Method 704s Titanium on the Raptor
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2020
- We got new wheels!! Method 704's in Titanium grey.
Correction from the Video, this wheels are actually rated for 2680 lbs. only the 701's have the higher load capacity with 6 lug pattern.
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Really nice (I had no idea the Nitto G2s were much bigger than the BFGs
Yeah. You can get them wider too. These were 13.5. Typically most at 12.5
Sweet combination, that color wheels goes perfect with the blue of the raptor
Jhonny Garcia thanks man. It was a risk but I had a feeling it would look good
On my dad's Gen1 Raptor it has method rims 17inch. I believe they have been on there since 2015 and there still going strong!
Like the color combo, I have a set of icon compressions sitting in my garage... Can't decide if I wanna mount true 35s or give 37s a go. Excited to see your next video on how it went on the trails .
Keep up the great work - love your stuff
David Figs some may think twice after the next video. I went to test on worst case scenario trails.
I like my method wheels. They are very strong so far.
You might need a set of the chief Machining centering caps. My NV's were killing me trying to chase an unbalancing. Turns out, the wheels were balanced, but solely relying on the wheel bolts as centering wasn't enough to keep them centered on the hub. Bought a set of the caps, vibrations instantly gone.
Nice wheels, I like the design as far as not having to bead lock your tires!
Erik Racz yeah, that was a selling point for me. Love my Beadlocks, but hate all the time it takes to work on them
I rock the 702's on my tacoma and theyre the best wheels ever!
Tacoma’s are overrated (with all due respect).
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I stress out about people watching over my shoulder like a hawk. I know what im doing its just kinda annoying. Either way badass wheels and set up.
These guys were great. I was not judging them or anything. Just documenting what they do since everyone is so nervous about aftermarket sensors working with the truck. These guys got it to work and luckily they let me film it.
Truck is looking killer dude!
Thanks man 🙏
Really like the chase rack, I looked through your other videos but couldn’t find any info on it. Where did you get it?
I have a few videos of the evolution of the chase rack on the channel. Here is the latest
Raptor Chase Rack Ver 3 czcams.com/video/xYGmKr6nIc0/video.html
👍🏽🔥🔥🔥badass 😎
trdtacopro39 thanks
I dont get it...
Didn't you say a few months ago that Methods were junk and you have seen several broken on your runs?
Dont ask yep, the typical method wheels that everyone gets are junk. They only have a 2500 load capacity and most get them for looks. The trail series are different. 3600 load carrying capacity, bead grip, and cheap. No one else offers that.
Look great. How much does each wheel weigh? I can't find any data on the Method site.
R A don’t know. We were in a rush to get them mounted so we had them for the weekend.
But we did F-UP on the weight capacity. The 701s have their higher weight capacity.
So what was end result with sensor? Did you use their new sensor or have to get 6 new ones from Ford?
b pospolyta watch the video man. We were able to use their sensors once he plugged into the OBDII port
I like those, but do 0 offset wheels rub on stock suspension and tires? Thanks.
Check the follow up videos on our 37in tire series. Lots of rubbing and we went thru 2 stages of trimming required to clear the tires offroad at full articulation
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I did watch all of those, and they are what changed my mind on attempting 37s with a 1" lift :D ...lol I've pretty much assumed any changes to wheels or tires without heavy modifications could cause rubbing when pushed near the limit. Thanks for the great content!
Ah ok. So you going 35s with 0 offset?
If that’s the case, yes, there is still some rubbing at full tuck. But mainly on the fender flares. Most just do a leveling collar to avoid it and are fine. It’s actually the most common config of these trucks
The nitto tires were brand new or used?
These were used, I had them on the last truck for about 2k miles before I put them on this one with new wheels
Overkill
What is?
How much of the load rating is related to the lug pattern? It seems that the load rating of these is 2,650# (6 lugs). The exact same wheel with 8 lugs is 3,640#. Is that saying that the lugs are the limiting factor and ~2,560# is the highest you can get without swapping to an 8 lug pattern? I have found a couple other examples of similar occurrences
Chad D I don’t know enough about it, but your probably right.
I have seen wheel manufacturers provide wheels that can be stronger than the lugs though. Example, most aftermarket Beadlocks are rated for 3600-3800 lbs. the wheel construction itself is that strong.
Looking back at this video I did fuck up. 704s are rated for 2680. But if you get the 701s in 6 lug, they are stronger at 3640. Again that’s just the wheel, and I’m sure you are correct that the lugs are still limited to 2680.
