What Happened to Ms. Jade | Beef With Missy Elliot & Foxy Brown | Issues With Timbaland & More
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2021
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The early 2000s was a great time for female hip hop. Eve dropped scorpion. Rah digga dropped dirty Harriet and missy dropped miss e so addictive amongst others . Female rap was on the rise. Around this time, Timbaland was making major waves in the music industry and signed the talented Ms. Jade to his Imprint.
Damn Foxy brown doesn't like anyone 😂
Foxy wasn’t with all the fake bs with other female chicks lol and honestly she was the illest female lyricist at that time and everyone wanted to battle her.
@@CTtherealone Foxy through some jabs at some female artists but at times could not handle the clap back
No one likes her either 😂
Yea she got issues
Foxy was the most problematic female rapper. That’s probably why her and Nicki are so great together.
Ms.jade was nice asf tho. She definitely had BARS!!!
Slap Slap Slap
Missy Elliott ft. Ms.Jade and DaBrat 😱🥵❗❗💯🔉🔊🔊🔊
She had bars and was fine!!!
Was and still is!! Check out Ms.Jade Nina Ross Thelma and Louise...
At least she made it to the big stage. There are many of us whom haven’t even went to Ms Jade’s level
4real, I would have loved to work with timberland and missy, I never made it to the big stage but my creativity have taken me other places
💯💯💯
I feel ya. I got family in the industry it’s a nasty business. I would rather enjoy my music and creativity and not be a prisoner with contracts and all the headaches that comes with it. Count yourself as blessed those Hollywood ppl are weird AF.
@@thechurchladytm2683 I believe and respect THIS!👏👍💪💖☝️😊💯
Mrs Jade rocking the checker Van's way before they was even poppin 🥵😂
The fact that she was a black woman that liked rock music, was interesting...so interesting, she shouldve done more of her own sound moving forward!
The early 2000's were classic years for both hip-hop, and R&B. I forgot about her, but she was a powerful MC. That industry is hard!
More than hard...it's fucked up and WICKED...smh
Foxy and kim was suppose to be thelma and louise.
Exactly
Girl Interrupted was highly undderated. Some of Timbalands best beats were on that album and she was lyrically gifted af. She's definitely one of the best from Philly without a doubt.
Facts
naw
@@goonn337 yea
Sis was mad underrated! As far as Female Philly Rappers go, She should have been where Eve was, in terms of fame and notoriety. Personally, I always felt that she rapped circles around Eve. Ms. Jade fading to obscurity doesn’t surprise me. Missy Elliott had this habit of putting females on and then leaving them “high and dry” (Nicole Wray, Lil’ Mo, Mocha, Sharaya J, Jasmine Sullivan, Jessica Betts, to name a few).
FAX!
Really you can add Aaliyah to that list too. Most Aaliyah's later hits were written by Static, including her biggest hit, Try Again. Supposedly, Missy had issues with Aaliyah's label (no surprise) and refused to work on the album, and the only reason Tim is on the album for those handful of songs is because Aaliyah asked him to (and he was in love with her lol).
@@a_awake Baby Girl can stay right where she is at. Aaliyah was never “Missy’s Protege”. She collaborated with them, Missy and Timbaland were instrumental to her sound and style, and she ended up being bigger after. The women that I listed, weren’t so lucky. They never got that exposure or that PUSH, after Missy left them.
@@FrozenRemix1 I hear you, I never meant that Missy put Aaliyah on, but she definitely sustained her in her most vulnerable moment. No one would work with Aaliyah and here Tim and Missy come to save the day. I was more so alluding to a list of females that she left high and dry after a string of success. It’s weird that Missy was no where to be found on Aaliyah’s third album besides I Care 4 U from the 1996 sessions. Aaliyah wanted Tim and Missy back but couldn’t get Missy. That’s all I’m saying. High and dry. If Tim and Missy had done the album, Baby Girl might still be here today. Rock The Boat would not have been the radio standout.
@@a_awake I remember in a 2011 BET special commemorating the 10th anniversary of her death, Tim stated that Missy's rising popularity played a part in her not being able to give much time to the album. The only song they got to record in 2001 is "Where Could He Be?" which also featured Tweet and that finally leaked in 2005 and almost charted before radio was told to halt airplay as it was not officially released.
"Big Head" was my jam. That beat was incredible.
Right!! I remember I used that beat in my uni music production assignment back in da day! It was such a bop man!
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Yeah but that should have could have been a second lead song in the first one should have been champion
She was also featured on Pastor Troy hit song Are We Cuttin.
Exactly. Not sure why it wasn’t mentioned
XXX soundtrak
Fire track
Still bump that track
Pastor Troy said he hates that song lol it was a major label connect with him n Timberland. Tim produced the track, PT he’s never preformed the track
They wanted to change her whole style in the type of music she wanted to do for her own career
what happened to the rapper MOCHA she worked with missy elliott, nicole wray, mariah carey, total, timbaland, gina thompson, destiny’s child, lil kim et al
Damn I forgot abt her. They dropped so many balls on artists.
