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I do not like driving for LYFT. LYFT advertises $8 bonus every ride everywhere. When you stop driving and notice your bonus has not been added. You contact LYFT to inquire about your bonus payment they act as though they cannot see the bonus on your account. They say you are outside the zone and bonus hour. No one would accept low balling rides with no bonus. I have been driving for over 6 hours and I haven't even made $100! This is poverty and I will be letting other drivers know about this!
I quit uber about a year ago once I figured out that Uber was stealing my tips. Lyft ain't great either, I'm currently building a business that will get me out of this unprofitable driveshare scam permanently. I suggest you make a plan to actually have a life.
No offense as this is not meant to be a negative response but the reason you feel that way is because you’re depending on Uber/Lyft too much When these companies started, they were never intended for people to use full-time and pay their bills/raise their family/buying houses … they were designed to use as extra work on the side to make some extra money or pick up a ride here and there when you were going to a certain location Start networking with your passengers and get involved and some other type of work that you can offer them while you were talking to them and also start asking if they take Uber frequently and try to see if those rides make sense to you to offer them private ride service Which pays 2 to 3 times more than what the Uber Ride will pay you Good luck out there
@@UberDriverChat Totally agree. Nobody is forcing anyone to do this work. If you feel like a slave, quit. I love driving for Lyft but note I am not depending on this for my full-time job. I do it to make extra money.
I drive for Lyft part-time for extra for extra money. I would never do this as strictly full-time employment. Customers can lie and literally get you deactivated. I've seen it happen on few occasions to drivers. The customer 's favorite lie is the driver was under the influence.
I'm driving for both. Like you, I can't stand the constant trip radar requests, and the destination filter for going home is a joke. This morning, Uber said going 15 minutes in the wrong direction was on my way home! Lyft also has its issues. This morning, my rider was going from her hotel to a restaurant. It was a $5.75 trip. After we left the pickup spot, she added a second destination, the airport, which was in the opposite direction. So my ride distance and time DOUBLED, and Lyft did not adjust my fare at all. I complained multiple times via the app and kept getting the same responses. It was so infuriating. They finally got tired of me and gave me $5 as a "one time courtesy". lol... Bottom line, I've found Uber passengers tip more frequently, so that ends up being a bit more lucrative.
@@ricky4673 It depends o nthe area youdrive. Here, Lyft has about 80% of the business, and Uber doesn't even do upfront fees or show you the pax destination until after you pick the pax up.
Definitely! Uber riders tip and tip big on everyone of my rides and I've done over 4k rides in 6 months! Uber is a better program for what I am looking for.
Living in Houston TX, I have worked for ride-sharing companies.They don’t pay you! The pay is so low that it doesn’t even cover the gas and the depreciation cost of the car. It’s a scam! For a $9.25 ride, would you drive for 45 minutes, wasting gas and depreciating your car (tires, oil, maintenance, adding all those miles), and on top of that, at the end of the year, you pay 25-30% in taxes? So if we do the math, you made $4.5 in 45 minutes. It’s a scam; steer clear of them.
I guess it’s just time to focus on getting a real job, I mean I have a real job but was thinking about signing up to be a Lyft driver but seeing everybody say this about ride share companies , yeah I’m just gonna focus on looking for a better job than the one I am already at. 😂
Worst part about lyft is that they force you to call in order to cancel AND that they block you from texting if you're going more than 5mph. I can't stand that feature.
I hate that too. You'd think by now they would have poked their heads out of the office to find out about speech to text features on smartphones, and do away with that annoyance. Also, the "LIMIT TAPS" warning is another pisser. Sometimes, I just need to unzoom the mapp so I can get a better idea of where the pax is going - because their mapping sux too - and the "Limit Taps" warning pops up repeatedly. It's more of a driving distraction than just letting me use the maps like I want to.
@@DougRenz I've been wondering about that too. If a rider cancels on me while on Lyft, there is no notification or anything. I'll find out by looking at my GPS map and seeing that at some point they canceled without me ever being notified of it. Last time it happened I was on my way to pick up a reservation for a ride to the airport.
I use Lyft more too. I like that most rides are closer to you than Uber trying to send you out for miles to the pick up. Uber’s trip radar is like a baby that won’t stop crying and I’m tired of being the baby sitter. I don’t know how they thought this was a good idea or how they get away with this feature legally
I drive for both and I hate that radar with a passion because I could sit there for a half an hour and 15 radar request come through and I hit them all and get none of them. That’s why I’ve started driving Uber lessand Lyft more.
That’s weird as I get the majority of the trip radar request that I accept… What is your acceptance rate/driver rating/cancellation rate by the way how to curiosity
Thats my experience as well. Cheaper more problematic riders, no tips. Had 2 problem riders in one week, and I've not even done many Lyft rides. Over 2.5K rides with Uber and never had any problems. But I also drive daytime only.
@@highvolumeswearer No I noticed it on the pay breakdown. The ride request amount didn't match the actual pay for the ride. When I called them on it, they stopped doing it.
I always use Stay in Area. I stay in the suburbs but I set my radius at 10. Also, if my “Last Ride” is at the maximum miles (10) I change to “Head to Destination” with my home as the destination.
@@UberDriverChat As I’m retired and only drive weekdays, 1:00 pm to 5:00 pm and I try to make $20/hr. Most days I make it and some days it’s more like $15/hr.
Yes Lyft pays per ride better than Uber, but. In my area at least one can't stay busy enough with just Lyft. It's one $10 lyft ride vs 3 or 4 $5 Uber rides
I’m on the beta tester and they’re now displaying approximate how much per mile is the trip. After you finish the ride, in the trip detail, it gives you both upfront and actual info of the cost per mile.
I agree. i drove for Uber For 3 years but I hardly ever use Uber anymore. I dont get upfront fares with Uber and when I do a trip the fare is very low. Also passengers are very unhappy with Uber so there are a lot more rides with Lyft. Where I'm at Uber trip may be once an hour.
geez, I drove through Dallas last night 6pm and Uber pinged me within 5 seconds of a decline trip....I declined them all so that meant my phone was blowing up with a new ping every 10 seconds along with the Trip Radar pings...I just turned it off till I was further into the suburbs...I really don't like my car smelling of drugs and alcohol with NO chance of tips.
*Lyft is much more transparent. *Lyft is busier in my market(Tampa) *less instant cashout. *the $8 bonus hours per ride when they are offered. *longer offer time * Kick back when I don't get my 70%. The bad* *People are cheap on Lyft. Less tips. *Airport rides aren't as profitable, and the Lyft's version of trip radar at the airport pay is garbage and not as many as Uber. * I'll get more ride offers(trip radar) at the airport from Uber. I do give Lyft rides at rhe airport but not as much
Must be a highly "depends on your market" thing. But lyft better than uber... uh, don't think so. They're both horrible. In my market (Tampa Bay, FL) lyft pay sucks donkey balls. As bad as uber is, lyft's pay offers run 20%-30% less than uber offers for similar time/miles. On those rare instances where you can stack several of lyft's bonuses... that just gets you back to about the same as uber's base pay. Yeah, sure, lyft's driver app has a couple quality of life features that are nicer for drivers. But you can't pay your rent or buy groceries with "nicer" app features.
Seriously I worked yesterday in Tampa made 43 bucks in 3 active hours the other two hours nothing totaled 5 external fees are just to high there base rate is as much or more it’s ridiculous I gave up they think it’s cool to screw drivers sooner or later theses companies are gonna crash and I can’t wait to see that.
I’ve noticed Lyft giving lots of, pretty much weekly, “ride challenges”. You’re given an option of three “tiers”, the more required rides the larger the monetary bonus. I pick one and then setup a “stay within area” filter. It allows me to complete the rides I need in a decent amount of time and even though the rides are relatively short I still make money and get a the bonus within the allotted amount of days. It adds up and I end the week always making my earnings goal.
I was using both in Tampa. I got too many entitled drivers from Uber and reported me to where my tier ranking plummeted so I quit in 2023 for lyft. Lyft has been horrible to where as of late, the payout and entitled drivers made my hob less fulfilling and as of this week, I quit Lyft for lack of rides and pay
Yeah I only made $36k last year, 26k miles.. and still owed the IRS over $1,300.. avg american car avg's around 25mpg. (I have a hybrid that gets around 50mpg, but they cost more etc so lets just stick to the national avg for comparisons).. At 5$/gal, Thats about 5.2k a year on gas alone, add a set of tires and we're now up to around 6k in expenses, now you gotta factor in oil changes, fluids, car washes, all the extra dents and dings and scratches, depreciation.. (my corolla depreciated over 7K in one year, it was a new car and thats bound to happen the newer your car is).. but yeah, if your car cost more than $20-30k, you'll most likely be working for that car and nothing else. .. So on $36k a year, ur lucky to walk away with $25k of that.. avg rent is $1,900mth here, so thats 25k-$22.8k. I'd have walked away with $2,200 last year. (Obviously I couldnt afford an avg place here, so i rent a room for a pretty 'sweet deal'.. but I understand not every one has an awesome 'sweet deal'), so it seems like unless you're in a major major city, you're just going to be working for your car.
