What Are the Different Windows "AppData" Folders for, Anyway?

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    0:00 - Intro
    0:43 - What is AppData?
    3:37 - Roaming & Local Folders
    7:31 - LocalLow Folder
    8:50 - ProgramData Folder
    10:17 - Why is Roaming the Default?
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  • @DarmaS1
    @DarmaS1 Před 3 lety +1402

    AppData folder: **exist**
    Games: I'll use Document folder instead

    • @gardox3215
      @gardox3215 Před 3 lety +42

      Locallow is default for unity games

    • @tl1882
      @tl1882 Před 3 lety +30

      especially steam games

    • @RubenMartinezCabello
      @RubenMartinezCabello Před 3 lety +104

      Documents is older that AppData. Not as old as Games, but, well, older, so it is the classical solution. Also, before games became online focussed, if you wanted to take your save games with you, you would need to copy them into a floppy from the file explorer, and well, AppData is a HIDDEN FOLDER, so pretty hard to do for a kid, specially before internet, so you couldn't google it and watch a youtube video showing you exactly how to do it.

    • @Engineer9736
      @Engineer9736 Před 3 lety +28

      @@RubenMartinezCabello Internet existed long time already before the appdata folder came into existence though. I remember browsing the web on Windows 95 via dialup. Appdata appeared in Windows Vista, about a decade after win95.

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 Před 3 lety +1

      Especially Terraria.

  • @andrewcox1025
    @andrewcox1025 Před 3 lety +3810

    I wouldn't be shocked if 99% of people who have ever accessed the AppData folder did so for Minecraft.

    • @BuildTimeMC
      @BuildTimeMC Před 3 lety +105

      Of course

    • @GoatStormChaser
      @GoatStormChaser Před 3 lety +87

      I did but now I use multimc which is a lot better

    • @wesselvanleeuwen7300
      @wesselvanleeuwen7300 Před 3 lety +199

      .minecraft homies

    • @Whising
      @Whising Před 3 lety +20

      True

    • @PJM257
      @PJM257 Před 3 lety +86

      Yeah, even though I use it for lots of other things, I originally used it for minecraft.

  • @uniktbrukernavn
    @uniktbrukernavn Před 3 lety +1044

    I love browsing these folders and discover software that I uninstalled years ago. It's like a historical record of my computer life. Filling up my drive with millions of files.

    • @SeMr7en
      @SeMr7en Před 3 lety +229

      I really hate how windows apps throws garbage around like this. I want to back up saved games? Maybe it’s in program data, maybe it’s attached to the launcher, maybe it’s in your my documents folder under the game dev’s name. Maybe the “My Games” folder that not every game used. Maybe the setting you are looking for isn’t a file. But a registry value. I started to use Linux VMs for everything that isn’t gaming related just to keep my windows install fresh. Windows store apps did solve this problem but no dev is going to use it.

    • @BlackCenturx
      @BlackCenturx Před 3 lety +48

      @@SeMr7en Yes that sucks. Both Microsoft and all Developers are to blame for this

    • @JojOatXGME
      @JojOatXGME Před 3 lety +65

      @@SeMr7en Note that you have a similar situation on Linux, through.
      %ProgramData% -> /var/local
      %AppData% -> ~/.local, ~/.cache, ~/.config or some other random directory in your home directory starting with a dot
      The directories are just named differently. At least on Gnome, you also have something very similar to the Registry of Windows. At least applications slowly adapt to the new standards, so we will get a more uniform experience over time.

    • @SeMr7en
      @SeMr7en Před 3 lety +88

      @@JojOatXGME I'm pretty envious on how android does it. Just cache and data. The app can't save anywhere else unless you give permissions for it. Such a nice system they have in place. But then again they don't have to worry about compatibility dating back to the 90s

    • @HoloScope
      @HoloScope Před 3 lety +14

      @@SeMr7en android directory is so simple I love it, so easy to mod, it's universal

  • @shaunbowen
    @shaunbowen Před 3 lety +515

    Most apps: install settings to one of these folders.
    Adobe: "We've got files in every directory and folder from here to the Sudan. We install a dozen languages and know every local custom. We'll blend in, disappear and you'll never see us again. With any luck we've got the grail already"

    • @ImranAhmed-kq2jj
      @ImranAhmed-kq2jj Před 3 lety +6

      😂😂

    • @mittamoa
      @mittamoa Před 3 lety +9

      What if you're located in Sudan? 😉

    • @arc-sd8sk
      @arc-sd8sk Před 3 lety +1

      LMFAO yes

    • @JojOatXGME
      @JojOatXGME Před 3 lety +10

      Note that there might be valid reasons to split the data between all these directories. For example caches are usually saved in %LocalAppData% while user configuration should be saved in %AppData%.

