starliner, because they can't make it reliable. Elon is running into the same problems with Starship. SpaceX will never stop redesigning it because they will never be able to make it work properly. The basic design is fatally flawed. So far Elon has the money to do that. Boeing and NASA don't have that luxury.
That is the problem,100 million dollar homes selling at highest rates ever, while people burn to death from trying to stay plastic in their tents! That happened 3 times in my town philly, were making fake bio weapons and taking apart great companies to profit a minimal group of selfish men
Boeing's problem is that management has been taken over by accountants. I've worked for a number of technology companies in my career that were started by engineers and later managed by accountants. None of them exist anymore. Firing one 40-something engineer with 20-plus years of job experience and replacing him with a couple of cheap 20-somethings fresh out of school doesn't work so good, even though it might look nice on the ledger at first.
@@Milosz_Ostrow I agree about the young fresh out of school inexpensive inexperienced engineers. I sat on the Engineering change board for a large aerospace company and had actual experience with some of these hotshot young engineers. I had several instances where a inexperienced engineer would call out a chemical iridite on a piece of Kevlar and a few other brilliant ideas .
Leave it all to the Chinese experts. This is their century, just sit back and marvel at their capability and determination, not just to succeed, but to excell.
@@burt3907Not a good idea to entirely bank on another countries capabilities. Imagine post 2022 and SpaceX not being a thing. The entire western world would still be dependent on russian Sojuz to get to the ISS.
Seems a new culture of Assume emerged. Assume that software on 737 Max works safely, Assume that the helium seals will not leak, Assume the undocking software can work automatically or unnecessary, Assume that all the problems were resolved despite numerous problems before the flight and Assume that these were all already resolved. When will air, food and water run out? Assume again?
Thanks to new age garbage like assume everything will be fine went to these techies heads and i stead of finding solutions they stuck to utter esoteric shit😂 that mite work in mountain s but not at iss😂😂😂😂
starliner space suits arent compatible with dragon. They would either have to bring spare dragon suits or bring them back with no suits, which is possible but if there was to be a loss of cabin pressure/o2, guess which two would probably perish? Lots more to it than just "bring them home on dragon".
@@wingtipsworld5909 Send up a Dragon with spare suits. Undock the current dragon, bring them back on the dragon with the spares, and re-dock the current dragon.
Seeing the interior controls of that Star liner (Apollo remake) is like looking into a museum piece. The control panel...with hundreds of switches...archaic. NASA paid for this 'step back' technology? ( I'm just glad the astronauts actually got to the ISS in this thing.)
call me silly but didn't the auto pilot fail during the initial docking? did they get this fixed or not?? if not, then you have thruster problems and auto pilot problems. what could possibly go wrong with these issues being problematic.
It gets worse. Remember the first two uncrewed flights? They came back with problems, and Boeing 'fixed' things so "There has to be a crew on board now to return". Granted, normally you don't leave a ship/horse mid-flight/stream, but interesting things happen and we now have a mess. If Boeing can roll back the software is one issue, the bad thrusters are the other. Even if it can undock by itself, still does not mean the thrusters will work well enough and long enough to deorbit. If the crew undocks and the thrusters fail before getting past the deorbit burn...
Send the piece of junk back without the crew. Then if the thrusters malfunction, then it can skip off the atmosphere or crash in the ocean. No harm done. If you put two people in the damn thing and something happens, then you have doomed them. So launch schedules have to be reworked, so what? Get them back safely.
It was said by Boeing the craft was fully automated, the crew could take over if they wanted or needed, but it was not required. They have since said the problem now is the craft cannot be undocked without being manned, they cannot undock and then exit and return to the spacestation as the suits/tethers cannot work, now Elon has seemed to support Trump the administration has blocked anymore launches for various reasons, can they fix the issues to remote undock, who really knows.
I’m guessing a lot of uncontrolled hair could interfere with delicate equipment and may float around and be inhaled or get into the mouths of the personell in the ISS.
What do you get when you cross Lost in Space with Gilligan's Island? A joke about Boeing Starliner's first crewed mission.. "Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale a tale of a fateful trip, that started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny ship. The mate was a mighty astronaut, the Skipper brave and sure..."
