I can't believe it! 2022 Toyota Tundra 100 mile real-world MPG test
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- In this video, I take the 2022 Toyota Tundra on a 100 mile MPG test to see what kind of fuel economy it can get in the real world. The results are shocking for this new Tundra. You'll want to watch this one!
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0:00 Intro
17:39 fuel economy final
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i’ll save everyone the suspense … he got 24.2 mpg
Thank you!
Thank you for your service.😌
Ikr...thanks!
Thank you!
Thank you lol
I appreciate the fact that as a CZcamsr who reviews trucks, you actually bought this truck & are giving real world reviews/results of what you experience. Keep up the great work!
@Dae Roberts yeah that's some privilege most of us won't have
True. A lot of the channels reviewing the new tundra are just talking about shit that they heard or what they think. Hell one guy compared his crew max cab to a double cab like we wouldn’t notice. Smdh .
Thanks.
Pretty much the same mileage I’m getting here in 🇨🇦 with my 2017 Ford F-150 XTR extended cab 4X4 with the 2.7 litre V6. I’m very happy with my mileage.
2020 Silverado 3500 dually with the 6.6 gasser unloaded on the highway running at 75 mph I get 16-17 mpg city driving will bring it down to 15 and loaded with 18k pounds I get around 7-9 depending on grades this new 6.6 gasser is a beast. Also this is all while running 35x12.50 mud tires with 2 3 inch spacers on the rear of each side and a leveling kit tires stick out half a foot from the dually fenders.
Great video providing real world experience and results. Exactly the type of video people are looking for when researching new products through CZcams videos.
hey Tim, I am glad that you are mentioning lane tracing (toyota)/ lane centering (ford). I would love to see a comparison between ford's LC and Toyota's LTA. I know this is a feature that a lot of reviewers does not care to review and I get it, not a lot of people use it , however, it is one of the feature that is a must for my next vehicle as I do long-distance driving. TIA and pls keep the vids coming.
Ford are Sox…..
I have owned the Tundra for about a month, and borrowed my friends F150 for about a week. The Ford lane centering work much better. It activates sooner and more often when approaching a line. If you test drive the Tundra, you will see it doesn't work that well.
My 2.7 F150 I had, I've gotten a couple times 25 mpg on a 100 mile trip doing 65 most of the time. And that was a 2016 with the old transmission.
Love the V8 vs 3.5l turbo reliability vs pollution. I've spent so much time saying turbod engines can be very reliable but I love the resukts of the packaged research you provided.
Coming from someone who majored in energy, comparing reliability and pollution makes no since. If you are looking at CO2, which is harmless, electric vehicles have a higher CO2 footprint when looking the product lifespan. That being manufacturing to end of life.
All I can say is can’t get enough of you baby (meaning Tundra)! Not stressing for the hybrid. Pick mine up this Friday 1/27/22.
That’s actually really good for a full size truck. That’s numbers of a suv. That’s awesome, thank you for making this video!
Which Suv?
As a tundra owner. We wanted more towing weight. And better fuel economy
Really appreciate how thorough and informative your videos are. You cover a lot of topics that the other channels don’t. Thanks
Thanks for answering the low oil pressure indication as it was a concern of mine. I did comment on another of your video's, asking about this potential issue. Thanks again Tim awesome channel.
I’ve noticed the comments. I did a video, but I think it worked better inside another video like this one.
Impressive - look forward to others reporting on this! I'm fine with the oil gauge as long as it works consistently and I know what it's telling me.
Recently took my 21 F150 STX crew FX4 3.5 Ecoboost on 400 mile all interstate trip. I have BFG KO3s tires. It got 22.3 mpg hand calculated in hilly terrain at 75 mph. I was very happy with it.
75mph going up and down hills and you got 22? Sounds hard to believe.
@@craptainofsea That's because it's the internet and likely BS. People are retarded.
I love how these new trucks are getting such better mileage and still have the power. I have a ‘21 F-150 XLT CC 2WD w/2.7 ecoboost and 3.55 rear end. Just completed a 1200 mile round trip from Tennessee to Louisiana and back with the speedometer set at 72, and got 24.8 computer, 25.1 hand calculated. That’s roughly the same my V6 Grand Cherokee got on the same loop, and it’s a few hundred pounds lighter.
Great to hear Tim's experience and yours.
IMHO, the 2.7 EB is best engine to come out in the last decade. We have a 2.7 EB in an F150 that's spent the majority of it's time in an open cast mine. Hot, dusty conditions with a pile of idling time. Numerous trips back and forth each working day to labs about 100 km return trip. Reliable, powerful and fuel efficient. .