@@rogerwilco1777and you didnt get wc insurance, regular insurance, or car insurance or time off. Infact adding those real costs means your in the hole. They are duping people.
@@rogerwilco1777 You're playing the victim here but this doesn't add up. You averaged over $1.38 per mile for an entire work year? That suggests that you were highly selective with your rides, meaning your low wages are actually partially your own fault. 26000 miles also seems like a pretty low amount for a full time driver. Also how did you end up owing so much in taxes? Your mileage is equal to an $18000 tax deduction all on its own (assuming the current standard mileage rate). There is no way in hell you owed over $19000 in taxes on your Uber income.
@@nikidelvalle I agree with you… Most people don’t treat this as a business and anyone who owes money in taxes at the end of the year didn’t understand the first rule of thumb which is put $100-$200 a week away for any type of future expenses/repairs/taxes, etc…. even less in his situation as he was only driving part time I’ve been driving four days a week for the past two years and it makes perfect sense to me and I’m profiting $65,000 a year after grossing $80,000 and still have money in the bank that I put away every week
@@michaelanderson8421 I’m with you on that as my numbers are very similar if not better at times here in the southern California area… Most drivers don’t have a strategy and end up just taking the crappy rides that come along and then complaining about them in the end Also, I believe that acceptance rate/driver rating/cancellation rate have a lot to do with the rides that come through as it only makes sense or why would they even have those statistics?
@@UberDriverChat If acceptance rate plays into your offers then how are you suppose to maximize profits by not accepting crappy rides? It would turn into a vicious circle...not accepting shitty rides turns into not getting hardly any good rides cause I decline the crappy rides giving you a low acceptance rate and therefore low acceptance leads to less good pings
@@Jason-mp6yj I understand where you’re coming from… I seem to do pretty well and my acceptance rate is 35%… Whereas some people have a 5% to 10% acceptance rate … what is yours by the way as well as your cancellation rate and driver rating if you don’t mind me asking
@@UberDriverChatI drive for Lyft and almost always use destination mode without really needing it so unless a ride is heading in the set direction, I get to see most of the available rides in my area which is where I cherry pick the most lucrative ones!
Lyft is a VERY crooked, unorganized company. They also don’t have a customer service number to be able to call which is MANDATORY to be able to serve the drivers efficiently.
Wridz & Yride are the future of rideshare. They are both subscription models & you keep 100% of the fare. Uber/Lyft are dying, and it's only a matter of time
I agree I’m Lyft all day!! Huge improvements and a lot better money less nonsense still not perfect but they are definitely taking steps in the better direction.
REALLY GREAT VIDEO! I both agree and disagree with some points though. My experience multi-platforming is that UBER upfront fares can be better than Lyft. But the key is to accept only the rides that are worth it. UBER RESERVATIONS and airport rides can be significantly more. But at least in Los Angeles, the time to review an offer request on UBER is not 10 seconds… it is often 3 seconds and sometimes 2, meaning I go to accept and it disappear!!! (Providing no time to review an offer should be illegal… don’t they know that we’re often driving when a request comes in? Lyft is definitely better in that regard, but Lyft definitely changed the trip radar so now it brings up a confusing new screen with multiple rides and very fine print that’s hard to read. The old way was better because you could see the info on the main map for just the ride you were wanting to check out, etc. Also, without bonuses, my pay has gone from $35-$45/hr to $18 - $25 / hr… before expenses, meaning rideshare is no longer a profitable business for drivers. I keep trying to find ways to make up for the loss of bonuses, but only taking the higher paying rides often means I end up exhausted and hours away from home. The destination filters on UBER are completely useless. Both apps don’t care about driver fatigue. Lyft gives ZERO warnings about being kicked off the app nor any info of when you can start driving again. UBER is so much better in the regard. Also. both UBER & Lyft are no longer paying that much more, if anything, for comfort rides. It’s inexcusable that they don’t tell us about changes that affect our livelihood, treat us a slaves, etc. (They both say QUESTS and Ride Challenges are offered “periodically”, but that’s hard to fathom or believe… is my landlord going to allow me to pay the rent periodically?
I do both but, like you, I'm doing Lyft for all the reasons you stated PLUS Lyft still charges $0.85 to cash out and Uber started charging $1.25!!! Ummm, yeah, ok, whatever Uber! I'm strictly doing Lyft!!!
I had a choice to choose some bonus money next week on Lyft. The general consensus with all my riders is eveyone prefers Lyft. Still just want to see the ratio change.
Same in my area (McAllen, Texas). Uber doesn't even want to do business here. In 7 years, I've never even seen a streak bonus or received one of those elusive "pickup premiums" they try to entice us with by saying "likely". And because I can't see what Uber is offering, on long pickups, I leave the Lyft app on while I'm heading toward the Uber pax. If anything decent comes through on Lyft, I'll cancel the Uber and take the sure thing on Lyft. In this sense, Uber is making a big mistake by NOT listening to drivers.
Your experience, your opinion.. Neither service is exceptional in any way. With Lyft, there's virtually no customer service. And with Uber, customer service has been coached to handle situations in a way that will be of benefit to the organization alone.
That also depends on the market area. I am in the Kansas City area and I can honestly say that there is more traffic on Uber here than there is on Lyft
I would have to agree with you on a lot of things you pointed out. I do in fact drive both Uber and Lyft. I don't drive Uber as much because the ride challenges that are sent to me are ridiculous. Like most of the challenges are for 30 rides for $5. And I notice there's barely any surge within my area. I tried to turn the app on for Uber;but the rides are priced far too low on Uber. So,I just keep the Uber app off completely. On Lyft,I noticed I'm getting paid a little more than what Uber is playing for the rides itself. I still see surge within my area and I'm also getting bonus and turbo to help earn a little more money. I do like the fact their trip radar on Lyft doesn't constantly beep at you how Uber does. I feel like Uber is becoming an app that's becoming very frustrating because of the annoying trip radar. And because they keep sending shitty pay rides at you.
This is so spot on and I am doing the exact same thing. Driving Lyft is much better than Uber now. Uber has no bonus or incentives for me to drive for them. Plus that having to wait that 7 minutes on Uber to cancel sucks.
Lyft offered me a 60% bonus from 7:00am - 8:00am today. It’s peak morning driving for me and I always get rides. Within that hour I got no requests because that 60% is passed onto the driver. No only is it bad but I lost money because no rides came in.
Great video. I would push back a little bit. Whether Uber or Lyft is better with pay is market specific. Yes some of the Lyft tools are better. But in my market Lyft pay is straight trash. And don't accept their 70% after fees framing. Why? Because their "fees" trip to trip vary so much that it is meaningless.
My experience is the same. I prefer Lyft for exactly the same reasons. Pretty much done with Uber though there is more work. I love the destination filters on Lyft. Uber’s destination filters are worse than useless.
Mostly not true… At least not here in N. Florida. Uber is horrific, but Lyft is even worse. When you set “stay in area,” the bonuses magically disappear. And I’m in one of the most popular and busiest tourist areas in the nation. Long trips routinely pay .40-.50 per mile. Those are undrivable. Short trips are just as bad. Turbo is useless unless it is >30%. And if it is high what do they do? THEY DON’T GIVE YOU ANY RIDES. This way it keeps you from doing Uber, which is their actual goal. When Turbo is high, (if you get a ping) the rides are long pickups and average out to about .70 per mile. Not even enough to cover the cost of ownership and operation of a vehicle. The “70% guarantee” is also bullshit… and you should know better. Yes, they have expenses… SO DO WE! So their expenses get paid first after deducting mystery fees, then we get 70% of what’s left? In what universe is that fair?? Please don’t shill for these monsters. I’ve been driving 9 years in various markets and both platforms suck. But Lyft is much worse than Uber in every way… making it just about undrivable.
I live in PHILADELPHIA and I always drive with Uber but since a couple of months Uber is not paying good for trips anymore they taking more than 50% and long rides don't pay nothing is not worth it drive with Uber anymore
Question: Insurance.. If you can show proof that you have full coverage plus ride share coverage insurance are they going to still take out money -> Est.external Fees Est Commercial auto insurance & other expenses..