Yessssss I loved mocha’s voice she was raw too
Just noticed this comment after asking. Mocha was dope!
Shit what happened to Ricky Lake while we at it ?
😆😂🤣
😂😂😂😂.... OK!!!
She Retired
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It’s crazy, just yesterday I was bumping Jade’s A Champ. Timbaland killed that beat!!
A Timbo beat never disappoints
That beat is insane. Also "She's a gangsta" goes soooo hard.
As a Missy fan, I was waiting for Jade to drop. I really liked her aesthetic, it was different.
Some trivia probably a handful of people don't remember but back in 2010, Ms. Jade revealed in her infamous radio interview that she was originally signed to Missy Elliott's The Goldmind Inc. label during the top of 2001, but recalled some "paperwork got messed up" so she was later transferred to Timbaland's Beat Club imprint instead. Missy had plans to market her under the stage name simply known as "Jade" and readied her underground cut "Watch Ya" a as potential radio single. But of course it never took off since she was beginning to sign to Tim instead.
Ms. Jade is still nice she has a album with Nina Ross from Philly called Thelma and Louise. Jade got bars for days she owns hair salons here in Philly.
The early 00's had jems, but I personally think it was the beginning of the end in terms of mainstream hip-hop and R&B.
Facts it messed up in 05 the only reason why I liked music back than cuz it brings back memories from.high school
That Girl Interrupted album was dope!!!!!
Okay, is that Big head???
Her album is classic I remember Tim describing her as a female version of Biggie on Rap City the basement.
I know her personally. Jade is a beast & still got it! She’s as authentic as they come. I don’t think Timbaland truly understood the 💎 he had in Jade. Trying to get her to be a Missy replica, was never going to happen. They are two completely artists & talents.
Please do Zhane. Crush, Hey Mr. DJ, Sending My Love hit after hit then nothing 🤔🤔🤔
Yaaass Zhané is a good one
Yessss
They broke up....LITERALLY. Business wise and personally...
Please do a what happened gina thompson
For a long time I will get her and Nicole Rey mixed up. They sounded so much like to me back then.
Omg i was just listening to "the things you do" The good ole days
@@MrMarkie_B so many talented sisters looked over. I feel colorism and not giving up the box plays a factor.
please do Danja next. He helped make Timbaland EVEN BIGGER with his sound. JT/Nelly Furtado era. Then they parted ways for some reason. Also weird that Nelly hasn't made anymore songs with him or even feat on anything from that camp. Her album Loose is a huge contribution to pop and shaped a lot of what was to come from other new female acts. imo.
Amen Danja is a beast on them beats, he produced Gimme More, Break The Ice, Get Naked & Hot As Ice by Britney Spears for her #Blackout album. 🔥🔥🔥
facts !!
I know her personally. We're sitting on the couch watching it.
lol
Timbaland such a good dude even with his flaws
Those three singles was radio bangers but I think if Tim did let her do her ting on some of the remaining tracks the album would've prolly dun well and she prolly saw that dark side of da industry also but great video Ali, I totally did forget about her and how much a good lyricist she is just like Tink
Rite they gotta let artists put there self in the music Tim didn’t have too produced every song and beat some artists do so better when they in control and involved more she wasn’t promoted enough they maybe be at making music and it’s is too promote artists like missy and Tim but starting with a new artist like ms jade and her rapping was a whole other ball game that’s how you know ppl be buying award and paying radios stations too play music
"... Like most female rappers, Ms Jade also had issues with Foxy Brown..." 🤣🤣😂
Yo Ali Do One On Chris & Neef "Young Gunz" 💯
yup, but we know what happened to them tho somewhat... Jay Z smh.
@@TTSantiago821 Jay Z is a bad person but nobody seems to admit it
@@TTSantiago821 I Think He Had A Small Part But I Believe Other Politics Was Involved
@@slicktalksampson1727 agreed....it usually always is.
Can you do a what happened to Dwele the r&b singer?
Her album is actually really strong. But signing with Timbo is like the kiss of death - Kiley Dean, Bubba Sparxxx, and most recently Tink... they all pretty much flopped under his control. A shame because the quality of the music is there, I just think mainstream listeners didnt "get it". "Big Head" is dope but is also really off-kilter and a strange choice for a debut single... and in my opinion, Tim was trying too hard to emulate Missy's sound on that record.
I always liked Ms. Jade I liked her lyricism & she had bars!!!
i haven't seen ricki lake in over 27 years.......forgot all about her show.....
She has full episodes on CZcams. Check it out .