    • @SpikeTheBear
      @SpikeTheBear Před 3 lety +1

      Madobeus

  • @BlockBlazer
    @BlockBlazer Před rokem +1638

    The point of the Roaming folder is to store your Minecraft saves.

    • @Leekodot15
      @Leekodot15 Před rokem +72

      Or install mods.

    • @railroading
      @railroading Před rokem +4

      So is Local

    • @Leekodot15
      @Leekodot15 Před rokem +15

      @@railroading Since when has anyone ever entered local via %appdata% to get to Minecraft?

    • @railroading
      @railroading Před rokem +4

      @@Leekodot15 Bedrock

    • @ItsWarFilms
      @ItsWarFilms Před rokem +44

      @@Leekodot15 tell me you play the Bedrock version without telling me you play the Bedrock version...

  • @stevenlace7902
    @stevenlace7902 Před 3 lety +266

    I was a developer for a drawing app and I chose to use the roaming folder to store the user's app settings. If the user uses a Microsoft account for logging into the computer, their settings get synched across all computers that they use with the same login credentials. So if they defined a custom color on one machine it would be available on all the other machines they login to.

    • @TheMasonX23
      @TheMasonX23 Před rokem +16

      That's awesome! Gotta love having your settings synced! As a business software developer, I'm glad I finally know what Roaming is for so I can sync settings across the domain now

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 Před rokem +10

      Thanks for doing this, I wish more developers will take advantage of this and have user app settings synced with their MSA. It is just a huge improvement to the user experience.

    • @leoncitoamx
      @leoncitoamx Před rokem +3

      Funny how many devs crack their head trying to sync app data when is can be solved just this way :)

    • @gameplayfirst6548
      @gameplayfirst6548 Před rokem +4

      @@leoncitoamx It won't happen in most organizations, because I don't know any company that really has a setup that syncs that folder through the domain. There would have to be some server storage configured somewhere because the sync can't happen while the client is offline.

    • @emirzmen
      @emirzmen Před rokem +1

      @@gameplayfirst6548 there was this system in my university. But not just the prefences, my whole files is carried around, like folders i created etc.

  • @Lofote
    @Lofote Před 3 lety +313

    %APPDATA% is roaming, because it was so in Windows NT 4/2000 times, and the Local came later inside that folder as "application data\local" with the rule to not sync. At first NT4 synced everything even the users temp folder, and then they realized it was a bad idea, so local and some domain settings were added to exclude the Local folder. The really clear seperation with Roaming and Local then came with the so-called "User Profiles V2", which came with Vista and Windows Server 2008.

  • @amallkrishna
    @amallkrishna Před 3 lety +165

    This is a video I never knew I needed.

  • @CaseAgainstFaith1
    @CaseAgainstFaith1 Před 3 lety +50

    I’m a reasonably proficient technical computer user. But, never had a clue about those local/locallow/roaming folders. Or why there was ProgramData in addition to AppData. So, I learned a lot here. Thanks.

  • @seto007
    @seto007 Před 3 lety +114

    "And installer, which is beyond the scope of this video"
    ... I am intrigued.

    • @yumri4
      @yumri4 Před 3 lety +12

      Well how it is written on the Microsoft website it is "levels of permission" not "levels of integrity". Unless they went up and changed terms for no reason at all. There are 8 or so levels that a developer can use with 1 above what he called "installer". Usually the one that i know how to use above installer is flashing the hardware which overwrites everything with the version being flashed on to it. Most users never do this. Most users shouldn't ever do this. You do need hardware access on a powered off state of the hardware at the start of it to do it. It also can screw over the entire machine if it goes bad or if you put the 1 into the place of a 0.
      The level of permission he is most likely talking about is when you get into scripting then ask for and have the correct permission level to be granted internal system configurations. I am unsure why you would need permission above system and you rarely need to use system as admin is able to do most and usually you want to use user if you can. Using below user is a pain but in scripts you can do that on an account with less permissions than user level access has. You also want to have the least access granted that you need to run.

  • @aliiranpour5328
    @aliiranpour5328 Před 3 lety +57

    Adobe: let's put our folder everywhere.