This is a perfect example of the Boeing of late. It's all about money at the expense of the mission. A fully comprehensive quality program should have identified the issue it is now seeing. Who's to say it did not identify the issue but Boeing failed to report it.
I don't know why NASA even needs Boeing. Why do they even have the 2 provider Ideology beats the heck out of me. We only had One Apollo and One Space Shuttle development system after all.
Sierra Space may have their shuttle crew certified by around 2026 if things go well. It looks like Starliner will be at least that same date getting their problems worked out. Hopefully at least one of the two would be operational so that NASA would have their backup system.
It's corporate welfare for the legacy defense contractors. Look up the amount of money they give to our elected officials. These contracts are payback. They only get them because those elected officials demand it.
Couldn't Russia bring them back any day in one of it's space balls docked there? They would be ashamed to be saved by Russia I guess. "Poor America needs us to save them" haahaa!
@@barracuda7018 Ummmm Boeing and NASA are stuck on ISS not Russia. Boeing is at risk of destroying ISS with it's broken machine from hell when it tries to undock. Russia delivered 1,000's of pounds of food to the helpless Americas just yesterday to save their lives with it's ships that actually work. Russia systematically is destroying Ukraine for refusing to keep NATO war machine off it's border. Ukraine needs to save itself before the election or there won't be a Ukraine to save.
I Knew it was a Huge Mistake to send them in that Thing. They should have sent up some SpaceX Space Suits on the Last Cygnus so they could return in a Dragon Alive....
Next time, if they don't want to trouble shoot critical systems while in low earth orbit, then after they decide to send up starliner, send up the engineers in the critical systems with it. Bet those critical systems work flawlessly. If not?. The next engineers should be able to get it right.
Guess they will wait for Starship to free up the docking port occupied by Starliner and use Starliner as seismographic test by crashing it into the moon.
Boeing and NASA need to cut their losses. Undock that multi-ton paperweight and send it towards the Sun. Meanwhile, call Elon and have him set up a recovery mission to get the two astronauts home.
So this did not go well but they are ok. So I'd like to pose another question. The capsule Boeing made is unsafe for re-entry. Just no questions asked go use SpaceX to get them period. Leave the Boeing capsule there, or as mentioned when the people are back on earth, autopilot the Starliner back to earth with nobody inside.
They seem concerned with saving Starliner, and fretting on the re-entry controls. Let it fail, if that is what the poor design produces. Gemini, Apollo, Shuttle had good thrusters, now all of a sudden, they don't work. Maybe failing to keep 'the old guard' engineers that knew how to do things, and hiring fresh from college engineers that were a lot cheaper was their answer.
Just sit right back, and you’ll hear of another B**ing fail. That blasted off from a spaceport on a roaring flaming tail. The commander's a seasoned spacing man. The pilot brave and sure. They launched to the ISS for just a week long tour… A week long tour… The docking was kinda rough, And the capsule started leaking stuff... If not for the prowess off this top-notch crew, The mission would be scrubbed. The mission would be scrubbed. The capsule’s still docked at the ISS. For how long is still unknown, and time is running out for the deorbit burn. The engineers are still figuring out the astronauts' safe return. Will the astronauts ride home someday this year or maybe next? Will they be aboard the Starliner or a capsule from SpaceX?
Update August 24 2024: In order to ensure crew safety, NASA determined that the astronauts will be returning home in Dragon, probably sometime in February, 2025.
How is this a "test" flight? A "test" is where you do something to exercise a new device, but without committing valuable resources. Like people. The only way this would be a "test" is if they had a backup ready to go.
You guys missed that the Starliner Capsule tour that Butch and Sonny gave showed Boeing's Starship pilot control panels, were covered all over with archaic, Mercury-Era, toggle-style flip switches, that have internal, mechanical, electrical contacts that internally, "will" "spark-plug-like" arc inherently whenever they are flipped or switched over, during pilot's flight use, present many, many volatile gas ignition hazards! Has this new generation of NASA leaders and engineers completely forgotten the lessons the sacrifice of the three Apollo One Astronauts deaths taught them all? Apollo One Astronauts died when a spark underneath a pilot's seat ignited pure oxygen that NASA "STUPIDLY" filled their capsule with! SpaceX touchscreens activate "sparkless" solid state relays. You heard of the Airforce paying $400 of taxpayer dollars for plane toilet seats. Here NASA is paying Boeing $Millions for 60-year-old Mercury Capsule technology. Boeing is full of cheapest way thieves, and NASA bureaucratic imbeciles!
