Is 375 H&H More Versatile than the 30-06?
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All loading, handloading, gunsmithing, shooting and associated activities and demonstrations depicted in our videos are conducted by trained, certified, professional gun handlers, instructors, and shooters for instructional and entertainment purposes only with emphasis on safety and responsible gun handling. Always check at least 3 industry handloading manuals for handloading data, 2 or 3 online ballistic calculators for ballistic data. Do not modify any cartridge or firearm beyond what the manufacturer recommends. Do not attempt to duplicate, mimic, or replicate anything you see in our videos. Firearms, ammunition, and constituent parts can be extremely dangerous if not used safely. - Sport
Hey Ron, you can talk about that 30-06 all day long and we will never get tired of it. That old horse is amazing.
Yes true
Thanks Matt. I may get back to it again.
amaizng catridge.It harvest more game than any other catridge on the world probably.
@@ciro79 probably 22lr lol
@@xxxxxxxx183 I forgot 22 lr lol.
When I lived in southeast Alaska I handloaded for my 375 H&H, 230 grain spitzers for deer, heavier for larger game. It worked well. But it required to much powder, so I went back to the 06, and never looked back...
Not to mention the weight difference between the 2 rifles. My .375 outweighs my .06 by over 1.5 lbs. That’s huge by the end of the day.
@@markashlock9017 especially if you plan to walk in and out several miles weight makes a difference
Sitka blackmail deer weigh at most 125 lbs. Do you need that big a cartridge for that size animal?
@@davidlium9338 No, but you need that sized cartridge to save your ass from the Bears in Southeast Alaska that are hunting you while you're hunting Blacktail deer. Guess you've never hunted there before...
John, just out of curiosity. I love getting feedback from experienced Alaskan hunters. What are your thoughts on the 338 Win, snd what did you load in your 30-‘06?
Hay Ron this is Ron . Long time Alaskan . My carries are 3006 & 375 H H ! S&W / Colt 44 mags. Trusted for over 40 years . Agree with you . Where we hunt and what we hunt makes a diff. But practice is the key to clean safe kills ! My son has chosen Mod.70 300 win mag and 375 H H because of where he lives and roams . But a chest holster with the 44 mag always a good idea !
Fascinating video. Ron is the man to explain cartridge history for sure. Talking of India, my Great Grandfather was a British army officer who at 18 years old as a subaltern (2nd lieutenant), had the job of shooting 'man eating ' tigers (actually sadly, and rather horrifyingly, in this particular case, the tigers deliberately targeted young menstruating girls by smell of blood) that stalked along the newly laid railways at night and then leapt out of the undergrowth and up onto the open trucks that the Indian railway workers slept on as the railway system was being built across the country. He killed 7 of these tigers, literally whilst leaping up 'in the air' before they could snatch a girl from the flat trucks, and I have the photographs of them and also his Tolley 500 Express.He went on to kill the record bag of dangerous game for two consecutive years in India. This includes a snow leopard that sneaked into his tent one night in the middle of a fearful storm in the Himalayas that was so severe that it nearly killed him and his shikari (Indian for PH). Having entered the tent, the snow leopard dragged his old english sheepdog out that was huddling with them against the freezing storm, and ate it outside. After 4 days hunting it, he killed it. He found traces of his dog's remains still in the leopard's gut. The snow leopard's skin now hangs on my wall. I am only allowed to own it due to the historical provenance. The rifle I am allowed to keep under UK firearms regulations as an 'obsolete calibre' as it is black powder 500 express. It is in mint condition, I inspected the bores with a bore scope and they are factory fresh. Built 1896, still have the original invoice. He was a crack shot and later in his career played a key role in the development trials of the .303 Lee Metford rifle.
Fascinating family history, British.
Fascinating read. Hmmm . . . That's an awfully bold snow leopard . . . a legal hide has got to be exceptionally rare. Tigers preying on menstruating girls probably explains many leopard & lion attacks in Africa going back to early human evolution.
A very interesting entry, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing! My father was a member of the "landed gentry" of the Raj and a British officer commanding a Gurkha platoon during WWII. He hunted all his life and took 3 confirmed maneaters (2 tigers and a bear) and even owned pet leopard, tiger, python and elephant - he had an extraordinary life as well. I still have his kukhri. 👍
Those are family stories that should be preserved for history…
The star spangled banner begins to play in my head everytime I pick up one of my 06's
If it’s a CRF I hear Deutschland Deutschland, and think patent infringement lol
Herr Mauser gave us a perfect rifle by designing the extractor for a Winchester M70......
i lived in Alaska for 19 Years , Two of my Favorite Catriges.
