AI Versus Being - Vandana Shiva
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2021
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The discussion focuses on Chapters 4 & 5 of the AI book. Computer Science is taking over R&D in genomes. How is AI related to intellectual property theft in agriculture, traditional medicines, and plants? Dr. Vandana Shiva is world famous as a champion of India’s rights of plant-based intellectual property, traditional agriculture, etc. against global giants. This is a vibrant discussion that ought to wake up leaders of farmers’ rights, animal rights, science, privacy and data laws, globalization, decolonization, etc.
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The real intellectuals of the world. I hope we produce more such beings to protect the future of life and earth.
AI is the most terrifying weapon of tyranny I could ever imagine.
Im a true muslim. I follow both of you. Thank you for opening our eyes to the true enemy.
I'm a Christian, but I completely agree with all 3 of you. AI is the Enemy Incarnate.
People of all faiths (or no faith) are all equally vulnerable to this emerging technological, imperialistic elite, and we have to stand together against any attempt at using this new power against the people.
We have to preserve the immeasurable heritage of all yogic traditions. Instead of seeking fulfillment through external gadgets, which require more and more fossil energy, we can turn to the amazing techniques that were developed by so many yogis.
Indian traditions are the true bedrock for a regenerative and life-affirming world.
Two very dedicated persons, fighting for humanity.
not persons, but Beings! .. (::)
She's an anti Capitalist conspiracy theorist... who derails india's growth train... and a part of Breaking India forces..
Dear RajivJi, this sounds like the matrix movie of Keanu Reaves.....In this movie, Neo (acted by Keanu Reaves) fights a super computer which is controlling all living beings. This movie was ahead of its time.
I am very fortunate to watch two legends, and the knowledge that is shared
She's an anti Capitalist conspiracy theorist... who derails india's growth train... and a part of Breaking India forces..
Brilliant interview, discussion and so much of information from 2 top brilliant scholars - Rajiv ji and Vandana ji 😊🙏🏽🙏🏽🇮🇳👌🏽
What 💯👌 did your yourself.. Ask my roll ask your family👪 sir make
🔥Fire.. To ❤💕hearts.
Create our nation.. Spread to startup
Sir your lectures are worth more than gold. I am a student and will contribute towards the goal
Kindly share this video to "ALL" the fellow students senior / junior "UPFRONTLY" whether you know them or not.
Wow I can hardly wait to get the book I just ordered. We must stop Gates from this terrorism with a smile. Two great minds here. Thank you
And eon musk
I used to like eon musk thought he was in intelligent but is so wrong its criminal agaist humanity
@@ellyjane9703 Seems to me, that with all of Elon Musk's warnings. He is actually begging us to stop him. Just my observation.
Dr Vandana Shiva, aware of the man made climate change & speaks against the ELITE yet here we see Dr Vandana sitting with Greta who is supported by the 1% Oneness Green revolution run by the Billionaires club
twitter.com/NotreAffaire/status/109890570 DOUBLE TALK. IS IT PART OF THE DECEIT? puppet? are these people all in on it pretending to be one of us? and the ring patterns? whats that all about? amazingpolly.net speaks of the symbols will be their down fall right? or is it my imagination. even though i love the pattern, what it stands for many are oblivious to
For that we need to get away from 5G to start with!!!
She is legend 🙏. Godfather to farmers
GodMother :-)
@@RajivYadav-xz8xp She's an anti Capitalist conspiracy theorist... who derails india's growth train... and a part of Breaking India forces..
I'm on this level, an educator, organizer, artist, tiller of the land, promoter of indigenous and revolutionary folk and ideas. Thank you, keep going.
Vandana Shiva is crystal clear about how humans are supposed to live in harmony with nature,with each other and other species.This is the only way for lasting peace and further evolution of mankind.It was practised in ancient India but the nincompoop Westerners came to civilise the most civilised society on Earth
Thank you Rajiv ji and Vandana ji for all what you have been doing for humanity. I really admire both of you.
Vananda Shiva & Rajiv are both a treasure. Real great points debated here. So Enjoyable... to watch ❤️ Never give up! ✨
I’m Jamaican living in Canada and I love you guys. Everyone sold out. There used to be a Rastafarian movement in Jamaica that would speak for human rights but now everyone is quiet. Everyone sold out and are distracted on the internet
Meeting of two great Indian minds on AI. Really revaleling in its content.
