This is where the hotrod community comes in. Instead of starting with a car thats worth $40,000, find an old muscle car for $2,000 - $3,000 and swap in all the hellcat stuff. Boom you are instantly cooler than the guy driving a factory hellcat
@@ChiTownRuler023 shit is fuckin ridiculous I’m trying to find one and you would think with the prices people are asking it would atleast come with an engine 🤣😅
I swap my 2010 chager 3.5 L to a 5.7 L RT for about $2000 took everything from a wrecked rt including the front and rear sub frames, transmission, rear diff it was well worth it in my opinion
The average person can't do this. Most don't have skills or the tools. You can't even buy a wrecked RT car for $2000 unless you steal it. Then you better have some mad mechanical and electrical/programming skills. And a lot of time.
I have an 2016 AWD sxt, kept all the badges and swapped with 6.2 when it blew up. costed more that I like and It drinks gas but I drove with smiles per gallon.
More now I've been seeing scatpacks for 50k hellcats are around 80 to 90k. He trying to sale a car it's people who swap motors heck khal_srt put a hellcat in a v6 300c
What people don’t tell you is yeah it cost almost 18k to swap to a hell cat motor but once you take out ur 392 and the trans you are able to sell that for about 7-8k$ so I’m reality it’s a 10k$ swap and that if you buy the hell cat motor new . I’m currently swapping mine with a 2021 used hell cat motor with 2k miles purchasing the motor along with the new ecu and heat exchanger for 10k$ Labor 1500$ Once my 392 motor and tranny is sold I’ll be looking at a total of 4-5k $ total in the swap
The transmission is nowhere near 7-8k resale - more like acouple thousand. You’re way off. Furthermore the hp70 transmission can take 7lbs boost using the proper bypass valves which aren’t even necessary on the v8. But on a v6 swap you’ll risk the torque conversion immediately to the transmission or differential. Something tells me you probably have a v6 and all these #s you’re configuring are fictional #s...
Basically what you have to do if buy a hellcat and transfer everything to your V6. People here on CZcams have bought wrecked Hellcats with fully functional engines, trans and diff, and transferred all to their V6s (there’s even a guy who took it a step further and swap a manual trans from a challenger into a Charger). It’s not cheap, but in the long road is way cheaper than buying a hellcat
That's why you buy a donor car with all the parts that your going to need. There's a guy in Dearborn Michigan that's done with a few times, and done 2 V6 300's and they've come out perfect. Strips both cars done to replace the harness. Charges $12k to do the swap. Not bad considering the work involved.
The only way I see it being practical and less cost effective if you have a V6 and buy a wrecked Hellcat and do a complete transfer from A to B by yourself all at once then sell the V6 drivetrain along with the wrecked car after that done enjoy 😉
Sounds like a lot of the issues with the V6 swap wouldn’t be an issue if you got the engine and trans with harness from a hellcat. Then add a different rear end and drive shaft. The question is, is it cost efficient to do all of that lol
The transmission will slip immediately. The torque conversion is an issue. Also a v6 needs a bypass valve for the throttle he said. My friend has a jeep Srt w 60k miles and his front diff is bad somehow. Even so it’s meant to be a rear wheel drive car...a v6 is barely all wheel drive. Something tells me it wouldn’t be able to take that power even w the proper electronic harnesses etc etc. think about why the hellcat has so many coolant reservoirs as well. The heat from the supercharger mounted on top of the manifold is one.
I’m converting my 2020 Jeep srt to be pro charged right now to decrease the heat soak issues common w hellcats (found one for $3500 online auction). The piston material is different than a hellcats however. It’s possible if I add too much power that that is an issue let alone all these other potential problems mentioned in the video. I’m not too worried because I have a good connection w my shop owner, but when thinking of upgrading to a trackhawk/hellcat I would def consider this video...and I’m absolutely fortunate I didn’t drop at least another 30 k to buy one to some “stealership” asking another 30k above msrp - in lieu of what was said here.
@@ryanc2927 Well of course the V6 trans would slip right away that’s why I said get a drivetrain out of a hellcat lol. Whoever is trying to run a V6 trans behind a 6.2 is either insane, or doesn’t plan on giving it more than 1/4 throttle hah. But yeah, be careful with boost on your 392 and stick some money aside just in case lol
$10-15k for a new transmission and differential!!? I don't think so. If you got a v6 don't trade your car for a V8 just to swap a motor into it!! Just buy the hellcat motor trans combo with the harness and pcm. Find them all day long at auctions 15k and up
Hot damn where is auction at? Are you talking wrecked hellcats at auction or a pallet of all these parts like Cleveland power sels? The ones where they can actually start and rev everything on the pallet
@@eflem7708 both, copart.com for wrecked vehicles, and also fb market place and eBay, guy in Michigan had a crate engine transmission, computer, ecu ,harness plugged up in a crate for $16k+ but you find those all the time, what happens is people part out wrecked hellcats cause they know that's what people want.... And as mentioned by other keyboard warriors, if you feel it's a stolen engine ask for the vin, with pictures of you can't go and see it in person and check for stolen report
@@eflem7708 and who actually reports to sos you put a different engine in your car? You gonna call up your insurance too so you can pay hundreds more a month!?