You are a breath of fresh air. I'm 60 and grew up pouring over everything on cartridge comparisons by the old gun/hunter writers. You take me back. You have the advantage of including the newest bullet technology to make your informed preferences. Thank and keep up your good work and style.
Thanks David. Some younger viewers think I'm a breath of stale air! Fudds forever.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors no sir age doesnt make one a fudd, just the support of slippery slope gun control
@@sarnol8973 facts
@@RonSpomerOutdoors They'll come around when they realize they only THINK they know everything.
@@sarnol8973 yep, only thing that makes a fudd in most people's eyes is the "I got mine" and general anti 2A sentiment
Just spent the other day shooting my H&R Handy Rifle in 30/06. I bought it as my first deer rifle, I was shooting clay pigeons laying on a sand pile at 100yds. I don't care what people say, I will keep shooting the 30-06 as long as I can find ammo.
I’ve hunted with a .375 for 30 years. It’s my favorite.
Elmer's lady clients didn't complain; I complained the price tag
I don’t think I could handle the recoil of .375
But the 375 is a anti material rifle though?
@@ForestxWalker06 you can easily with a 235 -250 grain loads easy recoil
@@MrJtin69 if it’s anything like shooting 180 gr 30-06 ammo then yeah
Love the 30-06. Never needed a 375H&H yet 😉🤷♂️
I didn't need one either. That's not the reason I buy a different cartridges it's about the history and fun factor.
You probably don't need the 375 HH but its a fun one to shoot, honestly and it makes a nice exit wound for critters that are notoriously hard to get a blood trail on (like bears)
@@Kayceesoutdoorliving and then the wounded bear charges at you and kills you before it dies of its wounds
I am anxiously awaiting your video on handling recoil. Thanks.
I’ve owned three 375 H&H rifles in my life(I’m 54) but never a 30-06. Whenever I found myself contemplating an -06, I wound up with a .308 instead.
I love my Browning X-Bolt in .375 H&H Magnum. It is a pretty flat shooter and loaded with Speer 235 grain bullet really hums down range.
I’ve killed several deer with that exact bullet. It works very well. They’re pretty cheap and you really don’t need expensive bullets for the 375 or 30-06 unless your shooting African dangerous game (or brown bear in the 30-06.)
That's an excellent presentation Mr Spomer. I've hunted extensively with both rifles and owned both of them for several decades. I shot 250 gr spire point bullets in my 375 and 200 gr nosler partitions in my 30-06. I used them for deer, black bear, moose, elk, goats etc. Both of them are very versatile, capable etc. To me, the versatility all boils down to wether or not one can handle the recoil from the 375 verses the 30-06. For whatever reason, as I've gotten older, I've become more sensitive to recoil and I don't want to have to concentrate so much on correct shooting form when firing the 375. So, for me, for right now, the 30-06 wins the versatility argument. When I was younger however, the 375 was my go to rifle. I LOVED packing that thing in the bush.
Thank you for the video. After watching it, I can't see how anyone can conclude that the 06 is more versatile than the .375 H&H. It does everything that the 30-06 does AND it can be used ballistically and legally on dangerous game. 1-0 to the .375
With 2 rifle, a 22LR and a 30-06, I would feel that I have all the rifles I need. I hasten to add that this not all that I would WANT, but it would cover what could be called needs.
As for the 375, it is a fine cartridge. I'm reminded of something another person once wrote, though, and I'll share it while trying to be brief. The man said his father once bought a rifle in like new condition which was chambered for the 375. The seller even threw in a box of ammo with 19 rounds in it. Next day his dad took the rifle out to test fire it. It then remained in the safe for a year or two, when his dad sold the rifle to someone else. He even threw in a box of ammo with 18 rounds in it. The recoil was a bit harsh.
Hi Ron. I have a Sako in .375 and when I was zeroing it in after 10 shots it affected my sinus. I took the gun in and had a break put on the gun and the gun now shoots like a dream , I love it. I had Al Talbot put a quick disconnect scope mount on it and a Kales scope on it, the gun is now a fantastic accurate shooter. See you at the up coming shows, stay safe.