I became aware of it when covid first hit- I am very spiritual and it kept entering my dreams
She’s very positive. Awesome 👏
She is positive no matter what is thrown
I think the best is to become more and more spiritual. Spirituality will empower us from within and thus no be outside power will overtake us. We should try our best to do away with Facebook, Google and smart phones. in the olden days these technologies were not available yet we lived peacefully 🙏🙏🙏
Wow! Spiritual guides with the most incredible insight. 🙌
Its reassuring to see someone finally getting what Rajivji is talking about. I had heard of Vandanaji's name. But didnt know just how brilliant she is. Will look forward to more conversations and hopefully some practical and implementable ideas to address this civilizational challenge...
We are fortunate to be a part of these great intellectuals discussions.. always amazed to hear from vandana ji.. always like to listen her
The "spinning wheel" is a superb metaphor...the universe spins us into the diversity of life and is far grander than all the promises of AI.
It's also an ancient symbol, a literal metaphor of the energies this planet is comprised of - The Wheel of Fortune in Tarot - the true meaning of the Swastika (a beautiful symbol). Human consciousness, ntention and will influences how this wheel, cog turns. Research the fylfot cross...
Thank you for such enlightening and wonderful session. 🙂
watching Vandana is always a pleasure. Now a days you don't see many women with such a big BINDI. The other two I know are Usha Uthup and our most respected Late Sushma Swaraj.
Listeing to her is always enlighteing. She again is a rare person who not only talks about the issues, she fights headon on ground to make change happen.
Not a thinker, not a talker but all the way upto a doer.
I love your compassion and your spirit Dr V. Shiva . I am so grateful for your help in understanding the world. The small farmers in my state IDAHO I gave them your videos. Seems like facsism overlords to me.. Gates monsondo Beyer has really fooled so many my own states they sold him land in my state. 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you vandana shiver
I'll be waiting for Vandana ji to host shows on AI with Shri Rajiv ji.
Koti Koti Pranaam Guruji Devi Hara Hara Mahadev 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for your contribution to humanity and this beautiful planet.
Tremendously important talk. thank you very much. peoples of the world should wake up
Namaskar to both of you Rajiv and Vandana you are our heroes fighting fir humanity.
Dr Vandana Shiva Really Great
Please make more and more videos on this topic...as a responsible citizen of India, I shall share it with as many as possible..
I loved and respect the comment of the honourable Dr Vandana Shivar " .... the Ganga, Himalayaare our sacred areas where our leaned people went and wrote the Vedas, because that's where you have the most intimate connection with the universe..." Yes the Himalayas can keep us Indians rooted, we can and should take the help of nature, try to keep ourselves connected with nature - the forests, Himalayas, Ganga, rivers, birds , animals , the villages, the village people etc to keep us rooted, to get positive energy and mental support from nature, and that will help us from becoming totally digitalized. If we can travel to these places, go for treks, then we can still remain human beings, still remain as ' users of technology' and not become 'products' in the hands of the top tech corporate firms of the world, we will have the power to stop them from utilizing us and eating our brains and becoming puppets in their hands! Other than influencing adult men and women If you can inspire students, influence them, then it can work wonders. Mountain treks can be organized for School , college and University students , Indian and foreign, taken to a virgin land, where no technology works, and then amidst nature tell them whatever you have to say. Camp for a day or two and make them listen, trigger their interest, and then see the wonder. I think first an awareness has to be created. Awareness among the common people of the world, the housewives, the students, teachers, engg students, medical students etc. If these tech Giants think they can use us, make us puppets, then it is time we turn around and utilize them, their technologies for our purpose, and for that we can start at the grassroot level.
Vandana Shiva madam is too good..
Can't wait for this dialogue !! 😍 Two of my favorite mentors ❤️
Thank you so much
Absolutely eye opening!
Brilliant discussion with clear warnings. Damage has already started. For example smart phone, apps,video games particularly pse etc. are damaging the future of juveniles.
At any rate individuality has to be preserved.
