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- China is notorious for its air pollution, but it also boasts the world’s cleanest, most efficient power plant in Shanghai. And it does so by burning the dirtiest of all fossil fuels - coal. Can one really turn coal ‘clean’?
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3:01 I hope people know that is not a Chimney, it's a cooling tower and the "smoke" coming out of it, is steam(pure water), not smoke from burning coal.
@@FascismoRedentor962 but it's also water cooling towers even if it's nuclear or whatever it is station
Absolutely
Whole video is propaganda lol they shut down the whole units for there video
Misleading title about a coal plant. Nuclear energy is the cleanest power generation method
There are three major pollutants you need to remove from burning coal: particulates, heavy metals and oxides of sulfur. Removing them can be quite expensive, hence the reason why in the USA, many power plants use low-sulfur content coal from Wyoming's Powder River basin.
No explanation of how tech worked at all..
Yeh this video explains it really terribly.
Most new plants built today are ultra-supercritical. And such plants emit less emissions and are more efficient. And it's easier to add filters to the newer coal plants.
So basically it's just a holistic improvement over past generation coal plants. Making it the cleanest coal plant today. But not actually fully clean at all lol
@@greenworld1259 did u understand what cleanest mean?
Basically a normal power plant that uses higher pressure boiler, and steam turbines
National security😂😂
There are many carbon capture technologies, such as RPBs. So what in this video is possible
"Clean coal" involves scrubbing SO2. NO2, and dust out of the exhaust. But it doesn't mean CO2 emissions are reduced from my understanding. That requires carbon capture and sequestration. That is expensive.
Think about how in nature forest fires would burn every year or two and trillions of tons of ash and smoke would go into atmosphere! If anything the earth may need this natural process
That is exactly right, they claim that they eliminate the residual CO2 emmisions, which cannot be true, because after removing the real pollutants, that is all that remains after coal combustion. And CO2 in the air is vital for the vegetation for the photosynthesis of C6H12O6, grape sugar.
I assumge that even on a dōng fēng storm the chinese use wine.
He deserves all the awards.
For putting filters on a plant? That plant emits CO2 which is fucking transparent... capturing fine dust with water curtain... no visible smoke... but you contaminate a shitload of water.... what a feat of engineering...
Béla Németh I applaude only for his acheivement. Thats all. Its not like every one of us never pollute earth before..
He bought all the awards. The people who came up with the "awards" bought him and his soul.
vanilla panda Does he really deserve all the awards for creating a NIMBY-proof coal power plant? After what we've learned from Germany with their clean diesel cars? Clean coal is a myth just as clean diesel.
@@bigm0j02 dust in water can be filtered.
2:09, the caption should read every one cubic meter, not every meter. Professor describes the concentration of particles in a volume, not a length.
This technology was developed 40 years ago in the United States
@peter pan the mining still releases CO2, and nuclear releases 0 greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere. Why use outdated coal burning with new tech to make it “cleaner” (but still dirty), when you can use nuclear, which is much more efficient too? Hopefully china continues building nuclear power plants
I think this is really very misleading. Prof Feng talks about capturing the nitrogen dioxide, sulphur and dust... but there is no evidence of CO2 capture in his explanation. The claim that this is a clean power station is even more disputed when you talk about publicity at the end.
Let's keep fossil fuels like coal where they belong, in the ground, or in a museum!
Trees 🌳 Breathed CO 2 so it's fine.
@@waiteswaite that's truth to some extent, but we are emitting much more than trees can sequester. We need to rapidly reduce emissions as well as plant more trees worldwide
So it works. Tell me how clean the process of making batteries to store renewable energy
The problem with Green energy, is that it is increasing the unemployment and poberty rates in a worldwide scale. You can run a photovoltaic plant of thousands of hectares with a handfull of people. I have experienced it personally, hundreds of colleagues (engineers, technicians, cleaning staff, administrative, logistics, etc.) losing their jobs due to the closure of thermal plants... it is a true and sad reality, and the city, which is small, is slowly dying economically.
I would love to find a middle ground between having clean energy and generating a sufficient number of jobs, but at the moment, clean energy does not provide even 5% of the jobs in a thermal power plant.
The cleanest energy is nuclear because the environmental impact is the smallest of all energy sources.