I cant stand this artificial intelligence narration. Why dont you use a real voice? You absolutely ruined your own credibility, why would anybody watch this video if you can't be bothered to use a real actual person's voice. And it's not like there are people that are desperate for the work is it now?
Given that there is nothing new about transporting astronauts to and from the space station, I cannot understand why existing relatively reliable means are not being used in favour of something new which has obviously not been sufficiently tested. New is fine - as long as it has been exhaustively tested. Of couse simulations can go only so far before reality gives hard answers but leaks??
Give Boeing workers training to know what is what or go away for another JOB..and Cut ..yes Cut to so called top executives a 50 % pay Cut till this company show their ship can do the job they were made for..IF NOT CANCELL THEIR CONTRACT. ITS NOT THAT HARD.. NO SPACE SHIP NO CONTRACT. ..HELLO PEOPLE
Everyone was aware of boeing quality including the drivers so we cant sympathies with anyone.. They all have taken this mission with ample data and facts
Sad how, by relentless corner-cutting, Boeing has malfunctioned it own way from world leader to disasterous also-ran. Instead of focusing on what made the people proud of them, they focused, instead, on covering up and excuse making, with not a few lies into the bargain.. From 'if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going' to 'if it's Boeing, I ain't going' Sad - and all the while the execs took ever higher 'compensation' - more, in fact, than the victims who lost their lives and/or loved ones...
I say this respectfully, sorry ive been lied to too much, id them makimg us excited agsin by showing us how dangerous it is? I hope thats right , but i doubt it, what th aircfaft that is carry underneath a bomber? Parasite aircraft maybe? I forget the term
I will never fly on a Boeing within the atmosphere let alone trust them in the exosphere 🤣I don’t like Elon, but I most certainly am amazed by the thing’s he creates! He is no TESLA even if he makes the vehicles with that name, but Damn, he is amazing! 👍🏿😎
NASA and U.S. left the Astronauts in Space . U.S. Government Administration Politicians Policies makers left their American Citizens to dwell in street tent house 😂 with no paycheck medicare ,meals . The government Administration and policies makers fled now .
@@johnb4183 Why when Tesla is the biggest EV manufacturer was ignored by the Whitehouse, they invited all other EV car manufacturers and made bold claims, but ignored Tesla, in a net-zero world why ignore him when he has done more innovation for EV vehicles.
You can always count on NASA and Boeing to tell the truth! Right? Right????
If I went up expecting a return in 8 days, and was later told I would have to stay until February or March of 2025, Boeing and NASA execs had better leave me there because I'd be looking for heads with an axe when I got back on earth.
Don't be that way, consider the number of Lawyers trying to get your attention so they could file lawsuits against Boeing and NASA.
Also, consider the number of Lawyers that work for NASA and Boeing.
The two astronauts are having the time of their lives. This is a bonus for them.
@@charlesfaure1189 I think that you're right, if it were me sent on an eight-day mission that turned into months I would be SO happy! Time is space is allocated and this is bonus time for the two. And there's always the guest appearances on Talk shows, etc. that will be coming. I also think that NASA will handle the problem ASAP because of the problem of having no empty docking spots.
@@charlesfaure1189I understood that there’s concerns because of their ages-58 and 61-and the fact that long duration mission crews train for a year or two to prepare themselves mentally and physically.
If they need help with their post-trip axe activity, let me know, as I'd be more than happy to help them.
Looks to me like Boeing has crapped out, pathetic excuse for an aerospace company!!!!!!
DEI is more important than results.
Boeing was taken over by bean counters some time back. That never works in high tech companies. Cutting corners during design & test,, will cost dearly when production starts,😮
@@majikalbushe Wanker. I guess you don't trust female pilots either.