Collar me at those shows and we'll talk.
Otto von Bock came out with the 9.3x62 Mauser in 1905, a year before 30-06 was born. The 9.3x74R has performance parity with the x62, but it's a rimmed cartridge designed to be fired from a double, not a bolt action Mauser style rifle.
Also, the 375 became the most popular medium as a result of the outcome of WWI. Holland & Holland, being an English company, road those coat tails. I suspect if the result of WWI had gone the other way, 9.3x62 would be the most popular medium.
Great video Ron. Keep them coming. Agree with you wholeheartedly. All of my hunting in RSA has been with a Tikka 30-06, 180gr and a 3-9x40 Leupold sight. The PH carried a 375 H&H. Nothing took a step, except the charging warthog which did some bullet dodging and got away.
"Back in the day when men were men".
Exactly !!!! Love your truth telling !!! 🍻
I sure raised a man. He just got a 9.3x62 Mauser.
It‘s an excellent Caliber! Hopefully Ron is doing a Video about it in the future.
@@YTkenntkeinenDatenschutz I'd like to see it compared to the 35 Whelen. They seem almost identical.
Excellent cartridge. Just shot my Ruger M77 9.3x62 a couple weeks ago.
@@G19Jeeper I'm sitting beside a 200th Anniversary Special Edition Stainless Remington 700 in 35 Whelen.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 9,3x62 eat whelen for breakfast.
I have both and I love them both. 235 grain hand loads work great for whitetail in the 375. That said, I use the old 06 most of the time. I’ve got 308, 270, 30-06, 300 H&H, and 375H&H and, IMO, the 270 is probably the best hunting round for 90%of North America. For whatever reason I typically use my 06. If I lived anywhere there were brown bear the 375 would probably get the nod but I do not so it doesn’t for me.
I really like the comparative analysis and I agree that the 06 is more versatile for deer, elk, varminting and plinking, but the 375 really outshines the 06 on the big mean stuff. Great video Ron.
Thanks Jeffery.
I wish the 338-06 was more popular. But then again there is always reloading. Thanks for sharing.
As soon as I saw the title to the video, I was hooked and had to see Ron's comments on my two favorite rifle cartridges. I really cannot wait to see Ron's video on how to handle the recoil of rifles that fire cartridges like the .375 H&H Magnum and up.
375 H&H is more recoil than a 30-06 on paper but doesn’t feel like more than a 30-06 in the field.
It feels more like a shove than a sharp jab. I would take a 375 H&H over a 300 Win Mag any day.
I have always considered the .375H&H as the logical next step up from the 30 06 Springfield when dangerous game hunting is on the itinerary. Good comparison Mr. Spomer. 👍
Agreed. I think when the thing you're shooting at can and will kill you, every advantage you can get is welcome. Everyone says that bullet placement is king, and it is....but in the real world you won't always have perfect bullet placement so any extra wounding capacity is a VERY GOOD thing.
I went 416 rem. Hits the magical 5k ft/lbs required for some game but doesn’t beat you up too bad like a real big bore hot rod
I love my Ruger M77 30/06 (and 35yrs later she still shoots sub-MOA out to 300m) and though I use my 458 for DG - I'd split the difference between the 30/06 and the 375HH by going for the 9.3x62 instead - it's a SUPERB calibre, hands down. 👍
I went with the 370 Sako...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pretty universally sufficient. Great for hogs too.
Thank you, Mr. Spomer. I truly appreciate the content. It reminds me of the old time writers, compilers of information, and documentarians, that we used to have, and who I readily miss. I'm 46, and a lot of the "new guys" in the authorship arena, are just "missing" something.
Wow, thank you!
My dad lived and hunted in Montana for forty years. He carried a 375 when he hunted west of the divide. He carried a 270 east of the divide.
I ran across this channel a few minutes ago and so far I'm really enjoying it.
Roy's own personal favorite was spawned from the 375,I would love to own one ,if only they weren't so expensive to shoot.