I got a 1988 cutlass supreme with the hellcat motor trans and rear end fuel pump and cooling system it was a lot of work I did it all on my own took my 2 months
Lol exactly 😭😭😭 hellcat engine and trans , he must be a car salesman 👨💼 lol trying to get people to buy a high car , when you can just do a full swap ... duh
Man you guys gotta think, it’s not that easy. Go look on CoPart for a wrecked hellcat with a good engine trans, rear end and wiring harness. It’s gonna cost you over 25k. If you are a mechanic and have all the right tools I would say go ahead but if not you will be paying a ton in labor.
Hell no thats a house getting a swap is way cheaper the repo auctions are full of scatpacks and hellcats 2k car payments or buy a v6 charger get wreaked charger hellcat from auction just for the motor transmission drive train suspension wires etc. Depending it's people who'll do everything for like 12k that's way cheaper then buying used because hellcats used ive looked they're people selling hellcats with over 50k miles for more then 60k
Not to mention in order to get traction on the 706hp you need the OEM Widebody add on through Dodge Direct Connection which is another $2300 per SRT Rim, $4k Widebody kit, $1250 wide body parts painted and blended to your car, Widebody emblems $650, 305 Michelin Z0 Race tires $2800, new Tire Sensors per tire $165 x4, Widebody spoiler $1300 plus tax and labor equals about $17-20k . If you have any decal wrap it has to be removed $600 and car needs to be sanded, paint correction and buffed w/ceramic coating to protect the Widebody $2,000 + tax. That doesn’t include engine cleaning, any work interior etc. Once you start doing all this your car will look very nice on exterior but your interior will be not so good so u will instantly get the internals cleaned, shampooed, new rugs etc that’s about $1,000. I got all new red alcatara seats front and back with the hellcat on it as my car had a weird smell when I bought it, people don’t be clean before they get in they car and it gets in the alcatara seats and shampoo doesn’t work passed 2 weeks it comes back so I got it replaced $7,000. I got Demon steering wheel $1300, new gas pedals being the originals were worn out bad from dirt and previous owner $800. New SRT rugs $580. Out the door I paid over $33,000 to get my car to a place it needed to be, that’s not including your R/T to Hellcat, simply add $30-40k to that smh. That’s like brand new slim body. U still need to pay the $$17k-20k to convert to Widebody through dodge direct connection regardless. Then add on Exhuast and mods. It’s expensive no matter which way you cut it.
Unfortunately there's a CZcamsr that is swapping Hellcat internals into v6s fourtane Grande so it is a point of being greedy because this guy is just killing it making his channel bigger than ever buying junk hellcats and transplanting their internals into 300
Would it be better to install a Hellcat engine or rebuild the 6.4 top and bottom end? My opinion of the Hellcat engine is that it has weak internals wristpins and piston failure and in the end your output is far less than a supercharged 6.4 stoked to 426. I agree that is best to just get a Hellcat if you are happy with stock Horsepower but if you want to get into the 1200 HP range you need to go though the engine and trans anyway. Go Big or go home
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Yes, but you'd have to sacrifice AWD. The Hellcat's torque will shatter the GT AWD's transmission, differentials, and CV axles. Not to mention the fuel system isn't up to snuff either. With the amount of stuff you'd need to change over, you'd might as well purchase a salvage hellcat to use as a parts car.
@@hoonpatrol5994 what about a Dodge Charger I want buy a base charger as project car and one of the big reason is to swap in the hellcat engine but keep the sleeper look
It's easy to do especially with a salvage hellcat and a bit of wrenching experience , the magnum,charger,challenger,300c are all the same car and the jeep is a durango underneath thats how dodge has saved money for years they are like legos for the most part , the parts are literally bolt in across the entire line with very few exceptions on a few brackets and ground studs, no reason you can't take a for example magnum or a 2014 durango and make it a hellcat.
Besides a guy on here just did a older model v6 swap to a 5.7 then to a hellcat and apparently it was pretty easy for him I have yet heard how much in total for everything
What’s the point of even getting a Hellcat now these days are getting spank on drag strip’s by Ford Mustang Shelby GT500, Camaro ZL1 and Corvette Stingray Z51 C8! Dodge needs to step up there game and make the Challenger lighter and smaller or introduce the Barracuda which is the same size and weight like the other cars I mentioned.
Want to swap in a hemi (not necessarily a hellcat) 6.1-6.4 gen three hemi and 8 speed auto into my 2001 dodge van~~~~ can’t use the blower,, don’t think there’s enough room under engine cover for it
I'm buying a wrecked hellcat right now on copart then I'm just going to chop the body, part out whats left on ebay and then i'm sticking an old 70' roadrunner body i've got laying around over the chassis and powertrain.