Like in fukushima?
when it go wrong it also clean up the whole ecosystem from ever be safe for human civilization to thrive there
which has no way to be dealed with.
Nuclear is Radical. It's like, the best.
Mining always is a dirty job. This is also the case for uranium mining.
Superb presentation🤗🤗🤗
Hi China 🇨🇳
HI, my lover.
Ok
great job
Currently the best #1 US coal plant is not even same league in energy efficiency versus the the top 100 coal plants in China. MAGA amirite?
First, link your source... second, maybe noone builds coal power plant in the western world in the recent decades...
USA should learn from Norway.
We will have all or cars electric by the next 10 year.
I see more and more buses in Norway that are electric.
I agree with him that Europe, USA and Japan have better tech than China, but USA don't apply those tech to good use.
Those coal plants are old. They are building quick start and combined cycle natural gas power stations.
" Béla Németh
Béla Németh
3 days ago
First, link your source... second, maybe noone builds coal power plant in the western world in the recent decades... "
China has a high energy demand and with it's demand even with multiple nuclear power plants can barely achieve enough power for it's people. Nuclear power plants take a long time to certify. Even with it's increased number of coal plants, SO2 emissions have been reduced by 75% in China.
@Béla Németh But didn't Trump say that he was going to bring back more coal jobs in America?
Long live China -- best country -- love from Pakistan.
@Asian Guy - yeah I've heard the same from different sources :'') 💚
India's better than Pakistan.
Chopstick I'm not an Indian.
Indian ladies are renowned for their beauty. Pakistani women are well known for their moustaches.
I spoke to a government official in India recently. She said that Pakistan is full of pussies, that don't have the courage to use their nuclear weapons.
@@AK-ic4qw You high on that madarsa education?
So happy the US killed Bin Laden. Pakistan was harboring him. Cut all aid to Pakistan. Support India.
Any other natural energy we can use?
For 10 years Vancouvers' False Creek Thermal Energy Utility has been financially 'self-supporting', heating it's buildings and supplying its hot water requirements by capturing its' thermal sewage heat, eliminating 60% of regular building carbon emissions, and it provides 70% of the areas heating requirements annually, except for in the coldest of weather. This thermal technology also provides the all - important cooling for the intense summer heat. All of you living in cities could use this technology -it's local, sustainable and a 24/7 energy source, with plenty of room for further development. Solar is just one big business technology of going Green. Consider if all the cities in the world used their sewage problem, turning it in to an energy solution instead. Providing local long-term employment, low impact on the environment, and demands on infrastructure. Vancouver/Canada now has 4 thermal heating districts, making a profit and expanding a 5th . Green Initiative Vancouver -check it out!
Hydrogen fuel cells, solar energy, biofuel, geothermal, and hydroelectric
infinite generator gg
Human heart
@Your mum nuclear is by far better than fossil. Fusion doesnt even produce energy yet lmao
We have these scrubber systems in the US as well. My trade installs them.
Great video, subbed :-)
China is a power in asia China is not a comparison in any other Asian country
Basiclly the agreement they signed allow them to continue to increase emissions until 2030.
Love it,nice work👍
And what about the Mercury?
hello sir
how to generate electricity
Love ❤️ & respect from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇨🇳
10-Year-Old Boy Gang-Raped by Islamic Teachers Until He Cried Blood
Sickening incident took place in Northern Pakistan Madrassa
The sexual harassment case with minors are rapidly increasing in Pakistan, only in 2019, from January to June, 1,304 cases of sexual abuse of children have been reported in the media.
Which the numbers of minor girls and boys are 729 and 575, respectively, who became casualties of sexual misuse. The cases under significant classes included 378 of snatching, 139 of assault, 153 of homosexuality, 46 assault, 88 of group homosexuality through 12 minor boys and four girls have been killed after sexual maltreatment. - According to Sahil, a child protection society.
great information!
Didn't explain clean coal technology, just says uses clean coal and uses Environmental friendly filter. Well every power plant uses filters like Electrostatic precipitator. Wish you explained more how they cut down pollution to 20mg. And cooling tower does not produce pollution, its just vapor.
It probably consumes a good amount of energy to clean its own emissions. 20 mg? A fraction of then current limits?