Owned and hunted with both. 30/06 used everything from a 93 gr FMJ to a 220 gr. My Model 70 in 375 I loaded everything from 235 gr to a 250 gr (38/55) to 300+ gr. It will kill ANYTHING!!! Love them both! Just match it to the game. I shot a Texas white tail thru the shoulder with a 235 gr 375. Tour the deer in half. In my old age I kill everything with my 7mm/08. Good Video!
I've got a 375 H&H, and it's my back up elk rifle. I've had a irrational fixation on a 416 Remington and all but decided to get one, even though I had no use for it. Until I watched Mr. Spomer shoot a magazine full in a Dakota, and decided the 416 would be too much fun for me.
I had that same irrational fixation myself. So in order to be practical, I got a 338 Win Mag, and loaded it with 300 Bergers. It’s a blast to shoot. 2,000 ft/lbs at 750 yards!
@@falba1492 338 WM is my primary elk rifle. I've got 312 rounds left of Vor-Tx 225 TTSX's. It does the job. But I must confess, I have a Cooper in a 6.5 Creed being delivered next week. I seem to have fallen far from the throne of raw naked horsepower.
@@leewoiteshek4192 - I bought a Bergara Premier Approach in 6.5 CR for my 8 year old, two years back. The target from factor shot a .25 MOA group with Hornady factory ammo. I bettered to .21 with hand loads, using the same 140 gr. ELD-M. I can shoot just over an inch groups at 500 yards. It’s fun, but I’ll take the medium bore any day.
It’s not that bad. As luck would have it I just bought a Model 70 in 416 rem mag. I wanted a safari rifle just for fun and just in case. The 416 is a nice shooter. Prior to shooting it I shot a 470 nitro express and had to have something like it and I found it manageable. Then I shot a 505 empire. The 505 is a 460 wby necked up and blown out to 505. There was nothing enjoyable about that one. First time I shot the 416 I was very relieved it was more like the 470 NE than the 505
@@K-bob_45 - I have a friend who is no slouch. His go to is a 338 Win Mag. He says the 460 Weatherby is the only rifle he’s afraid of lol.
Everything you need to know about bullets explained clearly and concisely and most importantly, his style makes it easy to remember. I've learned more from Mr. Spomer in three of his videos than I have from all other CZcams videos in the last 3 years.
Good stuff! And I would love to see a video with shooting tricks for recoil/flinch!
I agree. I have hunted with .375 in a Ruger falling block for 23yrs - fabulous caliber. It just works, but so does 30-06. Bullet design has put the most calibers in a more versitile posision. 375h&h with a 230gr copper expanding bullet make a great plains game round. 375 can mimic the trajectory of most hunting calibers, but so with 30-06... Versitility in bullets have come a long way in 30 years...
Both cartridges now have much more versatility then before with the advent of rifle bushings. We CNC manufacture bushings to safely down load rifle cartridges to achieve things never before possible, such as small game hunting with a 375 H&H …. Training, fire forming, flinch control training, Pop can plinking, youth shooting etc. Keep up the good work Ron!
Helluva round! I never really had a need for a 375...but it is pretty spiffy
I'm Amazed How Much You Relate, Thanks For Including The Rigby....
You are welcome.
Thanks. I've been considering the. 375 H&H for a while
Outstanding video as always, Ron!
Thanks Hagen.
Very interesting about the reason for the belt Ron. I was under the wrong impression about it myself. Thank you
Glad to help
The 30-03 was the parent case for the 270 Winchester and 280 Remington, it had a longer neck
Read your reloading manuals.
Ron Spomer! Love the ballistic type videos
Thanks Stable!
Love your videos! Very informative and with some humour. Can’t wait to get a Sako 85 30-06!!
Thanks Immune.
Fascinating story, I am motivated to learn more. I honestly did not know the reason for the belt on the cartridge case, I guess you can say I thought it was for the erroneous one you mentioned. But it was for headspacing! Makes sense to me. Thanks, sir!
Glad it was helpful!
G’day Ron, I’ve hunted for a long time with the 30-06 and the 375HH and I love them both.Yes the 30-06 would handle most game in Australia.Both rifles are Sako L691’s with Swarovski Z3 3-10 scopes.Long live these fine old cartridges.Cheers,Rob.
From the same era as the 375 H&H. There is a 9.3x74R cartridge for single shot and double guns. There is also a 9.3x62 Mauser cartridge for bolt action guns.
Right you are, Robert.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors … i know you knew. I posted for the people who don’t.