I’m looking at trucks and still have an open mind to larger SUV’s and I’m still surprised many of the big trucks get the same mileage as many mid-sized trucks and 7-seater suv’s!
I clicked for mpg and got so much more precise, entertaining and informative intel. You are a star. Much appreciated! Thank you.
This needs more coverage. Thanks for doing this video, very important.
My 2004 Sequoia has had the same low oil pressure guage issue since day one. 240,000mi. later, its still purring like a kitten.
A kitten of passion.
Junk
@@johncronstrom9140 Goof
My owners manual on the 1st gen mentions the varying oil pressure, it's normal with no worries
Good video! I have a new one ton Ford to pull my fifth wheel. I do like my new truck, but if Toyota made a one ton I would buy it. They don’t break down!
I have had 5 Toyota or Lexus vehicles. Took them all to high miles. They weren’t perfectly reliable. But they were close to it.
But what they were NOT, is fuel efficient. Your results are shockingly good.
Holy cow. I have a 2016 and get 13.9. Thanks for the video. I want one of these ‘22 tundras that’s for sure.
Great video,I’m considering buying a hybrid tundra next year and gas mileage is a big factor and your video gives me hope that the hybrid will get unbelievable gas mileage!
Traded my 2007 Tundra Limited Crewmax for a 2021 Silverado 3.0 liter Duramax…..went from 15 mpg to 28 mpg. Don’t regret the trade whatsoever. Even still getting better mpg then 24 so Toyota needs to bring the diesel to America in my opinion.
Your yearly maintenance costs , oil changes in particular may change your mind. Even if you do them yourself. Any emissions parts are ridiculously high....even worse on the Jeep diesel.
@@JL-nq6iq You would think that, but I’m still happy with the change. Oil changes are a little more but not drastically. DEF hasn’t been as bad as I initially thought. Apples to apples, I’m still operating in the “black”.
I had a ram 1500 4x4 with the 3.6L V6 for years, with stock tires I averaged 26mpg highway all the time. Dropped to 22mpg when I added a set of 10 ply AT tires. Averaged 11mpg towing 7500lbs which is the same I get with my ‘21 tundra v8 towing the same 7500lbs.
Yea I find when towing v6 engines get just as bad mpg as a v8
Hi Tim,
Pretty impressive I have to say for myself.
Thanks for sharing.
Great video. Thank you for posting.
A lot of countries are taxing manufacturers and end users based on engine displacement. I wonder If that's why more companies are giving the US smaller displacement+ forced induction now. But I honesty don't know. As long as I can turn up the boost, it's fun. 😄
I got 24.8 in my 2020 Silverado 5.3 with a 8 speed automatic transmission. Running 80 in the hills of Tennessee on the interstate with 1500 pounds of payload. My truck is a 4 full door crew.
Sure you did
Riigght
@@JuanHerrera-ji5ti I have the picture from the on board computer in which I verified by my calculator because I didn't believe it myself. If I knew how there was a way to attach it to this I would. I don't lie!
I'm glad I didn't just skip to the end and I hope a lot of people didn't. Not just Toyota but all car manufacturers are trying there best to get the emissions and pollution down. If that makes people up set because there's no v8 motor that's what it is.
Really appreciate how thorough and informative your videos are.
Another informative video! Thanks Tim!
Very nice video Tim! I recently drove an unloaded 2019 f150 XL supercrew 4x4 with the 6.5 ft bed, 3.5 ecoboost and 3.31 gears on about 130 miles of mixed highway (55-60 mph) and small towns and was equally shocked! The truck got 24.8 average miles per gallon. Around town with normal, albeit gentle driving is typically 21.5 miles per gallon if I stay at or below 65. If I get in the turbos, have a heavy load or drive at higher speeds it'll definitely drop to around 17mpg. Nice to see the tundra is comparable
The key in getting good economy is to stay out of boost. Whenever a turbo engine is under boost it uses more fuel for the same amount of hp than a non turbo engine because a turbo engine has to run rich to prevent predetonation. It can run stoich under boost like a non turbo engine can. So the phrase "you either get eco or boost" is very true.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix What is "stoich"?
@@richardhouvener6423 its the ratio of air to fuel where you have exactly enough air is provided to completely burn all of the fuel. That ratio is known as the stoichiometric mixture or stoich for short.
@@richardhouvener6423 14.7 air/fuel
I have 2016 ecoboost 3.5 ant cant get anything better than 18mpg. Haven't ever been loaded, all highway miles. Real mpg is 16 when I drive normally
I have almost the same truck with 6.5 foot bed just gassed up after start tank from dealer running city mostly driving at 16 lets see after I finish this tank but very happy with this truck it rides like being on glass 😀
Great video as usual. I have gotten 24.8 with my 2021 6.2 High Country crew cab back road cruising under 55 mph easily. I always go easy on the gas, and I average usually 18ish in daily driving around town rural PA. I have a 2022 Platinum Tundra on order hope it gets better mileage your video gives me hope. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, I had a similar experience. But that engine requires premium fuel.
