Here's a potential 'gotcha' that I would hate to see anyone else go through. I had run a series of Heroic PLs and so it had been a while since I did an ER. I was running an Iconic and had decided to to an ER, run back to 30, and then IR. I was so used to clearing out my TR cache with every TR that I did so before the ER, and then had to do the run back to 30 with a severely limited backpack space. It did prompt me to sell/destroy a bunch of stuff that I knew I was never going to use anyway, but it was still a pain in the ass. I hope no one ever makes my mistake! You don't need to clear the TR cache for an ER or for a LR.
I am a new player to ddo. ty very much for the videos. i am currently using your true first life druid build. It Rocks. I am looking forward to more of you videos. Thx again.
When you Heroic True Reincarnate you can change gender. I just finished my 3rd sorc life as a male warforged and now am a female human druid, and the operation wasn't painful at all :) The only thing you retain is the name, so I bought a name change parchment. Keep up the great work on the guides!
I really like the skin colour of your drow! Guide was helpful as well! Just did my first ETR. Was confused for a while before I watched as google wasn't telling me where to buy the heart with heart seeds. ddo wiki/every other guide didn't mention you double click the seeds to bring up the buy menu Edit: My gearing situation was a complete clusterfuck lol, I had 3 pieces I could equip in my bank above level 10, and everything else was level 23-32 :) Definitely learned a lot my first reincarnation
Yes you keep all gear and wealth. You just start back at level 1 (or level 15 if you choose to play an iconic) and you get a free past life feat. Reincarnating is fun to play through a favorite toon again as a more powerful version. You also get extra build points after your first 2 reincarnations to a maximum of 36 build points.
Just a couple of things: 1. If you don't skip you can still do that at the port. The only difference is wether or not you have to do the Grotto (which can be interesting for your 2nd life if you need that Ring of Water Breathing). 2. For new players I would suggest doing only heroic TR until you're in your third life, after that always go to 30, ETR and HTR immediately. Going from 20 to 30 without first time bonuses is a lot tougher. 3. I missed some advice on helpful EPL feats. There's a lot of choice involved, even with your first ETR there are 3 or 6 possible feats to choose from. In addition your next life has a large influence on which sphere you will most likely work on, so you want to clear out karma in that sphere as to not waste any XP due to being at cap in your next life. So overall a great video, but I think with your experience you could add much more of your opinion and little tricks and hints you've acquired over the years to them.
Just NO about only HTR and nor ETR. For a couple of reasons: 1) it's not true is more difficult from 20 to 30. The xp necessary compared to what quests give is actually better, and dailes on EN give a whole bunch. Each and every day. *AND you will ALWAYS find a group for that*. Moreover, Epics is a whole different game *and new players need to see that*. Also, again, more groups available, smaller level constraint (if not at all), far lesser people yelling at you about broken bed&breakfast (BB) 2) epic past lives are FAR more powerful than heroics. Those, alone, can smooth the HE barrier quite a lot. Now, while older players might find the game too easy, for newer is too hard. Helping them make the game a little less hard is important, and EPLs do that.
Hey DrZ, thanks for the added info! I def could've included a lot more. It started as doing a request just to show the reincarnation process, and then morphed into more than that, and now I wish I had added a few more things, but I really just wanted it to be kind of an orientation to new folks that are intimidated by trying to reincarnate the first time XD
I think you're mostly thinking VIP with your first point, which is usually not what new players are. EDs and thus ETR only becomes available with MotU purchased and before purchasing that I would strongly advise any new player to play quite a bit, seeing wether or not they actually want to spend money on this game. True enough, one complete heroic life should be enough, but most of the times it's also worth it to wait for a sale on the expansion packs. Even with the expansions, a first lifer doesn't necessarily have the TP to invest in packs that make the epic progress easier. I see the merit of your points though, but I still vividly remember the first time hitting epic levels when my first life char simply wasn't up to task - bad equip, mediocre build, GH being the only epic pack - you feel you let your parties down. Besides, after my slow and meticulous first life I was already tired of my character and wanted a new one.^^ And grinding out tokens for HTR was brutally hard already, leveling seemed to be an immense obstacle back in the day. So yeah, it is not as clear cut as I put it in my first post. I have seen a couple of first lifers in the epic levels recently, and with their meager HP pools they often seemed miserable...