The actual lugs are not a factor when it comes to the load rating of a wheel. What Method is doing here is a bit mis-leading and marketing fluff by saying their wheels achieve a load rating "up to 3640lbs". The load rating of a wheel is determined as part of the engineering process. The engineers decide how much material to add or remove, and in what areas to add that material to increase strength and load rating. However, more material typically leads to a heavier wheel, so they are trying to find the right balance. There are a ton more details when it comes to designing wheels, but load rating is determine during the engineering process. The 6-lug and 8-lug wheels are not just simple a lug pattern change, but an entirely different engineering design. I'm willing to bet the 8-lug wheel is a lot heavier than the 6-lug.
Their 8-lug wheels (which are typically designed for larger and heavier trucks), do have a load rating of 3640lbs. Their 6-lug wheels are designed with a load rating of 2680lbs, since the standard for most Raptor wheels has been around the 2500-2600 mark. They just wanted to be a little bit stronger :)
A 2600lb load rating has been proven to be just fine on Raptors. Even Innov8's forged Raptor wheels only have a load rating of 2600. However, engineering a beefier lip or better designed spokes to handle abuse can also play a role in how your wheels perform. That's why you see some wheels fail, while others are fine, even though they have the same load rating.
Matt C thanks for the explanation. Because the 701s have a very different construction and have the higher load rating. When I looked at a few wheels, I liked the trail series because there was a extra metal around the spokes and where the bead grip is. It’s not much, but for me (someone that has bent 3 forged wheels) it can make a difference
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad No problem! My experience is mostly in motorsport wheels, but the general ideas are the same for truck wheels. Load rating is important, but so is the design of the spokes and lip. It looks like the trail series definitely fit the bill when it comes to a beefy lip, and I would definitely consider them if I ever replace the current wheels on my Raptor.
Are these the titanium or titanium gunmetal? Or matte black? Bc I’m seeing all 3 online and even the matte black looks gray haha
Titanium. They look great. But dirty they do blend in with the tire more than I would like. But still dig the look and prefer it over black
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yeah I have a black truck. I started with black methods and then went with bronze and now I’m wanting something more subtle/sleek. And I like the titanium look. I think it would compliment the black truck nicely.
I think so too man. I hate an all black truck. Need something to break up all that black. But that’s just me.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad at first, I was all about all black. And then I started to agree with you. I won’t go back to all black. I like my black truck with bronze right now but they are a little too loud I think. I think these titanium will be my next move. They’re simple, sleek, and significant.
@@Jciatt1997 black on booze does look good though.
If you want to free up some space in the garage and want to give me your old stocks or the 4wp I will gladly make that sacrifice 😝😜hahaha
I have issues with my rear right sensors was going to either take it back to big brand for reprogramming since they installed theirs or when I take it in for service but I can’t seem to get it to work. It sorta reads it but totally wrong pressure and then it says fault and stops reading it.
Wait, are those nitto’s 35 or 37
Phil O it shows it in the video. They are 37” by 13.5” wide
Blue truck needs bronze wheels
🤷♂️ to each his own.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Solid decision on the Method 704 wheels. Can't go wrong with any color.
Factory beadlocks are better. No pain, no gain
Yes and no.
They are better in that it’s a stronger rim and the Beadlocks allows you to run lower pressure and keeps the tire on the rim in case of a flat.
BUT, high speed off-roading requires pressure. You can’t go too low because at 60+ mph the only thing protecting the wheels is the pressure in the tire.
I run 28-32 because I’ve bent 3 stock forged Beadlocks running 25 or lower. Most race teams use 32, again to protect the wheels.
Beadlocks also means you have to do all the work. You mount, You dismount, you repair the tires. A tire swap took me a full day of work going back and forth between the shop and my garage. Too much work and not worth it
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I hear you, plus I’d imagine you’re recreational off roading. Trying to keep it as fun as possible. Personally I think those rims you have are nice.
Thanks man. And yeah. My builds spend most of their time on dirt.
I like the 4 wheel parts weels better. I know you didnt buy them for looks but those methods are ugly.
TheHardcoreLife to each his own. I did not buy the 4WP wheels. They were given to me. And there are 2 main reasons I did not like them. 1. Load rating is low for a Raptor. They have a lifetime structural warranty, but I don’t want to have to worry.
2. They are all black. I don’t like all black wheels. I need some color. An all black wheel on a truck looks like everyone else and shows no imagination or taking any risk to look different.
So based on function alone, the Method 704 is a much better wheel.