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NFC North Predictions: Will Jordan Love & Packers OVERTAKE Lions? Bears or Vikings DARK HORSE? | PFS
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- Paul Farrington, Jack Weinberger, and Robert "Ziggy" Ziegler share their predictions for the NFC North ahead of the 2024 NFL season. Did Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions do enough to overtake the San Francisco 49ers as the top team in the NFC? Will Jordan Love carry over his second-half of the season performance as the Packers turn their attention toward a Super Bowl run? And how will the Green Bay defense look under new defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley? How high is the ceiling for Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears following a big offseason in the Windy City? Will Justin Jefferson and the Vikings be a surprise playoff contender with either Sam Darnold or JJ McCarthy at the helm? Later, the guys share their preseason division MVP before making their NFC North predictions for the 2024 NFL season.
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Timeline:
00:00 - Introduction
03:58 - The Favorite: Detroit Lions
14:30 - Top Challenger: Green Bay Packers
26:38 - Dark Horse: Chicago Bears
35:25 - Bottom Feeder: Minnesota Vikings
41:56 - Non-QB Player to Watch
44:44 - Preseason Division MVP
45:45 - NFC North Predictions
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The most powerful form of renewable energy on earth isn't nuclear fusion. It's the joy I get from schadenfreude when NFC North fans say they think the jury is still out on Love or hang their hats on the possibility of regression. Truly delightful.
@@Mizike6 it’s all they have 😂😂😂
It seems fans of other NFC North teams seem to hang their hat on the possibility of the Lions regressing. So don't act like it's unique to those who aren't fans of the Packers.
@@davidsadler2140Except you know, the Lions actually have three top 5 salaries on offense, a lack of depth at key positions.. oh, and the packers were actually better than them by the end of last year :)
@@jessecook3378 Hardly proof that any regression is in the works. I just have a hard time seeing the Packers take as big a leap as some expect. For the record I see them finishing 11-6.
If they play even close to the at they played from week 10 on, they’re a juggernaut. And that’s assuming they didn’t get any better. Which I don’t buy.
I think the Packers defense got better because Matt started getting more involved. He got sick of Joe's sry ass.
It’s rough hearing this light weight talk about his entirely underwhelming drinking prowess.
The Lions losing CGJ will be a net positive. The dude played like 3 games and caused more confusion on the field than anything. Iffy Melifonwu was a top 10 safety and he'll get his first season as the full time starter with CGJ's absence.
DJ Reader replacing Benito Jones, Carlton Davis replacing Cam Sutton, Terrion Arnold replacing Jerry Jacobs, Kevin Zeitler replacing Jonah Jackson, Marcus Davenport playing opposite Hutch...they filled all of their holes and the team is filled with young starters who are only getting better.
For WR's, the Lions dont really need a "good" 3rd receiver. That 3rd WR would literally be the 5th receiving option and they have some solid players in DPJ, Kalif Raymond, and Antoine Green.
Barring a bunch of major injuries, the Lions should be a 13+ win team.
This is the best positive take on the Lions I’ve seen. But I still think the Packers will be better.
@@kjgallagher4 dude you read my mind you couldn't have said it better well done!
Marshawn Lloyd had 7.1 YPC behind the same line that Caleb struggled behind. Maybe it was as much Caleb trying to do too much as it was the O-line?
If you watched any game against even an average d-line you’d know that wasn’t the case.
@@conormurphy8330 like against Notre dame that Caleb averaged 5.3 yards per attempt, throwing 3 interceptions to one touchdown and -2 yards total on 13 carries, while Lloyd had only 8 carries averaging 5.8(46 total) with a touchdown. He was averaging more on the ground than Caleb was in the air or ground. Hero ball fail.
Just to clear it up because it was a common misconception at the time. Gutey never said anything about moving on from Jordan. That was all taken from a clickbait article title (from adam schefter of all people) that ended up being taken down and apologized for because it was so disingenuous. This is the full quote from Gutey:
"Reporter: What have you thought of how Jordan’s played these first seven games?
Gutekunst: A little bit up and down like our entire offense, right? You know, I think that it’s been a work in progress for the entire offense. There’s been glimpses, particularly in the second halves, of really good football, but we have not started very well. I think that group, that unit as a whole, has a lot of work to do. But at the same time, I think they’re kinda committed to the process, believe in that group of guys and expect better results coming.
Reporter: Is it going to take more than just this season to find out what you have in Jordan and if he is the guy going forward?
Gutekunst: I hope not. I think we got 10 games left. It’s going to be a very important 10 games. I think he’s done a lot of really good things. I really like how he’s responded to the adversity, how he’s led the team. Again, we have to be better as a unit, and I expect that to happen over the next ten games. I think we’re going through some things that we knew we would go through. We haven’t had the results we want, but I do like the way guys are responding to things."