Moonscape mineing looks like mines in southern Indiana . Tear up everything leave pits and overburdened behind good for nothing but scrub trees.
Is the gentleman’s first name Prof or is that being used as a short for Professor? If the latter, why did the anchor keep using it incorrectly? Wonder if the voice was auto generated or was that the real voice of the video anchor hired for the infomercial.
The us has been using scrubber technology for years! Lol
This needs to be done everywhere!
I thought Isogo Plant in Yokohama Prefecture, Japan has the cleanest coal plant emission.. With single digit NOx, SOx, PM and CO.
Yes. They are very much the same.
Very well made video. Just stay away from the American sitcom phrases. They cheapen the information, and insult your intelligence.
bj2690 Yes, I totally agree. The West does not know how to deal with anything positive that does not originate from them.
When I said "well made video", I was referring to the way the young man was giving us the information. I'm tired of seeing videos where the host is talking to us like we are 6 year old kids.
Eric, You get brainwashed so easily
NOT RANDOM
ON PURPOSE
He showed where SO2 and NO was captured, but missed the probably the most important CO2. Why? it's probably not captured.
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I could see more days with blue sky and white clouds in recent two years to be honest in Shanghai and Even Beijing ! You guys agree ?
yes, it's not as bad as 2015 or so
It's getting better and better.
its not geting better. you still cant get china air as clean as the us air was in 1980
@@dknowles60 why not close all the factory right? Just like what EU and America used to be. The air will be clean as hundreds ago.
Living in shanghai for 4 years, the air got worse each year
You never spilled the beans in the video. What is clean coal and how do you clean it?
This is nothing new it's just a scrubber. You can look it up yourself. Basically it's absorbing and filtering the by products so instead of just letting the black smoke go into the atmosphere your capturing it instead
Clean coal refers to more complete combustion. Supercritical means it is produces less unwanted gasses. (you get c02 in return)
Chinese is our iron brothers
Iron man
i want to vist Pakisan
Lol congratulation you just had a brother that trick you into dept trap
@@lijie6431 iron brother，in Chinese language mean The strongest kind of friendship.😂
russia sounds more logical
It's the world cleanest/ most efficient fossil fuel power plant: Not the most out of all power generation.
The video even stated that it couldn't compete with natural gas, so it's not even the cleanest or safest fossil fuel power plant
0:53 "kWh/yr" means energy per second in one hour per year lmao
Amazing
could u guy give me an opinion about this video *for long story please
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1:00 "no one is allowed to enter" - someone used Google Translate?
meanwhile in 2022 china approved the construction of 106 GW powerplants more than the whole of the United Kingdom in one year.
What is amount of coal per year you burn
Did he used also SORBENT ER1 From Poland?
what if it finishes in the ocean where will they use
Welldone china
there's one big problem with this video at 3:10 ... you cannot power anything by burning coal without producing carbon dioxide, because that's the end result of burning elemental carbon, which is the main source of energy in coal...
they probably remove nitrogen and sulphur compounds from the coal, though, to make it cleaner... and possibly have measures to improve combustion in order to reduce carbon monoxide formation... which is good, since these are harmful pollutants to human health.. but they cannot make a good claim in terms of global warming gases reduction (maybe nitrous oxide which might have some incidental formation - and it is not even cited in the video - but the amounts should be very minimal when compared to carbon dioxide)
the only way to not produce carbon dioxide is to not burn the coal - you could use an ultra complicated system during (not before) the generation of energy to trap the CO2 in some sort of inorganic salt (like CaCO3), which would require water to come in to the equation too and further mess this up, but it would not be remove during pre-treatment as stated here
Stupid ending. We have been told so many lies about so called 'green' and 'renewable' energy sources.
2:25 "There's 50,000 tons packed on board this tanker." Sorry, bro. But you can't put a solid on a ship that transports a liquid. That was a "Bulk Carrier," not a "Tanker."
4 units of 500MW?
The #DualFluidReactor is best. #weregoingbacktothemoon !!
Good Guy Prof.Feng
Nuclear power is the way forward.
@Steve Withers, Your argument is misleading. It does not matter what kind of power plant is built. If 'enemies' they target it, a region will be electrically paralized. Because fun fact : any type of power plant can be destroyed.