Exactly. Picked someone up yesterday during rush hour and he was like, "Wow, the price jumped." I told him that the drivers don't get a piece of it, it's Uber taking advantage of the rush hour. Your being charged $20 but I'm getting $8. Pax was a former Uber driver, he wanted to get back into it, so I told him to rent a car from a local rental company that is connected to Uber. The trip to the rental is free, but he has to first book the rental through the app. If anything, he gets a car to get around, just work Uber to cover the rental
It’s simple… It’s called supplying demand… They will price the ride as the most possible that a passenger will pay and price the ride to the driver as to the lowest price he will take it for Pretty soon, people are going to be complaining that McDonald’s only pays a dollar to make the big Mac that they sell for six dollars😂
I'm pretty new to all of this, about four months, but from what I've seen so far Lyft is definitely the superior platform. I really like their destination platform, and I also seem to get more riders tipping me. The 70% guarantee is terrific and I got my first one a week or two ago. However, unless I misunderstand it, tips are included in the computation of whether you reached 70% or not. If I'm reading it correctly I don't think that is fair, because tips are not a part of Lyft's fare but rather a gift to us from our passengers. That said, the guarantee is still superior to what the competition offers. I'll still use both because Uber has provided me with excellent reservation opportunities, and quite often with a follow up reservation that is close to the destination of the first reservation.
Lyft cannot keep me busy in Boston. Uber can plus Uber has XXL now and I do quite a few of those. BUT - Uber bonus's completely suck now. Lyft does have a much better bonus system.
Better pay from Lyft must be entirely dependent upon market. In my market (OC, CA) I usually get a never-ending string of minimum paying, $2.40 rides on Friday and Saturday nights. I've been waking up at Oh Dark Thirty the past few days to compare morning prices since my school job will be ending in a couple weeks and Lyft *does* offer me way more airport runs to ONT/SNA/LAX/LGB. I think Uber is holding a grudge because my acceptance rate is so low (10%). I haven't even been offered an LAX run in over a year and it's been since October or so since I've been offered a reserved ride aside from any that are missed by whomever *DID* accept it.
Thanks Joe! I am also a Twin Cities driver like you and everything you said I concure 💯 But I don't multi platform. I have over 4,400 rides as a Lyft driver. And 5 for Uber 🤣
Couple of years ago a young lady falsely accused me of being racism because I refused to give her ride, she had a little baby with her and she didn’t have a car seat and refused to give her the ride. Unfortunately I didn’t have a dashcam to prove that she was lying. Is there any way that I can reactivate my Lyft account?
For me this is pretty true, i started last year on the 1st july, by mid August id only done like 118 rides on lyft and I stopped driving for them all together. I lost my car in January and at that point i had about 1500 rides on uber and only the 118 on lyft. I replaced my car finally on February 22nd, when i got back to work it had flipped, uber pay had gotten even worse than it was when i stopped driving and lyft was paying better and were offering better bonuses. I switched over for the most part. Weekends at bar close i use Uber, the fares are MUCH higher and i can get good paying further rides, Lyft throws lower paying short rides. By bar close im anxious to get out of downtown, i can do my longer ride in the same amount of time as the shorter distance rides cause im able to get out of the higher traffic or construction areas. The issue i have with lyft is, their riders dont tip nearly as much as uber. Uber i average about 80-85% of my pax tipping, lyft im lucky to hit 25% of my pax tipping. Now that advantage/standard mode have launched in austin im quitting driving all together. I refuse to take rides that dont meet my minimum requirements for pay and passenger rating, i will never make myself do rides that make sense just to meet their metric requirements, so im forced into standard mode and only get radar requests, the only exclusive offers i get are for share rides.
I agree with these reasons. More reasons I prefer lyft now is no acceptance rate or cancelation rate. My area is still busy enough that I usually will get another ride pretty quickly if I cancel. I have found that I can get 3 to 8 more rides in a day if I only wait for a rider for 2 to 3 minutes before I cancel the ride. Waiting the extra time for a low cancelation fee is not worth it to me, especially on a $4 to $5 ride. When I cancel after 2 to 3 minutes I almost always get a better paying ride within a minute or two. I make more by taking the loss on the time and distance I traveled to a rider that isn't ready then I would by losing the time waiting for them. Also it is in the worst sections in my area that the riders make me wait the longest. It is not safe for me to be park in these areas.
ahh - it all depends man. Some rich people are horrible but most are great. Some ghetto people are a problem but most of them are great. Same goes for kids. Some of the parents of rich kids clearly raised them correctly based on how they behave in a car. In fact, kids (high school and below - not college students) behave better than adults in my experience. lol I one time picked up these freshmen high school white girls and this one chick asked me "What"s my age?" I replied 26 at the time and she was shocked and said "You look like you are our age which is 14." - College students are the worst if they are drinking but not all of them.
I feel the pay is crap on both apps. I drive a luxury car and I used to count on getting maybe 1 or 2 Lux requests with Lyft. Those would boost my income for the day significantly. Then Lyft did away with the Lux option. Uber still offers Premier, which is similar to Lux. Now I'm always hoping for Premier requests, but they are few and far between. I am currently seeking another source of income. Driving rideshare is really not worth it. When you subtract your expenses out of your earnings it doesn't leave much. Factor in the wear and tear and depreciation on your car and you're probably in negative numbers. Now factor in the risks of an accident a breakdown, a traffic citation, it's just not a good way to make money.
My question is I’m sitting at the airport. I am down to , 1 - 5. In Q. But yet I’m getting a trip radar request inside the airport. How does that make sense to sit in queue but get a trip radar. The ride was $45…. John Wayne airport to State College Boulevard literally two minutes off the five freeway. Why would this while in queue show up as trip radar? How does this make sense?
I just started mult-platforming again after Lyft kicked me off 4 years ago. I must admit that the Trip Radar and Reservation Requests on Uber are SUPER annoying. It's definitely good to have a backup just in case either one has issues.
I hate that Uber is the dominant app in my market. I'm so fucking tired of fighting their app while driving, with the app constantly pulling up the bottom third when I haven't arrived yet. Uber also pretends pickups don't exist when pulling up your trip activity, making it impossible to track your active times. Their destination filter is also terrible, "toward my destination" can literally end with you only 0.1 miles closer to your destination. Uber keeps trying to screw over third party apps like Maxymo and Mystro. Uber forces me to wait 7 minutes before I can get my cancelation fee. I could go on and on, I hate Uber. I do both but my resentment for Uber continues to grow, but I have no choice because that's where the money is (especially from tips, Lyft passenger tips are downright mythological in my market).
I feel you on the Lyft tips... Why do I get tips on 80-90% of rides thru Uber, but l get tips less than 50% of the time thru Lyft. Coincidence? I can't prove that they are or aren't stealing tips, so I'm going to go with them stealing considering my tips thru Uber.
To whom it may concern you can always turn down your volume on your phone, if Uber overrides that which happens because I've proven that Uber overrides that while you're manually holding down the volume button it will it will technologically override your physical control of the of the button and still increase the volume to maximum a for trip radar, turn off all sound notifications, and then when that gets override the next work around is to turn on do not disturb, everything will technologically work unless you authorize it, the only problem I find with that is if you're using the voice navigation that will no longer be able to be heard so once you have a ride going turn back on your do not disturb so you can hear the voice navigation and then you know turn it back and off accordingly, also use two phones
I do Uber more because I can do rides, Eats, Shop+Pay, alcohol delivery. With Lyft and DD, it's only either rides or deliveries. It's nice to break it up. But I agree, Lyft gives you more bonuses. If I'm offline for two weeks, I'll have $300 for 10 rides. I haven't seen that with Uber at all. It surges a lot in our area, too, and the most odd times. I'm still sticking with Uber, its how I'm able to keep my rental
In my area, Lyft has ruled for 7 years with about 80% of the business. Lyft now shows map layers (called Map Explorer) that show you wait times, recent ride demand, nearby drivers, and gas discounts. The nearby drivers layer shows up to 20 drivers, as opposed to seeing the maximum of 8 on the passenger app. Lyft does do the pop-up radar thing but it's only when there are very few rides out there, and usually only when you're using a destination filter. I have noticed that on rides with bonus features and/or percentage turbo 10%-40% by the hour, the ride base fees are adjusted so that the fees come out about the same as they would have on a normal ride. I think those are just gimmicks to get drivers to accept rides they would otherwise turn down. Uber in our area shows nothing but the driver pay per mile seems to be a bit higher. But I lave the Lyft app on while I'm heading to an Uber pickup, and if anything appealing comes through, I cancel the Uber fo the sure thing on the Lyft ride. I've sent this info to Uber but they really don't even want to do business here at all - so it falls upon deaf ears - go figure.
Our bonus with Lyft is only to increase our earnings so they don’t have to pay us the 70%. Our bonus is included in our earnings so we are not getting 70% of what the customer pays
As an UBER driver I had to become an UBER passenger today. After speaking with and comparing notes with the driver, we noticed that UBER is taking out 30%. I'm not sure if this is normal but it is my understanding that they were only taking out 20%. Thoughts?