    • @Valenspire
      @Valenspire Před 3 lety +5

      Oh yes! and lets rename the JSON File type to "Adobe After Effects JSON File". HUR HUR HUR we own JSON files cause we said so!
      Ah I just hate adobe... and autodesk, I really hope change will happen at some point but I'm stuck using their shit cause I've tried other programs but they just aren't any good.

  • @kavyaagrawal2013
    @kavyaagrawal2013 Před 3 lety +33

    Program files: Store files' programs
    App data: store file apps
    Local: local data
    Roaming: minecraft data i mean unlocal data
    Locallow: *_welcome to downtown coolsville_*

    • @dan2800
      @dan2800 Před 3 lety +1

      Well yes I go there everyday

  • @nickjuly4A
    @nickjuly4A Před 3 lety +225

    There's also a folder in the Local folder of AppData called VirtualStore that's used for legacy programs that try to save their configuration/preference files to Program Files (or any other non user directory) when the program doesn't have administrator privileges.

    • @Wolfpurr
      @Wolfpurr Před 3 lety +10

      Fuct fact: When i first read your comment i read VirtualStore as VirusStore.

    • @Wolfpurr
      @Wolfpurr Před 3 lety

      @William yes

    • @masansr
      @masansr Před rokem +1

      Isn't it the one that was made as a temporary fix on early Windows 7 for backwards compatibility?

    • @Acorn_Anomaly
      @Acorn_Anomaly Před rokem +5

      @@masansr Windows Vista, and I think it still exists. It's just that most things don't need it anymore.

    • @AmexL
      @AmexL Před rokem

      Gotta love how Microsoft names folders and directories.

  • @Polyeith
    @Polyeith Před 3 lety +338

    When I first discovered the appdata folder looking for my minecraft install when I was 9, I read 'LocalLow' as 'LocalCow' the first time, it kinda stuck and to this day I ironically read 'LocalLow' with the 'low' pronounced like cow

  • @daniellado2523
    @daniellado2523 Před 3 lety +130

    The Appdata folder is where many of my gaves save data is , because for some reason it can't be in documents or in "my games" folder.

    • @decayingfish3139
      @decayingfish3139 Před 3 lety

      It is where my minecraft mods

    • @Xighor
      @Xighor Před 3 lety

      Hate it
      Maybe there's a reason but it should be in your game file

    • @htcmlcrip
      @htcmlcrip Před 3 lety +1

      That's because you play the wrong games.

    • @chiefkeefgaming2005
      @chiefkeefgaming2005 Před 3 lety +3

      @@htcmlcrip TEARDOWN?

    • @DouglasQuaid999
      @DouglasQuaid999 Před 3 lety +13

      Ubisoft are so big brained they use C:\Users\*blank*\AppData\Local\My Games

  • @BakaDani
    @BakaDani Před 3 lety +117

    Minecraft modding is how I learned about the appdata folders. Then I modded other games and beta test others and now that folder is used almost every day for me.

    • @boogiehasfun
      @boogiehasfun Před 3 lety

      well my pc can't run 1080p yet so i cant even do this,

    • @BellCube
      @BellCube Před 3 lety +3

      Speaking of, Joe actually has a .minecraft folder. The guy plays Minecraft! (see 10:23)

  •  Před 3 lety +58

    Within a Windows domain network, you can have two types of users - standard user and roaming user.
    The idea is that you are either someone working from within your machine that is specifically assigned to you or you are someone who frequently has to login on a bunch of different machines.
    For that, you have the Local and Roaming folders - the Roaming folder gets synced across the domain to every computer you log in, if you are a roaming user.
    This is a practice many businesses have, even though it is deprecated.
    A great example of a roaming user could be that you are logging into your university's or work's Remote Desktop Services machines, where there are multiple identical servers and you get assigned one randomly to log in to. You would prefer your programs to behave in the same manner all the time, wouldn't you?
    But I stress this again - roaming users are a deprecated feature, and as for Remote Desktop Services, there is software solution called FSLogix that makes sure that your user profile behaves nicely with all the RD servers.

    • @dIancaster
      @dIancaster Před rokem +1

      Depreciated? So that's why the Army does it. Great.

    •  Před rokem +6

      @@dIancaster Deprecated, not depreciated 😂 as in, "fallen out of fashion / no longer current". Typically businesses use a third-party solution to make roaming users to work, because the built-in roaming user functionality in Windows doesn't work well.