Somehow, these quotes turned into "Gutey doesn't think Jordan is the guy". Insane to me.
Ziggy dismantling jack's "rookie cookie" game should have its own clip
Lions just might be on their Super Bowl Hangover this year and regress. But will see
I think the fact that they outplayed the 49ers and lost in the NFC championship game will added motivation for the Lions. The 49ers needed a few flukey plays in the NFC championship to win that game. It started with the Lions cornerback have what shouold have been a sure INT bounce off his facemask into the hands of the 49ers receivers setting up a TD. Next, the normally surehanded Gibbs loses a fumble. Finally, Josh Reynolds droops not one but two 4th down passes that would have been first downs. Josh made those plays all year and you expect that he would make them in the championship game. It just wasn't meant to be for the Lions last season, but again it should provide added motivation for this season.
I’m a huge bears fan. I don’t think people realize how much Fields killed our offense. Trubisky was a better QB. Caleb is about to make a world of difference.
1:42 the correct response to that would be "well it's about to happen again"
The start of the Packers' season was a nightmare for Bears fans.
Lions 13-4
Packers 11-6
Bears 8-8
Vikings 7-10
Packers 5 seed, win at Falcons in WC round; win at Eagles in Divisional; win at Lions in NFCCG; win SBLIX against Ravens or Bengals
Vikings are not winning that many games lol but besides that I agree
I think you are underrrating the packers like everyone we winning 12 or 13 games and we going all the way so don't be surprised when it happens
Lol Lions win 10 games if theyre lucky.
@@williamhermann6635 I'm a Packers fan, but I fully believe they're legit. 9 or 10 wins is their floor.
@@Love2Musgrave And you won't be surprised when it doesn't
Never mind what the numbers say,as greenbay fans we watched all our games,our dline is underrated.Its simple joe Barry was the problem.
I completely agree man our DLine is no joke, now if our backers can turn it up it's a rap
Its like Barry figured out what they all did well and did the exact opposite.
Go Lions
I cant wait to see Rashan and LVN with their hands in the dirt
@@brokentubing no it's GoPackGo foh
The Packers are going to bring their bread and cream cheese to the NFC North! #KingsoftheNorth
Love that this one came out on my birthday! Big cheesehead here, and thank you guys for the solid analyses and entertainment. I know how I’m starting my day now.
Happy birthday Ben!!
The Vikings O-line is not better than the Packers 😂
I will joyfully look back at these episodes as the guys trying to stay positive knowing full well deep down that Love is about to shit all over the league and therefore end all hopes of a different King of the North.
😂💯
Good show. Nice to hear some informed people talk about the division.
I enjoyed the breakdown guys,and I don’t have any major arguments with your takes. You boys definitely know what you’re talking about 👍🏻
I’m a Packer fan in N.C., but soon moving to South Bend,Indiana.
Does SB have a Packer bar?
Keep rockin the great content!!
Not surprised that Vikings fans still don't understand what this Packers team is. Enjoy watching and understanding.
I just hop on to watch ziggy silently shake his head after Zack says something stupid
So many varibles.. but in the end i think it will come down to injuries... Lion are a fav.. but not by much... other 3 are right on thier tail
Love how everyone forgets the bears o line as they were talking about Caleb running for his life constantly at unc
Agree with Ziggy. Lions will be hard to beat! I like their chances of getting to the Super Bowl this season.
@ThePaulFarrigtonShow IMHO the team with the best coach and the best quarterback will win the NFC North. It’s that simple. What quarterback in the NFC North can put his team on his shoulders and carry them to victory? What head coach can take young unproven players and turn them into an offensive juggernaut without the “luxury” having a bevy of top 10 picks, including the 1st overall selection. You know the answer. MLF and JLove will bring home the Lombardi Trophy sooner rather than later. I think Dan Campbell takes gambles on fourth down so many times because he doesn’t have faith in his quarterback. I feel that he thinks he better go for it now because Goff may not get another chance. Matt LaFleur has confidence in his quarterback and his ability to convert on fourth down. It’s just another play. If it doesn’t work, he knows JLove can overcome it and still lead the team to victory.
RIP Khyree Jackson, @PFS can we get a small little conversation about him kind of like a nice final bye?
Justin Jefferson best player in football? How about when he plays the packers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷♂️🤷♂️
He killed us in our first matchup last year, the second game Jaire shut him down, so 🤷, we’ll see how this year goes…
None of you guys mentioned the depth of skill groups. You all went through the lions with a fine tooth comb but glanced over the Pack. That's OK. We will haunt you this year
Mannnn we got like 10 videos talking about the depth of the Packers skill position players. 😂
Packers fan so I've seen more Bears QBs fail than I can remember but I think Caleb will unfortunately be the one to break that trend... he has that improvisation factor on top of being a fundamentally sound QB, that rarely goes poorly
You know he looks just like Johnny football.
