Musk's Malicious Minions / Massaro & Melaniya On Hardening Attitudes in the West & russian Lies
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- The first official episode of Massaro & Melaniya in the Morning, our new weekly show where we will give our dynamic back-and-forth on the week's events. Please comment and subscribe if you want to see more. This week, we discuss the State of the Union, the hardening of Western attitudes toward russia, and the curious case of Elon Musk.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:53 - The State of the Union
5:55 - Is time on Ukraine's side?
8:54 - Western attitudes are hardening
11:43 - The West is realizing it was wrong
14:42 - It's our own fault
16:21 - Look how far we've come
19:50 - The isolation of russia
22:32 - Denuclearization & demilitarization
25:23 - Elon Musk
26:59 - Fantasy & self-interest
29:00 - It's only ever America
30:35 - China
33:05 - Snowden, Assange, Dotcom
35:20 - russia is good at propaganda
Music: "Evening Melodrama" by Kevin MacLeod
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Paul "Retard" Massaro
Idk how musk can limit the use of starlink if u can use it u can use it right? Like think about it how can he prevent drones from being used but there still be internet service on phones and comms it don't make sense I think he is just saying that to try to make it look like that to Russia maybe idk shit is weird lol
@@notanemoprog Great Honey!, How is yours, Sugarpuss ? calling her sweetie, Not Right ! Very CREEPY !
True, “you can’t control what happens inside Russia,” but you can isolate them until they trade nukes for concessions. Even Putin is too proud to become a total vassal state of China. And with so many to trade, they could keep it going for a while.
Weekly show? Yes, please. Do it guys.
I think we will!
Ukraine + USA = South Korea Russia + Belarus = North Korea
Thank you Paul and Melaniya for such a support of 🇺🇦. We definitely need conversation like this weekly to let as more people as possible know what is going on in Ukraine, about russian barbarian violence.💙💛
Great listen! Unfiltered no bs slamming of the ruzzians.
The western political problem is partly a feature of democracy, that is few voters wanted to know.
There were no votes in hawkish rhetoric.
In London oligarchs flaunting wealth and moving in influential circles was tolerated despite not one but two reckless assassination plots using exotic methods.
It takes leadership. Which we have been desperately lacking
An excellent conversation! There are many blindspots that Ukrainian voices can help us navigate; they have been hearing russian lies for so long they have developed resistance, so we should allow their judgement and experience to inoculate us from misinformation. 🇺🇦
Just love your guest’s insights!
I appreciate the uniqueness of this channel dedicated to Ukrainian policy. Such a breath of fresh air on CZcams.
Amazing conversation. Just go on..
Brillant!!! Yes weekly would be great
Great interview and conversation, Paul.. bravo!! Taking the fangs and claws out of ruzzia sounds like a good plan...
You guys are so young. Russians were the bad guys in the early 1960s, when I was a child, and our family went to see all the James Bond movies. In the 1980s Russia opened up and we had so much hope of re-integration and and end to fear of nuclear annihilation.
The Ukrainian people, the media campaign, and Zelensky are the reasons why support will remain high. We are amazed at what we are seeing. A people and culture we didn’t know about it’s blowing our mind. Really!
Yes, and they have been living with this aggression for so long, feeling that nobody was listening ,except for the usual neighbors who couldn't help them enough. Now the lid came off, the world has seen how much like the rest of us Ukraine is, how "cool" their art scene, culture, etc. And how unique also, with the cossack history fueling their heroic fight for independence .
@@olasylvia1 interesting that many of the elites did know that Ukraine was special. Now, many older elites are talking about how they knew how special Ukraine was,even in the 1980’s. Interesting that they are now speaking up. They just say that most didn’t get it, so they didn’t talk about it. The arts, music, engineering, attitudes, etc. Thats’s why now, the truth is backed up by them when asked. The truth is the only propaganda that last. A comedian is just what Ukraine needed to open up the Curiosity of the west. He will go down in history as the first 21 century statesman. Also, elite Ukrainians were prepared to get out there, when the opening came, to get the true message out. Can’t believe how many young people were soo prepared to win the narrative when this opportunity presented itself. Maybe it was a necessity.