Like how Lyft provides more information and seems to provide better bonuses in Atlanta than Uber. Will drive for who has best offers. Uber Quest starts at 60 rides for weekend. Lyft starts at like 30. Much easier for weekend driver.
I tried to use the stay in area but Corpus Christi Texas isn't that big so half the bubble 6:20 is in the water plus the 5 mile past bubble will still take you to dangerous areas. I also found that when using the destination area I don't get trips. Oh well.
Honestly I think they both suck upfront fares is only a pay cut in Florida it’s the worst on both ends it took me 3 hours in Tampa to make 42 bucks miles and gas it doesn’t add up I been with both platforms since 2014 and that’s how they treat u know only a matter of time they will fall.
Uber is better in my market in houston. Most riders use Uber than lyft. Uber riders tip big and more frequently and review their rides! Uber has more opportunity here in Houston especially since you can drive and still make 4k a month driving only at night! Lyft is stressful but once I figure out the platform maybe it won't be.
Why doesn't lyft allow you to filter by ride type like Uber does?? (XL, Comfort, Premium etc). This is awful that lyft doesn't allow this but Uber does. Very useful
UBER is a cool job...i really do love it to be honest but if I stay away for a year and comes back and i have my badge expired, are they(Council )going to renew my badge for me or i have to do a test again???
I have recently started running Uber and LYFT at the same time. I tend to agree, the LYFT platform gives better info, has greater value rides. You will stay busy by running both.
@@elvisatanga5493 I'm sorry my friend, that's not a good run. I completely understand that everyone's financial situation is different. Please avoid doing these types of runs. The success of a driver comes when he gets offers that pay more money for less miles. Of course that's not always the case. I'm losing on this run. $3.35 for gas ⛽ 35 miles per gallon. I lived in Crandall Texas.
I can barely read the request before I accept. Especially in traffic. I'm not taking my eyes off the road that long. Yes, I agree there is not much time to anylze the route before another driver picks it up. I will look at Lyft because I like the 'stay in area" feature.
I agree with all this. What annoys me most about Lyft though is viewing the rider profile. The fact that it alternates between be able to view the profile and only being able to cancel the ride after accepting the ride is infuriating. Am I missing something? It seems randomly timed too.
You have to be stopped. Once you start driving you can only cancel. Once you stop, like at a red light for more than 5 seconds it will then allow you to view the driver destination.
They pay 70% AFTER they take their cut....No way is that the same as getting 70% of what the passenger pays. They are still taking 60-70% of your FARE, if you believe otherwise, you are a fool.
Uber charges riders surge in my area. The surge isn't on the map, and drivers aren't getting paid surge. I only drive for lyft. I have friends who drive for Uber. They are constantly having riders ask them why there is a surge being charged and show their phones with the surge to the drivers. Also, stealing tips. Passengers are showing where they left tips on the app, and they aren't appearing in the driver app. They never see the tips.
Both platforms are full of BS I’ve been online one hour straight multiple times and Lyft barely sending me any rides, Kind of wish Lyft had a triple radar. 70% of the fare is bullshit, Especially when they blatantly put it in your face this is before external fees, keep that ish thieves.
Uber keeps me plenty busy and I never have any problem getting the trip radar request that I accept… Some people disagree but I believe that Uber prioritize his drivers with a better rating/acceptance rate/cancellation fee as it only makes sense… Anybody who says different? I would tell them if you think Uber is stealing tips from you and ripping you off every other way then why wouldn’t they do something, like prioritize a better driver better ride
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I do not like driving for LYFT. LYFT advertises $8 bonus every ride everywhere. When you stop driving and notice your bonus has not been added. You contact LYFT to inquire about your bonus payment they act as though they cannot see the bonus on your account. They say you are outside the zone and bonus hour. No one would accept low balling rides with no bonus. I have been driving for over 6 hours and I haven't even made $100!
This is poverty and I will be letting other drivers know about this!
Uber is better
Lyft
Shouldn't we all agree that, these days, NO RIDE should pay a driver less than $5.00?
Exactly
@@jamesdeberry3274 yes
$7 but that's just my opinion 😂😂😂
@@jamesdeberry3274 I say $10.
Yeah less than $5 to do anything (for an adult) is wild
I quit uber about a year ago once I figured out that Uber was stealing my tips. Lyft ain't great either, I'm currently building a business that will get me out of this unprofitable driveshare scam permanently. I suggest you make a plan to actually have a life.
Lyft steal tips as well
I totally agree with your assessment. But I am just pissed with both. Rideshare has turned into modern day slave work.
I would rather compare it to being a modern day serf
No offense as this is not meant to be a negative response but the reason you feel that way is because you’re depending on Uber/Lyft too much
When these companies started, they were never intended for people to use full-time and pay their bills/raise their family/buying houses … they were designed to use as extra work on the side to make some extra money or pick up a ride here and there when you were going to a certain location
Start networking with your passengers and get involved and some other type of work that you can offer them while you were talking to them and also start asking if they take Uber frequently and try to see if those rides make sense to you to offer them private ride service Which pays 2 to 3 times more than what the Uber Ride will pay you
Good luck out there
Absolutely 💯
@@UberDriverChat Totally agree. Nobody is forcing anyone to do this work. If you feel like a slave, quit. I love driving for Lyft but note I am not depending on this for my full-time job. I do it to make extra money.
I drive for Lyft part-time for extra for extra money. I would never do this as strictly full-time employment. Customers can lie and literally get you deactivated. I've seen it happen on few occasions to drivers. The customer 's favorite lie is the driver was under the influence.
They both screw you over but lyft kisses you first
😂 My first “out of town” ride they definitely didn't kiss me or hug me before they took my entire pay.
@@NiceSassyLatina
I'm driving for both. Like you, I can't stand the constant trip radar requests, and the destination filter for going home is a joke. This morning, Uber said going 15 minutes in the wrong direction was on my way home! Lyft also has its issues. This morning, my rider was going from her hotel to a restaurant. It was a $5.75 trip. After we left the pickup spot, she added a second destination, the airport, which was in the opposite direction. So my ride distance and time DOUBLED, and Lyft did not adjust my fare at all. I complained multiple times via the app and kept getting the same responses. It was so infuriating. They finally got tired of me and gave me $5 as a "one time courtesy". lol... Bottom line, I've found Uber passengers tip more frequently, so that ends up being a bit more lucrative.
People use lyft after they were kicked. Thats why Uber has more tips.
@@ricky4673 It depends o nthe area youdrive. Here, Lyft has about 80% of the business, and Uber doesn't even do upfront fees or show you the pax destination until after you pick the pax up.
Definitely! Uber riders tip and tip big on everyone of my rides and I've done over 4k rides in 6 months! Uber is a better program for what I am looking for.
I like driving for Lyft, I feel more relaxed. All your points are valid. Driving for Uber is EXTREMELY stressful!
Lyft has too much down time tho
Living in Houston TX, I have worked for ride-sharing companies.They don’t pay you! The pay is so low that it doesn’t even cover the gas and the depreciation cost of the car. It’s a scam!
For a $9.25 ride, would you drive for 45 minutes, wasting gas and depreciating your car (tires, oil, maintenance, adding all those miles), and on top of that, at the end of the year, you pay 25-30% in taxes?
So if we do the math, you made
$4.5 in 45 minutes.
It’s a scam; steer clear of them.
Truth
I guess it’s just time to focus on getting a real job, I mean I have a real job but was thinking about signing up to be a Lyft driver but seeing everybody say this about ride share companies , yeah I’m just gonna focus on looking for a better job than the one I am already at. 😂
Ya, Lyft is VERY crooked. I wish drivers would boycott them like I did but no one will
Worst part about lyft is that they force you to call in order to cancel AND that they block you from texting if you're going more than 5mph. I can't stand that feature.
I hate that too. You'd think by now they would have poked their heads out of the office to find out about speech to text features on smartphones, and do away with that annoyance. Also, the "LIMIT TAPS" warning is another pisser. Sometimes, I just need to unzoom the mapp so I can get a better idea of where the pax is going - because their mapping sux too - and the "Limit Taps" warning pops up repeatedly. It's more of a driving distraction than just letting me use the maps like I want to.
My biggest problem with Lyft is the way rides drop off after you accept them when you are completing a ride.
yeah, I hate that... :(
@@DougRenz I've been wondering about that too. If a rider cancels on me while on Lyft, there is no notification or anything. I'll find out by looking at my GPS map and seeing that at some point they canceled without me ever being notified of it. Last time it happened I was on my way to pick up a reservation for a ride to the airport.