"Is it worth doing the swap?" Well how I see it, it all depends on what the vehicle is too, if you're talking about 392 or Hellcat Swapping a Dodge Charger or Challenger, in my opinion it's not worth it at all, because they already make Dodge Chargers and Challengers with those specific engines and trims from the factory, you may as well save your money and trade But if we're talking about Hellcat or 392 Swapping a Chrysler 300, or a Jeep Gladiator, or even in something older like a Dodge Magnum, yes, it's totally worth it! Because Chrysler themselves never offered those cars with those engines from their factory assembly plants, so it makes them very unique, and alot more special
No he is false about the estimate conversion cost being around 22k give or take, that is false. We did the numbers because my brother actually went and did it and got a final estimate cost not including labor. The cost for parts were $32,790.44. Labor was by the hour and they quoted $7,890.00 Out the door they said a even $40k they will accept. Giving him a $1,000 discount. My brother got them to come down from $6,890.00 to $6,000. My brother thought it was still to high so my brother pulled the someone else would do the labor for $5,000 and if he would match it and he said absolutely NOT. He told my brother he is free to get the parts and they would tow the car to that shop for free, as long as he paid $32,790.00 he would have his guy tow it free and of course my brother was lying soo. Then, my brother took the parts list to another dealer and they returned 5 days later with a quote of $29,458.00. That's $3,000 savings right, well not so fast. They would charge $9,500.00 in labor and they would not budge at all. Not a single $1. So we tried to buy parts from store 2 and have store #1 do the install, they weren't having it. We went back to store #2 and asked why they parts were $3000 cheaper and they said they know people and made some calls to the owner of the shop and asked for some deals etc. However we quickly learned later in fact the parts cam out to be $32,012 and he took $3,000 off to appear like my brother was getting a deal but he added it to the labor cost so we was not getting a deal. So he went back to store #1 as they had more professional store front and master mechanics who build cars for a living vs store #2 who fixes cars. Store #1 was better. He did tell my brother once it's all installed there's a DO NOT do list. Literally said no long periods of driving, can't take it out of state on long drives, needs to rest after aggressive pulls etc. At the bottom of the list it said: WARNING ⚠️ WE will tune it to produce 50% of what a hellcats potential is until the owner gets upgraded differentials, drive shaft, transmission and all this other stiff that was like another $15k. My brother said I'll be out of like 55k that's at that point I could of just bought a real hellcat. He abandoned that project and 1 year later he financed himself a 2017 Srt Dodge Challenger Hellcat.
So basically, powertrain, ecu's, guts/harnesses, dash, and tuner to marry the ecu to car and put a custom basemap tailored to the specific performance of the motor (good/bad condition) of motor. Thoughts?
@@moparnation2235you pretty much spoke on swapping the motor. I have swapped 6.2’s into 3.6’s many times. You do a full donor car swap. The challengers body for mounting has not changed since 08 exceptions are the doors. Every engine and trans mounts in the same spot. It’s doable and as of now, the preferred way to go. Used 6.2 engine and trans is around $12k, front and rear suspension with driveshaft is around $1800-$2300…those are the two main parts. Heat exchanger is another $600-$800…other parts such as pedal and wiring is around another $1500…still much cheaper than the average hellcat today. And the 6.4L would be even easier
If you have a paid off V6, trading for a use V8 will most likely leave you with a balance less than an engine swap. I’m trading mine for a 5.7 then I’ll be happy lol.
That was 3 years ago prices ….. now it way more for a hell cat or scat pack or any 392 . Also Rt’s are now 45k at dealership . Soooo what’s better ? Just buy a bicycle……
Got it! I have a 2015 se, I'm trading in the car. I was told it would cost me 7k for a LS conversion and 7k to drop a 392 in with transmission upgrade, rear end up grade and a freaking drive shaft. Yep trading her in. I dont have funds sitting around like that
So you're going to trade it in and pay more 7k is good for a swap. Nothing is different from a hellcat to a se just a different motor transmission drive train
Yeah you won’t touch Hellcat for under $50,000 now. Another video said it cost him $7000 to transplant Hellcat motor into non Hellcat car. Now to pick up a reasonably priced R/T for $25000 or so then add $7000. Reasonably priced Hellcat but it’ll never be worth what real Hellcat will but still have the fun. Ok $7000 just made it look like Hellcat. What a waste.
anything can be done with enough money, but the question is, is it worth it?? and as a rule the answer is no, from a v8, its much simpler, with a v6 it is not easy and definitely not worth it
Patience is knowing and knowledge will only get you to point A to B. Just like the GPS to any shop with a lift and tools right. Imagination will take you anywhere son. Its not about money its about respect.