Most farmers however used the 9.3x62 as mauser offered it in a good standard lengh mauser actioned rifle that was much better priced than the expensive british rifles of the time , till this day the 9.3x 62 is one of the preferred calibres in south africa and for all practical reasons it is the same thing as a 375, if my memory serves me correct the 375h&h was developed to compete with the 9.3x62 .personally i would rather buy a 375 h&h as it can also be fitted on a opened up standard length action plus you have the added bonus of a much wider bullet range plus a bit of extra energy. If i remember correctly i think the 9.3 x62 has the same parent case as the 3006 as well in the 7x 57 but i might be wrong on that one. The only plus the 9.3x62 has over the 375 is the noticably less recoil.
@@vryheidvirdieboervolk973 … less recoil and lower price are important selling points.
@@Idahoguy10157 i fully agree with you sir
I doubt I'll ever be on the African continent again, so I'll hang onto my old sporterized Springfield I inherited back when. I do appreciate hearing someone properly pronouncing "sabot". Thank you!
Hey man is it a low number springfield by chance? Ive got one not sporterized
@@dakotrondakota9084 high number
I wish I could have held on to my inherited Griffin and Howe on a 1903 Springfield action that I once had. It was an absolutely fantastic rifle; stunning to look at, a joy to use. I managed to take it to Botswana twice, a couple of Canadian provinces on multiple occasions, and all over the western U.S.A......... Sadly, mine got destroyed in a fire.
If I still had it, I might not actually use it all that much now. It had a Lyman Model 48 aperture sight on it, sans provision for scope mounting. As a younger fella, I could make that work and didn't miss the telescopic sight it didn't have, but now? Now, I find punching the ten-ring at fifty yards with my aperture-sighted Remington 521-T almost more of a challenge than my tired old eyes can handle. In spite of that, I don't think I could have ever brought myself to D&T the old Griffin and Howe for a scope mount.
If I ever had a weakness for a particular firearm, the Model 1903 Springfield is "the one" for me.
Here's to hoping you get to enjoy yours for many years to come.
@@jerroldshelton9367 I'm two months away from my 70th birthday, so won't have too many more years. I enjoy holding it and remembering some fine shots it made.
@@leeleland1183 You might have more than you think. The fellow that willed me his Griffin and Howe Springfield was born in 1893 and he passed away at the age of 90.
He was out hunting with it three months before he died.
We was a spry and vigorous "man's man," right up to the end. He did a 14 day safari when he was 88 years old and would have done one the following year but something caused his hunting company to cancel the trip and refund his money.
No matter how many years I've got left, I'll go to my grave cherishing the memories I made with mine, too.
Really appreciate Ron. Great attitude, approach and content. Glad his experience is available for us.
Our pleasure!
Oh man, I'll never buy an H&H but I sure as hell will watch this video!
This guy gets it
I'll watch or read anything Ron puts his name on
@@bryonjmordhorst Me to
The 300 H&H is quite a cartridge you might enjoy.
@@sha6mm - I couldn’t agree more. It’s my favorite, with a 215 Berger. Deadly ☠️
Nice to hear you mention the .458 Lott. If you’re gonna go big, go BIG!!! Pretty sure the 30.06 will always be my favorite all around cartridge. Good vid. Thanks!!!
You are welcome.
It's hard to compare the two, cause they for different purposes. Apples to oranges. Although if I was gonna shoot a kodiak I'd favor the H & H.
Lots of powder in that case. If economy is part of your requirement then 30-06 is probably better. But if we’re being honest 10lbs of powder should do a lifetime with either caliber and bigger against a fat bear is always better.
Ron I love the way you break stuff down. Thank you for spreading the wisdom.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Both the 3006 and 37 are ideal rabbit and coyote loads. They work well on Red Squirrels as well.
Great video, Ron. I think your reasoning and conclusions are sound. For most of us, the 30-06 will handle most of what we're going to hunt in the U.S. It's the first caliber rifle I bought way back in the seventies. I still own that rifle and had it glass bedded and fitted with a recoil pad. It is a pleasure to shoot.
Thanks Saavy. How go the book sales?
9.3 X 62 is very compatible with the with the 375 HH without a magnum action and it’s recoil. Used the 9.3 X 62 with a 250 grain Barnes TSX 60 grains of Varget powder in South Africa. I liked it. Your own preference is what matters. Have a good shoot and have fun.