This happened to me multiple times
I use Lyft more too. I like that most rides are closer to you than Uber trying to send you out for miles to the pick up. Uber’s trip radar is like a baby that won’t stop crying and I’m tired of being the baby sitter. I don’t know how they thought this was a good idea or how they get away with this feature legally
Literally put a piece of tape over your speaker preferably duct tape It will muffet over 90%
I agree with your assessments. I much prefer Lyft but they are just not as busy as Uber so I continue to multi-platform
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I drive for both and I hate that radar with a passion because I could sit there for a half an hour and 15 radar request come through and I hit them all and get none of them. That’s why I’ve started driving Uber lessand Lyft more.
That’s weird as I get the majority of the trip radar request that I accept… What is your acceptance rate/driver rating/cancellation rate by the way how to curiosity
In Denver, Uber usually pays better than Lyft. Tips are also much higher with Uber customers. Lyft destination filter works much better than Uber.
Thats my experience as well. Cheaper more problematic riders, no tips. Had 2 problem riders in one week, and I've not even done many Lyft rides. Over 2.5K rides with Uber and never had any problems. But I also drive daytime only.
Working in Denver currently and can confirm
Neither are good, both are a scam
@@niveam4368 you probably drive at dumb times.
@@highvolumeswearer No I noticed it on the pay breakdown. The ride request amount didn't match the actual pay for the ride. When I called them on it, they stopped doing it.
I always use Stay in Area. I stay in the suburbs but I set my radius at 10. Also, if my “Last Ride” is at the maximum miles (10) I change to “Head to Destination” with my home as the destination.
That seems like a good idea… By the way how much are you averaging per hour that you actually are in the car…
@@UberDriverChat As I’m retired and only drive weekdays, 1:00 pm to 5:00 pm and I try to make $20/hr. Most days I make it and some days it’s more like $15/hr.
Yes Lyft pays per ride better than Uber, but. In my area at least one can't stay busy enough with just Lyft. It's one $10 lyft ride vs 3 or 4 $5 Uber rides
I’m on the beta tester and they’re now displaying approximate how much per mile is the trip. After you finish the ride, in the trip detail, it gives you both upfront and actual info of the cost per mile.
I agree. i drove for Uber For 3 years but I hardly ever use Uber anymore. I dont get upfront fares with Uber and when I do a trip the fare is very low. Also passengers are very unhappy with Uber so there are a lot more rides with Lyft. Where I'm at Uber trip may be once an hour.
geez, I drove through Dallas last night 6pm and Uber pinged me within 5 seconds of a decline trip....I declined them all so that meant my phone was blowing up with a new ping every 10 seconds along with the Trip Radar pings...I just turned it off till I was further into the suburbs...I really don't like my car smelling of drugs and alcohol with NO chance of tips.
I’m almost exclusively Lyft now
*Lyft is much more transparent.
*Lyft is busier in my market(Tampa)
*less instant cashout.
*the $8 bonus hours per ride when they are offered.
*longer offer time
* Kick back when I don't get my 70%.
The bad*
*People are cheap on Lyft. Less tips.
*Airport rides aren't as profitable, and the Lyft's version of trip radar at the airport pay is garbage and not as many as Uber.
* I'll get more ride offers(trip radar) at the airport from Uber. I do give Lyft rides at rhe airport but not as much
Must be a highly "depends on your market" thing. But lyft better than uber... uh, don't think so. They're both horrible. In my market (Tampa Bay, FL) lyft pay sucks donkey balls. As bad as uber is, lyft's pay offers run 20%-30% less than uber offers for similar time/miles. On those rare instances where you can stack several of lyft's bonuses... that just gets you back to about the same as uber's base pay.
Yeah, sure, lyft's driver app has a couple quality of life features that are nicer for drivers. But you can't pay your rent or buy groceries with "nicer" app features.
I am not in Florida, but it seems every driver there is saying that it sucks!
Seriously I worked yesterday in Tampa made 43 bucks in 3 active hours the other two hours nothing totaled 5 external fees are just to high there base rate is as much or more it’s ridiculous I gave up they think it’s cool to screw drivers sooner or later theses companies are gonna crash and I can’t wait to see that.
I’ve noticed Lyft giving lots of, pretty much weekly, “ride challenges”. You’re given an option of three “tiers”, the more required rides the larger the monetary bonus. I pick one and then setup a “stay within area” filter. It allows me to complete the rides I need in a decent amount of time and even though the rides are relatively short I still make money and get a the bonus within the allotted amount of days. It adds up and I end the week always making my earnings goal.
I was using both in Tampa. I got too many entitled drivers from Uber and reported me to where my tier ranking plummeted so I quit in 2023 for lyft. Lyft has been horrible to where as of late, the payout and entitled drivers made my hob less fulfilling and as of this week, I quit Lyft for lack of rides and pay
Lyft shows what the passenger paid after completing the ride. That's a big plus!
Where
Driving for both of them does not make sense when you look at maintenance, gas , etc... im glad i quit driving 2 years ago, and counting...😂
Yeah I only made $36k last year, 26k miles.. and still owed the IRS over $1,300.. avg american car avg's around 25mpg. (I have a hybrid that gets around 50mpg, but they cost more etc so lets just stick to the national avg for comparisons)..
At 5$/gal, Thats about 5.2k a year on gas alone, add a set of tires and we're now up to around 6k in expenses, now you gotta factor in oil changes, fluids, car washes, all the extra dents and dings and scratches, depreciation.. (my corolla depreciated over 7K in one year, it was a new car and thats bound to happen the newer your car is).. but yeah, if your car cost more than $20-30k, you'll most likely be working for that car and nothing else.
.. So on $36k a year, ur lucky to walk away with $25k of that.. avg rent is $1,900mth here, so thats 25k-$22.8k. I'd have walked away with $2,200 last year. (Obviously I couldnt afford an avg place here, so i rent a room for a pretty 'sweet deal'.. but I understand not every one has an awesome 'sweet deal'), so it seems like unless you're in a major major city, you're just going to be working for your car.
@@rogerwilco1777and you didnt get wc insurance, regular insurance, or car insurance or time off. Infact adding those real costs means your in the hole. They are duping people.
@@rogerwilco1777 You're playing the victim here but this doesn't add up. You averaged over $1.38 per mile for an entire work year? That suggests that you were highly selective with your rides, meaning your low wages are actually partially your own fault. 26000 miles also seems like a pretty low amount for a full time driver. Also how did you end up owing so much in taxes? Your mileage is equal to an $18000 tax deduction all on its own (assuming the current standard mileage rate). There is no way in hell you owed over $19000 in taxes on your Uber income.
@@nikidelvalle I agree with you… Most people don’t treat this as a business and anyone who owes money in taxes at the end of the year didn’t understand the first rule of thumb which is put $100-$200 a week away for any type of future expenses/repairs/taxes, etc…. even less in his situation as he was only driving part time
I’ve been driving four days a week for the past two years and it makes perfect sense to me and I’m profiting $65,000 a year after grossing $80,000 and still have money in the bank that I put away every week
Congrats , you did the right choice. I'm doing the same looking a new job quick as possible
None is better. both companies pay Slavish to drivers. its 2024 not 2004.
I make $25 to $42 an hour every day, averaging $30. Today I drove for 4 hours and made $142.80. And that was before peak hours.
@@michaelanderson8421 I’m with you on that as my numbers are very similar if not better at times here in the southern California area… Most drivers don’t have a strategy and end up just taking the crappy rides that come along and then complaining about them in the end
Also, I believe that acceptance rate/driver rating/cancellation rate have a lot to do with the rides that come through as it only makes sense or why would they even have those statistics?
@@UberDriverChat If acceptance rate plays into your offers then how are you suppose to maximize profits by not accepting crappy rides? It would turn into a vicious circle...not accepting shitty rides turns into not getting hardly any good rides cause I decline the crappy rides giving you a low acceptance rate and therefore low acceptance leads to less good pings
@@Jason-mp6yj I understand where you’re coming from… I seem to do pretty well and my acceptance rate is 35%… Whereas some people have a 5% to 10% acceptance rate … what is yours by the way as well as your cancellation rate and driver rating if you don’t mind me asking
@@UberDriverChatI drive for Lyft and almost always use destination mode without really needing it so unless a ride is heading in the set direction, I get to see most of the available rides in my area which is where I cherry pick the most lucrative ones!
$1 per Mile, you never get that driving in houston tx.
I wish it was $1 per mile.
$1 here in s florida but the longer the ride lesser the dollar gets. ex 20 mile drive, 13 bucks. So i accept more shorter runs
Uber pays more in Sacramento. Up to a $2 difference today on several rides.
I like lyft they tell you where you going uber you have to be gold
Lyft is a VERY crooked, unorganized company. They also don’t have a customer service number to be able to call which is MANDATORY to be able to serve the drivers efficiently.