I'm glad I found your channel. I looking for my first truck to tow my RV and use to get to my day job. I'm not a car guy and I love your vlogs to you explain the car specs for the normal everyday guys thanks for doing to this.The mpg on TV his truck is crazy good .I wonder what will the mpg when towing. Thanks
@tim Hearing about Turbo issues…would love to hear your thoughts and a video with perhaps an interview with Toyota on this issue or at least a summary of your interactions with them on it. Super impressive mileage. Fo sho.
Interesting results. For future reference I recommend using a portable gps that tracks miles traveled as truck odometers can give an inaccurate mileage based on tire variations due to tire age, inflation, size or brand. Especially if you compare across different truck brands.
The truck is brand new so I don’t think any of those apply .
My Rav4 gets 20.9mpg.....
My car does the same thing, except it's digital not needle. It's not running full pressure anymore, if you floor it. It will adjust accordingly. At normal highway speeds (70 mph) it sits at around 29-31 psi. Full throttle it jumps to about 65-70 psi.
I really appreciate this channel!
The issue with the turbo is not that they had some problems. This issue is that they pulled the body off the truck to fix it. That implies if you buy one for long term (like many Toyota owners looking for reliability) and you need need to service the turbo well beyond the warranty, then the truck is essentially totaled. So the question is: "What is involved with servicing the turbo?"
Lots of money long term I'm guessing, ive had many turbos an nothing will stop bearings from going out in time ,dosen't matter who vehicle it is ,I mean toyota, Ford, so on ,turbos are just expensive in general.
I think I'll stick with my '18 aspirated V8 tundra for the long term reliability rather than 6 more mpg's and an unreliable turbo in maybe 3-5 yrs
That is insane ! Looking forward to getting my Hands on one ASAP! 👍
I got my 2022 Tundra SR5 TRD Sports back in December 14th, i been driving it daily for 2 months now i got 2,600 miles on it as of today. I have been averaging 16mpg city/highway in cold and snowing condition in the month of January here in Ohio, but when the weather is a bit warmer it goes up 18mpg in city/highway combined.
Love these real world tests!
I never got more than 21 on my 2 wheel drive Tacoma and not even close to that now with 70k miles on it. Avg of 17mpg, with slightly bigger tires, now so this is looking real nice.
I get about 17 in my 03 taco on 33s 🤙🏽
Great highway mileage Tim! Thanks
Great job, thanks!
Thank you!!! This guy just doesn’t stop talking!
I’m very excited to see what the new hybrid engine is gonna get
My 2021 Tundra 2wd has rated 13 - 17 highway. I use a 100% gasoline 87 octane. Nashville to Gatlinburg got 18.3 highway. Nashville to Tampa Florida 19.7 highway. 72ﾟ averaging 75 to 80 miles per hour. This was with the bigger nitto grappler tires also. I will be putting lighter weight tires on in the future, possibly electric fan. Is going to try to lighten the truck by 200 pounds.
Yes, I got same results in TX when I owned a 2007 Tundra DC 4wd, SR5 w/TRD 5.7L. I ran OEM sized A/T tires. Drop-in K&N air filter w/ air box mod was only performance mod. Hard folding tonneau cover. Best ever mpg was 20.6 mpg hwy running through PA using BP regular gas. Truck was loaded down with gear for a one year assignment out of state.
Good news, thanks for the information.
Only channel that actually tell us things that we don’t know. Thanks
I had a 2021 Titan 2wd crew cab a while back as a loaner and even running 80mph i averaged 19mpg. Running between 70 and 75 I consistently got 21mpg. Way better than I expected from that truck.
Yes, Nissan is pretty impressive. I am waiting on the '22 Tundra but have a '19 4wd Titan now. I almost always get 18-18.5 mpg on backroads, little to no highway. They are very impressive.
yup NA v8 mpg will be more sensitive to RPM and not MPH. the forced induction v6tt are more sensitive to mph, once you go over 75mph, the boost is on most of the time and gets horrible mpgs, even if you are sitting at under 2000rpms.
@@fongvang935 you are absolutely right. I have Sequoia with the 5.7, same as tundra '07-'21. Max torque comes on at 1950 rpm. If I cruise at 65mph, it stays at1800 rpm and I get 17mpg. If I cruise at 75 mph, its at 2100 rpm and I get 13 mpg that is the same as its city mpg!
@@fongvang935 exactly!
