What did you mean by " i will re-set the set trigger "? The last thing you do before you pull the trigger is set the trigger, just inquisitive , I enjoyed the video thanks
You sure did a nice job, looks great . You sure make up for a rainy day in maine . My first blackpowder was a cva mountain rifle in 50 cal. Thanks again
Glad you guys had fun with these. My range had a competition for muzzleloaders on 4/22. I was kind of resistent to competing since my TC Hawken and Lyman Great Plains Rifle have been having issues shooting straight because of the winds like you guys had in this video. Brought the Hawken down to the rang and with no sight adjustment, it stacked three balls one on top of another at 50 yards. The only way you could tell three balls hit instead of one was the hole was oval shaped instead of round like an old school round nose bullet had keyholed
I found an orphaned CVA Mountain Rifle in .45 last fall, and it was in good shape but the lock was trashed so I went out and got an L & R lock for it. I redid it with a Jacobean stain and after seeing in Bob Woodfill's book that a lot of the old Hawkens had iron furniture, dark colored patchboxes, etc. I took Brownells Oxpho-blue and redid the barrel, and went over the silver colored parts with it and now they're dark as well. The gun shoots great although I haven't spent as much range time as I like. I know with the L & R lock and that double set trigger it's one of the nicest muzzleloaders I've ever shot. Yours looks great too, the CVA Mountain Rifles are much better guns than they've ever been given credit for. I know the barrel on mine is extremely tight. A .440" roundball with a lubed .010" patch is a very tight fit in the gun, much more so than any other .45 muzzleloader I've ever shot, and that patch better be really well lubed.
Nice video. I have a tinge of regret for having sold my CVA Mountain Rifle that had a Douglass barrel. Just getting old and have more ML's than I can shoot.
The first two years 1977 and 78 they were made in the USA in 45 and 50 calibers. They used Douglas barrels that will really shoot. They used four screws on the patch box and octagonal ramrod ferrals. When they moved production to Spain they dropped the 45 caliber and changed the ramrod ferrals to round steel and just used three screws on the patch box. Around 1980 I had a 50 cal and I shot it in matches for 5 years until I wore out the lock. I sold that gun and regretted it for years. Last year I lucked into an unfired 45 caliber rifle. I polished the bore with red scotchbrite patches and it's ready for the range now. Thanks for the video.
You have made this rifle into a excellent form of art work. Nice shooting in the wind. I have a Hawkins rife it shoots excelent. David Back from Menifee county Kentucky
I have the same rifle with Made In The USA stamped on the barrel. Mines in 45 cal. Started shooting muzzle loaders in the late 70's. One of the first things I was taught was never put your palm over the ram rod as you are loading the ball down the barrel. Couldn't help but notice you doing that. I have seen them go off while someone was driving the ball down with the ram rod still in the gun. Luckily they were holding the rod with their index finger and thumb. Shoot safe!
I really enjoyed the video, ive aalways wanted a mountain rifle after a friend in the 90's gifted me a cva Hawken, but life got in the way, so I made my hawken look like a one pin mountain rifle. As always I look forward to your next video.
Instantly recognized the Original Carter Family and "The Storms Are On The Ocean". But DO look up the August 1927 version, recorded at the famous Bristol TN sessions. Faster tempo, and the guitar / auto harp instrumentals by Maybelle and Sarah are gorgeous.
I had one in the 70's it shot better than my Thompson Center with round ball..it had a 1-66 twist barrel not the 1-48 like the T/C. Mine was marked Made in the USA in 50cal it was maybe the best shooting muzzle loading rifle I ever owned . I traded it off in a deal.for a WW-2 Walther P-38 with the original holster I still own..
I had 1 in the early 80's it was a tack driver .50 cal, I dolled it up some, then traded it for the major piece to build a poor boy flintlock. Like you said there is a place in my heart for them.
I inherited one from a cousin a few months ago, he let me use it back in the 80's and took a couple of deer with it and really enjoy shooting it, they were defiantly one of the best CVA every offered
You just got to love those old CVAs. When you said you couldn't find your 50 caliber equipment. and Ethan is training with the National Guard today. The image of Ethan running around in 18th century clothing with his kibler Woods Runner. Training among modern infantry popped into my head.😂
Great Video! In my opinion the CVA Mountain Rifle is the best rifle that CVA ever produced, The barrels had cut rifling and were cut 1/66 and were cut .008 - .010 deep. A true round ball barrel. In 1980 I bought a Big Bore Mountain Rifle in 54 caliber. My pet load was 90 -100gr of 2F black powder behind a 230gr patched round ball. It was and still is a tack driver. Over the next 10 years I put tons of meat in my freezer with it. In 1990 I became interested in flintlocks and built myself a custom .58 flintlock, and set the old CVA aside. A few years ago I converted the old Mountain Rifle to flint ignition. Ignition is very fast and it will still drive tacks. You have a real prize there! Enjoy your rifle.
