@@rhatala27 He was absolutely lightning in 2003, 2004 and 2006 as well. In 2005, he just had the fastest car in his hands. 2003 (Kimi Vs DC) - Kimi - Australia, San Marino, Austria, Monaco, Canada, Europe, France, Silverstone, Hungary, Monza, US, Japan DC - Spain, Brazil (No surety because we don't know that Raikkonen had good enough fuel to continue till the end of the race, as DC probably had it, but still I am being generous). I have also excluded Malaysia, a race in which Raikkonen won by almost 40 seconds, just because he was running 4th behind DC, who was in 2nd when DC retired on lap 3. Also, Germany, where he qualified ahead of DC, was squeezed out of the race by Barrichello, with no fault of his own, still ahead of DC. Overall - 12-2 in races (Raikkonen was 0.499 faster than DC on average in qualifying) 2004 - Raikkonen - Malaysia, San Marino, Monaco, Europe, Canada, US, Silverstone, Germany, Hungary, Spa, Monza, China, Brazil DC - Australia, Bahrain, Spain, France, Japan Overall - 13-5 in races, (Raikkonen was 0.373 faster than DC in qualifying average). 2005 - Raikkonen - Malaysia, Spain, Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Turkey, Suzuka, China Montoya - Brazil, Monza, Silverstone, Europe, Australia Overall - 9-5 Vs Montoya in races, 1-0 against De La Rosa (Bahrain), and 0-1 against Wurz (San Marino) (Because Raikkonen was the one who broke the car by being incredibly aggressive on the kerbs) (Raikkonen was 0.362 faster than Montoya in Qualifying average) 2006 - Raikkonen - Bahrain, Australia, Europe, Spain, Monaco, Silverstone, Canada, US Montoya - Malaysia, San Marino Raikkonen - France, Germany, Turkey, Monza, China, Japan, Brazil De La Rosa - Hungary Overall - 8-2 in races (0.374 faster than Montoya on qualifying average, 0.631 faster than De La Rosa on average). Just tell me how he was lightning quick only in 2005? In 2005, Montoya got Silverstone and Monza because of Raikkonen's penalty, but even then it would be somewhere around 11-3 in Raikkonen's favour, somewhere similar to 2006, infact 2006 having higher qualifying average than 2005.
@@f1analysis900 Im not saying he wasnt amazing those years too, just that he was better in 05. He didn't make as many mistakes, and yes the car was faster but he managed to make it untouchable (when it actually worked). Montoya was also a much more formidable teammate than DC.
The kerb excuse in Imola is nonsense. Ron stated there was a faulty part after the race they wanted to replace. No matter how aggessive you are a driveshaft must last 9 mere laps. @@f1analysis900
@@rhatala27 He made less mistakes in 2006, in comparision to 2005, outperformed Montoya higher than 2005, with a bigger qualifying average. If the 2006 car would've been as fast as the 2005 car, it would've been similar results, and people would've rated 2006 higher because he made less mistakes. In 2005, he stalled at the start of Australia, was too aggressive in Imola, when was told to be easy with the kerbs, broke his suspension by flat spotting the tires in Nirburgring while leading the race, spun off in Monza while recovering (Although that is a little passable). In 2006, he only crashed out in Hungary, even that can be attributed to being a racing incident and gave 2nd position to Schumacher by running off the track in Canada. You can also say that he messed up his qualifying lap in Monaco where he was on course to be on pole, but was still I think more than half a second faster than Montoya in qualifying, and had an amazing race before his retirement. Of course, you can say that in 2005, he was fighting for the world title, which is why he was error prone, but overall I would rate both of the seasons almost similar. What really sells 2003 for me is the time frame in which Kimi performed the way he did, taking external factors into consideration. To really understand, just how good the 2003 season was, you need to really see how Hakkinen fared against DC from 1998-00, 2001 as well, and also the fact that Raikkonen performed like that in only his 3rd season being the least experienced F1 driver of all time. I will show you Hakkinen Vs DC from 1998-2000, which is clearly Hakkinen 's peak period, the only driver in the 1990s to be closest to Schumacher after Senna unfortunately died in the San Marino accident of 1994. 