Yet another Paul + Melania banger! 💯
Elon needs a date with Bill Browder so he can learn the dangerous game he’s playing.
A tremendously good conversation. Thanks to you both!
The Elon thing is really quite mysterious, except for the obvious business interests in the country. I suppose even brilliant people can convince themselves of strange contradictions.
Starlink's approach is mysterious and possibly malicious. On a day of missile attacks on infrastructure in Kharkiv and Zaporizhia, and during the early throes of a russian offensive, Starlink threatens to remove the eyes of Ukrainian troops, citing their discomfort with its use in "offensive" operations. Russia is still the invader on Ukrainian land; until they are driven out, Ukraine is fighting for the defense of their country. The timing and content of this statement should make SpaceX partners in the US government nervous.
or maybe he's not all that brilliant...
It’s so sad Ukraine had to suffer so horrendously before the Western World had its ‘awakening’ about Russia. And it bothers me a lot that Ukraine still has to beg again and again for the next package of weapons to defend itself from russian evil.
I know. It's tragic and endlessly frustrating
That bothers me as well, Ukraine shouldn't need to beg for weapons.
Bc we/the West talked Ukraine into giving their nukes to Russia.
Thank you for your support 💙💛💙💛💙💛
Paul, thank you very much for your support of Ukraine!
That's awesome! Keep doing such episodes
Great you invited Melaniya again. And yes, you should do it weekly 👍
I think this video and this channel deserves to be viewed by much more people. Great podcast! Well done!
Thanks Paul, Melaniya! Fantastic video!
She’s back!! She’s back!! So informative.
Gosh, Melanya's English, intelligence, and overall maturity are astonishing. Thank you two. Subscribed.
Yes, we love your Massaro Method, but it's also nice to try new formats; especially since you both gel really well.
Paul and his guests don’t disappoint !
I like the new format! And I'd be happy to follow on a weekly basis. But please don't reduce your "normal" great method though! Thanks to both of you, Melaniya and Paul!
I agree👍
Well, this was far more enjoyable than a discussion on the world Russia has brought to us deserved to be! I felt I was sitting down for my morning coffee with friends to decry the very things that kept me up last night. Thank you, Paul and Melaniya, for this. No matter how horrid things are it's always small comfort to feel less alone in it. Your discussion on the insanity of Russian disinformation was especially on point. I hope to see you back next week!
a weekly show with a two of you sounds like a great plan. I am in !
I think it's happening
Excellent job, Paul and Melania! Slava Ukraini!
You always have the most thought provoking conversations! I wonder though if Western attitudes are hardening towards Russia, what do you think about the United Nations? I don’t know What to think of the United Nations at all? Can you and Melaniya comment?
Thanks for introducing us to people who give us perspective without such an American media bias. So refreshing!
Thank you! UN is frozen solid because of russia on UN Security Council. Not fit for purpose
Hearing a lot of thought provoking information out of CZcams channels today and I absolutely LOVE IT. Thank you both for this great conversation. 🇺🇦✊🏻🇦🇺
Can’t wait for next week!
Great interview! I'll definitely watch a next episode!
Ok, so if it's going to be a weekly thing, then I'm in.
This is a great concept. You really should do this every week. SNL The Weekend Update, but serious.
I think we're gonna
@@apmassaro3 Great news! BTW, Melaniya needs a better mic 😃
We freaking need to have you on air weekly, guys! I love your conversations!
Great video, and loved to listen to Melanyia, so well informed and sensible. Regarding the West's and in particular Germany's love affair with Putin, listen to Timothy Snyder's lecture "Germany's Historical Responsibility For Ukraine" which is available here on YT (do a search for the title). Snyder's point among others is that Russia has throughout the years systematically been cultivating Germany's WW2 guilt complex toward the USSR sacrifices (conveniently ignoring the fact that Ukraine was the primary victim of the nazi attrocities).
