11:43 - it's so funny how Martin mentions this as I've always thought the same. Lots of drivers drove poorly that whole weekend- Imola 2006 was weird in that sense. Anyways, we should thank Kimi Raikkonen's unreliable McLaren for the 2005 duel. It would have been an afterthought otherwise.
Miss this type of racing, a driver defending for his life. DRS has killed this type of action, DRS would have rendered both these races down to as easy pass. Shame these races were not on the current imola layout without the final chicane.
That is true but with the amount of dirty air last gen cars were producing made the DRS very important tool. But with the new gen cars if they are able to solve that dirty air problem to some extent then probably as soon as next year onwards the DRS might be ditched completely...
@@speedbird868 I honestly don't get how they didn't design 2022 cars with DRS delete in mind. Says it all about how fucking retarded the FIA is really, I guess.
et oui ! tout comme toi "j'étais" mais j'ai laissé tomber depuis que les V8 a 12 ont été mis au cachot. plus de bruit, plus d'intérêt ! autant écouter un concert en sourdine !
Back then cars could follow each other since there was less dirty air due to the aerodynamics! If they remove the DRS in modern F1 it will be boring! The real problem isnt DRS
I remember watching this race live as a kid in 2006 and it was a happy race for me, to see Schumacher back to his competitive best, after not being able to fight against Alonso and Räikkönen for the championship in the previous year and win a race on merit, rather then that farce at the 2005 US GP.
@@mclarenrob2 James Allen on ITV for me was a lot more bearable then David Croft on Sky, although I do remember him going berserk during Hungary 06 czcams.com/video/_ELNyQ6zoH4/video.html.
From 2005 until 2008 F1 was fun again, because there was competition. Now it is just boring... we need a miracle for someone other than Max Verstappen to win a race in 2024.
when was the last time ANYONE won a race on track in normal circumstances??? lando won because he got a “free” pit stop, he would finish 6th or 5th if it wasn’t by that pit stop. Sainz won because Max car broke. Watching the same guy win all the time without being challenged by anyone is, at least for me, extremely boring.
Hungarian commentators yelling to Schumacher the outside line is much better, right before Alonso pass him outside....He always choose the better grip lines in wet.
I actually had this kind of battle on f1 game. I was ironically driving a ferrari but in this case hunting down verstappen. I was literally behind him for about 10+ laps and even with drs i couldnt get past cos of cars straight line speed Anyways on last lap i got within 4 tenths before the main straight and as i approached turn 1 i pulled out to the right to try an audacious move around the outside... But guess what? A backmarker was there so i went straight into the back of him and retired from session. The backmarker was an Aston martin driver. I wont need to tell you which one it was lol
Those Ferraris were insanely quick. I cannot believe Kimi and Fernando took as many wins as they did against them. Just shows that having so many variables such as Different Tyres, Refuelling, , broader design rules really could make the racing interesting both on/off the track. On a side note Mercedes won a race now as I predicted in April - I knew the design has potential in it and it would be criminal to throw it all away for 2023.
@@ciaronsmith4995 F1 doesn't have this kind of battles anymore.The new fans think that battles are about crashing into each other and overtake with DRS.I miss the old era before 2014. Seeing this battle,I remembered the 2010 Italian Gp where Alonso and Button had an amazing battle which included everything.
@@nando-ig6qo Me too. Well said. It's about having culture and not being completely ADD like audiences today. The racing was cleaner, which I vastly prefer. Sorry to be harsh...
@@ciaronsmith4995 All the races back then had a physical flow.Refuelling and tyre war provided less overtakes on track but battles between teams and drivers were much more intense.And this battle was on track purely,not on FIA's office like it is today.Then the championship was decided between teams and drivers.Now it is decided by Merc who had a 3-4 year advantage going into the Hybrid era and destroys the sport.
I remember this race schmi has comfortable lead by 20 secs over alonzo. But he slow down letting alonzo get close to him. And he did what alonso did to him a year ago..