My granddaddy died when I was a boy and my mother inherited most of his firearms and passed them on to us boys. Among them were an old model Ruger Blackhawk and a CVA mountain rifle, proving that my granddaddy was a man of wisdom and great taste in firearms. Unfortunately, the Blackhawk was sold for rent money during hard times for my mother, but the mountain rifle is in my collection now.
I have the same exact CVA Mountain Rifle 50cal. & 3 Thompson Center Hawkens & Renegades 50cal & 54 cals. I also have a Pedersoli Traditional Hawken Target 50cal & a CVA Gamester Hawken Supreme 54cal with the Chrome lined bore. One of my Renegades had the TC Renegade Peep sight, & I bought a Lymen 57 SML tang peep sight & 2 Williams FP Hawken tang Peep sights with target knobs. I also bought a Taylor & Company tang Peep Sight. I can't see too well using regular iron sights. The TC Peep sight & Williams FP Hawken Peep sights are the best. Followed by the Lymen 57 sml & then the Tylor & Company Peep, in that order. I almost bought a mint condition, Mirror bore Browning Mountain Rifle 50cal with the powder horn, wood case & everything for $950 a couple of months ago but I passed on it, like an idiot. My next muzzleloader, is either going to be, a like new condition, Lymen Great Plains Rifle in 54cal, or if I find another cherry, Browning Mountain Rifle in either 50 or 54, I'm going to scoop it up.
Unless of course it's a brass ramrod 😊. For the fun of it I have been looking for a .58 cal barrel for Bertha. At the time CVA made the Big Bore Mountain in .54 and .58. Like I think I've mentioned before Bertha was a half built kit found in an auction in Torrington Wyoming late 1982. She likes 120 grains of old einsford. Which is sad as the powder is hard to find now. By the way I still have a surprise for you I'd like to send you. Only requirement is a call. I don't want any misunderstanding that I tend get from the typed words. Mountain man
nice rifle ,beautiful job you did with it ! could you explain more how you did the stock? i have the same rifle would like to refinish the stock. .more info would awesome ty. i never used iron nitrate ,or the yellow die. i think mine wasa kit the fit and finish is a little rough.but inside the barrel is like glass,chrome,bright shinny .i got it used on line,i got lucky ....ty for sharing ,beautiful rifle great job you did with it !
yes i used aqua fortis and iron nitrate. to get the red and black lool. then to antique it a bit i mixed some bone black in raw linseed oil and applied it to get shadows in the recesses. then applied linseed oil once a day for about 2 weeks i finished up with a coat of jhonson past wax
I have a CVA mountain rifle just like what you're holding only in 45 cal. with round steel ram rod thimbles. I built it from a kit in 1975. It has an 85XXX serial number and is not marked "Made in USA". I just cleaned a CVA Mountain Rifle, 50 cal., 28-inch barrel, all brass furniture Is not marked "Made in USA" and is serial number 8XX. That's right, 00008XX. It was also a kit gun and someone's first effort.
TC Hawken flintlock in .50cal 1:50 twist was my first, still have it in excellent shape, then scored a CVA Hawken Caplock in .54cal with a .50 barrel too all for free. Kit gun needed finished. Both barrels are 1:68 twist and shoot excellent. I've converted it to a flinter also. The purists can knock these guns all they want for not being custom accurate representations, but they work, they harvest game, and they're fun to shoot and customize your own way. And not cost $2-3000 to buy.
I've had trouble with my lock and thinking about buying a replacement lock from l&r locks and a 15/16 54 cal drop in barrel but they aren't bad rifles I've put meat on the table plenty of times
Do some research on the Browning before you waste your money. They do look nice and feel good in the hands. I saw one at an auction that was a kit and nearly completely assembled and never fired and the lock was already broken. It is a major problem with them from what i found on researching them and they cannot be repaired nor can they be matched up with replacement parts as the company that made the locks is out of business. Unless the article I was reading is wrong the lock was made specifically for Browning and others will not work. I guess this person had it 98% complete and cocked it and probably went to let it down and from what I am told that is when the lock snaps internally. Of course I couldn't take it apart but you couldn't cock this rifle and let it down unless you fiddled with it multiple times.