    • @dekeonus
      @dekeonus Před rokem +9

      @ further, it is also discouraged by Microsoft.
      Microsoft now recommends using folder redirection to put %appdata% (i.e. roaming) on a network share so that reads / writes go out across the network to the filestore as needed rather than everything in the user profile¹ at login / logoff (which is a significant issue for any organisation with a bulk of users doing a 9-5 day).
      ¹ Not explicit in this video is all the other user folders that synced at login / logoff for roaming domain profiles: Documents, Videos, Music, Favourites etc.

    • @severussin
      @severussin Před rokem +2

      Ahh Terminal Services

  • @supra107
    @supra107 Před 2 lety +41

    The %APPDATA% variable used to point to just the AppData folder back in XP days, when there was only one AppData folder for everything. So in a way Roaming is also treated as a backwards compatibility folder.

  • @eno88
    @eno88 Před 3 lety +26

    It still feels weird that nowadays I come to your channel for accurate information.

  • @Shiny_Hunter_Rob
    @Shiny_Hunter_Rob Před 3 lety +82

    Oh, crap, Joe, I'm so sorry! I accidentally smashed the Like button...

    • @ReverendTed
      @ReverendTed Před 3 lety +8

      Aww, man! Why'd you do that? Other people might have wanted to use it!

    • @Shiny_Hunter_Rob
      @Shiny_Hunter_Rob Před 3 lety +3

      @@ReverendTed I didn't mean to...

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk Před 3 lety

      @@Shiny_Hunter_Rob Now Joe is going to have to collab with Stuff Made Here so they can fix that button...

    • @oliverlengeling6375
      @oliverlengeling6375 Před 3 lety

      You SMASHED it awww

    • @kanehi
      @kanehi Před 3 lety

      Try not to delete files unless you know it’s not going to be used. I did that once and the program couldn’t find a certain file to continue.

  • @miker8225
    @miker8225 Před 3 lety +29

    "see, it's all starting to come together now" I wish my life was.

  • @kongobongo
    @kongobongo Před 3 lety +42

    How about understanding Disk Manager. I got no idea what these values are or do

    • @htcmlcrip
      @htcmlcrip Před 3 lety +4

      Nit hard to grasp what's what but yeah video explaining it would be appreciated.

  • @rappscallion3238
    @rappscallion3238 Před rokem +14

    I worked for an international company with 65k users and they used roaming profiles. This was back in early when Windows 2000 was new. While convenient when it works it also caused lots of issues. Sometimes the profile would become corrupt and had to be reset. But the biggest issue was that it could increase logon times significantly. Basically the roaming profile is stored on a network share and then pulled down to the client they are login on to. Some times users profiles were HUGE and it could literally take two hours before they were logged on, especially on remote offices with slow WAN-links. Fun times.

    • @realdomdom
      @realdomdom Před rokem +2

      That's why there are two types of people: Those who hate computers and those who use Linux.

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane Před rokem

      I learned a trick back then, where I would unplug the ethernet port to force it to let me finish logging in.
      I later figured out that it was because a cloud syncing software stored all its data in my Roaming folder.

  • @lefteristhebuilder6159
    @lefteristhebuilder6159 Před 3 lety +5

    WOW! Early in the morning I had this exact question and was trying to figure it out myself! Now I see you have uploaded a video. Amazing work as always!!!!

  • @santoshkarela8433
    @santoshkarela8433 Před 3 lety +3

    This video is a life saver for someone like me who never played minecraft but has more than one user on pc.
    I wondered so much about how and where a program stores files and folders that also for different users.

  • @gzxmx94
    @gzxmx94 Před rokem +42

    Don't forget there's a system profile appdata folder in C:\Windows :)

    • @mazessj
      @mazessj Před rokem +9

      There's actually two of them: one under System32\config\systemprofile and one under SysWOW64. They're used by the SYSTEM account or, I think, any system account without a profile. I generally regard it as a dumping ground for apps installing or running in this profile-less context.

  • @telavus920
    @telavus920 Před rokem

    Its really cool to see how you changed your content around, from trolling to having actual informative videos about stuff you otherwise would be too lazy to learn. Thanks Thio!

  • @siberx4
    @siberx4 Před 3 lety +8

    For applications that elect to use both Local and Roaming, the typical layout is to put disposable "cache" type data in Local, and to use Roaming for actual explicit program settings/information that the user themselves might care about. This has the added benefit of not bloating out Roaming with data that can be safely discarded when synchronizing between machines.