Schumacher gave me sweaty palms there,, ffs what an unreal race, alonso was brilliant also, v10 power super quick and sounds so sexy compared to the woke cars now
Probably 2005. Alonso made a lot of little mistakes in Imola 2006 when following. But these battles are slightly overrated because it's almost impossible to pass in Imola and in 2005 they weren't the fastest.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Do you mean Renault weren't fastest?? Yeah they had a problem, Schumi would've been close if Renault was at it's usual speed. But hey I still never asked is, I always compare F2002 to F2004, plus RB7 to RB9, and then W05-06-07 to W11 and maybe soon RB19 vs RB20( I hope it won't be like this thought), but I never asked this: Which Renault was better between R25 and R26 and more comfortable to win the title on pure pace?? Was R25 compared to Mclaren better or R26 compared to Ferrari??
Só foi aparecer um piloto acima da média como o Alonso que Schumacher parou de ganhar mundiais na fórmula 1. Schumacher ficou de 1994 a 2004 sendo campeão e batendo todos o recordes contra pilotos medianos.
these battles prove why DRS is the worst thing to happen to F1. If DRS existed in 2005 then Schumacher would've just blasted past Alonso at the first opportunity. The lack of it meant that Schumacher was having to invent different ways to overtake and it meant that Alonso had the chance to defend his position. The argument for DRS is "it aids overtaking". But what stunning overtake in the last 5 years lives long into the memory? None. These battles between Alonso & Schumacher featured, ultimately, no overtaking. But they are remembered because of how fierce the battles were
11:43 - it's so funny how Martin mentions this as I've always thought the same. Lots of drivers drove poorly that whole weekend- Imola 2006 was weird in that sense.
Anyways, we should thank Kimi Raikkonen's unreliable McLaren for the 2005 duel. It would have been an afterthought otherwise.
These F1 cars look so much better then the SUV-sized F1 cars that are driven today.
Miss this type of racing, a driver defending for his life. DRS has killed this type of action, DRS would have rendered both these races down to as easy pass.
Shame these races were not on the current imola layout without the final chicane.
That is true but with the amount of dirty air last gen cars were producing made the DRS very important tool. But with the new gen cars if they are able to solve that dirty air problem to some extent then probably as soon as next year onwards the DRS might be ditched completely...
@@speedbird868 I honestly don't get how they didn't design 2022 cars with DRS delete in mind. Says it all about how fucking retarded the FIA is really, I guess.
@@speedbird868 its as simple as making the fkn cars smaller. literally just bring back 2010 cars lol
Well now finally FIA is talking about making the DRS zones shorter at tracks where the DRS leads to an easy pass before the braking
@@speedbird868instead of F1 using DRS as a temporary “fix,” they decided to make it permanent.
The sound , two beautiful cars
This is top3 greatest races I watched live
That’s hard and clean racing/defending. Masterclass. Can’t imagine Max would not have just launched a do or die dive in MS position.
Grandi battaglie. Grandissimi piloti❤❤
Always more exciting when Michael's behind you, well for us viewers maybe not for the drivers 😂
A ce temp la c était de beau grand prix .aujourd'hui sa n a plus rien à voir j était supporter et fan de Renault bravo à tout ces grands pilotes
et oui ! tout comme toi "j'étais" mais j'ai laissé tomber depuis que les V8 a 12 ont été mis au cachot. plus de bruit, plus d'intérêt !
autant écouter un concert en sourdine !
Que buenos tiempos de la auténtica F1 y que dos grandes pilotos.
Perfect example of why DRS has ruined the drama of F1
Back then cars could follow each other since there was less dirty air due to the aerodynamics! If they remove the DRS in modern F1 it will be boring! The real problem isnt DRS
End wind tunnel hours
N minimal elements in wings n attached to cars
I remember watching this race live as a kid in 2006 and it was a happy race for me, to see Schumacher back to his competitive best, after not being able to fight against Alonso and Räikkönen for the championship in the previous year and win a race on merit, rather then that farce at the 2005 US GP.