@@RalphFreeman-ok5of Sorry but there is very little cutting edge tech (High Tech) in Government contracted items be they planes boats missiles radar systems jeeps computers bombs grenades bullets etc. By the time all the contractual bullshit is complied with the tech is old as hell . Ill give you one example i know from actual experiences. The Audio J Box as its called on the Apache attack helicopter on the original A model was a antiquated piece of electronics that you could get a way more advanced off the shelf replacement from Radio Shack for less than 50 dollars that would be more technically advanced. If i recall correctly the System cost (McDonnell Douglas but was still Hughes Helicopters at this time) on our MRP system was somewhere over 5 thousand dollars for a simple 1/4 inch Phone jack with 2 watt amp ( same as any guitar cord plug jack or input) audio junction Box that allowed the Ground Crew chief to talk with the 2 pilots over their headphones (Intercom) when the bird was turning blades on the tarmac. The stories i could tell ! I know so many unbelievable things i was personally involved with putting that aircraft in production or the very strange things i experienced at Motorola Government Electronics systems. Of course standard procedure was to compartmentalize everything so without what they called “The Need To Know “ you might not know what the real function was of the project you were working everyday on. Imagine you’re working on a an electronic device that doesn’t actually get its real functionality until after its DD250 (Sold) to the Government. Because of the amount of paper work and the way the actual contracts between the Government and the Contractor (Company) are written the costs involved in changing something as simple as an adhesive tape (Scotch Tape) being changed by an ECR (Engineering Change Request) to a slightly different tape might end up costing 100’s of thousands of dollars all because of the documentation (Drawings and purchase orders production plans etc etc). and all the processes and procedures changed to specify off the shelf actual Scotch Tape instead of a custom adhesive coated material similar to regular old tape. This one i was involved in and thats when i understood completely the 500 Dollar hammer that at the time was about 5 dollars at any hardware stores. Government Contractors are the Military Industrial Complex. This is who actually benefits the most out of all the Billions of dollars we supply Ukraine or Israel with. Im almost 70 and i have come to understand all my once great country has become is one of the biggest Arms dealers in the world. Everything in the world is centered around selling financing and creating the situations that always end up being solved by our Government selling or giving away Military hardware. Either way these companies get paid sometimes by both sides of a dispute, it would not surprise me at all if Putin and Biden Administrations created their needs (this current conflict) for the benefit of their respective industries. This is almost done in the open these days. Like i said before if i could tell just what I’ve experienced in my work it would amaze you. Ive actually held a Nuclear artillery shell in my hands because the company i worked for made the timing fuse for it and this was a dummy round for a dog and pony show at the pentagon. Anyway can you believe at one time possible still both the USA and Russia had plans for limited nuclear war in Europe using such devices ? What do you think would happen if one side was losing such a war ? Before they would lose completely wouldn’t they bring out the big boys ? Of course they would and that would be the end of it all !
Got rid of the engineers, loaded up on accountants. Their planes may splatter people all over the ground, but the spreadsheets balance to a penny. At least until they go bankrupt, then the accountants will go on to improve another company's bottom line. For a while.
In my opinion not enough testing was done, especially orbital testing or surely they would have found these issues before putting a human crew aboard. Probably trying to cut costs or catch up to SpaceX.
Sadly, Boeing bought the world's largest implementer of thrusters, Hughes Space and Communications, in the year 2000. They are the free world's largest design and manufacture house for satellites. I'm sure their expertise would have been more than useful.
Yeah, probably trying to catch Space X, Boeing is so far behind Space X it is Tangible.
What is sad is how executives continue to get big bonuses while the people who turn wrenches get laid off. The average employee cares about their work i worked in this industry but never turned a wrench or made the company a profit as i was overhead . When you don’t freeze engineering and go into production then the engineers never stop and the company loses money.
I know, I worked for one of the big ones.
The problem is, they can't "freeze" the design of Starliner, because they can't make it reliable. Elon is running into the same problems with Starship. SpaceX will never stop redesigning it because they will never be able to make it work properly. The basic design is fatally flawed. So far Elon has the money to do that. Boeing and NASA don't have that luxury.