Health I mean mental health of juveniles has to be protected. Please do whatever is necessary and possible. Nothing can be expected from government
Thank u both for spreading the truth
With high respect I bow down to both the above dignitaries I wish no harm comes to them because of these open discussions which are potentionally eye opening and incur, future loss to big corps. Was wonderful to hear them explain our future.
Rajiv Ji and Vandana Ji, great discussion. Thank you Rajiv Ji for your book and thank you Vandana Ji for grasping the matter,, articulating the crux so clearly and enriching it with your own experience and wisdom.
Rajiv Ji, Why are you surprised when you are not finding any takers in businesses and govts? Why would they be interested in it? They are the beneficiaries. It is the common people of the world who will be affected by it, so you must try to find your audience at the grassroots level. In my view, you should take bottom up approach, not top down. It requires a mass movement.
Rajivji is a rare bread of champions that keep giving at the highest order. One thing that I have observed is that legislators and governments are unable to keep pace with speed of technology and thereby needing to play catch-up constantly. To legislate against something like AI requires leadership to also be at the same cutting edge pace as the technology innovators.
Hearing this wonderful conversation has made my day!!! thank you sir and ma'am
You give me hope 🙏
Great idea... Some laws have to be put in place to regulate this technology & punish immediately, people in high places, who don't follow them OR else it'll take the course of the covid situation where doctors, hospitals & all linked industries are being manipulated by some few people to increase their wealth multiple times unscrupulously🙏
Vanadana Siva and Rajiv Malhotra. You are the real leaders of thought. How to enlighten Indias leaders. That is our hope for Bharata Varsa.
Awe inspiring . Wish my intellectual family will read the book. I know I will.
Like: "AI can take over only if we allow the dumbing down.", " AI should not be in the drivers seat". Dr. Vandana Shiva has given a few powerful punch lines. There are more. " Everytime they sell perfection, behind this are side effects" ...Can someone collect those moments together in a trailer video for this? It will be worthwhile.
This was exactly my thought
You are both so inspiring. ..looking forward to your discussion.
Two of my favourite idols together . Thank you very much
Happy to see you both...respect n regards to both of U
Two great minds telling us the truth!
Very interesting Rajiv, I have been mulling over these “things” for sometime. Spiritual quantum reality vs mechanistic reductionism is the core issue - as you are eluding. India has a Soul which shines through such dark yug - let’s remember the fundamental truth of Infinite Power (BRAHMA)
vs limited power (maya).
I love vandana mam, I never miss her lectures..
As a famous philosopher said,power has evaporated upwards to multi national companies from nation states
Chomsky?
when we see our loved ones deceived so disgracefully our hearts bleed
Respected Rajiv and Vandana, the Panel you discuss should also include the likes of Yuval Noah Harari who is well aligned to your views.
I look forward to the Panel discussion.
Brilliant.I really appreciate this message 🌺🌅🌺
Two enligthening brains of humanity..warmest hug from indonesia
One of the best interviews on your book coverage series
Love your work sir❤️❤️❤️👍
Pranaam Rajiv Ji and Vandana Ji 🙏 Thank you for this illuminating conversation
Thank You!🙏❤️
Already two weeks late in my feed! Love our matriarchs.
We should never concede moral leadership and control to corporate technology. Both global business and global politics have proven themselves as leading without any moral compass because only power and profit motivate them. Freedom is essentially a state of Realisation, an insight which comes from understanding and renouncing bondage.
Sir and madam I'm interested. Your discussions have given me food for thought. I might be an ordinary housewife. But try to utilize housewives like us and ofcourse the student generation ,the young generation - they are technically strong, and most of them are very logical , they have a high reasoning power. So if people like you can put it in their notice, bring it to their attention , they are the future citizens c the world!, Yes you are right , in our government there are mostly uneducated people. And media has proved itself to be like a jumping clown, shouting and screeching on unimportant issues. And political parties again do not have the brains, the education, the depth, the seriousness , the ability to listen to whatever you have to say and understand it, because lack of education and knowledge has rendered them useless , and they feel secured to dance about with petty stupid unimportant issues - and we have to understand why they do that - It is beyond their capacity ! Whatever you all are saying is just going above their heads, they don't have the brains to understand that! And we have to understand that too! Whatever you are trying to say, trying to warn us about - to understand that , first a person has to have some basic education, then the ability to concentrate and listen carefully and patiently, then the person has to have the ability and the power to think, to ponder, only then will a person be able to understand you all only a bit. One has to hear your discussions, talks, again and again carefully with concentration - only then one will get a sketch of what is happening and what more is going to happen. Once again I humbly request you to make use of housewives who have a minimum level of education, and make use of the student generation. Intellectuals like you, educationists, social workers, IT experts, thinkers, will definitely come out with a way to make ordinnary common people listen, to trigger their interest . After all one shouldn't underestimate the power of the common man!