As a youth growing up in the ‘60’s watching Robert Stack hunting in Africa, I clearly remember the .375 H&H taking the big game. Loved watching on the weekend. I sure would hate to zero the rifle in with that cartridge. There were no muzzle breaks in those days! Interesting choice of calibers to compare but when you mention their offspring then it makes perfect sense. It’s amazing what the ‘06 has taken over the years. Another great educational video Ron! Thanks
My pleasure, John.
I use 165gr mono in my 3006 @ 2920fps and 250gr mono in my 375H&H (2600fps) in my plains game backup guiding for clients in South Africa. They are both great calibers. The 250gr in the 375H&H makes the caliber a great option out to 250m
Proper length of pull makes a big difference when it comes to managing The recoil. I would recommend anybody who's purchasing a rifle or who has a new rifle or even an old rifle take it down to your local gunsmith make sure they measure you and adjust it where they can to make you fit the shooter
Both are awesome and I have both! If I am in country where I’m not on the top of the food chain I go for the 375 H&H.
Love to see info/episodes on the 250 and 300 savage cartridges
Me too!
Same. Would love to especially hear about the 300.
Hear hear. The .300 was the upstart punk challenger to the early .30-06 loads, and offered that in a lever action. Also is essentially the direct ancestor of a whole string of cartridges starting with the .308 Winchester ccase
.250-3000 Savage. A misunderstood. wonder cartridge. It really did what the .243 does and did it decades before.....in a lever action.
Been watching your videos for a while now. You are presenting information in a very useful, exploratory, and easily understood format. Happy to subscribe to your channel and improve my knowledge of the many various topics you bring to the discussions.
Great to hear! Thanks.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors
You're welcome!👍🏿
No nonsense here like shooting sacks of Walmart flour, pig carcasses, exploding red smoke canisters, or similar CZcams hokum. (Now that I've subbed, watch an algorithmic recommendation pop up in my inbox of you massacring a crash-test dummy with a .50 BMG) [Laffin'😄]
Great video Ron.. to me just makes the.06 look even better.
Thanks Lloyd.
I love the 375 h&h. Got some 250 gr Speer bullets loaded up for hogs just for fun. Fun caliber and not as bad of recoil as you would think.
A someone going on a hog hunt later this year with my 45-70. This SOUNDS like an excuse to purchase another rifle.
Hey Ron , great video on the 375 H&H magnum and the 308 Winchester magnum!😁
Thanks William. That 308 Magnum continues to impress, doesn't it?
the main "trick" to shooting good is to always let the shot catch you off guard... when the shot surprises you ..you tend to not flinch if you don't expect the shot.. it may seem strange to you in the beginning but you'll get better as you shoot more...guess i'll edit a bit some didn't get my point..as you get accustomed to shooting more you will know when your shot will go off and you will have become used to the "kick" of recoil..and thus you will become a better shot...and no i don't think a shot should surprise you if you hunting D.G...by the time you are good enough to hunt those you should be well accustomed to shooting hi power rounds
There is a difference between shooting from the bench and shooting at game. I don't know about others but I do not feel recoil when shooting at game.
@@russellkeeling9712 me either
@@russellkeeling9712 Absolutely correct; a 700 Nitro Express has a recoil energy of approximately 160 ft⋅lbf (220 J). When you're adrenaline goes up on a charging Bull Elephant and you pull that trigger on that 700 NE, you're concentration on that moment will void the perceived recoil in other words your brain will erase the perceived recoil, you will not be aware of flinch or pain.
Great video Ron. Thanks for sharing!
I've grown to look to Mr. Spomer for informative and educational videos.
You are a true joy to watch sir! Thank you for the fine work!
Many thanks, Ditzy.
Both good guns Ron , but I love my 375 h and h and my 300 win mag 🖒🖒
Thank you for the info Ron.
Great video Ron! I never get tired of these discussions that get down to what the outfitters recommend. My Dad was a 36 year Marine who fought in Korea, Vietnam and a few places that were classified. He was on the USMC Rifle and Pistol teams and taught me how to shoot. I am often asked to help people figure out why their new rifles aren't accurate. More than 90% of the time its because of poor fundamentals ESPECIALLY FLINCH!