This is where the hotrod community comes in. Instead of starting with a car thats worth $40,000, find an old muscle car for $2,000 - $3,000 and swap in all the hellcat stuff. Boom you are instantly cooler than the guy driving a factory hellcat
boomers want 10k plus for a rusted El Camino shell near me
2000-3000k what market you shopping in 60% of us don't want a old ass car with no AC and needs to be restored..
@@ChiTownRuler023 shit is fuckin ridiculous I’m trying to find one and you would think with the prices people are asking it would atleast come with an engine 🤣😅
So he said a v6 is hard but the v8 would be a drop in i got a 92 chevy caprice is it actually possible 😮
"Instantly cooler" you buying cars to impress guys 😂 just buy what you like
I swap my 2010 chager 3.5 L to a 5.7 L RT for about $2000 took everything from a wrecked rt including the front and rear sub frames, transmission, rear diff it was well worth it in my opinion
Was it from a current Gen? I got a 2010 3.5 highout put and considering doing a 5.7 or 6.4
I did the same except a challenger and cost about half as much as I had left over parts from a wrecked charger rt I used.
The average person can't do this. Most don't have skills or the tools. You can't even buy a wrecked RT car for $2000 unless you steal it. Then you better have some mad mechanical and electrical/programming skills. And a lot of time.
@@QwertyQwerty-jq3cu not really true you could learn a lot from just tearing something down
@@minimodzz7297 that's a fact.
I would totally have a base sxt on the outside and all hellcat underneath 😂
Yes indeed 🤣
Nah fr🤣
Smh
I have an 2016 AWD sxt, kept all the badges and swapped with 6.2 when it blew up. costed more that I like and It drinks gas but I drove with smiles per gallon.
Anything can be done with enough money
Steve White Parts can you guys get it done if so I probably would be interested
@@SrtHemiPower we can
Steve White Parts can a 2008 dodge magnum be done. I know you said 2011 and up but can you do a 2008 dodge magnum with $40K.
So I can bring in my dodge in and you guys can swap it ?
@@sehshika3846 all depends what you have
That $48,000 hellcat is a $65,000 hellcat now used
Right 🤦🏾♂️🤣
Yup
Fact
More now I've been seeing scatpacks for 50k hellcats are around 80 to 90k. He trying to sale a car it's people who swap motors heck khal_srt put a hellcat in a v6 300c
Higher in 2023
I want to give the guy mad props for being honest about the cost and if its really worth it.
thank you for being an honest guy and laying it out black and white
What people don’t tell you is yeah it cost almost 18k to swap to a hell cat motor but once you take out ur 392 and the trans you are able to sell that for about 7-8k$ so I’m reality it’s a 10k$ swap and that if you buy the hell cat motor new .
I’m currently swapping mine with a 2021 used hell cat motor with 2k miles purchasing the motor along with the new ecu and heat exchanger for 10k$
Labor 1500$
Once my 392 motor and tranny is sold I’ll be looking at a total of 4-5k $ total in the swap
The transmission is nowhere near 7-8k resale - more like acouple thousand. You’re way off. Furthermore the hp70 transmission can take 7lbs boost using the proper bypass valves which aren’t even necessary on the v8. But on a v6 swap you’ll risk the torque conversion immediately to the transmission or differential. Something tells me you probably have a v6 and all these #s you’re configuring are fictional #s...
@@ryanc2927 facts
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Basically what you have to do if buy a hellcat and transfer everything to your V6. People here on CZcams have bought wrecked Hellcats with fully functional engines, trans and diff, and transferred all to their V6s (there’s even a guy who took it a step further and swap a manual trans from a challenger into a Charger). It’s not cheap, but in the long road is way cheaper than buying a hellcat
If I wanted to do it would be just to keep it a sleeper! Keep all the GT badges on it and ppl will think you just have a beefed up exhaust
It's funny to look at this video 2 years later and see people doing Hellcat swaps easley
Would you recommend putting a hellcat engine in a SRT8 or just putting a hellcat supercharger on a SRT8 engine?
@@freemygrandma8752 that srt8 transmission wouldn’t be able to handle that power for long gang
@@jedirasta that's true definitely wouldn't but unfortunately my car was stolen a couple weeks ago
@@freemygrandma8752 I’m sorry to hear that. You’ll reap the benefit of it though. Big checc otw and the car
@@jedirasta i accept that energy. Thank you.
That's why you buy a donor car with all the parts that your going to need. There's a guy in Dearborn Michigan that's done with a few times, and done 2 V6 300's and they've come out perfect. Strips both cars done to replace the harness. Charges $12k to do the swap. Not bad considering the work involved.
Im in the Michigan area do you got the guys name or you talking about khal srt
who does these swaps?
This is exactly what I was looking for. Perfect information! Thank you.
The only way I see it being practical and less cost effective if you have a V6 and buy a wrecked Hellcat and do a complete transfer from A to B by yourself all at once then sell the V6 drivetrain along with the wrecked car after that done enjoy 😉
That's pretty much what everyone is doing
You will save in car insurance!! Lol
I never knew there was a "1320" trim level for the challenger lol
Yes it is sir
Baby demon drag pack edition.