@@johndeaux9987 They're definitely an underdog. My brother has an 18 pro4x and loves it. I have a 16 xd platinum reserve and love it. Definitely the best seats of any truck by far. But that 2021 loaner definitely has me considering a new XD evem though the diesel is discontinued. I have towed the same stuff with half tons amd my XD and there is no comparison, especially with stability. Anyone who says you a half ton can do better towing hasnt towed with an XD. World of difference, especially in cross winds and 2 lane roads when an oncoming 18 wheeler flys by from the other lane.
Hey Tim. Love your channel. Does the new Tundra require 87 octane fuel. I live in Denver and we have 85 as an option just like you. I noticed you used 87. Wondering what the owners manual states.
Owners manual says 87.
Do not run 85 period. It can cause catastrophic failure in the engine over time. Especially, on a high performance, twin turbo engine.
I drive a 2017 charger Daytona 392. My commute is 30 miles each way on I5 in Oregon. South to work, north to home. My average mpg at 60mph TO work heading south, is 25ish mpg. My average FROM work heading north, is 32mpg. Tested in my 2020 ram rebel, it’s about 16.5 to work and 21 from work at the same speed. Leads me to believe I’m driving at a very slight uphill grade over the 30 miles to work and downhill heading home. The elevation difference is about 450 feet but my mpg is extremely consistent in both directions
Right on Tim! Great, helpful video. Thank you.
Thanks for the post. I appreciate all the details and spec's you provide. Just wanted to add my MPG for my 2020 F150 XL/STX super crew with the 5.0. I use 87 octane mostly from Costco. All street driving is 15 - 17 mpg. All hwy driving is 20 - 22 mpg. Combined driving is 18 - 19 mpg. Now I have take a long road trip from Arizona to South Dakota and at a certain point there wasn't 87 octane available so I started using 91. My hwy mpg increased to 24 - 26. I was blown away! Now to be clear this is no towing, just some camping equipment in the bed with a driver and 2 passengers.
That Coyote is a hell of an engine.
I have 5.7 tundra an this new one no way I would buy one ,im actually looking at that same truck you have, ive had those Ford 5.0 an those are an were ahead of there time ,one of best engines ever built.
Hey Tim, I just compared the bore and stroke of both the Ecoboost and the Toyota. The Toyota has a 100 mm stroke vs 86.6 mm for the Ecoboost. A longer stroke makes more torque, but a short stroke revs higher and makes more horsepower. This likely means the Toyota can use less boost at highway speeds because the engine makes enough torque without the turbos for light loads. However, the Ford is faster, which the boys over at TFL Truck confirmed in a drag race. Again great videos. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦😎
Also, longer strokes wear the drivetrain more, which isn't as good for durability. The Ford will likely win that durability comparison too, over time.
Horsepower is what delivers higher power at highway speeds, not torque. Torque is "off-the-line" take off power. I think you have that "less boost needed on highway" suggestion reversed.
My 1980 Fairmont Futura 3.3L I-6 engined car had high torque, which made driveability around town very good, but horsepower from the engine was low, and that limited highway speeds quite a bit back then (but since 55 mph was the speed limit on interstates and highways, not many drivers noticed the shortcoming with that engineering design).
@@rayrussell6258 Do you know the formula for Horsepower. It’s HP=(torque x RPM)/ 5252. So if an engine can produce more torque it automatically means more HP at a given engine speed. A way to make more horsepower is to simply rev the engine higher.
A turbo engine can produce more torque at a lower rpm than a naturally aspirated engine. However, this comes at the cost of fuel economy. Now if an engine can produce enough torque without getting into boost, then The engine can operate it’s Stoichiometric range which means it’ll be more efficient. A longer stroke engine will help with this but a longer stroke engine can’t rev as high. Go watch the CZcams channel called “engineering explained”. He has a really good CZcams video on the concept of turbo engines and stoichiometric air fuel mixture.
BTW, your Ford Farmont with 3.3 L I6 only had about 94 hp, and 157 lb-ft of torque, which is significantly less than even the smallest and weakest naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines of today. Engines from the late 1970s, 1980s and even in the early 1990s just sucked.
@@db3837 I retired from a career in powertrain engineering and vehicle development in the Big 3, Danny. I know horsepower and torque calculation.
The important thing for driveability is the shape of the torque curve in the lower rpm range. The 1980 3.3L naturally-aspirated I-6 had a very steep rise in the lower 1000-1600 range. In those days, it drove very well for that engine displacement, and got excellent fuel economy for a 6-cylinder. I improved on mpg with the manual transmission's overdrive gearing.
You are incorrect, however, in saying to increase horsepower you simply need to increase rpm. The shape of the torque curve enters the calculation of hp, and increased rpm's ITSELF does not generate horsepower.