As a matter of fact, I started playing on late Nov/Dec 2015 (just before U29), as a ftp. I actually went VIP as of Dec 2016, but my first 3 EPLs (on my first 2 lives). Granted, I had the luck that christmas 2015 offered *both* the expansions for 12$, which are significantly less than any other option currently, but anyway, for all those epic lives, GH and VoN were the only things I ran multiple times, most my XP came from there. GH, VoN, LOD each and every day might make you tired, I get it, but I think running "Dungeons&Sewers" (65% of the low level quests are exactly the same) over and over without seeing much else is not a good way to introduce someone to the game.
If you're a life with a Druid or artificer life, make sure to unequip any gear your wolf or iron defender is wearing. Those items don't end up in your TR cache, so they will be lost. And you can change your sex now, yep
I've heard of the problem and I know it's documented. I personally have never experienced it and most of the time I didn't unequip my dog. Glad it never happened to me!
You can run the grotto quest and still get to the harbor and then come back and do the korthos quests, there is an NPC at the dock that will give you the choice to skip the korthos story line.
nope but reincarnation is fun and makes your toon more powerful. I would at least recommend reincarnating a toon you are serious about twice, so that you get it up to a 36 point build :-)
earlier this year i horribly messed up a character..i got my guy to 30..was going to epic tr then regular tr..i epic tr'ed and then i forgot i was iconic..so i was stuck back at 20..not very fun..
As I recall from my last TR, even if you take the Korthos storyline as a level one, you can still go down to the dock and talk to the ferrywoman and go to Stormreach and forgo the rest of the snowyside storyline altogether.
We all have that moment of uncertainty. :-p Made a character on Sarlona yesterday. So weird not having all the assets that I am used to having on Orien! But it seemed to be the best chance to sometime be able to run the Shroud with your training groups.
it's a whole different game when you're all alone on another server, without ship buffs, wealth, gear and past lives. I just went through that whole experience of DDO vertigo on Northwynd. I had fun with it though, as challenging as it was. I hope you will have fun on Sarlona and I hope to run with you in a raid some day! :-)
-grin- I agree! I miss my ship buffs most of all. I made a Morninglord on Sarlona because I level so slowly as a solo. With the level 15 start I may actually hit 20 by 2019. I was tempted to try to port over one of my 20s from Orien, but chose not to. Still might though.
I am level 13 now on Voodu so I'll be your level soon. I am doing mostly reaper 2-3's so might be tough on the first lifer, but you're welcome to send me a tell if you want to run when I catch you. I've been leveling at a rate of 1-2 levels per day. What is your toons name?
Augh, I'm so confused. I've watched this video 4 or 5 times and even took notes. You are right, blowing my favorite epic caped level-30 character back to level 1 is intimidating. So do I have this right: Step-1; use an Epic Heart of Wood to go back to level-20. Step-2; use an True Heart of Wood to back to level-1. All of my equipment goes into a special bank account that I can only withdraw from. Step-3; I have to grind my way back up to level-30? You said I get extra ability / build points? You also said I retain some Epic Destiny abilities? Any clarity you can provide would relieve my anxiety.
Hi Mark, I understand your anxiety, I remember being there too. I hope you will find as I did, that playing through your character again is even more rewarding the next go around. It sounds like you got it down but note that racial reincarnation came out after this video, so you might want to check out my short video How to Racial Reincarnate czcams.com/video/d21KBvvZWjE/video.html. The important difference for what you're doing is what you wrote as step 2. If you want a class past life then you would use a heart of WOOD. If you want a race past life instead, then you would use a heart of BLOOD. You should epic reincarnate back to 20 first, which gives you an epic past life that is usable at level 1. Then once you are at 20 you can then either use a heart of wood to heroic reincarnate for a class past life or racial reincarnate to get a racial past life. This works for standard races, not iconics. Alternatively, if you wanted, once you epic reincarnate back to 20, you could level up to 30 again from there and acquire another epic past life. You can just keep going from 20-30 to get epic past lives if you want. If this is your first reincarnation then you will get more build points for your ability scores when you re-make your character back at level 1. You will also have an epic past life in your feats list that you have to drag into a hotbar and activate the stance. Since you are new to reincarnation, you might also like another video that Nimvind and I made last year How to Prioritize Past Lives czcams.com/video/e8PZSvFmujA/video.html Good luck and have fun! :-)
Hi Will, this only matters for purposes of a heroic true reincarnation or icon reincarnation in which case you'll get the class past life for whatever class you have the most levels of. In the case of a tie, you'll get the class that is the "dominant" class, based on the rules indicated in the ddowiki article here ddowiki.com/page/Past_Life_Feats#Dominant_class Hope that helps :-)
@@vooduspyce Unfortunately, Twitch does not like my computer. I get maybe 3 fps. I have just gotten back into playing DDO. I have a character on Orien.