Well said. Also there’s the part where the USSR and Germany were once allies, diving Poland amongst themselves. While the dissolution of that pact may have been inevitable, I perceive a great deal of irony in Russia or the USSR claiming to have been the most responsible for allied victory over Germany. When I hear this I usually want to ask, “do you mean the USSR was gobbling up Poland just to lead Germany into a false sense of security?”
Did Russia also take advantage of the fact that post-Maidan Ukraine built a national identity looking to the heritage of the OUN and UPA, which attempted (unsuccessfully) to collaborate with the Nazis, and were themselves responsible for mass murder of groups of people (Poles, Jews) also murdered by the German Nazis?
Thank you Paul.
Awesome insights! Elon's mentality aligns a lot with: the end justifies the means. He seems to see civilization as a whole in the sense that he could see human/individual rights as a block in the path to mars/his-goals.
his position can easily be brought to the stage of "oh, stupid Ukrainians, just die, so that I can fly to Mars in peace"
Their money still works with Olympic organization
Yes it does. International sport organizations are badly corrupt czcams.com/video/IAoaqNGKWbs/video.html
pretty accurate, thanks!
Will be amazing 👏!
Great video! Thanks! Looking forward to the new one
Thank you Paul for this videos and asking ukrainians to speak about Ukraine ♥️🇺🇦🇺🇲
I really enjoyed your conversation. It is exactly the sort of thought that bothered me recently.
❤ Melaniya
brilliant talk! Please do more
Thank you, guys, as always, for defending Ukraine and truth in the information war.
As for Musk, my theory of his motives is this: he's very scared of death (fear of death is a strong slavery). It makes him want to appease putin.
great show! Thanks Paul and thank to Melanka "you know" ofc.
New fav podcast
Wanna hear more of this!
Thank you, it was great!
great talk with cool explanations!
great conversation. i enjoyed that video. keep them coming😀
OMG, so smart and beautiful people, Melania is the best Lviv coffee drinker)
Cool
SLAVA 🇺🇦
Regarding information warfare (not Alex Jones Infowars), Russia and China are very good at it.
Hi Paul, thank you for doing these. I find it very informative, please do more of these!. On a side note, is it possible to match the volumes of you talking vs Melanie? Because so far, Melaniya is screaming in my headset and you are whispering :)
I'll crack it up for the next one. Thanks
Great vid! Pls do make it a weekly thing
I do love the show.
Paul is gallant as always, Melania is a charming beauty, thanks!
Stream suggestion: You two discussing the topic of Russian “vrayno”.
I'm starting to see the pattern here. I kinda dig it 🔥
Melaniya reminds me of a friend of mine in real life and I really enjoy these conversations.
I wish this video is watched by as many people across the globe as possible. The topics addressed by Melaniya and Paul are so important now and for the future
Thanks!
Lovely chat!
I have to admit, I was a Putinversteher a year ago.
I'm curious....when did you stop being a Putinversteher and what was the reason?
Germany is stil not prepared to cut the relationship with Russia, not only the government but the ordinary people as wel that's the only explanation why they keep delaying arming of Ukraine
Thank you, Paul, for your support of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely win.
Great discussion.
Am I dreaming ?!!! I’m very glad to see this my Friday mornings have a new purpose….
I have much to say about the mood of Americans towards Ukraine but I’m fairly confident that it’s politically suicidal to be a Marjorie Taylor on the issue of Ukraine. There are a lot of useful idiots for Putin but those of us who know are completely unwavering and will remain that way until Ukrainians do not need us anymore. Then it’s onto the phase of rebuilding.
Ultimately I think It’s orders of magnitude more important to many of us that we support Ukraine, than it is to the trolls to support (Russia/ Putin whatever that is.
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Please, create a weekly show)
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Brilliant episode! I can't believe we can enjoy this kind of goodness weekly.
Regarding Musk, I will say this:
I dont like him, but I also dont hate him. He is a wild card, unpredictable.
Tbf he did rush to the aid of Ukraine, as a private citizen, as a business man, when Ukraine needed help the most. Without Starlink, who knows where the front would be today. But as a business man he has to look at the numbers.
We are not entitled to his internet. To free internet. So he has every right to limit its functionality. Especially if no particular contract was made beforehand.