In fact, the torque and horsepower curves reach a peak at a point in rpm's, then begin to fall as rpm's increase.
On the old 3.3L, after 3500 rpm, horsepower flat-lined, and thereafter fell. After 2000 rpm, torque was already falling, so you didn't accelerate very fast after getting to highway speed, even though nominally horsepower was still increasing up to 3500 rpm. Far too much is made of horsepower numbers, in marketing and in the automotive press.
My earlier statement doesn't change, long-stroke is not good for durability. The Ford engine will be more durable.
I seriously doubt Toyota is moderating boost at highway speeds, based on engine torque. Today's ECU-controlled fuel-injected engine stoichiometric range is a given, no matter whether the turbo is in-use or not, anyway. The driver's foot controls when the turbo kicks in, not base engine torque per se. Drivers get impatient, even when torque is nominally still increasing (slowly) on a given engine's torque curve, and they press down on the accelerator for the turbo boost, which robs fuel economy for the vast majority of drivers. Toyota cannot program that boost out at highway speeds, or else they risk owner dissatisfaction with the powertrain.
As far as I know, there aren't any naturally aspirated (and non-hybrid) 4-cylinders left on modern cars/trucks sold in the US by high-volume mainstream brands, so there isn't any true comparison as such to my old 90+ hp I-6. 😀
@@rayrussell6258 love when people with the knowledge chime in
@@rayrussell6258 Hi Ray, there are actually lots of naturally aspirated 4 cylinders engines being sold. Ford Maverick and Escape Hybrid. Base Santa Cruz pickup. Nissan Rogue, Toyota Camry 2.5 L, Toyota Prius, Honda Civic 2.0 L, etc.
In terms of Reliability only time will tell. My Dad’s 3 previous 3.5 L (2010, 2016 and 2021) have been good. However, for some stupid reason some idiot at Ford decided to place the water pump inside the front timing cover. So replacement is a very expensive and long process compared to a normal water pump.
Great info and video 👍👍
i was able to get 25.5-26.5 out of my ecodiesel pretty easily. im impressed and happy as hell that the tundra is finally getting some good mpgs. Right now im loving getting 22-24 out of my 2020 Ram 2500. we live the good life now with this much power and mpg...if you drive nice lol
What engine in your 2500?
That's impressive!
The turbos will kill this truck way earlier than it would have without them.
People say bad about things about the turbo but why is that ? Could you explain me if you don't mind
So your saying the oil pressure gauge is reading more accurate than other gauges finally something about a Toyota I can like
Great video, thank you. Look forward to seeing the 2023 Sequoia.
Just spoke with my Toyota sales rep here in Canada and he stated from their training course today the combined fuel rating for the trd pro is 11.2L/100km or 21mpg.
That’s actually 25.2 imperial mpg since you are using CDN litres/100km. Not sure why a Canadian dealership would give you US mpg numbers.
@@TheIrongutz they just gave the litres, used an online converter to get mpg, what’s your math to get 25.2 mpg?
@@AkashChahal A US gallon is only 3.8 litres and a imperial (Canadian/UK) gallon is 4.54 litres. Just take your Km’s you drove and convert to miles, then convert litres to either US or Imperial gallons and do the miles/gallons math for either. Or, just use the online convert and just output to UK mpg. The US mpg figures are always less than ours because they measure gas volume in US gallons.
@@TheIrongutz yeah that’s what I did, I gave the l/100km measurement and US Mpg measurement for reference. Didn’t think anyone would use imperial measurements since we use l/100km up here and the states only use us gallons.
With 332:1 gear ratio, you should get great mileage! I had a Dodge with 355:1 and 5.7 L engine that would get me 21 mpg on the highway. My current Ram Rebel with 5.7 L and 392:1 Won't come close to those figures, but it does very well when it comes to towing as far as power.
Yep and that's why the guys at TFL got better fuel mileage when towing heavy in a 2022 Ram 1500 with the V8 than they did in the 2022 Tundra with a TT V6, despite being 11k feet above sea-level.
@@putmeincoach7663 so you are saying that this truck is great on gas if you used as a daily driver just to go to
Work and home????? But if you used for work of any sort you are not doing good?
Crazy that Toyota went completely opposite on gear ratio compared to the previous gen Tundra. 4:30 ratio in my 2014 Tundra. Which obviously gets terrible fuel economy but tows excellent.
Ram rebels kick ass, even if the mileage is a bit worse it’s a sweet truck
@Xxplicit Nice! My buddy has a 2020 that he likes taking the bois on adventures in, and its a really capable, comfortable truck
I just bought this truck yesterday. Awesome ride!