V6 guys “ so you’re telling me the swap is doable 😀” lol 😆
Lol
Just like all the other car guys who put faster motor in their cars over the last 50yrs said also.
Sounds like a lot of the issues with the V6 swap wouldn’t be an issue if you got the engine and trans with harness from a hellcat. Then add a different rear end and drive shaft. The question is, is it cost efficient to do all of that lol
On god
The transmission will slip immediately. The torque conversion is an issue. Also a v6 needs a bypass valve for the throttle he said. My friend has a jeep Srt w 60k miles and his front diff is bad somehow. Even so it’s meant to be a rear wheel drive car...a v6 is barely all wheel drive. Something tells me it wouldn’t be able to take that power even w the proper electronic harnesses etc etc. think about why the hellcat has so many coolant reservoirs as well. The heat from the supercharger mounted on top of the manifold is one.
I’m converting my 2020 Jeep srt to be pro charged right now to decrease the heat soak issues common w hellcats (found one for $3500 online auction). The piston material is different than a hellcats however. It’s possible if I add too much power that that is an issue let alone all these other potential problems mentioned in the video. I’m not too worried because I have a good connection w my shop owner, but when thinking of upgrading to a trackhawk/hellcat I would def consider this video...and I’m absolutely fortunate I didn’t drop at least another 30 k to buy one to some “stealership” asking another 30k above msrp - in lieu of what was said here.
@@ryanc2927 Well of course the V6 trans would slip right away that’s why I said get a drivetrain out of a hellcat lol. Whoever is trying to run a V6 trans behind a 6.2 is either insane, or doesn’t plan on giving it more than 1/4 throttle hah. But yeah, be careful with boost on your 392 and stick some money aside just in case lol
Hesitation before saying the used Hellcat has "Never been abused" 🤣🤣
This guy is giving good advice. I thought about buying a used R/T from 13 but I think I’ll save my money and get what I want instead
Just get a 2020 rt challenger , used under 5k miles you’ll get one for like 30k
$10-15k for a new transmission and differential!!? I don't think so. If you got a v6 don't trade your car for a V8 just to swap a motor into it!! Just buy the hellcat motor trans combo with the harness and pcm. Find them all day long at auctions 15k and up
good luck
Hot damn where is auction at? Are you talking wrecked hellcats at auction or a pallet of all these parts like Cleveland power sels? The ones where they can actually start and rev everything on the pallet
@@eflem7708 both, copart.com for wrecked vehicles, and also fb market place and eBay, guy in Michigan had a crate engine transmission, computer, ecu ,harness plugged up in a crate for $16k+ but you find those all the time, what happens is people part out wrecked hellcats cause they know that's what people want.... And as mentioned by other keyboard warriors, if you feel it's a stolen engine ask for the vin, with pictures of you can't go and see it in person and check for stolen report
@@eflem7708 and who actually reports to sos you put a different engine in your car? You gonna call up your insurance too so you can pay hundreds more a month!?
I got a 1988 cutlass supreme with the hellcat motor trans and rear end fuel pump and cooling system it was a lot of work I did it all on my own took my 2 months
All you'd need is a full swap
Lol exactly 😭😭😭 hellcat engine and trans , he must be a car salesman 👨💼 lol trying to get people to buy a high car , when you can just do a full swap ... duh
Man you guys gotta think, it’s not that easy. Go look on CoPart for a wrecked hellcat with a good engine trans, rear end and wiring harness. It’s gonna cost you over 25k. If you are a mechanic and have all the right tools I would say go ahead but if not you will be paying a ton in labor.
LS2kid found one only paying 5k about to put it in my 2015 sxt plus
@@naruto41479 vids?
@christopher jr dougherty your right it was a bid that was the starting bid I couldn’t afford it when it got all the way up 😂I thought I was about to
That's why you get the entire wiring harness from the hellcat as well.