That is the problem,100 million dollar homes selling at highest rates ever, while people burn to death from trying to stay plastic in their tents! That happened 3 times in my town philly, were making fake bio weapons and taking apart great companies to profit a minimal group of selfish men
Boeing's problem is that management has been taken over by accountants. I've worked for a number of technology companies in my career that were started by engineers and later managed by accountants. None of them exist anymore. Firing one 40-something engineer with 20-plus years of job experience and replacing him with a couple of cheap 20-somethings fresh out of school doesn't work so good, even though it might look nice on the ledger at first.
@@Milosz_Ostrow I agree about the young fresh out of school inexpensive inexperienced engineers. I sat on the Engineering change board for a large aerospace company and had actual experience with some of these hotshot young engineers. I had several instances where a inexperienced engineer would call out a chemical iridite on a piece of Kevlar and a few other brilliant ideas .
I never want to go to space… ever. Godspeed to these 2 brave astronauts
Boeing can't build a workable airplane. Who are they trying to kid building a space craft?!!
Leave it all to the Chinese experts. This is their century, just sit back and marvel at their capability and determination, not just to succeed, but to excell.
@@burt3907Not a good idea to entirely bank on another countries capabilities. Imagine post 2022 and SpaceX not being a thing. The entire western world would still be dependent on russian Sojuz to get to the ISS.
Seems a new culture of Assume emerged. Assume that software on 737 Max works safely, Assume that the helium seals will not leak, Assume the undocking software can work automatically or unnecessary, Assume that all the problems were resolved despite numerous problems before the flight and Assume that these were all already resolved.
When will air, food and water run out? Assume again?
As per the lady.. We have good feel in the heart.. We trust naas😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks to new age garbage like assume everything will be fine went to these techies heads and i stead of finding solutions they stuck to utter esoteric shit😂 that mite work in mountain s but not at iss😂😂😂😂
Why does the Gilligan's Island theme song keep playing in my head: "A three hour tour, a three hour tour..."
Easy decision. Crew safety comes first. Ride home on Dragon. Autonomous return of Starliner and if it dies, it dies, but the crew lives.
Bring them home with Dragon!
starliner space suits arent compatible with dragon. They would either have to bring spare dragon suits or bring them back with no suits, which is possible but if there was to be a loss of cabin pressure/o2, guess which two would probably perish? Lots more to it than just "bring them home on dragon".
@@wingtipsworld5909 Send up a Dragon with spare suits. Undock the current dragon, bring them back on the dragon with the spares, and re-dock the current dragon.
@@pobembe1958 "undock the current dragon"??? There is no dragon currently docked, its Starliner
Seeing the interior controls of that Star liner (Apollo remake)
is like looking into a museum piece.
The control panel...with hundreds of switches...archaic.
NASA paid for this 'step back' technology?
( I'm just glad the astronauts actually got to the ISS in this thing.)
I would be willing to say, it is NOT certified.
NASA plans to send them cheesy movies, the worst they can find. They'll have to sit and watch them all, as they monitor their mind...
If you know, you know.
Gilligan's Island reruns
Sounds like Mystery Theater 3000
call me silly but didn't the auto pilot fail during the initial docking? did they get this fixed or not?? if not, then you have thruster problems and auto pilot problems. what could possibly go wrong with these issues being problematic.
It gets worse. Remember the first two uncrewed flights? They came back with problems, and Boeing 'fixed' things so "There has to be a crew on board now to return". Granted, normally you don't leave a ship/horse mid-flight/stream, but interesting things happen and we now have a mess. If Boeing can roll back the software is one issue, the bad thrusters are the other. Even if it can undock by itself, still does not mean the thrusters will work well enough and long enough to deorbit. If the crew undocks and the thrusters fail before getting past the deorbit burn...
Send the piece of junk back without the crew. Then if the thrusters malfunction, then it can skip off the atmosphere or crash in the ocean. No harm done. If you put two people in the damn thing and something happens, then you have doomed them. So launch schedules have to be reworked, so what? Get them back safely.
It was said by Boeing the craft was fully automated, the crew could take over if they wanted or needed, but it was not required. They have since said the problem now is the craft cannot be undocked without being manned, they cannot undock and then exit and return to the spacestation as the suits/tethers cannot work, now Elon has seemed to support Trump the administration has blocked anymore launches for various reasons, can they fix the issues to remote undock, who really knows.