  • @robertb6276
    @robertb6276 Před rokem +6

    Back in my QA and Tech Support days, I worked with a few developers that didn't know what the different AppData folders were for.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před rokem +1

      TBF, it's not like a lot of this stuff is abundantly clear. MS has grand visions, sometimes, and unless you know to go looking for documentation that explains it, you just kinda follow whatever interpretation makes sense to you. (Or what you read second-hand on a forum post somewhere.)

    • @theblah12
      @theblah12 Před rokem +1

      @@nickwallette6201 Not helped by the fact that Microsoft constantly changes their vision for Windows every few years, leaving an inconsistent mess.

  • @MrMartox
    @MrMartox Před 3 lety +198

    Every Minecraft Player knows that %appdata% is god

  • @theshrineofresurrection2081

    One of the most useful and informative videos on CZcams, congratulations dude!

  • @LucienSabre
    @LucienSabre Před 3 lety +2

    Finally someone who talks of the AppData folder. 🤩 It’s been almost a decade since I found out about it and the Local and Roaming folders - in a tutorial that showed how to get rid of the “hidden” files and folders left behind after you unistall a program.

  • @cyhan0425
    @cyhan0425 Před 3 lety +4

    Hey Joe, this was a truly informative video. 11 minutes zipped by like a great movie. Thank you for your great service.

  • @FelipeWalker2
    @FelipeWalker2 Před 3 lety +11

    Your channel is a blessing.

  • @sbasra
    @sbasra Před 3 lety +1

    Wow, you did well on questions I had but could not find the answer. I like this series.

  • @vinching926
    @vinching926 Před 3 lety +2

    temporary internet files back in the days was the treasure hunt for me like %appdata% for modern people

  • @iamstickfigure
    @iamstickfigure Před 3 lety +49

    Just want to say, I'm a big fan of "lightly tap the like button"

    • @ReverendTed
      @ReverendTed Před 3 lety +2

      "Gently caress the Like button."

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk Před 3 lety +1

      @@ReverendTed "Tenderly stroke the Like button."

    • @ReverendTed
      @ReverendTed Před 3 lety +2

      @@IceMetalPunk Dude, I was thinking my "gently caress" might be a bit much, but that takes the cake!

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk Před 3 lety

      @@ReverendTed I mean, I could certainly take it further, but then it gets into actually explicit territory 😂

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 Před 3 lety +1

      Like button: "This is my first time. Be gentle."

  • @antipoti
    @antipoti Před rokem +6

    Thank you! I was wondering about this for many years! Searching for game save files in all these hidden lairs...

  • @avejst
    @avejst Před 3 lety +1

    Great video as always👍
    Great that there are NO ads!!
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge to all of us👍😀

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 Před 3 lety +2

    I never knew the reason for those folders, but knew that I could find certain information in those folders though. Thanks for explaining all the reasons for those folders and I will try to remember them.

  • @danielraiter
    @danielraiter Před rokem +19

    Thank you, after all these years I now finally know!

  • @xehe3430
    @xehe3430 Před 3 lety +22

    I only use %appdata% when I'm playing minecraft maps or datapacks

  • @msowosalot
    @msowosalot Před 3 lety +2

    5:26 I recall if you're not part of a domain, the roaming folder is still there, the domain is just set to your microsoft account.
    thats how some windows 10 settings are carried, for example, if you set a wallpaper while logged in to your microsoft account on your desktop, the wallpaper image is put in the roaming folder of your desktop which is linked to your microsoft account. Then when you setup a new windows 10 installation, and login to your microsoft account, that roaming folder is carried from your old pc and copied to the roaming folder on your new pc.

  • @PoeLemic
    @PoeLemic Před 3 lety +1

    This is really good content. I'm glad that @ThioJoe is moving in this direction versus pranks. I resubbed to the channel, because this is stuff that I can benefit from.

  • @losttownstreet3409
    @losttownstreet3409 Před 3 lety +21

    You should use the correct API-Calls to get the folder as it may be changed with some MS version or installation settings.
    It's in the msdn-manual since the ancient time to not use any folder directly and instead call the windows api to get the folder-name.
    In a domain the admins change the file dirctory in the domain settings.

    • @tomkohler1609
      @tomkohler1609 Před rokem +2

      I've read in the "The old new thing blog" that in the early days, developers reverse engineered an internal windows struct to grab some data. When Microsoft changed the layout of that struct, programs stopped working. So they made a workaround. This mess is both the fault of Microsoft being too tolerant with them and *** developers who are unable to read the documentation.

  • @Insightfill
    @Insightfill Před 3 lety +8

    I've always treated the local folder as "disposable or easily replaceable stuff." Browser cache, Outlook OST file, etc. Roaming is often user custom stuff that would suck if it were lost.