only possible way seems to me starts in exposing the crimes of 'gates to hell' ; nandri 🕉☸🙏
Rajiv ji.....Everyday is an Enlightenment with such Talks from Pioneers and After Effect is Less-Sleep and more Thinking coming days....Fastforward after few days...Evolving into Conscious Being to be IK 2.0
You both are great genius. A remarkable talk..... Javaid Khan
I totally agree with your analysis and really concerned for the future of our nation. Our Government and Ministers should take this matter to the highest priority concern and make a plan to safeguard our lives from again making us colonial country.
Thank you for such great insight🙏🏻
Thanks so much for opening our eyes🙂
Really very informative as was expected
An Eye Opener indeed. Thank you Sir and Ma'am for such an enlightening discussion. I have ordered the book 'Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Power' today. Can't wait to read it ! I wish I could connect to the group/panel which was discussed towards the end of the discussion, and contribute to my level best in spreading awareness of the danger, warning bells of which are already ringing.
With due respect to Smt Vandana Shiva, this is my view. Smt Vandana Shiva, has a good experience at raising and working on the issues of main concern that matters. Here she is NOT answering to the points being raised. I felt, she is rather diverging or beating around the bush - nevertheless with critical and eye opening observations.
Pleasure listening to the conversation
I'm very thankful, I'll be alert.......🙏🙏🙏👌👌💐
Was expecting more from this interview, still great
This is gonna be interesting ! 😄
This is the end game . The battle for the soul. Satan ,whose desire is to be omniscient thinks he can do so only if everyone is within his web. . That’s why the push to get everyone-in, to finally mark with his mark(patent) to be owned and destroyed. Come to the One who gave us freedom and Life.
Excellent. Truly wisdom message
It's fitting that we call it The Web since it's filled with Spiders!
Thanks for boldly speaking the truth. People must not take the Mark (vaccines, maybe, or perhaps whatever comes after them...)
Don't despair. Satan knows his time is short!
I swear by Allah that this is what exactly implied in the Quran that we are all but one humanity and we should help each other but not to compete with each other. That will induce us to achieve more and more positive energy and to interact with the positive energy field around us. But the iblis (devil) through his followers has been driving us towards a controlled humanity & earth. Man, you 2 are more muslim than us in terms of your thought process ! Salute to you Rajiv Ji and the greatest mother Vandana maji !
Tks, Dr Vandana Shiva should be the PM of India. A fighter, always! #womenleadership #India
"always so great to hear truth." (fyi, no illness in the body is cured, it's simply being removed while the immune system does it's work by making that body immune to those diseases) .. "Being a Human vs. a Human hoping to Become god" (::) "Thanks.. , in Love is Light"
Right said sir
Very good point made by Vandana ji ... power on inevitability and absoluteness must be taken out .... since it has never been proven ... but it has created fear and cowered us down ...enslaved us
Great
Very insightful. The spinning wheel . I hppe that you two brillant individuals can lay down the foundation for the future generations to deal with AI controlled by
these 21st Century Imperialist
Aap dono ne jo kaha sab sahi sach kaha. I m chemical specialist as well as network and security Engineer. I also provided many proofs to my relatives, friends abou how they are controlling to all of us but they are ignoring. They want only entertainment, time pass. They said what can we do I said we can boycott and fight against this slavery. But not even single person is showing interest in this.
Don't give up hope! I'm sure there's lots of folks who would love to work with you! If I lived in India I certainly would! Because if the technocrats' visions for the world become reality, it will be so much scariest than any form of slavery we've ever seen.