Okay, my next question: when I look at that diagram on the wiki, it says I have a choice of which Life feat I can get. Is that true, or must I be that dominate class to get that Past Life?
I got to epic forgot click one button and lost 9 epic levels of epic options ctrl-(r)(e), reincarnation +20 disaster (chose different options without the fresh experience of combat at every level), since then just build up hearts of wood uselessly. (DUSD, JCOM, PROZZA, Aztak) thank you for the video, talk faster and stick to "get to the point please" cause it's fiction in the end.
This information is relevant enough for someone who is new to reincarnation. There is another video in the description that shows how to racial reincarnate, which is the same process as heroic true reincarnation (class reincarnation) except a Heart of Blood is used for racial reincarnation. I welcome you to stop by the livestream M-F 9am-3pm ET if you have any questions 🙂 www.twitch.tv/vooduspyce
yup. Any time you make an iconic toon, you get the 1 default level. You can use a LR +1 heart to change the level out, but prob not worth it unless you're doing a final life build.
You can reincarnate an unlimited number of times but you can only benefit from 3 of each race/class/iconic/epic past life. So if someone had every possible past life, then that would be I believe 123 past lives.
ty, last but not least, do you keep your past lifes old class talent spec passives and actives when you reincarnate, like if your a palemaster, do you keep your skeley knight?
no, nothing like that. Every class, race, iconic and epic destiny has a specific past life feat associated with it. Each past life by itself gives a relatively small bonus, but it becomes more significant when they start to stack up and add up. You can check out a list of all the past life feats in the Feats link at ddowiki.com. I'd give you the direct link here but ddowiki appears to be down atm, which is odd. I've never seen it down before.
oh, ty for explaining, but that leaves me with one question, whats the whole making a character to X level then changing them to class B to have both classes, while also having abilities from said previous class? i thought that was what the reincarnation process entailed?
Reincarnation is about starting over with something new. In doing so, you only get a free feat that basically represents a remnant of knowledge carried over from your previous life. For example a sorcerer past life gives you +1 to evocation DC's and +20 spell points, which can stack up to 3 past lives for +3 to evocation and +60 spell points. No other sorcerer abilities are carried over, just the past life feat of +1 evo and +20sp per sorc pl up to 3. Looks like ddowiki is back up. Here's the link to the feats page and you'll see a link for the different past life feats in the upper right corner ddowiki.com/page/Feats
this stuff is insane.... way to much crap to track.... I played DDO from the very start and only hit 20 a hand full of times.. then I just quit... I spose this game is worth playing if you have people to hang with other wise its a very lonely game....
Here's a potential 'gotcha' that I would hate to see anyone else go through. I had run a series of Heroic PLs and so it had been a while since I did an ER. I was running an Iconic and had decided to to an ER, run back to 30, and then IR.
I was so used to clearing out my TR cache with every TR that I did so before the ER, and then had to do the run back to 30 with a severely limited backpack space. It did prompt me to sell/destroy a bunch of stuff that I knew I was never going to use anyway, but it was still a pain in the ass. I hope no one ever makes my mistake!
You don't need to clear the TR cache for an ER or for a LR.
I am a new player to ddo. ty very much for the videos. i am currently using your true first life druid build. It Rocks. I am looking forward to more of you videos. Thx again.