You are Iconic for posting these joints💯
Always enjoyed Jade. Love that Philly accent too. I don't care what anyone says... she was, and still is, Dope.
I love her bars in gossip folks.
Me too
This is much needed
Poor marketing. I would've totally got her CD had I known she even dropped one. Hope she come back way harder.
I love her Philly accent!!!! Philly represent!
It’s her trying to fix her track in the live for me 🙂😂
I’m new to this channel. And Man I love it. The research on these artist we no longer hear from is impeccable. This channel is inspiring me to go buy their music. Lol . Hey man keep up the good the work.
Maaan I’ve been asking this question for the longest!!!!
She got it all wrong. Timbaland advised her well. The album was good. I still got that s%$^. The problem was the marketing and promotion of it. Most people probably didnt know who tf she was and anything about the album.
Yeah she said she wanted to work her way up but they wanted to just let her start at the top
What happened to Rah Digga?
@@LadyIsTheChamp okay Kool..I just wanted to see Ali’s video on her!!
She’s on a podcast with Lord Jamar. I think it’s called Nahmeen or something
@@MoroccanRose85 yup I seen it a few times 👍🏾
She just performed in DC last night.
I had her album in 2002
I BEEN WAITING ON THIS THANKYOU!
Album was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 I still have the CD to this day. 😁
I loved Ms Jade as a teenager!!! I didn't like that Big head song or ching Ching. I thought the beats were wack and too much Tim. I like hard beats and flows. So I remember being excited about her until I heard those singles. I wish they would have released better singles for her. Love you Jade Philly all day ❤ 💕
i love Missy but she completely swagger jacked Jade
What happened to Magoo the rapper!!!!!!
Tim and Mag was a duo. They dropped they last album and that was it. They had three.
He's in the Real Estate business very successful.
@@rwsrndmlfe1862 I need a video about it
I love magooo
Oh Ricky Lake ha ha those were the days....
She was always nice....damn shame.
Thank you for doing Ms. Jade “Feel the Girl”, “She’s A Gangsta”, and her first album was nice. She is amazing freestyler too. She is nice. I always wanted to know what happened to her. She should have been bigger than she was.
What happen to Shawnna from DTP?
Shawnna is very active on social media too so it would be a good mini documentary about her. She's a fav!!!!
@@LadyIsTheChamp Yup People get that Independent Thing Twisted. U need 💰💰💰💰💰💰
Ludacris is pussy and literally blocked her shine during her time with DTP and even after. Same with Chingy.
Ludacris blacked balled her (jealousy)
She fell out with Ludacris because he f ed all his artist over, Shawna should have blown up but they made up like 2 years ago. She's on IG.
Timbaland kills careers
In all fairness, it sounds like Ms Jade initiated beef with Foxy when there was no need to!
How do you beef with someone with someone who doesn't even know you exist?
@@lawrencepayteniii7915 you put out a diss track to get their attention I guess. Even the "beef" with Eve was allegedly because she starting running her gums about Fox and DMX's dealings. I dont know how true that is and I know Fox has her issues, but some of it was unnecessary drama she didnt start.
I honestly think Ms.Jade was hoping to get famous from it. Lil Kim also had beef with Charli Baltimore and Eve, both from Philly, yet Ms Jade never took at her.
@@lawrencepayteniii7915 Lil Kim was still going strong at the time. Foxy wasn’t that hot anymore, maybe Jade thought it would be easy and boost her rep.
Ms. Jade was loyal ... period
Ms. Jade is the BEST Female rapper i've ever worked with... It was an honor to work on her only Studio Album.... (KEEP YOUR HEAD UP) I Produced.. Thank You Ms. Jade, 215 ENT., TIMBALAND, AND Jae Staxx
Honestly Alot Of Times If Your First Album doesn't do well. The Second Album alot of times blow that Artist Up
What happened to?
- Paula DeAnda
-Amanda Perez
-Gina Thompson❗️❗️❗️❗️
-702
-Jade
Zhane
One of the best female rap albums EVER!
Why everybody always be going after Fox. Fox never said shit about Ms Jade. Then she making tracks about fox and everything.
Let Eve fight her own battles Eve is a adult just like Fox.
And for going after Foxy I'm no longer interested in Ms Jade anymore.
Jade....... The album was dope but sis you saying Missy swagga jacked you? Door knockers and track suits? You mean the same door knockers and track suits that was hot in the 80s before either one of y'all? Someone should have told her not to say that out loud. That sounds delusional.
If missy started wearing the outfits after seeing her in them, them yes she did copy
Petey Pablo next
The Queen of Philly !!
at 10:49 that coat foxy wearing is fire......i believe every word jade said about missy........missy did change her style and now i see where she got it from.......
Ms. Jade was a problem. I purchased it twice and stole it 1ce. She had flow and didn't need to take off her clothes to prove she was legit.