  • @truffles
    @truffles Před 3 lety +1

    one of the most interesting videos i've seen in a long time with stuff i never really thought about too much but am very glad i know now.
    also would like to know more about integrity levels! sounds interesting

  • @AntonFetzer
    @AntonFetzer Před 3 lety +1

    Genuinely useful information.
    I have always wondered why the app data folder on old PCs is always full of gigabytes of random crap and why that stuff is there in the first place

  • @MrMulleteer
    @MrMulleteer Před rokem +3

    I started my journey with Windows 1.0 and have used every single version till today. So many weird things of Windows are just relics of backwards compatibility as skimmed in this video. Just like the evolution.

  • @mushroom-madness1
    @mushroom-madness1 Před 3 lety +20

    People who mod minecraft: _I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you_

    • @TinyDeskEngineer
      @TinyDeskEngineer Před 3 lety +1

      My library of installed mods is starting to grow exponentially

  • @Silvermage447
    @Silvermage447 Před rokem

    God bless this guy for just saying “that’s beyond the scope of this video” and moving on

  • @antishulk
    @antishulk Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for being one of the only youtuber a that records camera video at 60fps. it looks so smooth and nice in my opinion. So many people say they prefer the cinematic look of 24 and 30, but not me. I love the 60fps

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 Před rokem

      As a normal person, I don't see any difference at all until it drops below 20.

  • @omaralfar1666
    @omaralfar1666 Před 3 lety +7

    3:00 Just like Minecraft, except that most of the files are in "C:/Users/[Name]/Appdata/Roaming/.minecraft" while the Minecraft Launcher is located in "C:/Program Files (x86)/Minecraft Launcher"

    • @dieselgeezer18
      @dieselgeezer18 Před 3 lety +1

      yes

    • @BellCube
      @BellCube Před 3 lety +3

      Speaking of, Joe actually has a .minecraft folder. The guy plays Minecraft! (see 10:23)

    • @omaralfar1666
      @omaralfar1666 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BellCube Who doesn’t play Minecraft?

    • @greglir
      @greglir Před 3 lety

      I'm not sure why you guys are using forward slashes for the file paths. Windows uses backslashes for object identification to include folder paths

    • @BellCube
      @BellCube Před 3 lety

      @@greglir Still works if you type it in to Explorer tho

  • @LouisJungnickel
    @LouisJungnickel Před rokem +3

    FUNFACT @ThioJoe there is a shortcut for the appdata top appdata folder (time: 10:48 ) it is "appdata" instead of "%appdata%"

  • @susamay
    @susamay Před 3 lety

    I like this kind of informative video in the era of Unboxing & first impression.

  • @G0lden07
    @G0lden07 Před 3 lety +1

    You make awsome videos on computers and tech stuff. You're the best!

  • @ok-tr1nw
    @ok-tr1nw Před 3 lety +16

    So basically from what i understood from this vid
    AppData = ~/.config + ~/.local

    • @CONTINUUM2
      @CONTINUUM2 Před 3 lety

      I understand. Windows it's a really mess. In the next 10 year's windows will have tons of folder's with tons of files with pentabytes of really mess of nothing!!!

    • @autinerd
      @autinerd Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, you often see in Programs for Linux and Windows, that files in .local will go to %LocalAppData% and .config to %AppData%. (But of course there are exceptions)

    • @ok-tr1nw
      @ok-tr1nw Před 3 lety

      @sazanlip i hate non standard XDG apps

  • @DrittungenAppelsinen
    @DrittungenAppelsinen Před 3 lety +13

    can you make what happens if you stop all windows processes?

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  Před 3 lety +12

      Hm maybe

    • @cycrothelargeplanet
      @cycrothelargeplanet Před 3 lety +2

      You will get a BSOD if you kill a critical process and the erorr code will be CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED

    • @cycrothelargeplanet
      @cycrothelargeplanet Před 3 lety +1

      @@binku09 link?

    • @reidlab
      @reidlab Před 3 lety +1

      @@ThioJoe it would be hard cause some just BSOD with CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED . it would be cool to see what happens if you avoid the BSOD ones

    • @DrittungenAppelsinen
      @DrittungenAppelsinen Před 3 lety

      @@autogreen2k519 Yeah

  • @vinnieg6161
    @vinnieg6161 Před rokem

    Even though I understand very little about computers, this was easy to follow.
    Thanks!