Hey Paul, glad you're liking the vids and the druid. Thanks for saying and welcome to DDO! :-)
When you Heroic True Reincarnate you can change gender. I just finished my 3rd sorc life as a male warforged and now am a female human druid, and the operation wasn't painful at all :) The only thing you retain is the name, so I bought a name change parchment.
Keep up the great work on the guides!
Thanks Jim :-)
I really like the skin colour of your drow!
Guide was helpful as well! Just did my first ETR.
Was confused for a while before I watched as google wasn't telling me where to buy the heart with heart seeds. ddo wiki/every other guide didn't mention you double click the seeds to bring up the buy menu
Edit: My gearing situation was a complete clusterfuck lol, I had 3 pieces I could equip in my bank above level 10, and everything else was level 23-32 :)
Definitely learned a lot my first reincarnation
Hey Adam, I'm glad this was helpful, ty for saying :-)
Just a point of interest: If you have a stack of something in your TR cache, you are able to add to that stack.
oh nice, I didn't know that :-D
I found out quite by accident, when trying to add to a stack of jump +20 pots. As long as the stack is not maxed, you can add to it.
Thanks for this, I was curious about it and really didn't know how or why to do it.
So basically in reincarnation you get to keep all your gear and coins ? If so im down for that.
Yes you keep all gear and wealth. You just start back at level 1 (or level 15 if you choose to play an iconic) and you get a free past life feat. Reincarnating is fun to play through a favorite toon again as a more powerful version. You also get extra build points after your first 2 reincarnations to a maximum of 36 build points.
Just a couple of things:
1. If you don't skip you can still do that at the port. The only difference is wether or not you have to do the Grotto (which can be interesting for your 2nd life if you need that Ring of Water Breathing).
2. For new players I would suggest doing only heroic TR until you're in your third life, after that always go to 30, ETR and HTR immediately. Going from 20 to 30 without first time bonuses is a lot tougher.
3. I missed some advice on helpful EPL feats. There's a lot of choice involved, even with your first ETR there are 3 or 6 possible feats to choose from. In addition your next life has a large influence on which sphere you will most likely work on, so you want to clear out karma in that sphere as to not waste any XP due to being at cap in your next life.
So overall a great video, but I think with your experience you could add much more of your opinion and little tricks and hints you've acquired over the years to them.
Just NO about only HTR and nor ETR. For a couple of reasons:
1) it's not true is more difficult from 20 to 30. The xp necessary compared to what quests give is actually better, and dailes on EN give a whole bunch. Each and every day. *AND you will ALWAYS find a group for that*.
Moreover, Epics is a whole different game *and new players need to see that*. Also, again, more groups available, smaller level constraint (if not at all), far lesser people yelling at you about broken bed&breakfast (BB)
2) epic past lives are FAR more powerful than heroics. Those, alone, can smooth the HE barrier quite a lot. Now, while older players might find the game too easy, for newer is too hard. Helping them make the game a little less hard is important, and EPLs do that.
Hey DrZ, thanks for the added info! I def could've included a lot more. It started as doing a request just to show the reincarnation process, and then morphed into more than that, and now I wish I had added a few more things, but I really just wanted it to be kind of an orientation to new folks that are intimidated by trying to reincarnate the first time XD
I think you're mostly thinking VIP with your first point, which is usually not what new players are. EDs and thus ETR only becomes available with MotU purchased and before purchasing that I would strongly advise any new player to play quite a bit, seeing wether or not they actually want to spend money on this game. True enough, one complete heroic life should be enough, but most of the times it's also worth it to wait for a sale on the expansion packs.
Even with the expansions, a first lifer doesn't necessarily have the TP to invest in packs that make the epic progress easier.
I see the merit of your points though, but I still vividly remember the first time hitting epic levels when my first life char simply wasn't up to task - bad equip, mediocre build, GH being the only epic pack - you feel you let your parties down. Besides, after my slow and meticulous first life I was already tired of my character and wanted a new one.^^ And grinding out tokens for HTR was brutally hard already, leveling seemed to be an immense obstacle back in the day.
So yeah, it is not as clear cut as I put it in my first post. I have seen a couple of first lifers in the epic levels recently, and with their meager HP pools they often seemed miserable...