Wridz & Yride are the future of rideshare. They are both subscription models & you keep 100% of the fare. Uber/Lyft are dying, and it's only a matter of time
Wridz is now in Houston.
Here in SF they have two huge automated rideshare companies. I’m sure it’s only a matter of time ..
Uber- McDonalds Lyft - Chik-Fila
I agree I’m Lyft all day!! Huge improvements and a lot better money less nonsense still not perfect but they are definitely taking steps in the better direction.
REALLY GREAT VIDEO!
I both agree and disagree with some points though. My experience multi-platforming is that UBER upfront fares can be better than Lyft. But the key is to accept only the rides that are worth it. UBER RESERVATIONS and airport rides can be significantly more. But at least in Los Angeles, the time to review an offer request on UBER is not 10 seconds… it is often 3 seconds and sometimes 2, meaning I go to accept and it disappear!!! (Providing no time to review an offer should be illegal… don’t they know that we’re often driving when a request comes in?
Lyft is definitely better in that regard, but Lyft definitely changed the trip radar so now it brings up a confusing new screen with multiple rides and very fine print that’s hard to read. The old way was better because you could see the info on the main map for just the ride you were wanting to check out, etc. Also, without bonuses, my pay has gone from $35-$45/hr to $18 - $25 / hr… before expenses, meaning rideshare is no longer a profitable business for drivers. I keep trying to find ways to make up for the loss of bonuses, but only taking the higher paying rides often means I end up exhausted and hours away from home. The destination filters on UBER are completely useless. Both apps don’t care about driver fatigue. Lyft gives ZERO warnings about being kicked off the app nor any info of when you can start driving again. UBER is so much better in the regard. Also. both UBER & Lyft are no longer paying that much more, if anything, for comfort rides. It’s inexcusable that they don’t tell us about changes that affect our livelihood, treat us a slaves, etc. (They both say QUESTS and Ride Challenges are offered “periodically”, but that’s hard to fathom or believe… is my landlord going to allow me to pay the rent periodically?
I do both but, like you, I'm doing Lyft for all the reasons you stated PLUS Lyft still charges $0.85 to cash out and Uber started charging $1.25!!! Ummm, yeah, ok, whatever Uber! I'm strictly doing Lyft!!!
Not for me Lyft = $16.00 per hour Uber = $33.00 per hour
Lyft here pays about 35$ a hr
@@luisrobert5380 bullshit. Uber pays more in Denver
Where
I easily average $30-$35 but to be fair I am in SF
@@JSession which means averaging $30-35 you are broke as a joke 🤣
Uber has gotten too greedy now, and the pay is too low. When I look at what they are charging riders, and paying me, I no longer want to drive Uber.
I had a choice to choose some bonus money next week on Lyft. The general consensus with all my riders is eveyone prefers Lyft.
Still just want to see the ratio change.
lyft tells me the destination vs uber doesnt in my area.
I use Lyft only since Uber in my market doesn't show how much ill get paid for the ride and Lyft shows me all the information upfront.
Same in my area (McAllen, Texas). Uber doesn't even want to do business here. In 7 years, I've never even seen a streak bonus or received one of those elusive "pickup premiums" they try to entice us with by saying "likely". And because I can't see what Uber is offering, on long pickups, I leave the Lyft app on while I'm heading toward the Uber pax. If anything decent comes through on Lyft, I'll cancel the Uber and take the sure thing on Lyft. In this sense, Uber is making a big mistake by NOT listening to drivers.
the market is way to saturated. Same thing happened with doordash
Your experience, your opinion.. Neither service is exceptional in any way. With Lyft, there's virtually no customer service. And with Uber, customer service has been coached to handle situations in a way that will be of benefit to the organization alone.
I couldn’t disagree with you more about driving for Lyft … I will never drive for Uber 🤦♂️
That also depends on the market area. I am in the Kansas City area and I can honestly say that there is more traffic on Uber here than there is on Lyft
That’s everywhere as Lyft hardly has the market share that Uber has
I would have to agree with you on a lot of things you pointed out. I do in fact drive both Uber and Lyft. I don't drive Uber as much because the ride challenges that are sent to me are ridiculous. Like most of the challenges are for 30 rides for $5. And I notice there's barely any surge within my area. I tried to turn the app on for Uber;but the rides are priced far too low on Uber. So,I just keep the Uber app off completely. On Lyft,I noticed I'm getting paid a little more than what Uber is playing for the rides itself. I still see surge within my area and I'm also getting bonus and turbo to help earn a little more money. I do like the fact their trip radar on Lyft doesn't constantly beep at you how Uber does. I feel like Uber is becoming an app that's becoming very frustrating because of the annoying trip radar. And because they keep sending shitty pay rides at you.
This is so spot on and I am doing the exact same thing. Driving Lyft is much better than Uber now. Uber has no bonus or incentives for me to drive for them. Plus that having to wait that 7 minutes on Uber to cancel sucks.
I make way less driving Lyft then Uber in the northeast
Lyft offered me a 60% bonus from 7:00am - 8:00am today. It’s peak morning driving for me and I always get rides. Within that hour I got no requests because that 60% is passed onto the driver. No only is it bad but I lost money because no rides came in.
Lyft is better , what about wridz?
I’m looking into Wridz now!
If it’s something close to what I have heard then I believe it’s going to be the solution
Wrydz it’s just a startup company that will end up doing the same thing that Uber and Lyft are doing
Great video. I would push back a little bit. Whether Uber or Lyft is better with pay is market specific. Yes some of the Lyft tools are better. But in my market Lyft pay is straight trash. And don't accept their 70% after fees framing. Why? Because their "fees" trip to trip vary so much that it is meaningless.
My experience is the same. I prefer Lyft for exactly the same reasons. Pretty much done with Uber though there is more work. I love the destination filters on Lyft. Uber’s destination filters are worse than useless.
Can you stay in certain areas with Lyft?uber doesn’t have area preferences in my state ( Maryland)
Mostly not true… At least not here in N. Florida. Uber is horrific, but Lyft is even worse. When you set “stay in area,” the bonuses magically disappear. And I’m in one of the most popular and busiest tourist areas in the nation. Long trips routinely pay .40-.50 per mile. Those are undrivable. Short trips are just as bad. Turbo is useless unless it is >30%. And if it is high what do they do? THEY DON’T GIVE YOU ANY RIDES. This way it keeps you from doing Uber, which is their actual goal. When Turbo is high, (if you get a ping) the rides are long pickups and average out to about .70 per mile. Not even enough to cover the cost of ownership and operation of a vehicle. The “70% guarantee” is also bullshit… and you should know better. Yes, they have expenses… SO DO WE! So their expenses get paid first after deducting mystery fees, then we get 70% of what’s left? In what universe is that fair?? Please don’t shill for these monsters. I’ve been driving 9 years in various markets and both platforms suck. But Lyft is much worse than Uber in every way… making it just about undrivable.
Uber stopped paying the long distance pickup about 2 years ago. Uber used to have a long distance pickup fee for over 10 minutes.
I live in PHILADELPHIA and I always drive with Uber but since a couple of months Uber is not paying good for trips anymore they taking more than 50% and long rides don't pay nothing is not worth it drive with Uber anymore
Story of my life. Happening to me
Question: Insurance.. If you can show proof that you have full coverage plus ride share coverage insurance are they going to still take out money -> Est.external Fees
Est Commercial auto insurance & other expenses..
That is a GREAT question. Too bad no one answered lol
The answer is yes. They will still take that money out.
Uber charges surge price, but suppresses the surge on our maps.
Exactly. Picked someone up yesterday during rush hour and he was like, "Wow, the price jumped." I told him that the drivers don't get a piece of it, it's Uber taking advantage of the rush hour. Your being charged $20 but I'm getting $8. Pax was a former Uber driver, he wanted to get back into it, so I told him to rent a car from a local rental company that is connected to Uber. The trip to the rental is free, but he has to first book the rental through the app. If anything, he gets a car to get around, just work Uber to cover the rental
It’s simple… It’s called supplying demand… They will price the ride as the most possible that a passenger will pay and price the ride to the driver as to the lowest price he will take it for
Pretty soon, people are going to be complaining that McDonald’s only pays a dollar to make the big Mac that they sell for six dollars😂
Thank you, Sir. This information was very informative & helpful. Have a beautiful day.
I'm pretty new to all of this, about four months, but from what I've seen so far Lyft is definitely the superior platform. I really like their destination platform, and I also seem to get more riders tipping me.
The 70% guarantee is terrific and I got my first one a week or two ago. However, unless I misunderstand it, tips are included in the computation of whether you reached 70% or not. If I'm reading it correctly I don't think that is fair, because tips are not a part of Lyft's fare but rather a gift to us from our passengers.