Imola 2005, the infamous ITV ad break.
ITV - "fancy an ad break?"
Yeah the only downside I remember back in those days, still i would have ITV'S coverage any day of the week over Sky Sports
@@warwickbull5559 Definitely, considering it was free! It's a real shame
@@mclarenrob2 James Allen on ITV for me was a lot more bearable then David Croft on Sky, although I do remember him going berserk during Hungary 06 czcams.com/video/_ELNyQ6zoH4/video.html.
*Bwoah i was leading the race but car broke*
Raikkonen would have won Imola 2005 so easily if his car didnt give up
From 2005 until 2008 F1 was fun again, because there was competition. Now it is just boring... we need a miracle for someone other than Max Verstappen to win a race in 2024.
Like Norris last race? How can you say boring when it's about 0.1-0.2 secs per lap, F1 has never been this close, never...
when was the last time ANYONE won a race on track in normal circumstances??? lando won because he got a “free” pit stop, he would finish 6th or 5th if it wasn’t by that pit stop. Sainz won because Max car broke. Watching the same guy win all the time without being challenged by anyone is, at least for me, extremely boring.
Imagine if alpine this time can give a car like this to alonso, it would be awesome to see him battling for another championship
Maybe they should give it to Ocon because he's going to beat Alonso.
Lol. Imagine.
@@theelf152 by trying to hold Alonso and himself up
Your wish has come true, just not with alpine
^^^^ Time really shows those talking absolute rubbish.
Hungarian commentators yelling to Schumacher the outside line is much better, right before Alonso pass him outside....He always choose the better grip lines in wet.
I actually had this kind of battle on f1 game. I was ironically driving a ferrari but in this case hunting down verstappen. I was literally behind him for about 10+ laps and even with drs i couldnt get past cos of cars straight line speed
Anyways on last lap i got within 4 tenths before the main straight and as i approached turn 1 i pulled out to the right to try an audacious move around the outside...
But guess what? A backmarker was there so i went straight into the back of him and retired from session. The backmarker was an Aston martin driver. I wont need to tell you which one it was lol
The early V8s sounded like V10s. Lovely
Watching this on the week of the Imola (Emilia Romagana) GP.
Вот это были гонки.....
Alonso defend like a lion
the original minister of defence
Kimi did it in Australia 2003 too for even longer!
@@ciaronsmith4995 I still can't understand how Kimi took that ancient McLaren into a title fight.
@@nando-ig6qo Kimi had a drink with him in those races
I’d say Senna personally. 1993 in South Africa and then later in that same year in Great Britain.
those where the days when f1 was driven by men and not by boys
Nice battles 😄
Those Ferraris were insanely quick. I cannot believe Kimi and Fernando took as many wins as they did against them. Just shows that having so many variables such as Different Tyres, Refuelling, , broader design rules really could make the racing interesting both on/off the track. On a side note Mercedes won a race now as I predicted in April - I knew the design has potential in it and it would be criminal to throw it all away for 2023.
Really odd race, what was it the only race in 2005 time the Ferrari looked like the fastest car on the grid
Kimi and McLaren looked like the fastest before the car broke down as usual. Michael wouldn't have been able to even touch Kimi without the DNF.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Agreed, but if they both started on the front row?
Motorsport Excellence.
And now same defense with Checo at Interlagos 2023
30$ for general emission ? Damm wish I was old enough back then
Top racers. What are sound🔊. How fast Alonso in Acuaminerale.
Sem DRS, simplesmente no braço!!!
Great battles.Alonso was distracted way too much in 2006 imola battle.The 2012 Alonso would have gotten past.
Yeah I was surprised he made some uncharacteristic errors following, too. But it was a fun battle both times.
@@ciaronsmith4995 F1 doesn't have this kind of battles anymore.The new fans think that battles are about crashing into each other and overtake with DRS.I miss the old era before 2014.
Seeing this battle,I remembered the 2010 Italian Gp where Alonso and Button had an amazing battle which included everything.