As a matter of fact, I started playing on late Nov/Dec 2015 (just before U29), as a ftp. I actually went VIP as of Dec 2016, but my first 3 EPLs (on my first 2 lives).
Granted, I had the luck that christmas 2015 offered *both* the expansions for 12$, which are significantly less than any other option currently, but anyway, for all those epic lives, GH and VoN were the only things I ran multiple times, most my XP came from there. GH, VoN, LOD each and every day might make you tired, I get it, but I think running "Dungeons&Sewers" (65% of the low level quests are exactly the same) over and over without seeing much else is not a good way to introduce someone to the game.
If you're a life with a Druid or artificer life, make sure to unequip any gear your wolf or iron defender is wearing. Those items don't end up in your TR cache, so they will be lost. And you can change your sex now, yep
I've heard of the problem and I know it's documented. I personally have never experienced it and most of the time I didn't unequip my dog. Glad it never happened to me!
You can run the grotto quest and still get to the harbor and then come back and do the korthos quests, there is an NPC at the dock that will give you the choice to skip the korthos story line.
Is there any major drawback if I never reincarnate. All gameplay is still available to me right?
nope but reincarnation is fun and makes your toon more powerful. I would at least recommend reincarnating a toon you are serious about twice, so that you get it up to a 36 point build :-)
earlier this year i horribly messed up a character..i got my guy to 30..was going to epic tr then regular tr..i epic tr'ed and then i forgot i was iconic..so i was stuck back at 20..not very fun..
I bet a lot of people have done that :-(
As I recall from my last TR, even if you take the Korthos storyline as a level one, you can still go down to the dock and talk to the ferrywoman and go to Stormreach and forgo the rest of the snowyside storyline altogether.
You are right. I couldn't remember XD
We all have that moment of uncertainty. :-p
Made a character on Sarlona yesterday. So weird not having all the assets that I am used to having on Orien! But it seemed to be the best chance to sometime be able to run the Shroud with your training groups.
it's a whole different game when you're all alone on another server, without ship buffs, wealth, gear and past lives. I just went through that whole experience of DDO vertigo on Northwynd. I had fun with it though, as challenging as it was. I hope you will have fun on Sarlona and I hope to run with you in a raid some day! :-)
-grin- I agree! I miss my ship buffs most of all. I made a Morninglord on Sarlona because I level so slowly as a solo. With the level 15 start I may actually hit 20 by 2019. I was tempted to try to port over one of my 20s from Orien, but chose not to. Still might though.
I am level 13 now on Voodu so I'll be your level soon. I am doing mostly reaper 2-3's so might be tough on the first lifer, but you're welcome to send me a tell if you want to run when I catch you. I've been leveling at a rate of 1-2 levels per day. What is your toons name?
Augh, I'm so confused. I've watched this video 4 or 5 times and even took notes. You are right, blowing my favorite epic caped level-30 character back to level 1 is intimidating. So do I have this right: Step-1; use an Epic Heart of Wood to go back to level-20. Step-2; use an True Heart of Wood to back to level-1. All of my equipment goes into a special bank account that I can only withdraw from. Step-3; I have to grind my way back up to level-30? You said I get extra ability / build points? You also said I retain some Epic Destiny abilities? Any clarity you can provide would relieve my anxiety.
Hi Mark,
I understand your anxiety, I remember being there too. I hope you will find as I did, that playing through your character again is even more rewarding the next go around. It sounds like you got it down but note that racial reincarnation came out after this video, so you might want to check out my short video How to Racial Reincarnate czcams.com/video/d21KBvvZWjE/video.html.
The important difference for what you're doing is what you wrote as step 2. If you want a class past life then you would use a heart of WOOD. If you want a race past life instead, then you would use a heart of BLOOD. You should epic reincarnate back to 20 first, which gives you an epic past life that is usable at level 1. Then once you are at 20 you can then either use a heart of wood to heroic reincarnate for a class past life or racial reincarnate to get a racial past life. This works for standard races, not iconics. Alternatively, if you wanted, once you epic reincarnate back to 20, you could level up to 30 again from there and acquire another epic past life. You can just keep going from 20-30 to get epic past lives if you want.