Yeah it is. It's amazing that more people don't realize this
Even if he removes the dust, NOx, SOx, whatever else going out the stack is CO2. Carbon that used to be underground now up in the air as a colourless greenhouse gases.
how would it work as a greenhouse gas, when it's not actively heating anything? it just absorbs heat but doesn't cause it.
@@pcxPOT how can a blanket keep you hot at night if it doesnt produce heat? It just absorbs heat and doesnt cause it.
@@CarlosAM1 I hope you realise how dumb your comparison is, right? I'm not gonna point out your flawed logic in this.
@@pcxPOT Where is it though? Both trap infrared light and re emit it back, one is a solid, the other a gas. Where is the flaw?
@@CarlosAM1 you said it yourself, one is solid, meaning the sheet trap the warm air, the same thing isnt happening in our atmosphere, the air distributes itself
Oh my gosh the narrotor is like oh my gosh
From what I can glean is all the pollutants are removed except carbon dioxide. i. e. The main greenhouse causing one.
with the rate their reforestation is going, that wont be a problem. Also they are working hard with the turbine+solar+hydro hybrid power plant, developing nuclear project with europe etc,
This is like bragging about being 'The World's Tallest Dwarf'. I wonder how much their energy costs. In the US coal energy already costs more than wind or solar, so why bother with coal at all?
Things will make more sense if you stop transplanting your conceptualization of the rest of the world purely based on how energy industry in the US works.
Singapore needs SMR nuclear power plant. Offshore, floating or submerged
Where do you think the lithium comes from for the batteries which store electricity produced by windmills and solar panels? It’s mined.
You only need to mine it once though. And don't disperse it into the atmosphere after using it.
@@avada0 some is still lost on recycling. Still tho thats alotta lithium ya gonna mine
@@CarlosAM1 So? Many mountains worth of other materials were mined. Humanity is good at mining.
@@avada0 yeah, we are also very good at polluting the hell out of places we mine.
@@CarlosAM1 So? No pain, no gain.
When refined minerals start to grow on trees, we can stop mining.
Who industrialized first? UK, Europe and US 200 years longer than China. So who is the highest carbon emitter? Now China uses carbonless coal wow
I find it weird that each person uses his own language. I mean, one would expect them to use one language for someone's convenience.
They are not trying to shift away from coal-burning plants are building many of but they are clean. Good for them they get it.
Hope we all learn for them !!
@@FowlorTheRooster1990 what happened now ?
A great way to transition to renewables
Why do they show the cooling towers, as if they are emitting smoke ? People just don't know what they are talking about.
国家电网的火力发电站的标准一直以来都是最高的
Hydro power?
This is where the so called clean coal comes from
Well done. Hope we can replace all the old poeer generators by this one.
There's no form of energy that doesn't require mining.
How can anything be clean when you have a deadly waste to dump.
@4.37 CGi!
where doues the co2 go ?
carbon capture maybe
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Inner Mongolia is literally a dessert
No metter how dirty it is, if you dont use it, try use a candle.
Windmills Are a good idea... IF YOU PLACE THEM IN THE OCEAN!
Nice power station. How much does it cost to produce and ship the coal ?
*Wind and sunshine are free.* One can never compete with free fuel for long :-)
epSos.de they are free, but wind and solar plants require huge initial investment. Also storage, which costs yet like a hundred times more than the wind and solar generators themselves.
No, but then the amount of area to make these powerplants are HUUUGGGEEE.
epSos … I agree but we must give credit for effort.
China, globally, has the largest supply of sewage resource - so they should consider this technology coming out of Vancouver, B.C. For 10 years Vancouvers' False Creek Thermal Energy Utility has been financially 'self-supporting', heating it's buildings and supplying its hot water requirements by capturing its' thermal sewage heat, eliminating 60% of regular building carbon emissions, and it provides 70% of the areas heating requirements annually, except for in the coldest of weather. This thermal technology also provides the all - important cooling for the intense summer heat. All of you living in cities could use this technology -it's local, sustainable and a 24/7 energy source, with plenty of room for further developmen of sewage as a fuel, or generating electricity. Solar is just one big business technology of going Green. Consider if all the cities in the world used their sewage problem, turning it in to an energy solution instead. Providing local long-term employment, low impact on the environment, and demands on infrastructure. Vancouver now has 4 thermal heating districts, making a profit and expanding a 5th . Green Initiative Vancouver -check it out!
clean coal really isnt clean. I've been a powerplant engineer in "clean coal" for years now. the hypocrisy is uncanny
Love from india...