Fantastic Overview! Only Limited By Ones Imagination! Grumpy Old Ver!
You have a positive Delivery!
I have an ecoboost 3.5 and I would trade it for a 5.0L in a heartbeat.
Last November I rented a 2021 Chevy 1500 Silverado to help a friend move 250 miles. I put 522 mile total on that truck over the weekend, 250 loaded with furniture, and the rest unloaded. I averaged 12 MPG for the trip. I used cruse control as much as possible at 70MPH. Chevy lied. The only way you could get even 18 MPG would be to drive 55 on cruise, and accelerate really, really slow - slow enough to piss-off everyone unlucky enough to get behind you. Basically, Drive like a 95 year old lady. Now, with gas at $4.50 a gallon, yikes! I would hate to have to fill that tank!
What engine? I get consistent 19-20 mpg on my 47 mile commute with a mix of highway/city on my '20 silverado 1500 V6. My '17 TRD pro tundra used to get 11.4 mpg
@@albertopaniagua55 It was a rental, not sure what engine it had. But we were using it like a pick-up truck - loading it with stuff and getting work done. I love driving a pick up (loaded with all the great tech packages) and love sitting up higher than cars & SUV's, but I hate the stops at the gas pump!
Wow thats actually impressive, I wonder what the hybrid would get but that is good
if your in Nebraska and got those numbers thats pretty damn good. I've driven across country 4 times in the past year and a half and the fuel in Nebraska and that state specifically cut my fuel milage by 35-40%! and it was consistent 3 trips in summer and 1 trip in the fall season... each time as I crossed the boarder and filled up my MPG was cut by 35%
I did a cross country from San Francisco Bay Area to Tampa Bay Area in a loaded up Ford Expedition Max (Ford's Suburban), 3.5 l Ecoboost, through cities, mountains, deserts, etc. My combined average was 20 mpg, so I am not surprised by your result. In fact, considering the conditions of the test, as close to driving downhill in a vacuum as you can get, I thought it might have been higher. That Ford was pretty impressive, btw, particularly when comes to steering, felt like a much smaller vehicle.
I get similar results with our F150s and the 3.5 EB and have been now for 4 years.
I bought a new 2002 Tundra and still have it today. Great truck. Anyways, the oil pressure gauge on it has always been low. There is lots of info on it online about it cause Toyota set it that way for some reason. But 187,000 miles and 20 years later the truck still runs great. And I use it on SE Oklahoma mountain dirt roads as a feed truck primarily now.
Your tundra is just broken in at that mileage.
I have an '02 Tundra with the 4.7 V8 (original owner). She just rolled past 400K! I have always had a low oil pressure reading too. This is an Alaska truck too. Lots of cold weather and dirt roads and she is still going strong.
Living in West Hollywood ( lots of traffic, lots of idling ) my mom’s Platinum 2022 is getting 19 mpg, really impressed considering her old mpg was 12 lol.
Thanks!
I think the oil pressure "L" means about 40 psi and the "H" is about 80 psi so no issue on the oil pressure gauge.
It'd make the gauges more informative/useful if they'd put the numerical values on them. Just a thought for Toyota.
@@ksorsomeplace ya id like to see a value on there. might as well be a picture of a potatoe and and barbie doll or something.
@@ZodVisto Don't have any idea what you are saying.
Freaking awesome numbers. Cant wait to see what the I Max can do.
I can’t believe no tow hooks..thanks for sharing your videos.
Oh I know end of the world because you have to have something easy to hook onto if you get stock
What have you done for the last 30 years when you didn’t have a tow hook on a vehicle?
What a true gentlemen, what a video, thank you. I have a 2002 V-8 Tundra 140,000 miles and commute every day to work, no fancy lights in this thing but it can fly and the only thing wrong is the steering rack is starting to leak. Reliable toyota's.
That’s impressive!!!! Toyota figured out the fuel mpg issue!!!! Look forward to seeing what the hybrid will do! Look forward to towing numbers with a 8-10k lbs
for 8-10K lbs trailer just buy real truck. Trust me
Loving the new Tundra content! I’m considering trading my 2020 in for the 22, and your channel has been helpful.
110k views but only 66k subs???? doesn’t make sense. Thank you for taking the time to do these vids
meant 69k lol and it’s been 1 day since the upload
It is odd. My views are really strong across this channel yet subs are hard to come by. Oh well. I'd rather have the views.
Good work
I’d be really interested to see your 3.5eb vs 5.0 coyote reliability dataset
I really wish I could find a 5.0L V8. I've been searching and nobody seems to have one at a dealer or in the media fleet.