If this is your first reincarnation then you will get more build points for your ability scores when you re-make your character back at level 1. You will also have an epic past life in your feats list that you have to drag into a hotbar and activate the stance.
Since you are new to reincarnation, you might also like another video that Nimvind and I made last year How to Prioritize Past Lives czcams.com/video/e8PZSvFmujA/video.html
Good luck and have fun! :-)
Question on re-incarnation. Which past life does a multiclass character get ?
Hi Will, this only matters for purposes of a heroic true reincarnation or icon reincarnation in which case you'll get the class past life for whatever class you have the most levels of. In the case of a tie, you'll get the class that is the "dominant" class, based on the rules indicated in the ddowiki article here ddowiki.com/page/Past_Life_Feats#Dominant_class
Hope that helps :-)
@@vooduspyce thank you.
@@wilturvey9029 np, I welcome you to stop by the live stream some time if you have more questions or just to hang out :-)
www.twitch.tv/vooduspyce
@@vooduspyce Unfortunately, Twitch does not like my computer. I get maybe 3 fps. I have just gotten back into playing DDO. I have a character on Orien.
@@wilturvey9029 cool wb! :-D
For Past Life feats, are they restricted for the toon that reincarnates, or are they account/server wide?
PL feats apply only to the toon that reincarnated.
Okay, my next question: when I look at that diagram on the wiki, it says I have a choice of which Life feat I can get. Is that true, or must I be that dominate class to get that Past Life?
I got to epic forgot click one button and lost 9 epic levels of epic options ctrl-(r)(e), reincarnation +20 disaster (chose different options without the fresh experience of combat at every level), since then just build up hearts of wood uselessly. (DUSD, JCOM, PROZZA, Aztak) thank you for the video, talk faster and stick to "get to the point please" cause it's fiction in the end.
this is really out of date. Amyone know of something current?
This information is relevant enough for someone who is new to reincarnation. There is another video in the description that shows how to racial reincarnate, which is the same process as heroic true reincarnation (class reincarnation) except a Heart of Blood is used for racial reincarnation. I welcome you to stop by the livestream M-F 9am-3pm ET if you have any questions 🙂
www.twitch.tv/vooduspyce
If you tr into an iconic, are you still stuck with that first level class?
yup. Any time you make an iconic toon, you get the 1 default level. You can use a LR +1 heart to change the level out, but prob not worth it unless you're doing a final life build.
ok thanks
how many times can you reincarnate in total on one character?
You can reincarnate an unlimited number of times but you can only benefit from 3 of each race/class/iconic/epic past life. So if someone had every possible past life, then that would be I believe 123 past lives.
ty, last but not least, do you keep your past lifes old class talent spec passives and actives when you reincarnate, like if your a palemaster, do you keep your skeley knight?
no, nothing like that. Every class, race, iconic and epic destiny has a specific past life feat associated with it. Each past life by itself gives a relatively small bonus, but it becomes more significant when they start to stack up and add up. You can check out a list of all the past life feats in the Feats link at ddowiki.com. I'd give you the direct link here but ddowiki appears to be down atm, which is odd. I've never seen it down before.
oh, ty for explaining, but that leaves me with one question, whats the whole making a character to X level then changing them to class B to have both classes, while also having abilities from said previous class? i thought that was what the reincarnation process entailed?
Reincarnation is about starting over with something new. In doing so, you only get a free feat that basically represents a remnant of knowledge carried over from your previous life. For example a sorcerer past life gives you +1 to evocation DC's and +20 spell points, which can stack up to 3 past lives for +3 to evocation and +60 spell points. No other sorcerer abilities are carried over, just the past life feat of +1 evo and +20sp per sorc pl up to 3.
Looks like ddowiki is back up. Here's the link to the feats page and you'll see a link for the different past life feats in the upper right corner ddowiki.com/page/Feats
this stuff is insane.... way to much crap to track.... I played DDO from the very start and only hit 20 a hand full of times.. then I just quit... I spose this game is worth playing if you have people to hang with other wise its a very lonely game....
it's the people that make it for me. I would've left a long time ago if I hadn't found a good bunch.