That said, the guarantee is still superior to what the competition offers. I'll still use both because Uber has provided me with excellent reservation opportunities, and quite often with a follow up reservation that is close to the destination of the first reservation.
Tips are not included in the calculation.
The fine print gotcha is that it isn't a true or reliable 70%.
My experience is the estimates is 27-38%
Lyft cannot keep me busy in Boston. Uber can plus Uber has XXL now and I do quite a few of those. BUT - Uber bonus's completely suck now. Lyft does have a much better bonus system.
Lyft app seems bettwr than ubers app. I even got my uber account closed for no reason uber really messes u up
Better pay from Lyft must be entirely dependent upon market. In my market (OC, CA) I usually get a never-ending string of minimum paying, $2.40 rides on Friday and Saturday nights. I've been waking up at Oh Dark Thirty the past few days to compare morning prices since my school job will be ending in a couple weeks and Lyft *does* offer me way more airport runs to ONT/SNA/LAX/LGB. I think Uber is holding a grudge because my acceptance rate is so low (10%). I haven't even been offered an LAX run in over a year and it's been since October or so since I've been offered a reserved ride aside from any that are missed by whomever *DID* accept it.
Thanks Joe! I am also a Twin Cities driver like you and everything you said I concure 💯 But I don't multi platform. I have over 4,400 rides as a Lyft driver. And 5 for Uber 🤣
Couple of years ago a young lady falsely accused me of being racism because I refused to give her ride, she had a little baby with her and she didn’t have a car seat and refused to give her the ride. Unfortunately I didn’t have a dashcam to prove that she was lying.
Is there any way that I can reactivate my Lyft account?
NO. IT IS FINAL. Go flip hamburger, you'll make more money
Hi.. how much per km in your country?
For me this is pretty true, i started last year on the 1st july, by mid August id only done like 118 rides on lyft and I stopped driving for them all together. I lost my car in January and at that point i had about 1500 rides on uber and only the 118 on lyft. I replaced my car finally on February 22nd, when i got back to work it had flipped, uber pay had gotten even worse than it was when i stopped driving and lyft was paying better and were offering better bonuses. I switched over for the most part. Weekends at bar close i use Uber, the fares are MUCH higher and i can get good paying further rides, Lyft throws lower paying short rides. By bar close im anxious to get out of downtown, i can do my longer ride in the same amount of time as the shorter distance rides cause im able to get out of the higher traffic or construction areas. The issue i have with lyft is, their riders dont tip nearly as much as uber. Uber i average about 80-85% of my pax tipping, lyft im lucky to hit 25% of my pax tipping. Now that advantage/standard mode have launched in austin im quitting driving all together. I refuse to take rides that dont meet my minimum requirements for pay and passenger rating, i will never make myself do rides that make sense just to meet their metric requirements, so im forced into standard mode and only get radar requests, the only exclusive offers i get are for share rides.
I agree with these reasons. More reasons I prefer lyft now is no acceptance rate or cancelation rate. My area is still busy enough that I usually will get another ride pretty quickly if I cancel. I have found that I can get 3 to 8 more rides in a day if I only wait for a rider for 2 to 3 minutes before I cancel the ride. Waiting the extra time for a low cancelation fee is not worth it to me, especially on a $4 to $5 ride. When I cancel after 2 to 3 minutes I almost always get a better paying ride within a minute or two. I make more by taking the loss on the time and distance I traveled to a rider that isn't ready then I would by losing the time waiting for them. Also it is in the worst sections in my area that the riders make me wait the longest. It is not safe for me to be park in these areas.
When it's busy, I never wait for the cancellation fee. It makes more sense to cancel after 2-3 minutes. Especially when you're in a bonus zone.
ahh - it all depends man. Some rich people are horrible but most are great. Some ghetto people are a problem but most of them are great. Same goes for kids. Some of the parents of rich kids clearly raised them correctly based on how they behave in a car. In fact, kids (high school and below - not college students) behave better than adults in my experience. lol I one time picked up these freshmen high school white girls and this one chick asked me "What"s my age?" I replied 26 at the time and she was shocked and said "You look like you are our age which is 14." - College students are the worst if they are drinking but not all of them.
I feel the pay is crap on both apps. I drive a luxury car and I used to count on getting maybe 1 or 2 Lux requests with Lyft. Those would boost my income for the day significantly. Then Lyft did away with the Lux option. Uber still offers Premier, which is similar to Lux. Now I'm always hoping for Premier requests, but they are few and far between. I am currently seeking another source of income. Driving rideshare is really not worth it. When you subtract your expenses out of your earnings it doesn't leave much. Factor in the wear and tear and depreciation on your car and you're probably in negative numbers. Now factor in the risks of an accident a breakdown, a traffic citation, it's just not a good way to make money.
My question is I’m sitting at the airport. I am down to , 1 - 5. In Q. But yet I’m getting a trip radar request inside the airport. How does that make sense to sit in queue but get a trip radar. The ride was $45…. John Wayne airport to State College Boulevard literally two minutes off the five freeway. Why would this while in queue show up as trip radar? How does this make sense?
Happened to me. They know that people get tired of waiting for an airport trip. Over saturated
I prefer Lyft, but I get more offers through Uber. I also try to hit $1/ mile.
That’s the way to do it
I just started mult-platforming again after Lyft kicked me off 4 years ago. I must admit that the Trip Radar and Reservation Requests on Uber are SUPER annoying. It's definitely good to have a backup just in case either one has issues.
I hate that Uber is the dominant app in my market. I'm so fucking tired of fighting their app while driving, with the app constantly pulling up the bottom third when I haven't arrived yet. Uber also pretends pickups don't exist when pulling up your trip activity, making it impossible to track your active times. Their destination filter is also terrible, "toward my destination" can literally end with you only 0.1 miles closer to your destination. Uber keeps trying to screw over third party apps like Maxymo and Mystro. Uber forces me to wait 7 minutes before I can get my cancelation fee. I could go on and on, I hate Uber. I do both but my resentment for Uber continues to grow, but I have no choice because that's where the money is (especially from tips, Lyft passenger tips are downright mythological in my market).
I feel you on the Lyft tips...
Why do I get tips on 80-90% of rides thru Uber, but l get tips less than 50% of the time thru Lyft. Coincidence? I can't prove that they are or aren't stealing tips, so I'm going to go with them stealing considering my tips thru Uber.
Same, Uber is the dominant app in my market, Plus, I can do more on Uber. Eats, Shops & Rides
Uber is the dominant app in all markets
@UberDriverChat No it isn't. There are many Lyft dominated markets, such as Portland.
@@nikidelvalle Lyft does not dominate the Portland rideshare market. Uber does more rides in that area than Lyft
Uber is horrible I'm trying to get into the medical courier services
To whom it may concern you can always turn down your volume on your phone, if Uber overrides that which happens because I've proven that Uber overrides that while you're manually holding down the volume button it will it will technologically override your physical control of the of the button and still increase the volume to maximum a for trip radar, turn off all sound notifications, and then when that gets override the next work around is to turn on do not disturb, everything will technologically work unless you authorize it, the only problem I find with that is if you're using the voice navigation that will no longer be able to be heard so once you have a ride going turn back on your do not disturb so you can hear the voice navigation and then you know turn it back and off accordingly, also use two phones
I do Uber more because I can do rides, Eats, Shop+Pay, alcohol delivery. With Lyft and DD, it's only either rides or deliveries. It's nice to break it up. But I agree, Lyft gives you more bonuses. If I'm offline for two weeks, I'll have $300 for 10 rides. I haven't seen that with Uber at all. It surges a lot in our area, too, and the most odd times. I'm still sticking with Uber, its how I'm able to keep my rental
What is your market area?
### Vehicle Costs and Operational Expenses Calculation
#### Purchase Costs (Out the Door Prices)
1. **2024 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid**: Approximately $28,000.
2. **2024 Toyota Corolla Hybrid**: Approximately $28,500.
3. **2024 Toyota Camry LE**: Approximately $34,000.
4. **2025 Tesla Model 3**: Approximately $55,000.
#### Fuel and Electricity Costs Calculation
Assuming 5000 miles per month, fuel price of $4.60/gallon, and California electricity price of $0.38/kWh:
1. **Hyundai Elantra Hybrid** (52 MPG):
- Monthly fuel cost: 5000 miles ÷ 52 MPG × $4.60/gallon = $442.31.
2. **Toyota Corolla Hybrid** (50 MPG):
- Monthly fuel cost: 5000 miles ÷ 50 MPG × $4.60/gallon = $460.
3. **Toyota Camry LE Hybrid** (52 MPG):
- Monthly fuel cost: 5000 miles ÷ 52 MPG × $4.60/gallon = $442.31.