And Do it Soon, they have been trapped up there too Long.
I’m surprised they put a 58 year old and a 61 year old into space at all!
ok we now all can pretty much guess your IQ
i guess hair ties dont work up there
Boeing Tech either
Maybe they used the hairties to hold the helium valves from dumping.
We all know they are in low gravity but please control that hair?
I’m guessing a lot of uncontrolled hair could interfere with delicate equipment and may float around and be inhaled or get into the mouths of the personell in the ISS.
I can never understand why any astronaut goes into space with long hair.
What do you get when you cross Lost in Space with Gilligan's Island? A joke about Boeing Starliner's first crewed mission..
"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale a tale of a fateful trip, that started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny ship. The mate was a mighty astronaut, the Skipper brave and sure..."
Clever analogies.
The video voice sounds like something from Mission Impossible.
This is a perfect example of the Boeing of late. It's all about money at the expense of the mission. A fully comprehensive quality program should have identified the issue it is now seeing. Who's to say it did not identify the issue but Boeing failed to report it.
Elon Musk disagrees - he says it's about DEI
Not enough proper engineers, too many button counters.
@@fum00A - What is DEI?
Inquiring minds want to know. :)
I don't know why NASA even needs Boeing. Why do they even have the 2 provider Ideology beats the heck out of me. We only had One Apollo and One Space Shuttle development system after all.
Sierra Space may have their shuttle crew certified by around 2026 if things go well. It looks like Starliner will be at least that same date getting their problems worked out. Hopefully at least one of the two would be operational so that NASA would have their backup system.
It's corporate welfare for the legacy defense contractors. Look up the amount of money they give to our elected officials. These contracts are payback. They only get them because those elected officials demand it.
Couldn't Russia bring them back any day in one of it's space balls docked there? They would be ashamed to be saved by Russia I guess. "Poor America needs us to save them" haahaa!
Russia is waiting for Donald Trump to save them from Ukraine...😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@barracuda7018 Ummmm Boeing and NASA are stuck on ISS not Russia. Boeing is at risk of destroying ISS with it's broken machine from hell when it tries to undock. Russia delivered 1,000's of pounds of food to the helpless Americas just yesterday to save their lives with it's ships that actually work. Russia systematically is destroying Ukraine for refusing to keep NATO war machine off it's border. Ukraine needs to save itself before the election or there won't be a Ukraine to save.
It's a great example of later stage socialist capitalism. Using the people's money to support a bloated beaucracy.
That's funny.
@@franktbone Actually it’s tragic.
Put all their engineering into planes, let others do space.
Put all their engineering into toilet flushing, as they're all full of sh_t.
boeing should exit the space category and focus on making airplanes !!
Airplanes that DON'T fall apart in the Air.
@@scottcarr3264or have Battery fires - 787 Dreamliner.🤦
I Knew it was a Huge Mistake to send them in that Thing. They should have sent up some SpaceX Space Suits on the Last Cygnus so they could return in a Dragon Alive....
Si...looks Clunky
@@John-vz5un it looks like it's held together with Bondo, epoxy, duct tape and chicken wire!
The Whistleblowers at Boeing tell you all you need to understand this outcome.
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
a tale of a fateful trip.
That started from this tropic port,
aboard this tiny ship.
this video title says it all.
Next time, if they don't want to trouble shoot critical systems while in low earth orbit, then after they decide to send up starliner, send up the engineers in the critical systems with it. Bet those critical systems work flawlessly. If not?. The next engineers should be able to get it right.
Guess they will wait for Starship to free up the docking port occupied by Starliner and use Starliner as seismographic test by crashing it into the moon.
Who at NASA is collecting money from Boeing??
Isn't it cold in space, that has to be hard on the starliner
Boeing and NASA need to cut their losses. Undock that multi-ton paperweight and send it towards the Sun. Meanwhile, call Elon and have him set up a recovery mission to get the two astronauts home.
Clickbait. Nothing new here.
Let Dragon and SpaceX...take the wheel..