1998 - Hakkinen - Australia, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Monaco, Silverstone, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg , Japan DC - San Marino, France, Spa Overall - 11-3 (Hakkinen was 0.312 faster in qualifying average) 1999 - Hakkinen - Australia, Brazil, Monaco, Spain, Canada, Silverstone, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Europe, Japan DC - San Marino, France, Spa, Monza, Malaysia Overall - 11-5 ( Hakkinen was 0.282 faster than DC) 2000 - Hakkinen - Australia, Brazil, San Marino, Spain, Europe, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Spa, Italy, US, Japan DC - Malaysia, France, Canada, Monaco, Silverstone Overall - 12-5 (Hakkinen was 0.042 faster than DC, If we exclude the wet France qualifying which tbh was all Hakkinen 's fault as he was too cautious in his lap, he is still 0.136 faster on average) Even in 2002, Raikkonen Vs DC was 7-9 in races and Raikkonen was 0.052 faster than DC on average. In 2001, Hakkinen Vs DC was 6-7 with DC slightly outracing Hakkinen and Hakkinen was 0.110 faster overall. If we consider Hakkinen to be the closest to Schumacher, then Raikkonen in 2003, was performing better than prime Hakkinen despite being the least experienced F1 driver of all time and also with a 1 year old McLaren in only his 3rd season (And with all the internal politics between Adrian Newey and Ron Dennis). Also, Schumacher easily had his worst season in F1, in his "first stint". Was 9-6 in races against Barrichello, and only 0.042 faster than Barrichello on average. So he was not performing at his usually high level, Montoya was never really a Schumacher/Alonso/Kimi level driver, and Alonso was incredibly impressive, but was not fighting for the championship. In terms of impressiveness, I think 2003 was his greatest year and performance wise as well he was not that far off in comparison to 2005/06, but maybe in terms of performance 2005/06 was better, but 2005 is definitely not a very clear best season from him, like a lot of journalists make it look like.
2003, 2005, 2007. All great seasons.
But the car he had in 2003 was the least competitive.
Kimi's greatest season in F1. He was unbelievable the whole year and the best driver of that season, only Alonso comes close.
Idk, I'd say 2005 was better. He was absolutely lightning that year.
@@rhatala27 He was absolutely lightning in 2003, 2004 and 2006 as well. In 2005, he just had the fastest car in his hands.
2003 (Kimi Vs DC) -
Kimi - Australia, San Marino, Austria, Monaco, Canada, Europe, France, Silverstone, Hungary, Monza, US, Japan
DC - Spain, Brazil (No surety because we don't know that Raikkonen had good enough fuel to continue till the end of the race, as DC probably had it, but still I am being generous). I have also excluded Malaysia, a race in which Raikkonen won by almost 40 seconds, just because he was running 4th behind DC, who was in 2nd when DC retired on lap 3. Also, Germany, where he qualified ahead of DC, was squeezed out of the race by Barrichello, with no fault of his own, still ahead of DC.
Overall - 12-2 in races (Raikkonen was 0.499 faster than DC on average in qualifying)
2004 -
Raikkonen - Malaysia, San Marino, Monaco, Europe, Canada, US, Silverstone, Germany, Hungary, Spa, Monza, China, Brazil
DC - Australia, Bahrain, Spain, France, Japan
Overall - 13-5 in races, (Raikkonen was 0.373 faster than DC in qualifying average).
2005 -
Raikkonen - Malaysia, Spain, Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Turkey, Suzuka, China
Montoya - Brazil, Monza, Silverstone, Europe, Australia
Overall - 9-5 Vs Montoya in races, 1-0 against De La Rosa (Bahrain), and 0-1 against Wurz (San Marino) (Because Raikkonen was the one who broke the car by being incredibly aggressive on the kerbs) (Raikkonen was 0.362 faster than Montoya in Qualifying average)
2006 -
Raikkonen - Bahrain, Australia, Europe, Spain, Monaco, Silverstone, Canada, US
Montoya - Malaysia, San Marino
Raikkonen - France, Germany, Turkey, Monza, China, Japan, Brazil
De La Rosa - Hungary
Overall - 8-2 in races (0.374 faster than Montoya on qualifying average, 0.631 faster than De La Rosa on average).