Exactly this guy is talking like someone is going to just swap engines but leave the v6 trans and ecu
I agree if your still paying for a V8 it's better to trade and get a used hellcat all together, all around good advice thanks
Not if you want a hellcat in something other than a challenger or charger
Hell no thats a house getting a swap is way cheaper the repo auctions are full of scatpacks and hellcats 2k car payments or buy a v6 charger get wreaked charger hellcat from auction just for the motor transmission drive train suspension wires etc. Depending it's people who'll do everything for like 12k that's way cheaper then buying used because hellcats used ive looked they're people selling hellcats with over 50k miles for more then 60k
Sell you 16k engine or 45k car🤨
doing the swap is really not that hard, the issue is, is it worth it
Forgot to mention brakes calipers rotors and suspension cost
Not to mention in order to get traction on the 706hp you need the OEM Widebody add on through Dodge Direct Connection which is another $2300 per SRT Rim, $4k Widebody kit, $1250 wide body parts painted and blended to your car, Widebody emblems $650, 305 Michelin Z0 Race tires $2800, new Tire Sensors per tire $165 x4, Widebody spoiler $1300 plus tax and labor equals about $17-20k . If you have any decal wrap it has to be removed $600 and car needs to be sanded, paint correction and buffed w/ceramic coating to protect the Widebody $2,000 + tax. That doesn’t include engine cleaning, any work interior etc. Once you start doing all this your car will look very nice on exterior but your interior will be not so good so u will instantly get the internals cleaned, shampooed, new rugs etc that’s about $1,000. I got all new red alcatara seats front and back with the hellcat on it as my car had a weird smell when I bought it, people don’t be clean before they get in they car and it gets in the alcatara seats and shampoo doesn’t work passed 2 weeks it comes back so I got it replaced $7,000. I got Demon steering wheel $1300, new gas pedals being the originals were worn out bad from dirt and previous owner $800. New SRT rugs $580. Out the door I paid over $33,000 to get my car to a place it needed to be, that’s not including your R/T to Hellcat, simply add $30-40k to that smh. That’s like brand new slim body. U still need to pay the $$17k-20k to convert to Widebody through dodge direct connection regardless. Then add on Exhuast and mods. It’s expensive no matter which way you cut it.
Definitely don’t need the widebody for traction, just need some name brand tires and stop buying used tires not worth anything but going to takeovers.
@@JustAimBetteryeah that dude was just talking
forged internals with a supercharger on 392 is a better option in my opinion. or just get a hellcat.
There are a couple of guys on CZcams that installed an actual Hellcat supercharger from Mopar on a 5.7 or a 6.4 Hemi.
Unfortunately there's a CZcamsr that is swapping Hellcat internals into v6s fourtane Grande so it is a point of being greedy because this guy is just killing it making his channel bigger than ever buying junk hellcats and transplanting their internals into 300
Can you put dodge hellcat in a Kia Rio 2012 car?
Yes if you have the balls to
Would it be better to install a Hellcat engine or rebuild the 6.4 top and bottom end? My opinion of the Hellcat engine is that it has weak internals wristpins and piston failure and in the end your output is far less than a supercharged 6.4 stoked to 426. I agree that is best to just get a Hellcat if you are happy with stock Horsepower but if you want to get into the 1200 HP range you need to go though the engine and trans anyway.
Go Big or go home
Finally an honest businessman.
I fuckin wish used hellcats were still at 48k.
Hell cats aren’t 47k anymore they are literally twice that which is why we want to swap
Khal_SRT has done hellcat swaps into Chrysler 300 & now into changer
It’s been done bro
Guy on CZcams does hellcat swaps on anything like cake his CZcams is @khal_SRT he’s swapped v6 300 and did a 2012 charger RT into a hellcat
8 speed will easily cost 4500, upgraded differential 3 to 5, axles 1500, driveshaft 1k, won’t take long to get over 10k
You forgot about the 376 CID Supercharged V8 which after a short search will already have the swap over $10,000
Would a 2010 dodge Se work for a hellcat swap?
@@alexchavez3244 just get a hemi and find a hellcat blower. They bolt on to the 5.7l, 6.1l, 6.4l
10k is better then 80k for a used charger or challenger hellcat that's most likely have been dogged out or brought from a auction and fixed back up.
I would like to see a hellcat crate go into a bmw 6 f13 body. Now that would be impressive
All you need is the wire harness from the Hellcat
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Would you be able to put a hellcat/scat pack engine in an AWD GT Challenger?
Yes, but you'd have to sacrifice AWD. The Hellcat's torque will shatter the GT AWD's transmission, differentials, and CV axles. Not to mention the fuel system isn't up to snuff either. With the amount of stuff you'd need to change over, you'd might as well purchase a salvage hellcat to use as a parts car.
@@hoonpatrol5994 what about a Dodge Charger I want buy a base charger as project car and one of the big reason is to swap in the hellcat engine but keep the sleeper look
@@NOBODY-hj6qd You'd probably be best off starting with a retired police Charger. You won't have to swap nearly as much if you start with a Hemi car.
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It's easy to do especially with a salvage hellcat and a bit of wrenching experience , the magnum,charger,challenger,300c are all the same car and the jeep is a durango underneath thats how dodge has saved money for years they are like legos for the most part , the parts are literally bolt in across the entire line with very few exceptions on a few brackets and ground studs, no reason you can't take a for example magnum or a 2014 durango and make it a hellcat.
Would love to scatpack swap my 5.7 Magnum!
We’ve answered that...but what about a Charger RT engine in a Charger GT?
Besides a guy on here just did a older model v6 swap to a 5.7 then to a hellcat and apparently it was pretty easy for him I have yet heard how much in total for everything
A wise man has spoken.