@@nando-ig6qo Me too. Well said. It's about having culture and not being completely ADD like audiences today. The racing was cleaner, which I vastly prefer. Sorry to be harsh...
@@ciaronsmith4995 All the races back then had a physical flow.Refuelling and tyre war provided less overtakes on track but battles between teams and drivers were much more intense.And this battle was on track purely,not on FIA's office like it is today.Then the championship was decided between teams and drivers.Now it is decided by Merc who had a 3-4 year advantage going into the Hybrid era and destroys the sport.
@@nando-ig6qo exactly right lad. There were more variables at play overall, and since 2014, it's been the most predictable formula ever.
No halo, no DRS, no crap electric boost. Pure F1
I remember this race schmi has comfortable lead by 20 secs over alonzo. But he slow down letting alonzo get close to him. And he did what alonso did to him a year ago..
Put here 2006 hungary wet conditions :D
Senza DRS era dura, ma era VERA BATTAGLIA !
Schumacher was a special driver. God bless him!
Lo mismo paso entre Lewis y Pérez en 2021 y 2022.
I'm amazed Schumacher didn't run into Alonso to be honest.
Schumacher never run into someone.
Schumacher gave me sweaty palms there,, ffs what an unreal race, alonso was brilliant also, v10 power super quick and sounds so sexy compared to the woke cars now
It's actually V8 in 2006. V10 in 2005. But yes.
rugissement f1 🔝,, encore de la vrai f1.... Aujourd'hui je préfère la Nascar... Basta eco f1.....
The age gap
Which battle was better do you think??
Probably 2005. Alonso made a lot of little mistakes in Imola 2006 when following. But these battles are slightly overrated because it's almost impossible to pass in Imola and in 2005 they weren't the fastest.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Do you mean Renault weren't fastest?? Yeah they had a problem, Schumi would've been close if Renault was at it's usual speed. But hey I still never asked is, I always compare F2002 to F2004, plus RB7 to RB9, and then W05-06-07 to W11 and maybe soon RB19 vs RB20( I hope it won't be like this thought), but I never asked this: Which Renault was better between R25 and R26 and more comfortable to win the title on pure pace?? Was R25 compared to Mclaren better or R26 compared to Ferrari??
Senna for évent.is the best.😢
Dosent get amy better!
No sé si Alonso estuvo en un Benetton
Telefonica
Si senna n'avais pas disparu prématurément, jamais Michael n'aurait eu se palmarès....mais avec des si .....
Michael Schumacher is the fucking GOAT!
Not even close.
Not in this race. Very very impressive Alonso I would say
@@somenteasescrituras4064course Michael is the greatest!! You obviously don't know f1
It's not what he has won its the story behind it legacy
They asked Michael who was the fastest of all drivers. Do you know whom he mentioned?
F1 is so bad today compared to these days
How bad is the tracion of that Ferrari what a joke
Só foi aparecer um piloto acima da média como o Alonso que Schumacher parou de ganhar mundiais na fórmula 1.
Schumacher ficou de 1994 a 2004 sendo campeão e batendo todos o recordes contra pilotos medianos.
Guerra contra el legendario Michel es mejor que Hamilton con respecto a su desafío
these battles prove why DRS is the worst thing to happen to F1.
If DRS existed in 2005 then Schumacher would've just blasted past Alonso at the first opportunity. The lack of it meant that Schumacher was having to invent different ways to overtake and it meant that Alonso had the chance to defend his position. The argument for DRS is "it aids overtaking". But what stunning overtake in the last 5 years lives long into the memory? None. These battles between Alonso & Schumacher featured, ultimately, no overtaking. But they are remembered because of how fierce the battles were
Alonso head and shoulders above Schumacher.
Ero li ....un grande duello bravissimi tutti e due
Bei Tempi,la Ferrari 2003, da' alla Ferrari 2024, un secondo e tre' decimi A GIRO.
Qualcosa di Incomprensibile
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