But I would have wished if he didnt decide that over night and instead contacted Kyiv and told them something like „I give you 2 months to switch to some other means of communication“.
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Paul HOW can the Ukrainian military use their drones if Starlink is no longer available? That is the worst thing that Musk could have done at the absolutely worst time. What on earth is he thinking-or is he even thinking>?
May be stupid question; but...Why do some say "return to 1991 borders" and some say "return to 2014 borders" ?❔❓
1991 borders are the internationally-recognized borders of Ukraine. 2014 borders would be wrong because at that was the year russia temporarily occupied Crimea
The need for isolating Russia permanently or at least for a long time is basically up to the russian people. If they act and revolt to change the situation it could change earlier, but the russian people seem passive to a large extend. Even if they think Putin is an idiot they will not do anything about it. With regards to russian propaganda. Yes, it is deep and substantial. Most of us now know that they never speak the truth and it is always manipulative. Their own "Pravda" to an extend that they dont even see it them selves. Are they good at it now that we know it? I think they have striking ability to scare politicians to hesitate in the necessary decisions to counter Putin and support Ukraine. This is what we saw with the Leopards and now we see the same old circus with fighter jets. The russians keep claiming red lines and escalations and how many times did we cross those allready. But it has been decisiveness in utter slow motion and that is a pitty.
I think we need to at least have a decade or two cooling-off period. Last time we integrated, we badly misunderstood the position of the russian state and people
@@apmassaro3 There may be some considerations here. First of all I think we all at least in Europe are highly aware of any form of dependency with trade partners. On the other hand if we are too restrictive about Russia when Putin is gone we may end up in a Versailles like situation where the Russian look at the West in a revengefull sort of manner.
If Assange is not speaking the truth, why is the USA so hell bent on shutting him up.
Keep making videos Paul! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Musk has a direct line with putin
Paul, Melania thank you. Can you talk about the Washington American policy establishment or policy elite a bit? I have the sense that the carry-overs from the Obama Administration inside the Biden White House have been part of the slow-walking phenomena. But i cannot put my finger on it. I came to know Ukraine starting in 2008, and i was completely furious with Obama (for whom i voted) by 2014. I had a friend who was a retired State Department guy who agreed with me that we should have stood up to Russia in Crimea, and on the Syria no fly zone. Who are these people and how do we get them out of Washington? I write frequently to Biden. Why can't i convince him to hire advisors from Poland or make Ben Hodges the Defense Secretary?
You're wasting a lot of fury on the wrong people. Fact is, if the conditions in Ukraine were the same this year that they were in 2014 then there is not a single Western power structure that would or could have acted any differently. When Putin annexed Crimea, the Ukrainian military existed on only paper. Following Maidan, there was essentially no leadership and a barely functioning gov't. The US is not the Justice League and we've learned far too well that putting US boots on the ground amid centuries-long conflicts not of our own making only invites more disaster and too many dead Americans. So we doubled down on building up the Ukrainian military to NATO standards and 'encouraged' the development of more democratic institutions while helping them fight the rampant corruption. These steps helped to bring Ukraine to the position they were in in February where they were finally able to fight back.
It like a zombie horde on steroids
More please and thank you!
So it will be a weekly show now? :)
I think so
Cool
You Rock so well Paul in this really amazing show with Melaniya… It will be interesting to make a special show around an investigation about Elon Musk and his relations with Russia and China, with many different guests. Or may be if possible an open show with Elon around Russia…
Slava Ukraine 💙💛
You went too far turning down the volume on your mic Paul-please turn it back up a bit thanks
Got it. Thanks
Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons because control of those weapons remained in Moscow...
Powerful duo
Damn, she's intelligent and hot at the same time. Just perfect combination!
Look at these two government stooges interact with each other. It's so cute.
Paul the rizzgod 1:29
Tim Pool also went off the deep end for Russian Propaganda
I love a Massaro’s pin. Anyone knows where I can get one?
I respected Musk for his drive into science and pushing the boundaries in technology, but no more. His irrational behavior and statements are too much for me. What a shame.
is this a new Melaniya stan vlog? 👀