I know someone who has done this, tuned it and drags it. Local kid to. Old school 2016 V6 Charger with Hellcat 2019 motor today
What’s the point of even getting a Hellcat now these days are getting spank on drag strip’s by Ford Mustang Shelby GT500, Camaro ZL1 and Corvette Stingray Z51 C8! Dodge needs to step up there game and make the Challenger lighter and smaller or introduce the Barracuda which is the same size and weight like the other cars I mentioned.
Want to swap in a hemi (not necessarily a hellcat) 6.1-6.4 gen three hemi and 8 speed auto into my 2001 dodge van~~~~ can’t use the blower,, don’t think there’s enough room under engine cover for it
If you wanna swap an engine into a v6, kist buy the sub mod you want. Itll cost more to swap everything needed than to buy a new car.
I'm buying a wrecked hellcat right now on copart then I'm just going to chop the body, part out whats left on ebay and then i'm sticking an old 70' roadrunner body i've got laying around over the chassis and powertrain.
What's your info 👀 on ebay
What about swapping 2015 challenger 5.7 hemi into a 2015 challenger v6? I was offered a 5.7 engine and transmission for $3k
Jay G I’m curious about this as well
Will work.
So what you're saying is that I shouldn't try to put one in my Civic?
This is for people who don't have experience. If you have experience do whatever you want with your build.
This guy isn't stealing your money. Get video 👍
What about swapping a 6.4 into a v6?
It’s easier & less costly
A new 6.4 from mopar will run you 9k
"Is it worth doing the swap?"
Well how I see it, it all depends on what the vehicle is too, if you're talking about 392 or Hellcat Swapping a Dodge Charger or Challenger, in my opinion it's not worth it at all, because they already make Dodge Chargers and Challengers with those specific engines and trims from the factory, you may as well save your money and trade
But if we're talking about Hellcat or 392 Swapping a Chrysler 300, or a Jeep Gladiator, or even in something older like a Dodge Magnum, yes, it's totally worth it! Because Chrysler themselves never offered those cars with those engines from their factory assembly plants, so it makes them very unique, and alot more special
aa guy just said he swapped a 5.7 into his v6 for like 2k since he had leftovers from a wrecked rt
Great video !!!
No he is false about the estimate conversion cost being around 22k give or take, that is false. We did the numbers because my brother actually went and did it and got a final estimate cost not including labor. The cost for parts were $32,790.44. Labor was by the hour and they quoted $7,890.00 Out the door they said a even $40k they will accept. Giving him a $1,000 discount. My brother got them to come down from $6,890.00 to $6,000. My brother thought it was still to high so my brother pulled the someone else would do the labor for $5,000 and if he would match it and he said absolutely NOT. He told my brother he is free to get the parts and they would tow the car to that shop for free, as long as he paid
$32,790.00 he would have his guy tow it free and of course my brother was lying soo. Then, my brother took the parts list to another dealer and they returned 5 days later with a quote of $29,458.00. That's $3,000 savings right, well not so fast. They would charge $9,500.00 in labor and they would not budge at all. Not a single $1. So we tried to buy parts from store 2 and have store #1 do the install, they weren't having it. We went back to store #2 and asked why they parts were $3000 cheaper and they said they know people and made some calls to the owner of the shop and asked for some deals etc. However we quickly learned later in fact the parts cam out to be $32,012 and he took $3,000 off to appear like my brother was getting a deal but he added it to the labor cost so we was not getting a deal. So he went back to store #1 as they had more professional store front and master mechanics who build cars for a living vs store #2 who fixes cars. Store #1 was better. He did tell my brother once it's all installed there's a DO NOT do list. Literally said no long periods of driving, can't take it out of state on long drives, needs to rest after aggressive pulls etc. At the bottom of the list it said:
WARNING ⚠️
WE will tune it to produce 50% of what a hellcats potential is until the owner gets upgraded differentials, drive shaft, transmission and all this other stiff that was like another $15k. My brother said I'll be out of like 55k that's at that point I could of just bought a real hellcat. He abandoned that project and 1 year later he financed himself a 2017 Srt Dodge Challenger Hellcat.
Great video, appreciate it bud
So basically, powertrain, ecu's, guts/harnesses, dash, and tuner to marry the ecu to car and put a custom basemap tailored to the specific performance of the motor (good/bad condition) of motor. Thoughts?
Hell cat blower on a 5.7 sounds easier lol
Or on the scatpack, you'd be making more power with an even bigger displacement than the original hellcat.
@@elijahmontgomery4146a hellcat supercharger on a 6.4 will blow that engine. The 5.7 is better for boost
Im still waiting on someone to do a hellcat blower on a 6.1, if someone gives me a good deal ill do it myself on mine
I believe there's an aftermarket adapter plate to bolt an OEM Hellcat supercharger onto a 6.1L, 6.4L, or 6.1L Hemi.
@@hoonpatrol5994 will not work on a 6.1, vvt versus non vvt
@@moparnation2235 Fair point.