  • @damnit00000001
    @damnit00000001 Před rokem

    Excellent Explaination.... It solves a lot of confusions in my mind for many years. Thanks

  • @weatherdynamics
    @weatherdynamics Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for making me a folders expert.

  • @ermilburn02
    @ermilburn02 Před 3 lety +5

    I get really annoyed when programs put files into my documents folder, especially large files, as these get synced up to my OneDrive and take up space.

  • @shikhanshu
    @shikhanshu Před 3 lety

    As usual, very thorough, intuitive and informative. ThioRulez!!

  • @frostech3149
    @frostech3149 Před 3 lety +2

    Half expected the explanation for LocalLow to just be "LocalLow is local but low"

  • @geoffreytrang8670
    @geoffreytrang8670 Před 3 lety +12

    The uploader forgot to mention the Windows Registry in this video. Some applications could also store settings in the registry (regedit.exe). In fact, the list of installed programs in Control Panel actually comes from the registry!

    • @Cyba_IT
      @Cyba_IT Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah, the registry is more for Windows OS settings rather than application settings. A few do utilise the registry though, you're right.

  • @ronaldraygun3386
    @ronaldraygun3386 Před 3 lety +6

    Thanks! This video really explained this simply and thoroughly. I had been wondering what the different appdata folders are for. Just like probably so many others, I encountered them due to Minecraft (e.g. my daughter wanted to move her Minecraft installation and maps to another computer, and they were hidden under appdata).

  • @iaincook8155
    @iaincook8155 Před 3 lety

    ThioJoe
    I really enjoy your uploads. You dumb it down so that even I can understand it. You recently did an upload of the processes your computer goes through when it starts up. Can you do one of what occurs when you close it down?

  • @Tarets
    @Tarets Před rokem

    I always thought "all users" installations meant that ProgramData will be used instead user's AppData, so there's just one common profile for everyone.
    Thank you for straightening this up :)

  • @Whysp
    @Whysp Před 3 lety +14

    Appdata is for all the times you've dated an app
    Change my mind

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk Před 3 lety +1

      To be fair, I probably have a better chance of dating an app than a woman at this point in my sad, lonely life >_>

    • @Whysp
      @Whysp Před 3 lety +1

      @@IceMetalPunk Rip for you my friend

  • @kattz753
    @kattz753 Před 3 lety +4

    Malware can get into these folders. I had something really nasty that kept coming back and I had to clean it out manually. There was always something in these folders. Can't remember the exact one offhand.

  • @The_MAD_IT_LAD
    @The_MAD_IT_LAD Před 3 lety

    IT guy here.. this really helps explains some functions of this, especially in RDS server environments.. good vid👍

  • @AgentFire0
    @AgentFire0 Před rokem

    Thank you for this very insightful and quite informative video. I like it all.

  • @unitrader403
    @unitrader403 Před 3 lety +4

    Advantage of putting the Config files in the Programm Folder:
    You can make the Program Portable, eg installing it on a USB drive and use it somewhere else

    • @leoncitoamx
      @leoncitoamx Před rokem

      You mean, saving the config files in the installation directory?
      In modern Windows editions, trying to write into Program files with write into Virtual Store instead, because the app directories are restricted by default.

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 Před rokem

      @@leoncitoamx a USB Stick is clearly not in the Program Files directory... or restricted in such a way by Windows afaik.
      With Programm Directory i reffered only to the Path the Programm was started from, not any specific Folder in particular...

    • @leoncitoamx
      @leoncitoamx Před rokem

      @@unitrader403 that's actually common. A lot of apps provide an installer and also a zip file for a USB memory, for example. There are even apps whose settings let you choose where to store the settings.

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 Před rokem +7

    Yeah, we were never supposed to write stuff into the program folder.
    NTFS/Windows XP was just the first tine that rule was enforced.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před rokem +4

      How many OGs here have had OTJ experience modifying the permissions of someone's Program Files\app folder to allow the program to write its INI file without crashing? haha

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 Před rokem

      @@nickwallette6201 I have no idea what any of those Acronyms mean.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před rokem

      @@christopherg2347 OG=old people. OTJ=on-the-job.

    • @dekeonus
      @dekeonus Před rokem

      @@nickwallette6201 Never: scripted login / logoff scripts, with elevated privilege, to change permissions of the file in question, but never the app's containing folder; and never permanently - always via login / logoff script.

  • @GavBeats
    @GavBeats Před 3 lety

    Great video, I’ve always wondered about the different folders in windows.