Coal energy can be clean if using silica sand and limestone fluidised bed _ or pyrolytic gasification-flox technology like in the Valmet plants.
Trump is good for keeping talking, while the Chinese people are good for working hard and keeping doing. That's the tiny thing causes big difference.
Now we can talk about clean coal, at the end of this video it says no clean coal due to this and that, however, that's not true. Prof. Feng has clearly shown it. He and many others know it's hard to make clean coal, so, step by step they simply work on this, and worked out.
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It catched the carbon( soot) not catches the carbon dioxide.That is what matters
Chinese scientists are the best in the world when it comes to efficiency regarding coal technologies and also nanotechnology carbon capture. The earth shouldn't be afraid of using coal for electricity!
I hope united nations for climate change will start and investigate how this coal power plant produce low co2 emmisions to help thier advocacy in coal burning issue.
On April 6 2021, Wuhan had a very large storm of Sulphur Dioxide. The city was gripped by this storm due to circulations of wind which locked the Sulphur Dioxide in the city. A coal power plant in Wuhan also added Sulphur Dioxide to 1760 micro grams per cubic meters. You should not be exposed to Sulphur Dioxide any more than 15 minutes at 500 micrograms per cubic meter. The coal power plant should have been shut down for 18 hours, people told to conserve energy, and power rerouted to Wuhan.
Have clean coal, really clean coal.
Lol
Jose Flores virgin coal.
cleanest power plant except every single hydro, wind, and solar installation in the world.
Annnndddd..... every single hydro, wind, and solar installation in the world (and all that can or will ever be built) won't even come CLOSE to humans' consumption of energy. Where will the rest of the juice come from? Clean plants like these. Hopefully something even better. But it will require a good intelligent mix of things, anyone who believes in a 100% renewable future (and that includes a few corporate CEO's) have absolutely no grasp of the magnitude of the problem.
And nuclear.
Good job u deserve it.😀
4:33 There is a far more efficient way to generate power from coal, it is called ' Integrated gasification combined cycle, with real efficiency of over 62%
Using GE Aeroderivatives gas turbine engines after gasification, cleaning of any coal , of course, preferred are anthracitic coal varieties.
See General Electric Aero derivatives.
I would love to see the literature for the 62% if uou have it handy. For some reaaon, i haven't seen efficiencies for integrated gasifier combined cycle coal power generating units to be more than about 47%. There just seems to be a lot of thermal losses associated with gasification. They do seem to be more agnostic of coal quality though. Wai Gao Qiao Unit 3 has achieved 47.5% net electrical efficiency just by rasing the steam temperature amd pressure and employing double reheat.
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Wuhan Feb 2 2022 Sulfur dioxide emissions 1039 micro grams (from Nullschool) . This is so easy to fix by removing the sulfur and mercury before the coal is fired. I sent a file to Wuhan (sinosure), also to (mee) government in China yesterday to show how easy it is to remove the sulfur. Another area with high sulfur emissions is Luohuang Power.
Feb 10 2022 4 pm local time. 2,356 micrograms per cubic meters.
How do you remove sulfur from coal before combustion?
@@gregorymalchuk272 Very simple. .You heat the crushed coal to 500 C which will turn sulphur and mercury in gas form , making it easy to remove from the coal. Heat exchangers can be used so that you are hardly using any energy to remove the sulphur and mercury.
Saving money, environment, and lives.
The title of the video is extremely misleading.
That good clean air come out tail pipe but question why still raises hotter temperatures??? Too hot blower out of tail pipes, too hot radiator come out hot air, engine too hot out of and into air. Too many air conditioners R-410 and R-32 compression high pressure too hot blower air into sky air. Sigh😢
Hurry up with molten salt reactors.
I fear in today's collective idiocy based political climate all novel nuclear technologies will turn out to be vaporware.
One can only hope that all the pollution won't be catastrophic before renewable gets good enough.