What about just adding the hellcat supercharger to a 6.4 392.
They have adapters now to get the 5.7 and 6.4 with the hellcat blower
Internernals ain’t strong enough to trust me I thought about that. To do a full forged motor is like 12-17 k with a stroker Better just doing a seap
Great video
Quick Genuine Question: So can I put a Hellcat engine in my Grandma’s 03 Astro?
Yea
What about a 5.7 to 6.4 can you do a video on that?
I got a v6 challenger, you think I should rip supercharge it or try and save for a wb scat?
in the long run much cheaper to trade for what you really want
@@moparnation2235 what’s ur contact info? I’m looking to do a swap on my R/T 2015
@@moparnation2235you pretty much spoke on swapping the motor. I have swapped 6.2’s into 3.6’s many times. You do a full donor car swap. The challengers body for mounting has not changed since 08 exceptions are the doors. Every engine and trans mounts in the same spot. It’s doable and as of now, the preferred way to go. Used 6.2 engine and trans is around $12k, front and rear suspension with driveshaft is around $1800-$2300…those are the two main parts. Heat exchanger is another $600-$800…other parts such as pedal and wiring is around another $1500…still much cheaper than the average hellcat today. And the 6.4L would be even easier
If you have a paid off V6, trading for a use V8 will most likely leave you with a balance less than an engine swap. I’m trading mine for a 5.7 then I’ll be happy lol.
It’s all fun and games till y’all see me pull up in my hellcat swapped 2016 dart 😅
Khal_SRT put a hellcat engine and a demon engine in Chrysler 300s so anything is possible if you have the money
First question who put a v6 transmission on a v8 motor that’s wouldn’t make sense in any scenario
Get the motor trans and rear end and harness no problem
It easy to just drop a hellcat supper charger on a 5.7 or 6.4 Nd cheaper way cheaper
What about putting a 5.7 into a V6 3.5 charger se what I do have to change out in order to make the 5.7 fit
cheaper to trade
But I wonder if the fuel lines of a 392 the same as a hellcat?? 🤔
Hellcat fuel lines are bigger
Yeah I realized when I finally built my hellcat lol..
Put a hellcat transmission and hellcat diff swap from v6 duh
Even if it was from a totaled hellcat? Then swap everything?
How much for a 2006 Chrysler 300 SRT8 6.1 to a hellcar 6.2?
Prolly 20k
That was 3 years ago prices ….. now it way more for a hell cat or scat pack or any 392 . Also Rt’s are now 45k at dealership . Soooo what’s better ? Just buy a bicycle……
Just get the adapter for the supercharger and the supercharger. Set you back $10k-$12k but it’s cheaper than going this route.
Got it! I have a 2015 se, I'm trading in the car. I was told it would cost me 7k for a LS conversion and 7k to drop a 392 in with transmission upgrade, rear end up grade and a freaking drive shaft. Yep trading her in. I dont have funds sitting around like that
$7K for a full 392 driveline swap? In what world do you live in where that's a bad deal?
So you're going to trade it in and pay more 7k is good for a swap. Nothing is different from a hellcat to a se just a different motor transmission drive train
Now I'm seriously eyeing an upgrade for my project 2008 police pursuit charger. Hellcat police pursuit 2020? 🤔🤔
thats way more complicated, anything non vvt will be somewhat of a nightmare, 2011 and up is not that big of a deal
@@moparnation2235 Dang. That's sort of what my thoughts were, but I gave myself hope when I heard "5.7 or 6.4" haha.
@@enDo40k vvt versus non vvt, so 11 and newer
Yeah you won’t touch Hellcat for under $50,000 now. Another video said it cost him $7000 to transplant Hellcat motor into non Hellcat car. Now to pick up a reasonably priced R/T for $25000 or so then add $7000. Reasonably priced Hellcat but it’ll never be worth what real Hellcat will but still have the fun. Ok $7000 just made it look like Hellcat. What a waste.
I really really want this in my dodge magnum RT.
Be cheaper to insure a 5.7 swap than a hellcat on paper
What they don't know they don't know
anything can be done with enough money, but the question is, is it worth it?? and as a rule the answer is no, from a v8, its much simpler, with a v6 it is not easy and definitely not worth it
What if I have a full car
Can I just do all full transplant? Lol like literally just replace everything from the donor?
Every person has different financial problems and may take this route.
thanks for your honest sir .
Imma hellcat swap my kawasaki ninja 😂👌🏽
Patience is knowing and knowledge will only get you to point A to B. Just like the GPS to any shop with a lift and tools right. Imagination will take you anywhere son. Its not about money its about respect.
This man created a trx before they even came up with it lol
This is two years old information, with the shortage in vehicles. Try buying a hellcat for mid $40's
What if i have all the parts and just need the labor done how much will it be. (2019 charger r/t)
long list of parts, many not available and some some are custom made