These guns sure are works of art. Deadly art!
yes sir im really in love with this one
What did you mean by " i will re-set the set trigger "? The last thing you do before you pull the trigger is set the trigger, just inquisitive , I enjoyed the video thanks
That rifle cleaned up nice.
thanks its amazing what a little aqua fortis will do
Excellent thanks
thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing 👍👌
thanks for watching
Great video on a great old gun. Thanks for putting it out Brother!
TC
yes sir thankyou for your advice to get one
That was my first black powder rifle. I still have it. It is a great gun.
they are hard to beat
Great video and nice shooting in that wind!
thankyou very much
What a handsome rifle. It turned out nicely, well done! I had a hatless day last week due to rain. I felt naked all day long.
CVA Mtn Rifle .45, was my first powder rifle. Bought it new, in ‘77.
Still have that old tack driver.
That's a good looking rifle
thank you
And I could see why you like her so much enjoyed the shooting this morning and thanks for the show last night
anytime thanks for watching
Good lookin good shootin piece. The best of the repros. Gave mine to my kid, he now beats me at the woods walks.
lol good for you and him. its great see this way of life past down
You sure did a nice job, looks great . You sure make up for a rainy day in maine . My first blackpowder was a cva mountain rifle in 50 cal. Thanks again
thankyou for watching
Glad you guys had fun with these. My range had a competition for muzzleloaders on 4/22. I was kind of resistent to competing since my TC Hawken and Lyman Great Plains Rifle have been having issues shooting straight because of the winds like you guys had in this video. Brought the Hawken down to the rang and with no sight adjustment, it stacked three balls one on top of another at 50 yards. The only way you could tell three balls hit instead of one was the hole was oval shaped instead of round like an old school round nose bullet had keyholed
yes sir tac drivers
So I have two CVA two pin mountain rifles. A .50 cal and .54. They both shoot better than. My custom.50 Hawkin.
That’s a fast lock time, even in slo-mo 😁👍
lol and the way i shoot thats a good thing
Good Video
thanks
Great video, you did a great job fixing up that rifle.
thankyou
My CVA mountain rifle came with a 1in 48 twist bought as a new kit when I was 15 and I'm now 60
I found an orphaned CVA Mountain Rifle in .45 last fall, and it was in good shape but the lock was trashed so I went out and got an L & R lock for it. I redid it with a Jacobean stain and after seeing in Bob Woodfill's book that a lot of the old Hawkens had iron furniture, dark colored patchboxes, etc. I took Brownells Oxpho-blue and redid the barrel, and went over the silver colored parts with it and now they're dark as well. The gun shoots great although I haven't spent as much range time as I like. I know with the L & R lock and that double set trigger it's one of the nicest muzzleloaders I've ever shot. Yours looks great too, the CVA Mountain Rifles are much better guns than they've ever been given credit for. I know the barrel on mine is extremely tight. A .440" roundball with a lubed .010" patch is a very tight fit in the gun, much more so than any other .45 muzzleloader I've ever shot, and that patch better be really well lubed.
oh yes they are great. i saw yours on your channel yes mine is a bit of a tight fit but i think that lends to the accuracy
Very cool.
thankyou
Nice video. I have a tinge of regret for having sold my CVA Mountain Rifle that had a Douglass barrel. Just getting old and have more ML's than I can shoot.
i hear you there
The first two years 1977 and 78 they were made in the USA in 45 and 50 calibers. They used Douglas barrels that will really shoot.
They used four screws on the patch box and octagonal ramrod ferrals.
When they moved production to Spain they dropped the 45 caliber and changed the ramrod ferrals to round steel and just used three screws on the patch box.
Around 1980 I had a 50 cal and I shot it in matches for 5 years until I wore out the lock. I sold that gun and regretted it for years.
Last year I lucked into an unfired 45 caliber rifle. I polished the bore with red scotchbrite patches and it's ready for the range now.
Thanks for the video.
thanks for watching
You have made this rifle into a excellent form of art work. Nice shooting in the wind. I have a Hawkins rife it shoots excelent. David Back from Menifee county Kentucky
why thank you david
This is the same kind of rifle my grandfather handed down to me as my first muzzleloader
I have the same rifle with Made In The USA stamped on the barrel. Mines in 45 cal. Started shooting muzzle loaders in the late 70's. One of the first things I was taught was never put your palm over the ram rod as you are loading the ball down the barrel. Couldn't help but notice you doing that. I have seen them go off while someone was driving the ball down with the ram rod still in the gun. Luckily they were holding the rod with their index finger and thumb. Shoot safe!