I like my 5.0 Coyote 2017 f150 Lariat
Thank you for providing such stellar content! You are my favorite and most trusted reviewer. The result of this test is impressive, however shorter trips can yield atypical results. I recommend using a full tank of gas to get the most accurate results. Using the pumps automatic shut off mechanism to accurately measure low quantities of fuel isn’t very scientific. This is especially true if the amount of fuel in the tank before filling is different. That’s why using the second click method after 30 seconds from the first click off adds more fuel. Basically, the initial fill up in this test was a two click, and the after fill up was a single click. Likely a difference of 1/2 to 3/4 gallon of fuel making the hand calculation result in a higher fuel economy. Still, the computer predicted result is good news and is likely more accurate. As for oil pressure, low oil pressure equals better fuel economy. Toyota engineers purposely keep it low during light engine loads. Keep up the awesome work!
Yeah, I was doing 50 mile tests and that got booed for being too short. Then, 75 and same. Finally a 100 mile test. The reality is these tests take 4 hours of my time and it is hard to do a full tank of gas in a single day.
Every manufacturer discourages topping off. Fuel needs room to expand and contract and it can damage emissions systems. TFL is notorious for doing this…
@@Pickuptrucktalk its a liquid,not gas
Totally bogus comment on oil pressure. I spent 30 years in powertrain engineering and vehicle development. NOT ONE TIME have I ever heard any connection between oil pressure and fuel economy. Now if you meant oil viscosity, then you might be closer to accurate. But pressure? NO, that's not true.
Keeping oil pressure low will result in more engine component wear. I doubt Toyota would be that dumb.
I watched this video 3-weeks ago, but I think I saw a widely swinging oil pressure indicator .... what's seen there would just be a gauge sensitivity that is far out of norm in the industry, and sends the wrong message to customers. I'd expect Toyota should get a lot of negative customer feedback on that, and the gauge will be changed to industry norm pretty quickly. Or they will use the feedback as a reason to eliminate the gauge, and give you "idiot lights" instead. No excuses allowed here, it's another design flaw on this new Tundra.
@@smrtguy77777 Not true, in fact, no damage will result to any emissions system. The worst that could happen is a bit of fuel spillage on the ground, and even that would be rare. Expansion of liquid gasoline is small. You would burn off enough fuel in just a few miles to offset any expansion.
Much better than last time wow there's hope lol Thnxs for sharing bro
I bought a new 2016 F150 4x2 4 door with a 2.7 ecoboost v6. The only reason I bought the truck was because I could get it with a 165 cuin v6 twin turbo. If it only came with a 3.5 n/a v6 and a 5.0 v8. I would not have bought a F150. I used to drive for Lyft with my truck getting 19 mpg in the city. You have to have a light foot to get this number but it is real. I have 81k miles on my truck now and the only problem I've had with the engine is a $20 cylinder head temp sensor.
I opted for the 6.2 Silverado and I get 23mpg on the highway
Hope your engine lifters last
That is pretty impressive mileage, but how about while towing or at least with some reasonable load. I rarely drive my truck unloaded. Hauling hay, dirt bikes, pulling an RV, that is the real MPG test. The new small diesels also get better mileage. Certainly better than the old 5.7 for sure. But how could it not be?
Thanks for the great information!
Next week for towing.
I wouldn't be surprised if it doesnt do mucn bettwr than the old 5.7 when towing because you'll be under boost alot more and when a turbo engine is inder boost it has to run rich, so for the same given power it will use more fuel than a naturally aspirated engine because the naturally aspirated engine can run stoich where the turbo engine cant.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
Yes and no
You’ll be into the turbos more but with the 10 speed transmission it helps to balance things out a bit
I seen several Towing Videos and it seems to get a couple miles to the gallon better than a V-8 but honestly when you’re towing if you get better than five or 6 miles to the gallon on any truck with any engine you are doing good
@@tv-ke4lx that is true. I was stoked when I got 13mpg in my titan XD towing a heaby food trailer. Pretty good considering the truck weighs 7400lbs by itself.
@@tv-ke4lx TFL has already shot a video that disputes your claim. A Ram 1500 with a V8 got better mileage towing 8,000 pounds than the 2022 Tundra did, and that was at 11,000 ft. above elevation where the twin turbos are much more efficient than n/a.
Tim, don't like this powertrain for my personal purpose, but great video. Looking forward to seeing how it does towing the travel trailer.
It will be much worse, as evidenced by TFL. A Ram 1500 with the V8 got better than the 2022 Tundra, towing 8,000 pounds at 11,000 ft. above sea-level.
wow thats good better then i would have thought
Maybe not apples to apples in terms of power and torque output, but my 2021 Silverado Crew Cab with the 2.7 turbo regularly averages 23mpg.
Is your truck 4x4 or 4x2?