I totally agree, I also feel helpless after seeing reaction of my family and friends, they think of me as conspiracy theorist. If I can't even convince my family and friends,how can it make any difference
WOW RAJIV JI ! CONVERSATION BETWEEN TWO OF MY MOST FAVORITE DHARMIC WARRIORS !! HURRAY
it so insightful to listen to your discussion . keep such discussion more in future .
Wonderful 🙏
It feels like even Lord Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma , The Father, Allah etc too are big techies whose reign are getting challenged by the big techies on earth.
*AI very strong power multi-being-world-super-brain*
3i हम भारत के लोग विदेशी संस्कृति के इतने मजबूत गुलाम बन गए हैं कि अपने धार्मिक पर्व-त्योहारों की बधाई भी परायी और विदेशी "अंग्रेजी" भाषा में देते हैं।
*AI very strong power multi-being-world-super-brain, TRUE ALGRITHUMS MANUFACTURE PROCESS, IDENTITY THEFT/DUPLICATES/TIKtoks + PATENTED HIGH VALUE ABOVE GOVTS LAWS NON-HUMAN BIRTHS-DEATHS ≠ SECURITY/BRAIN-INSULATION-AI IMP*
*सनातन धर्म के अनेक नारे विश्व में प्रसिद्ध हो रहे हैं जैसे वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम्, सत्यमेव जयते, संगच्छध्वम् संवद्ध्वं, अतिथि देवो भव, मातृदेवो भव इत्यादि क्योंकि इनकी भीतरी भावना अद्भुत है आज पश्चिमी देशों के अनेक विद्वान वहाँ की प्राचीन सभ्यताओं और देवियों को ढूंढ रहे हैं।*
Rajivjee: Just the knowledge and patents are not sufficient. One should have the ability to enforce the obligations of the users. China, USA , the powerful countries can benefit from it but if a person from India, Sri Lanka etc has the same patent - it will not be of value to him or her.
Obviously, the people who have the musle power will get the benefit. One sSwamijee hgave a very good example where he emphasized that the first requirement is the ability to bring about a change in the condition. Two persons - a physicist who could calculate things to many decimal places and an uneducated person -were sitting on a branch of a tree which broke off from the main tree. Both started falling with an acceleration equal to g. The physicist to accurate calculate the the acceleration accurately whereas the uneducated could not. But, both got hurt equally when they hit the ground. So, knowledge itself is not enough. There are a lot of Indians who can understand and invent but enforcing the patent is another thing. So, gedt the power first otherwise just patenting will not help.
Very true words
Artificial Intelligence is certainly going to be the future pivotal to the biggest potential and success to Humanity when we learn on how to avoid the Inherent risks of IOT technology embracement. Mr Rajiv Malhotra your dialogue with Dr Vandata Shiva could have been presented with value-added ideology had you elaborated on the structures and policies to ensure the human race sync with the highly intertwined network of the Field of Information in the Unconscious Realm.
Rajiv Ji Pranaam, & I have no words to describe my admiration & respect for Vandana Ji thats why I wont even try. To me this is a global takeover by digital of the human race thereby enslaving humans forever. Human brains will be connected to the internet & thoughts will be able to be downloaded into their brains hence making control over them much much easier. Elon Musk will make Bill Gates look smaller when his role of human enslavement comes out in the open. Its a global thing and it seems like India is playing out the role scripted for it in this global takeover. Indian leaders , actually world leaders are mere pawns & spectators in this drama without any real power, the real power lies with people but majority people have been converted into sheeple, so not much is expected from there either. The little resistance that is being shown by people in the West is all one gets to see as a protest, there is no protest (even against lockdowns) in India. Only a miracle can stop this takeover from happening. Come on humans wake up and start protesting against the lockdowns (as covid is another tool to put this AI system in place), protest against becoming machines, protest agains slavery, its time to get off your knees and start protesting. David Icke has been saying this for 30 years but all his words have largely fallen on deaf ears......alas Indians will remain slaves of the West, what a shame really. CZcams is part of the machinery that is aiding this takeover so I am not surprised that this video has only 5k views whereas it should have had many more views, CZcams restrict views of videos which spread truth. Susan Wojcicki is a gofer of the cult enforcing this takeover
Her support to farmers' protest raises suspicion.
She raises questions but has no concrete solutions