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So this did not go well but they are ok. So I'd like to pose another question. The capsule Boeing made is unsafe for re-entry. Just no questions asked go use SpaceX to get them period. Leave the Boeing capsule there, or as mentioned when the people are back on earth, autopilot the Starliner back to earth with nobody inside.
Oh how things seemed ever so simpler with the Space Shuttle!!!!
Shame about the seals.
Bring her home so she can get a haircut,
She can't afford a hair tie?
Every photo...she could get that thing stuck in some equipment. Safety & fashion hazard.
That's not kind! How would you like to be away from your family so long?
That hair is a critical part of her halloween costume.
She planned this from the very beginning.
They seem concerned with saving Starliner, and fretting on the re-entry controls. Let it fail, if that is what the poor design produces. Gemini, Apollo, Shuttle had good thrusters, now all of a sudden, they don't work. Maybe failing to keep 'the old guard' engineers that knew how to do things, and hiring fresh from college engineers that were a lot cheaper was their answer.
Just sit right back, and you’ll hear of another B**ing fail.
That blasted off from a spaceport on a roaring flaming tail.
The commander's a seasoned spacing man.
The pilot brave and sure.
They launched to the ISS
for just a week long tour…
A week long tour…
The docking was kinda rough,
And the capsule started leaking stuff...
If not for the prowess off this top-notch crew,
The mission would be scrubbed.
The mission would be scrubbed.
The capsule’s still docked at the ISS.
For how long is still unknown, and time is running out for the deorbit burn.
The engineers are still figuring out the astronauts' safe return.
Will the astronauts ride home someday this year or maybe next?
Will they be aboard the Starliner or a capsule from SpaceX?
Speaking of lies, the title is full of them.
1. We want our money back. 2. We want our people back. 3. If 1 and 2 aren't happening some, get these people some clean underwear and socks.
I would be leary of flying on a Boeing aircraft. I would not go on a Boeing spaceraft, if you paid me to.
It’s like Gilligan’s Island.
It will be interesting to see how they'll jettison an unmanned Starliner from the ISS and de-orbit this piece of space junk with no thrusters working.
Update August 24 2024:
In order to ensure crew safety, NASA determined that the astronauts will be returning home in Dragon, probably sometime in February, 2025.
Can't wait till we get back to the moon in 2037 🙄
How is this a "test" flight? A "test" is where you do something to exercise a new device, but without committing valuable resources. Like people. The only way this would be a "test" is if they had a backup ready to go.
Well, we are used to their narratives: 'Never A Straight Answer' !
This video could have been made by Kamla Hariss, saying the same thing in different ways!
Boeing is DONE, smile as you go under.
Butch and Sunni are effectively enjoying the most expensive vacation in living history.
She's already got vision problems😢 but not to wroory sshe said she has good feeling in the heart😊
You guys missed that the Starliner Capsule tour that Butch and Sonny gave showed Boeing's Starship pilot control panels, were covered all over with archaic, Mercury-Era, toggle-style flip switches, that have internal, mechanical, electrical contacts that internally, "will" "spark-plug-like" arc inherently whenever they are flipped or switched over, during pilot's flight use, present many, many volatile gas ignition hazards!
Has this new generation of NASA leaders and engineers completely forgotten the lessons the sacrifice of the three Apollo One Astronauts deaths taught them all? Apollo One Astronauts died when a spark underneath a pilot's seat ignited pure oxygen that NASA "STUPIDLY" filled their capsule with!
SpaceX touchscreens activate "sparkless" solid state relays. You heard of the Airforce paying $400 of taxpayer dollars for plane toilet seats. Here NASA is paying Boeing $Millions for 60-year-old Mercury Capsule technology. Boeing is full of cheapest way thieves, and NASA bureaucratic imbeciles!
We should probably dissolve Boeing at this point.
It was a valve made in India that replaced the ones made in China that caused this problem 😢
Prayers
was Stockton Rush involved with this project?
Why not ask the Chinese to help bring them back? Their Tiangong Space station should have an standby return earth Capsule with 3 seats.
Click bait just a rehash of what we already know.
Sort of sounds like the S.S. Minnow's 3 hour tour.