@@redfish1289 4x4
@PickupTruckPlusSUVTalk ...... I'd love to hear your take on the wastegate issue.
For sure. Wouldn’t want a truck that. requires the cab or engine to be removed for a repair. Especially after the warranty expires
I just did a video.
Like your vids, I subscribed. I own a ‘21 Ridgeline Sport, I’m a Toyota guy but so far, not sure, Ridgeline hasn’t given me any trouble, and waiting to see how Tundra’s hybrid is, how Tacoma is redesigned.
wow, i have a 2021 Tacoma sr-5 and may upgrade to a 6-cylinder Tundra... nice upload...
Really nice truck but honestly the new redesigned sierra GMC Denali is the way to go 😎
Did they keep there v8 option? if so it's definitely going to sell more then this new tundra ,an I own 2014 tundra 5.7 ,it hurts to say it but toyota in my opinion lost alot of customers to trucks like the one your talking about now .
The 5.0L has a 12:1 compression ratio. That is how they are gaining efficiency. It is also E-85 compatible which cuts its emissions down by as much as 80%. It can be one of the cleanest truck motors you can buy today.
Except that no one uses E85 because it costs more money and it is less efficient
@@tv-ke4lx it depends where you are buying it. Some states are promoting it as a great product and selling it for half the price or regular. Some places sell it more like avgas because the 109 octane gives some engines like the 5.0L a major bump in power, so they are charging extra for the performance. Many 5.0L owners use E-85, at it gets better economy on propane or E-85 then the base 3.3L gets.
One thing they could do on the oil pressure gauge, since they don't put actual numbers, is have a green range. Also, I used to get mpg like that with my Ford 5.0 2011 work truck. It had a 3.55 rear end and a tattle tale GPS device so I could not speed. At 70 miles/hour on the interstate I could easily get 22-23 depending on wind and how much weight I was hauling. I think what also helped a bunch was the tires. We ran Michelin LTX M/S tires if memory serves me correctly. They lasted forever and were really good on ice.
I had a 2012 f150 with the 5.0
I never got anywhere close to those numbers, but it was lifted with heavy mud tires.
Got 16-18mpg on it.
Best engine I ever had tho, ran super smooth and got 200k miles on it with nothing more than basic maintenance. Ran as good as new when I sold it.
I used it for work, it towed and hauled every day.
Got a 2018 silverado with a 5.3 now.
I dont have as much faith in it when it comes to reliability, but im getting 18-24 mpg
hi handsome, nice trucks. I really like when truck reviewers show the gas pumps and receipts. thanks keep recording. drive safe don't forget to stop by a Dunkin donuts for some vanilla filled powder donuts and decaf coffee.
One 3 gallon fill-up is not a great indicator of fuel mileage. One thing to consider on this particular truck is the unusually long filler tube. Fuel tank is on the passenger side while the filler port is on the driver side. This can make the auto shut off system in the pump less consistent. My guess is that the real MPG is closer to what was indicated on your trip computer. The best way to measure actual MPG is to log fuel usage over several thousand miles. This smoothes out the inconsistencies. None the less it seems Toyota has definitely improved the overall fuel economy of the Tundra. Well done Toyota, well done.
John Huff,
"Fuel tank is on the passenger side while the filler port is on the driver side. This can make the auto shut off system in the pump less consistent."
I 'm not convinced. I'm thinking it wouldn't make much (any !) difference. No proof either way ...
@@fjb4932 he's talking about air in the line coming back to trick the pump shut-off. This happens on all vehicles. However, he's right, the longer the distance, the more likely air will get trapped along the way, and cause a premature shut-off. Air has less ability to escape as fuel goes in, when the narrow line is longer from the tank opening, holding fuel in the line briefly that you just put in before it can get to the tank. For a proper top-off, you have to see the fuel, not accept the pump blindly.
Even on normal systems with both tank and fill on same side, I've had a lot of variation on the number of times the pump shuts off before I actually see the fuel level in the tube. I top off on every refueling, and my trucks have two tanks, not just one. It happens all year round.
it is a weak 6 cyl compared to my 2021 Tundra 4x4.
You have to take the number like a grain of salt, redo that run tomorrow and the number could be less. But it’s probably safe to say it will be consistently above or right at 20 mpg.
Of course it will change day to day because there are so many variables that go into it
As Tim explained he did everything possible to keep things fair for this truck compared to any other vehicle that he test drives
I have seen many of his test drives and he does a very good job keeping things equal and fair
Best fuel economy I ever got watching a Tundra review. A subject matter expert like no other.
I kinda like the way TFL does their refueling by waiting 30 seconds & then topping off to the next click. That accounts for the gases in the tank & I think it more accurately would reflect the actual fuel consumption