Thanks Rev. Steve. Fundamentals are fundamentals, indeed.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors Thanks Ron, I often use the, "Is it loaded?" technique to show shooters their flinch.
Great presentation, as usual. Thanks Ron! 👍
Thank you for one of the most enjoyable videos that I have seen in quite a while. Keeping up with the latest and greatest is nice, but it is pleasure to go take a seat in the old school house and get a refresher on our cartridges that set the standard for everything else. They may not be new anymore but they are just as relevant today as they were back then. I do not mind people who always want the newest thing out there, but as for me, I will stick with what I know works. Plus it's a pleasure listening to a lecture from someone who knows what he is talking about.
If you do take requests, I would love to hear your thoughts on one of my favorite calibers, the 35 Whelen.
Thanks William. 35 Whelen coming soon.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors
Looking forward to it. Thank you.
... and my lever action 45-70 will come along for big beasties
Trail Boss powder can go a long way "loading down" the .458 cal bruiser. Very versatile straight-walled cartridge for sure.
As a 06 and 375 owner I would have to say I agree with your assessment.
You really do need to do a video on how to handle recoil.
Recoil handling video coming up soon, T.
Thanks for the great videos Ron
Looking forward to see more
More to come!
Another fantastic and informative presentation Ron comparing the versatility of the .30-06 vs the .375 H&H. I have rifles in both these calibers and enjoy shooting them; however, I rarely shoot or take the 375 H&H on a hunt unless I am specifically going after brown bear.
Living in Alaska, I have to be wary about the brown bear; however, with a 200 or 220 grain bullet in the 30-06 I am confident I can put him down quickly. I really like the performance of the Nosler partion bullet (200 and 300 grain) for both cartridges.
Keep up the good work with your presentations.
Thank you James.
Good luck with that.
You should try the Woodleigh 180gr PPSN in your '06 - it's a fantastic bullet. My daughter even took a 100pt NT water buffalo with it. 👍
@@idleonlooker1078 Thank you! I will give it a try.
Another enjoyable video! Thank you for sharing your experience & knowledge.
Thanks Phillip.
Much as I love my 375 H&H, the 30-06 is still the one I reach for damn near every time. More pleasant to shoot, so I'll practice more, less to carry over the course of a long hunting day, and ammo I can actually find, so I'm not tempted to hoard it instead of shoot it.
Awesome video, and couldn't agree more with everything said here.
Thanks madaxe.
Ron, I'm lucky enough to own a number of hunting rifles and one of them is a Model 70 Safari Express in 375H&H. My rifle's felt recoil for both 270g and 300g rounds is more than a 30-06 but not as abrupt as several 300 magnums I've shot over the years. I've shot several larger calibers and I'll take my 375 any day of the week.
My go-to rifle is a 7x57 but it's nice to know there's more horsepower in the safe. Then again, between Mr Bell and Mr Corbett, I know the 7x57 (275Rby) is no slouch either, if I do my part. And as you stated, it's all about shot placement!
Take care and be well.
My two favorite calibers
Sweet video. I didn't really understand the story behind the belted magnums until I watched this. (I'm more of a shotgun hunter myself, but thought I ought to know more about rifles than just, "I dunno, use a 30-06" so here I am, lol.)
Thanks Ron for this most interesting history. Always enjoy your stories and history mixed with technical facts.
You are welcome, Don.
Love the 375. I have a magnum Mauser 98 chambered in it with a steel butt plate and I love it.
I think the 30-06 makes sense as the perfect all rounder in N.America/Europe but for us in Africa the 357H&H still rules the roost. With heavy for caliber expanding projectiles (350gr & 380gr) it shines on thick skinned heavy game. I shot a hippo on land after a friend of mine put in a well placed shoulder shot & the hippo was departing, trying to get back to water. That shot entered just forward of the rump & ended up under the skin on the far side after transversing almost the entire animal. Much respect from zimbabwe 🇿🇼
Great video. I have very limited knowledge about any calibers beyond the low .30 range, however now I am curious how the recoil compares to my 8mm Mauser. (I never noticed the belt on cartridges, but now I know their purpose. That's why I enjoy these types of videos, I can always pick up something)
In simular rifles you cant tell the diffrense between 30-06 and 8x57
I really like the 375 loaded with a 235gr Speer Hot Cor. It’s probably the only rifle you need on this continent….if you handload. There are even powder puff loads using a round ball for very small game. Alas, these are boutique hand loads.