4. **Tesla Model 3** (250 Wh/mile):
- Monthly electricity cost: 5000 miles × 0.25 kWh/mile × $0.38/kWh = $475.
#### Three-Year Cost Calculation
Total mileage: 5000 miles/month × 36 months = 180,000 miles.
1. **Hyundai Elantra Hybrid**:
- Fuel cost: 180,000 miles ÷ 52 MPG × $4.60/gallon = $15,923.08
- Purchase cost: $28,000
- Total cost: $43,923.08
2. **Toyota Corolla Hybrid**:
- Fuel cost: 180,000 miles ÷ 50 MPG × $4.60/gallon = $16,560
- Purchase cost: $28,500
- Total cost: $45,060
3. **Toyota Camry LE Hybrid**:
- Fuel cost: 180,000 miles ÷ 52 MPG × $4.60/gallon = $15,923.08
- Purchase cost: $34,000
- Total cost: $49,923.08
4. **Tesla Model 3**:
- Electricity cost: 180,000 miles × 0.25 kWh/mile × $0.38/kWh = $17,100
- Purchase cost: $55,000
- Total cost: $72,100
#### Maintenance Costs
Assuming average maintenance costs of:
- Hybrid vehicles: $0.05/mile.
- Electric vehicles: $0.03/mile.
Three-year maintenance costs:
1. **Hyundai Elantra Hybrid**: $9,000
2. **Toyota Corolla Hybrid**: $9,000
3. **Toyota Camry LE Hybrid**: $9,000
4. **Tesla Model 3**: $5,400
#### Total Operational Costs
Including maintenance:
1. **Hyundai Elantra Hybrid**: $43,923.08 + $9,000 = $52,923.08
2. **Toyota Corolla Hybrid**: $45,060 + $9,000 = $54,060
3. **Toyota Camry LE Hybrid**: $49,923.08 + $9,000 = $58,923.08
4. **Tesla Model 3**: $72,100 + $5,400 = $77,500
#### Uber Revenue Calculation
Assuming revenue of $0.8 per mile:
Total revenue = 180,000 miles × $0.8 = $144,000.
Net income (after deducting total operational costs):
1. **Hyundai Elantra Hybrid**: $144,000 - $52,923.08 = $91,076.92
2. **Toyota Corolla Hybrid**: $144,000 - $54,060 = $89,940
3. **Toyota Camry LE Hybrid**: $144,000 - $58,923.08 = $85,076.92
4. **Tesla Model 3**: $144,000 - $77,500 = $66,500
### Conclusion
The Hyundai Elantra Hybrid yields the highest net income, followed by the Toyota Corolla Hybrid, with the Tesla Model 3 having the lowest net income.
In my area, Lyft has ruled for 7 years with about 80% of the business. Lyft now shows map layers (called Map Explorer) that show you wait times, recent ride demand, nearby drivers, and gas discounts. The nearby drivers layer shows up to 20 drivers, as opposed to seeing the maximum of 8 on the passenger app. Lyft does do the pop-up radar thing but it's only when there are very few rides out there, and usually only when you're using a destination filter. I have noticed that on rides with bonus features and/or percentage turbo 10%-40% by the hour, the ride base fees are adjusted so that the fees come out about the same as they would have on a normal ride. I think those are just gimmicks to get drivers to accept rides they would otherwise turn down. Uber in our area shows nothing but the driver pay per mile seems to be a bit higher. But I lave the Lyft app on while I'm heading to an Uber pickup, and if anything appealing comes through, I cancel the Uber fo the sure thing on the Lyft ride. I've sent this info to Uber but they really don't even want to do business here at all - so it falls upon deaf ears - go figure.
Our bonus with Lyft is only to increase our earnings so they don’t have to pay us the 70%. Our bonus is included in our earnings so we are not getting 70% of what the customer pays
As an UBER driver I had to become an UBER passenger today. After speaking with and comparing notes with the driver, we noticed that UBER is taking out 30%. I'm not sure if this is normal but it is my understanding that they were only taking out 20%. Thoughts?
In CA Uber is taking 50-55%
@@thetopgtube I noticed they took out 50% of one of my rides last week. Very inconsistent
Like how Lyft provides more information and seems to provide better bonuses in Atlanta than Uber. Will drive for who has best offers. Uber Quest starts at 60 rides for weekend. Lyft starts at like 30. Much easier for weekend driver.
70/30. It never ends
I tried to use the stay in area but Corpus Christi Texas isn't that big so half the bubble 6:20 is in the water plus the 5 mile past bubble will still take you to dangerous areas. I also found that when using the destination area I don't get trips. Oh well.
80 cents more per 🚙
Idk about Uber but Lyft is better i join Lyft app account since this march 2024 this yr
Honestly I think they both suck upfront fares is only a pay cut in Florida it’s the worst on both ends it took me 3 hours in Tampa to make 42 bucks miles and gas it doesn’t add up I been with both platforms since 2014 and that’s how they treat u know only a matter of time they will fall.
Uber is better in my market in houston. Most riders use Uber than lyft. Uber riders tip big and more frequently and review their rides! Uber has more opportunity here in Houston especially since you can drive and still make 4k a month driving only at night! Lyft is stressful but once I figure out the platform maybe it won't be.
Why doesn't lyft allow you to filter by ride type like Uber does?? (XL, Comfort, Premium etc). This is awful that lyft doesn't allow this but Uber does. Very useful
UBER is a cool job...i really do love it to be honest but if I stay away for a year and comes back and i have my badge expired, are they(Council )going to renew my badge for me or i have to do a test again???
I have recently started running Uber and LYFT at the same time. I tend to agree, the LYFT platform gives better info, has greater value rides. You will stay busy by running both.
Is a 12 mile pick up and a 25 mile drop off for $20 is a good run? Would you do it? And why?
It depends but is good because here in Texas they pay us $8 for rides like that
@@elvisatanga5493 I'm sorry my friend, that's not a good run. I completely understand that everyone's financial situation is different. Please avoid doing these types of runs. The success of a driver comes when he gets offers that pay more money for less miles. Of course that's not always the case. I'm losing on this run. $3.35 for gas ⛽ 35 miles per gallon. I lived in Crandall Texas.
@@mannyvelez6449 bro here in Dallas they are killing us they pay us 50 cents per mile is really bad am about to stop doing it because is not worth it
I can barely read the request before I accept. Especially in traffic. I'm not taking my eyes off the road that long. Yes, I agree there is not much time to anylze the route before another driver picks it up. I will look at Lyft because I like the 'stay in area" feature.
In Los Angeles regular platform Lyft pay is absolute trash
I agree with all this. What annoys me most about Lyft though is viewing the rider profile. The fact that it alternates between be able to view the profile and only being able to cancel the ride after accepting the ride is infuriating. Am I missing something? It seems randomly timed too.
You have to be stopped. Once you start driving you can only cancel. Once you stop, like at a red light for more than 5 seconds it will then allow you to view the driver destination.
@@BoondockE.V. that's what I thought but I feel like I can view it sometimes while driving too
Instacart absolutely sucks now they still money from their employees I would definitely sign up with a different company
I’m just tired of waiting for a Lyft ride, even in a bonus area! I just go to Uber because it keeps me busy even though it’s a little less pay.
They pay 70% AFTER they take their cut....No way is that the same as getting 70% of what the passenger pays. They are still taking 60-70% of your FARE, if you believe otherwise, you are a fool.
I had stopped driving Lyft because it seemed like it did not pay as well in my area, but maybe I will give them another try.
Uber drivers need to unite and work together. Shut off the Uber app, buy Lyft stock and only drive for Lyft, until Uber stock drops below $10.
Uber charges riders surge in my area. The surge isn't on the map, and drivers aren't getting paid surge. I only drive for lyft. I have friends who drive for Uber. They are constantly having riders ask them why there is a surge being charged and show their phones with the surge to the drivers. Also, stealing tips. Passengers are showing where they left tips on the app, and they aren't appearing in the driver app. They never see the tips.
Uber has been horrible. I made way more money on lyft with minimal effort.
Both platforms are full of BS I’ve been online one hour straight multiple times and Lyft barely sending me any rides, Kind of wish Lyft had a triple radar. 70% of the fare is bullshit, Especially when they blatantly put it in your face this is before external fees, keep that ish thieves.
Uber keeps me plenty busy and I never have any problem getting the trip radar request that I accept… Some people disagree but I believe that Uber prioritize his drivers with a better rating/acceptance rate/cancellation fee as it only makes sense… Anybody who says different? I would tell them if you think Uber is stealing tips from you and ripping you off every other way then why wouldn’t they do something, like prioritize a better driver better ride
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Now it flips every other day for me. Its sick