I really enjoyed the video, ive aalways wanted a mountain rifle after a friend in the 90's gifted me a cva Hawken, but life got in the way, so I made my hawken look like a one pin mountain rifle.
As always I look forward to your next video.
thank you very much
Instantly recognized the Original Carter Family and "The Storms Are On The Ocean". But DO look up the August 1927 version, recorded at the famous Bristol TN sessions. Faster tempo, and the guitar / auto harp instrumentals by Maybelle and Sarah are gorgeous.
yes sir that is a great recording
I had one in the 70's it shot better than my Thompson Center with round ball..it had a 1-66 twist barrel not the 1-48 like the T/C. Mine was marked Made in the USA in 50cal it was maybe the best shooting muzzle loading rifle I ever owned . I traded it off in a deal.for a WW-2 Walther P-38 with the original holster I still own..
yes these excel at round ball shooting
I had 1 in the early 80's it was a tack driver .50 cal, I dolled it up some, then traded it for the major piece to build a poor boy flintlock. Like you said there is a place in my heart for them.
yes they are special
I inherited one from a cousin a few months ago, he let me use it back in the 80's and took a couple of deer with it and really enjoy shooting it, they were defiantly one of the best CVA every offered
100%
Had one in .58 Caliber. True joy to shoot. Still Regret selling it forty years later.
teah they are great guns
You just got to love those old CVAs. When you said you couldn't find your 50 caliber equipment. and Ethan is training with the National Guard today. The image of Ethan running around in 18th century clothing with his kibler Woods Runner. Training among modern infantry popped into my head.😂
haha that would be funny
Great Video! In my opinion the CVA Mountain Rifle is the best rifle that CVA ever produced, The barrels had cut rifling and were cut 1/66 and were cut .008 - .010 deep. A true round ball barrel. In 1980 I bought a Big Bore Mountain Rifle in 54 caliber. My pet load was 90 -100gr of 2F black powder behind a 230gr patched round ball. It was and still is a tack driver. Over the next 10 years I put tons of meat in my freezer with it. In 1990 I became interested in flintlocks and built myself a custom .58 flintlock, and set the old CVA aside. A few years ago I converted the old Mountain Rifle to flint ignition. Ignition is very fast and it will still drive tacks. You have a real prize there! Enjoy your rifle.
thankyou
50cal and 54 were 1:66 the 58 was 1:72. Never measured the 45cal
I watched this again. I love Maybel and they are right about the CVA great rifle and that is a damn pretty rifle
thankyou very much Pilgrim
Good looking rifle. I've got a Western Arms Jedidiah Smith 1 of a 1000 in .54.
lol well there's another one i need to add to my list of need to get....
Love these guns.
My granddaddy died when I was a boy and my mother inherited most of his firearms and passed them on to us boys. Among them were an old model Ruger Blackhawk and a CVA mountain rifle, proving that my granddaddy was a man of wisdom and great taste in firearms. Unfortunately, the Blackhawk was sold for rent money during hard times for my mother, but the mountain rifle is in my collection now.
There was also a savage model 99, which is in my brothers collection, I am jealous of that.
sounds like you had a really smart grandfather who got a couple of the best black powder guns you could get at the time.
I have the same exact CVA Mountain Rifle 50cal. & 3 Thompson Center Hawkens & Renegades 50cal & 54 cals. I also have a Pedersoli Traditional Hawken Target 50cal & a CVA Gamester Hawken Supreme 54cal with the Chrome lined bore. One of my Renegades had the TC Renegade Peep sight, & I bought a Lymen 57 SML tang peep sight & 2 Williams FP Hawken tang Peep sights with target knobs. I also bought a Taylor & Company tang Peep Sight. I can't see too well using regular iron sights. The TC Peep sight & Williams FP Hawken Peep sights are the best. Followed by the Lymen 57 sml & then the Tylor & Company Peep, in that order. I almost bought a mint condition,
Mirror bore Browning Mountain Rifle 50cal with the powder horn, wood case & everything for $950 a couple of months ago but I passed on it, like an idiot. My next muzzleloader, is either going to be, a like new condition, Lymen Great Plains Rifle in 54cal, or if I find another cherry, Browning Mountain Rifle in either 50 or 54, I'm going to scoop it up.
very nice
Unless of course it's a brass ramrod 😊.
For the fun of it I have been looking for a .58 cal barrel for Bertha. At the time CVA made the Big Bore Mountain in .54 and .58. Like I think I've mentioned before Bertha was a half built kit found in an auction in Torrington Wyoming late 1982. She likes 120 grains of old einsford. Which is sad as the powder is hard to find now.