Fox has the better Flow of all these females frfr. Her flow is legendary. Without a music video, without bra and panties. Fox Flow and delivery is the best was the best and will never be none better
I love foxy brown
@@Tiajones333 right
I love many other female artists more. Shawnna is my fave but no lie. FOX is smooth on a beat
Hell yea I was wondering what happened to her 1st album was fire 🔥
They molded her career in missys image...
Exactly and there couldn’t be two..
@@BenitaSFB actually it could have been that missy took her style and people thought she was trying to be like missy
@@l9ikjam I think they meant in regards to her music they wanted her to be the second coming of missy, which is why she worked with timberland and only timberland and he told her what to say and how to say it.
I loved her! So under rated
I'm not seeing where Missy swagger jacked her tho. Missy been in this game for a long period before she came along. How she figure she invented the around the way girl image when female rappers in the 80s were doing it? She was nice tho sorry she didn't last
Did you not listen? It was literally explained.
@@so.many.obstacles yes i listened and SHE STILL didn't copy shit so move around
Let's say 4 girls formed a group. All of the girls dress like the average performer dress today except one. the one members like to rock the 70's look with the afro and bell bottoms. Now one of the other members like the attention that she is getting and she start dressing the same way. She is now copying her. Missy went from wearing baggy Jean or leather outfits to Adidas jogging suites with the Kangol
Are you serious?!?!?! It has nothing to do with how long Missy has been in the industry…. Y’all be treating these ppl like they are God and it’s sad.
I still have this cd and still listen to it .
Sat here still waiting for the Ma$e video 😂
I honestly thought Ms. Jade was the next big thing for that whole Collective
Man....I listen to alot of songs back then and still missed out many. Smh
U Should Do One On What Happened To 702.
i love foxy & ms jade, but ms jade came at foxy first randomly only because eve and jade from the same city and they ain't like eachother.🤷🏽♀ so let's not blame foxy for everything.
Facts
Forreal the beef had nothing to do with Jade..
Still play her album. I was in hs when that came out. Getting ready in the morning, got this bumpin and my daddy banging on my door cause the intro woke him up. The bars, the production, people were just not ready for this album. Another project were Tim and Missy were ahead of their time. 🛸🚀
Ms Jade is proof to Follow your passion and never give up!!!
17 tracks on a LP ... That’s real old school
You left out “Are We Cuttin’” with Pastor Troy...
Foxy is LEGENDARY....Jade was in over her head
FOXY COULD NEVER TOUCH JADE!🤦🏽♂️
@@THEDENNYLIVEHATERSHOW jade could never measure up to the artist that foxy was...she was the whole package..while jade was just sub par bars
She reminded me of another Missy Elliott they had the same flow & look in the early 2000s
I liked her album. I should give it another listen
You definitely should ... it’s a classic
“The Come Up” is still my favorite Ms. Jade song and is so hard 🤯!!!
Feel the girl is one of my favorite song and beat ever
Wow Thelma and Louise concept was originally for foxy brown and Lil Kim interesting 🤔
Exactly they lost me with that one
The were good friends
@@kaylahoward4671 Yes I know, I think people around them got in their heads maybe that's why they turned on each other.
Yes it was & they never did it, that’s the only reason jade & Nina did it ... the city gave them that name
Yep.. the day of the video shoot. It was lil kim who didnt show up. Foxy is loyal, real, and authentic. All the beef was Kim's fault. Not foxys
Today's my birthday! Sending love and positivity to anyone who needs it 🙏
“Like most female rappers “ 😩
OMG...never heard of heard but she does sound dope. What happened to Bahamadia though?
At that time and era the game was changing and unfortunately females with skills wasn't selling and wasn't sort after especially with Foxy and Kim being out and that's very unfortunate. Ms. Jade was really good and Timberland was not for everyone and as talented as most people are in the world the game is not for everyone. A rapper and producer has to have a perfect fit to make a hits. Or the rapper has to have their own visual of what types of beats would fit their lyrics and content and be exceptionally different to stand out against the competition.
Can you do Dae Dae..!?? Plz
Please do a video about what happen to UK artist Ms.Dynamite .
She in a group with another rapper from Philly named Nina Ross
Yup
What happen to the rapper A+
I would like to know too because he’s from my hometown
Can you do a video on What happened to So So Def artist Dondria. She had one good song and disappeared 😩
Dead wrong ft nate dogg was my shit the whole girl interrupted album was 🔥🔥🔥
Girl interrupted is still one of my favorite rap albums
Omgeezy!!!! I've been looking for Nina Ross for freaking ever.. haven't seen or heard from her since Smack dvd days damn.. she had real bars and I don't understand why she didn't get picked up
What happened to so so def artist fundisha who was singing in Bow Wows music videos like thank you and basketball