Just tell me how he was lightning quick only in 2005? In 2005, Montoya got Silverstone and Monza because of Raikkonen's penalty, but even then it would be somewhere around 11-3 in Raikkonen's favour, somewhere similar to 2006, infact 2006 having higher qualifying average than 2005.
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Im not saying he wasnt amazing those years too, just that he was better in 05. He didn't make as many mistakes, and yes the car was faster but he managed to make it untouchable (when it actually worked). Montoya was also a much more formidable teammate than DC.
The kerb excuse in Imola is nonsense. Ron stated there was a faulty part after the race they wanted to replace. No matter how aggessive you are a driveshaft must last 9 mere laps. @@f1analysis900
@@rhatala27 He made less mistakes in 2006, in comparision to 2005, outperformed Montoya higher than 2005, with a bigger qualifying average. If the 2006 car would've been as fast as the 2005 car, it would've been similar results, and people would've rated 2006 higher because he made less mistakes.
In 2005, he stalled at the start of Australia, was too aggressive in Imola, when was told to be easy with the kerbs, broke his suspension by flat spotting the tires in Nirburgring while leading the race, spun off in Monza while recovering (Although that is a little passable). In 2006, he only crashed out in Hungary, even that can be attributed to being a racing incident and gave 2nd position to Schumacher by running off the track in Canada. You can also say that he messed up his qualifying lap in Monaco where he was on course to be on pole, but was still I think more than half a second faster than Montoya in qualifying, and had an amazing race before his retirement. Of course, you can say that in 2005, he was fighting for the world title, which is why he was error prone, but overall I would rate both of the seasons almost similar.
What really sells 2003 for me is the time frame in which Kimi performed the way he did, taking external factors into consideration. To really understand, just how good the 2003 season was, you need to really see how Hakkinen fared against DC from 1998-00, 2001 as well, and also the fact that Raikkonen performed like that in only his 3rd season being the least experienced F1 driver of all time. I will show you Hakkinen Vs DC from 1998-2000, which is clearly Hakkinen 's peak period, the only driver in the 1990s to be closest to Schumacher after Senna unfortunately died in the San Marino accident of 1994.
1998 -
Hakkinen - Australia, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Monaco, Silverstone, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg , Japan
DC - San Marino, France, Spa
Overall - 11-3 (Hakkinen was 0.312 faster in qualifying average)
1999 -
Hakkinen - Australia, Brazil, Monaco, Spain, Canada, Silverstone, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Europe, Japan
DC - San Marino, France, Spa, Monza, Malaysia
Overall - 11-5 ( Hakkinen was 0.282 faster than DC)
2000 -
Hakkinen - Australia, Brazil, San Marino, Spain, Europe, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Spa, Italy, US, Japan
DC - Malaysia, France, Canada, Monaco, Silverstone
Overall - 12-5 (Hakkinen was 0.042 faster than DC, If we exclude the wet France qualifying which tbh was all Hakkinen 's fault as he was too cautious in his lap, he is still 0.136 faster on average)
Even in 2002, Raikkonen Vs DC was 7-9 in races and Raikkonen was 0.052 faster than DC on average. In 2001, Hakkinen Vs DC was 6-7 with DC slightly outracing Hakkinen and Hakkinen was 0.110 faster overall. If we consider Hakkinen to be the closest to Schumacher, then Raikkonen in 2003, was performing better than prime Hakkinen despite being the least experienced F1 driver of all time and also with a 1 year old McLaren in only his 3rd season (And with all the internal politics between Adrian Newey and Ron Dennis). Also, Schumacher easily had his worst season in F1, in his "first stint". Was 9-6 in races against Barrichello, and only 0.042 faster than Barrichello on average. So he was not performing at his usually high level, Montoya was never really a Schumacher/Alonso/Kimi level driver, and Alonso was incredibly impressive, but was not fighting for the championship. In terms of impressiveness, I think 2003 was his greatest year and performance wise as well he was not that far off in comparison to 2005/06, but maybe in terms of performance 2005/06 was better, but 2005 is definitely not a very clear best season from him, like a lot of journalists make it look like.
13:58 - a man on an absolute mission.
I love it when James Allen couldn't avoid laughing as he noticed Kimi's determination. He agrees in such a cheerful and hilarious way.
Love this. Just sat here with my 3 yr old showing her what proper F1 was. LOl