By the way I still have a surprise for you I'd like to send you. Only requirement is a call. I don't want any misunderstanding that I tend get from the typed words.
Mountain man
that would be a beast in 58
Great vid man and thumbs up!! Love my .54! Where can the Blackies Bore Butter be purchased?
thankyou www.handmadebyc3gac.com/product/gun-butter/242
Stupid wind, nice rifle!
lol yup
Nice rifle. I have a similar rifle that someone gave me. Haven’t shot it yet but need to.
oh yeah they are a blast
i have fun watching you guys !
thank you im glad you enjoy it
nice rifle ,beautiful job you did with it ! could you explain more how you did the stock? i have the same rifle would like to refinish the stock. .more info would awesome ty. i never used iron nitrate ,or the yellow die. i think mine wasa kit the fit and finish is a little rough.but inside the barrel is like glass,chrome,bright shinny .i got it used on line,i got lucky ....ty for sharing ,beautiful rifle great job you did with it !
yes i used aqua fortis and iron nitrate. to get the red and black lool. then to antique it a bit i mixed some bone black in raw linseed oil and applied it to get shadows in the recesses. then applied linseed oil once a day for about 2 weeks i finished up with a coat of jhonson past wax
@@Real11BangBang thank you,it came out beautiful !
Hat tip for playing Mother Maybelle.
an all time classic
There's a reason i have six of them 😁
is that Maybel Carter (June Cash's Mom) on the intro tune?
yes sir good ol mother Maybel
@@Real11BangBang Thought I recognized her voice...and pickin... "Me Hat is off to the memory of that special lady"
I have a CVA mountain rifle just like what you're holding only in 45 cal. with round steel ram rod thimbles. I built it from a kit in 1975. It has an 85XXX serial number and is not marked "Made in USA". I just cleaned a CVA Mountain Rifle, 50 cal., 28-inch barrel, all brass furniture Is not marked "Made in USA" and is serial number 8XX. That's right, 00008XX. It was also a kit gun and someone's first effort.
I have an early cva mountain rifle with a shortened barrel that my dad passed down to me
TC Hawken flintlock in .50cal 1:50 twist was my first, still have it in excellent shape, then scored a CVA Hawken Caplock in .54cal with a .50 barrel too all for free. Kit gun needed finished. Both barrels are 1:68 twist and shoot excellent. I've converted it to a flinter also. The purists can knock these guns all they want for not being custom accurate representations, but they work, they harvest game, and they're fun to shoot and customize your own way. And not cost $2-3000 to buy.
100%
Nice to see a lefty shooter. How are you with flintlocks?
flintlock locks dont really bother me as the flame goes up i have never been burned
I've got one of these that was gifted to me by my grandma, never actually fired it, but now I just might.
they are very hard to beat
I had a mountain rifle in the seventies but it didn't have a patch box? It was a good rifle.
dounds like a good gun
I was just looking at this exact gun and you uploaded a video on it lol
cant go wrong with one of these
I have one of these in 45, early one too with the made in usa barrel. but whoever slapped it together sloped the stock going to the buttplate
oh that interesting. how does it shoot
@@Real11BangBang it shoots fine, dont notice the stock work. The main thing that bugs me is the drum and how its off kilter.
I've had trouble with my lock and thinking about buying a replacement lock from l&r locks and a 15/16 54 cal drop in barrel but they aren't bad rifles I've put meat on the table plenty of times
MY GUNSMITH REPLACED THE MAIN SPRING IN MY CVA MOUNTAIN RIFLE LOCK YEARS AGO, AND IT HAS DONE WELL. IT'S AN EASY FIX FOR A QUALIFIED GUNSMITH.
I bought mine in 1980 .45… 70 grain load
they are great guns
I used red Scotch-brite on the barrel of my Great Plains.54 and it loads easier and fouls less.
i did polish this bore but it just has a bit of stubborn pitting
What size ball are you using?
49 cal
Do some research on the Browning before you waste your money. They do look nice and feel good in the hands. I saw one at an auction that was a kit and nearly completely assembled and never fired and the lock was already broken. It is a major problem with them from what i found on researching them and they cannot be repaired nor can they be matched up with replacement parts as the company that made the locks is out of business. Unless the article I was reading is wrong the lock was made specifically for Browning and others will not work. I guess this person had it 98% complete and cocked it and probably went to let it down and from what I am told that is when the lock snaps internally. Of course I couldn't take it apart but you couldn't cock this rifle and let it down unless you fiddled with it multiple times.
l&r makes up grade locks specifically for the cva mountain so they can be replaced most people just upgrade as soon as they get them nowadays