I cant stand this artificial intelligence narration. Why dont you use a real voice? You absolutely ruined your own credibility, why would anybody watch this video if you can't be bothered to use a real actual person's voice. And it's not like there are people that are desperate for the work is it now?
I cannot believe the state of her hair and that she hasn’t cut it.
Given that there is nothing new about transporting astronauts to and from the space station, I cannot understand why existing relatively reliable means are not being used in favour of something new which has obviously not been sufficiently tested. New is fine - as long as it has been exhaustively tested. Of couse simulations can go only so far before reality gives hard answers but leaks??
WTF is that shot of the sun rising from the North over Europe?? In a serious space video? LMAO.
The movie idiocracy has come true
Look up the song, "Wide, Wide River," by the Fugs......
Give Boeing workers training to know what is what or go away for another JOB..and Cut ..yes Cut to so called top executives a 50 % pay Cut till this company show their ship can do the job they were made for..IF NOT CANCELL THEIR CONTRACT. ITS NOT THAT HARD.. NO SPACE SHIP NO CONTRACT. ..HELLO PEOPLE
Real live lost in space
How are those DEI hires working out Boeing ?
Heard abt some whistleblowing was done by one of the drivers 😮
Nope nope nope.
The helium leak is not unexpected. Helium is a super fluid in space and will seep through any material known.
Everyone was aware of boeing quality including the drivers so we cant sympathies with anyone.. They all have taken this mission with ample data and facts
They must need more money that’s why they’re doing this
Ask Russians politely for help, who knows may be they would bring them back to the Earth.
Boeing…. Where shareholders are more valuable than safety.
Sad how, by relentless corner-cutting, Boeing has malfunctioned it own way from world leader to disasterous also-ran. Instead of focusing on what made the people proud of them, they focused, instead, on covering up and excuse making, with not a few lies into the bargain.. From 'if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going' to 'if it's Boeing, I ain't going' Sad - and all the while the execs took ever higher 'compensation' - more, in fact, than the victims who lost their lives and/or loved ones...
Good video
Elon will bring them home
Boeing failed.
Get China help
If China wants to help, it cannot do so, as the docking hatch do not fit the Chinese space capsules.
What I learned is nasa should get its money back from boeing
Just another reason we "can't" go "back" to the moon.
Medusa
I say this respectfully, sorry ive been lied to too much, id them makimg us excited agsin by showing us how dangerous it is? I hope thats right , but i doubt it, what th aircfaft that is carry underneath a bomber? Parasite aircraft maybe? I forget the term
F bowing they done😊
Having her in orbit breaks international treaties...that Nuclear Warhead Chin
How do you figure??
She's an American
Are you a racist, trolling or just stupid?
Could crew dragon tow star liner home?
No , it can’t.
Just cuz they won't doesn't mean they can't
No!
@@mikemahr2486 double you
@@mikemahr2486Are Esstea double you!
I will never fly on a Boeing within the atmosphere let alone trust them in the exosphere 🤣I don’t like Elon, but I most certainly am amazed by the thing’s he creates! He is no TESLA even if he makes the vehicles with that name, but Damn, he is amazing! 👍🏿😎
WE ARE WASTING MONEY AND RESOURCES IN SPACE. MAKE EARTH BETTER !
Idiot! Where do you think the money is spent? And you probably don't even realize that half the tech you use daily is the result of space programs.
Boeing is wasting taxpayer money in space, LEO and on nonsense.
Boeing is also
_wasting_
whistleblowers!
NASA and U.S. left the Astronauts in Space . U.S. Government Administration Politicians Policies makers left their American Citizens to dwell in street tent house 😂 with no paycheck medicare ,meals . The government Administration and policies makers fled now .
But Boeing has its Woke company policies down pat go boeing
🎉 CALL ELON ! 🎉 🎉. CALL ELON ! 🎉 🎉 CALL ELON !🎉 7:03 7:05
Not happening while he supports Trump.
@@Taz6688Why not ?
@@johnb4183 Why when Tesla is the biggest EV manufacturer was ignored by the Whitehouse, they invited all other EV car manufacturers and made bold claims, but ignored Tesla, in a net-zero world why ignore him when he has done more innovation for EV vehicles.
TODAY BOING = NO TRUST