  • @alphanimal
    @alphanimal Před 3 lety +2

    As a Windows sysadmin I can say this was actually a very good explanation!

  • @skonaslp
    @skonaslp Před 3 lety +16

    I use the AppData folder when I want to install new texture packs for minecraft xD

  • @laundromatlot
    @laundromatlot Před 3 lety +19

    This is exactly why I like dockers, as you can easily set the location where each docker container saves their files to, and they don't have access to other locations if you don't give them permission. Meanwhile Windows programs save their files all over the place, some to the AppData folder, some to the Documents folder, some to the ProgramData folder, some to the user's home directory, some even in their installation directory. Even after uninstalling, many applications will have leftover files all over the place.

    • @amahlaka
      @amahlaka Před 3 lety +1

      Docker is all fine and good, until you are in a corporate network, behind a firewall, and acccess only to a private registry, then you have to edit all dockerfiles and compose files to add the url of private registry in the name of the package.
      And docker dev team is super pissy about allowing to change the default registry to anything other than docker hub

    • @mazessj
      @mazessj Před rokem +2

      Those files are left behind on purpose in case you decide to reinstall the application. Same deal with the current user registry. When you reinstall, your settings and data are still there.

    • @tomkohler1609
      @tomkohler1609 Před rokem

      @@mazessj But this is not what I want if I uninstall a program. Programs should stop to try being smarter than me. May be they can ASK ME, if I want to keep settings.

    • @mazessj
      @mazessj Před rokem

      @@tomkohler1609 This is a valid concern. Some (but very few) programs will ask you on uninstall whether you want to delete the application data/settings. Most don't. But most also default to not deleting this data, which is the safer assumption.

  • @peteheery
    @peteheery Před rokem

    Excellent video! Thank you! Liked and subscribed.

  • @manav1106
    @manav1106 Před 3 lety

    One of the most useful channel.
    - from a heavy laptop using student

  • @Inspirator_AG112
    @Inspirator_AG112 Před 3 lety +8

    This video immediately reminds me of Minecraft.

  • @magodosnumeros3389
    @magodosnumeros3389 Před 3 lety +4

    Greetings from Belém Brazil 🙂😎👊👍

  • @GutoohkGk
    @GutoohkGk Před 3 lety

    nailed the lightning, awesome video

  • @Daysra
    @Daysra Před rokem

    This is very well explained, thank you!!

  • @Neekzu
    @Neekzu Před rokem +3

    So basically Windows is absolutely shitty designed? Got it

  • @pyp2205
    @pyp2205 Před 3 lety +4

    Well I already know the difference between the "AppData" and the "ProgramData" folders. And the 2 Program Files.

  • @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-

    Incredibly well explained. Thank you.

  • @clonkex
    @clonkex Před rokem

    I knew most of this already but it was still very interesting to hear it explained so clearly.

  • @pianopianist5709
    @pianopianist5709 Před 3 lety +3

    I really want to comment something about that python screen, but I can't think of anything lolll

  • @Nico_44
    @Nico_44 Před rokem +3

    You can type %appdata%/.. to get into the AppData folder.
    And %appdata%/../locallow folder

    • @Nico_44
      @Nico_44 Před rokem

      @@abdulelahfallatah yes, but it also works with win+r

  • @double-you5130
    @double-you5130 Před 3 lety

    i love watching these as a minesweeper consulter and solitaire expert.

  • @Cyndadogo
    @Cyndadogo Před rokem

    Amazing Video Thio! this is something that always ask myself!

  • @myselfarav3024
    @myselfarav3024 Před 3 lety +6

    Now just imagine this 🙏 how many people were born 🙏 while you watch the video 🙏

  • @maihudon69
    @maihudon69 Před 3 lety +3

    6 likes Faster

  • @teemuleppa3347
    @teemuleppa3347 Před 3 lety +1

    I liked this video so much i actually double clicked the like button to make sure!

  • @marcoseliasmep
    @marcoseliasmep Před rokem

    Nice that’s a great explanation! As a game user and also being developer I moved the mods folder to Documents for all my projects. Really better in this use case.

  • @maxmouse3
    @maxmouse3 Před rokem

    Very interesting! Keep it up, your channel is great

  • @BkkTHBob
    @BkkTHBob Před 3 lety

    Excellent! Info I didn't know and will make (some parts) of life more easy.

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Před 3 lety

    I was wondering about that folder!! Now I know, thanks.

  • @hanif72muhammad
    @hanif72muhammad Před 3 lety

    I actually learn something new, thanks joe, very informative