For sure, both the 06 and 375 H&H are great cartridges. very versatile and both have splendid success in the game fields. I see them each having a spectrum that overlaps in the middle. I remember Elmer Keith saying that the 270 made a good coyote rifle, I don't think Elmer ever said the same for the 375. Now for you who does not know who Elmer is, he was a big bore fan, and the father of the 44 Magnum. If I lived in Alaska and hunting Blacktails on Kodiak Isl. I would consider the 375 as a good choice. If I were hunting deer, or Elk in my home state of Colorado, I would favor the 06, because there are no Brownies prowling around in the bushes.
I always keep eyeing up that beautiful Sako Kodiak in .375 HH... However, I load my Tikka 30-06 with 165 grain Nosler Partitions/R17 for incredible flat shooting and I load up 220 grain Nosler Partition/H4831 for closer range light magnum power. 30-06 is in fact very versatile for a hand loader. The available loads and projectiles are many.
My new Winchester Model 70 (the Alaskan) in .30-06 is my overall favorite rifle. This includes all my bolt guns and my LMT/Colt AR's.
My Dad used to say,06 is good for any big game in North America
Hay Ron ,this is Ron , old time Alaskan . My two carries are 3006 and 375 so i'm covered . One rifle for Alaska for my Son is the 300 win mag & the Colt 44 mag . Lots of choices =good luck or lots of practice .
You mentioned the 55 grain Accelerator in the .30-06. My particular rifle doesn't like these. However, my rifle just loves most lot numbers of MILSURP M2AP cartridges and will shoot MOA all day. Use it for field position practice. This way, if I miss, I know it's me and not the ammo.
Remember those rounds that Remington made back in the early 1980’s.
Great info as always sir. You and Paul Harrell, although very different styles, are my most trustworthy sources.
I appreciate that!
Hi Ron, this Ron, loves his Winchester Model 70 Manlicher in 30 '06, and have shot deer with it for years now! But I love shooting my .375 H & H, even though I only have one deer to my credit with this load, it's a pleasure to shoot because this fully stocked Model 70 weighs more. And I can custom hand load plinker rounds and shoot an entire box at the range, and I'm definitely a small framed guy! Great video! Would love to see you do a video exploring solid copper bullets now being legislated in states like California.
Search for my video on Copper Bullets vs Lead Core -- How They Work.
RON,REALLY ENJOYED THIS VIDEO. I LOVE BOTH CALIBERS.
Thanks Jimmie
I have never really bought into the 30-06 even though it is a wonderfully versatile cartridge. I have always loved the .270 (Winchester and Weatherby) which for me has filled what a 30-06 would do. After a lifetime of playing with things going boom I have settled on a .416 Rigby for everything.
The 270 Weatherby is my all-time favorite. 0 Sixers are like Aholes, everybody's got one. As a Young Man I was reading Jack O'Connor. My first rifles were 270s and 30 ought 6's. Then I read an article by Colonel Charles Askins. He was a magnum guy. That's when I came into my own. I carry a 300 Weatherby most of the time. Askins said if he could have only one rifle to hunt the world it would be a 300 Weatherby. It's just that good.
When I read the ballistics of the 338 Winchester Magnum with the 250 gr.
Silvertip bullet my eyes popped right out of my head. I knew I had to have one. It's still one of my favorites along with the 340 Weatherby.
@kevinstrickland8030 do you mean as a one rifle for any game? the 375H&H will do the same
@@evanrodriguez4234I know the .375 H&H is probably a bit better for smaller critters. My CZ 550 in .416 Rigby is a lot more fun to shoot than my .375. Enjoyment of the rifle is at least as important as the round used and, after so many years, rifles, and cartridges I have settled on what makes me happy. I have many choices but .416 Rigby does everything I could want a round to do. I have limited my shots to no more than 150 yards because of personal preference but have used it out past 250 yards with no problems.
22 LR for squirrels to coyotes 30-06 for deer to elk 375h&h for bears moose and African game, those are the 3 most versatile calibers on planet earth for any game in the world imo
Great info thank u.
You are welcome, David.
Well done Sir, thanks, appreciate your time
My pleasure