@Toddnesbitt no, no he doesn't 😂 good reach though
Live the show boys, keep up the great work!
Welcome back guys. Side topic, terrible situation with your Vikings and that poor kid who passed.
My ?s for GB are they still don't have a kicker/punter, Marshawn Loyd is a talented runner but has tiny hands and can be stripped of the ball. He's gonna get carries. Not a ton, but some. Is he gonna fumble in key moments? I don't think Jordan Morgan is a day one starter. Will the O line suck? We lost two key guys. Green Bay Has an embarrassment of riches at most positions, but the ones they don't are key positions that can cost key games. I think GB will be good, maybe even great. I think GB will win the division, but Detroit has the better chance of winning the SB. They are more playoff built than GB. I also would not under estimate Goffs ability to just bust out with a legendary playoff performance. When it's clicking there, he's as bad ass as any QB in the league. As for the Vikes and Bears..... It's hilarious that their fans think they will be good. The Vikes drafted a fourth round QB in the first round, the Bears drafted Ryan Leaf 2.0 and added a bunch of guys to join him in disappointing the city of Chicago. No more than ten wins between them.
OL is going to be more than fine. If your question marks are specialists and the back up running backs, your team is pretty damn good.
Great Show Boys!
Carson Wentz might be a better example of a QB who looked like an MVP and then regressed for good.
In Wentz's case I really do wonder how much injury took out of him.
@@ThePaulFarringtonShow Fair question. Not as clear-cut as RGIII, but definitely a possibility.
It will continue. Go Pack Go!
When I look at the NFC North this year, I see three possibilities based on recent NFL history:
The pessimist option, which would be the 2021 AFC East. This division was a close race between two wildly inconsistent teams: the Bills and the Patriots. The Bills ultimately finished 11-6, while the Patriots went 10-7, with the Dolphins finishing 9-8, and the Jets bringing up the rear at 4-13. Given how young the Lions, Packers, and Bears all are, this race could replicate that one in terms of inconsistency, though I doubt the Vikings will be as putrid as the Jets were.
The optimist option, which would be the 2022 NFC East. I think this kind of unlikely, given how much that division got fat off the NFC North (11-5 combined record,) and AFC South (14-2 combined record.) I severely doubt that the NFC North posts that kind of record against the NFC west and AFC South this coming season.
Finally, the realist, or as close as you can get to one, which would be the 2021 NFC West. This division would send three teams to the playoffs: the Rams (12-5) Carddinals 11-6) and the 49ers (10-7.) The Rams of course went on to win the Super Bowl that year, while the 49ers reached the NFC championship game.
Take this as you will.
The Lions have been a consistent team for over a year and a half. They have not lost back to back games, and only didn’t win multiple games between losses.
This is the Lions last 30 (22-8) games: W, W, W, L, W, W, W, L, W, W, W, L, W, W, W, W, L, W, W, W, L, W, L, W, W, L*, W, W, W, L
I don’t think we need to worry at all about the Lions being inconsistent.
I like how the lions were 30 mins from facing a team they already beat for a Super Bowl but somehow they’re frauds with an amazing lineup but apparently this “again” is gonna be the year of the bears
😅 that doesn't make sense on the Lions part.. that sounds like an oxymoron tbh.. I still don't get why the Lions get the shade they do.. they're a REALLY good team, and feel they're still kind of slept on.. I think they're easily a top three favorite to make the Super Bowl this season in the NFC.. and depending on who you talk to, they are even FAVORITES to make the Super Bowl this season!.. let's see how it goes..
I just do things and logical thinking.. 🤷
Everyone in the division seems to have potential for 10 wins or more, and maybe three teams could make the playoffs, but what if they all beat up on each other instead and only one makes it, I could see this going either way…
The Minnesota Vikings: best of the Bottom Feeders 😁
I see the lions winning 9-11, Packers 10-14, bears 1-10 😂, Vikings 5-7
I think the Lions have to get pass the Packers first...this year will be different if the Lions don't get better.
Totally see what you’re saying with Gibbs Paul, as entertaining with the football as anybody in the league
I like Dallas Turner as a prospect but two 2nds, a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th to get him? Yikes.
Vikings GM has no idea what hes doing. Hes trying to walk some middle ground between rebuilding and remaining competetive. Thats the fastest way to sustained mediocrity.
I don't think it's Kwesi's fault. Our owners insist on being maximally competitive every year no matter what. that really constrains your options as a gm.
@@ThePaulFarringtonShow I mean I don’t necessarily disagree, but I’m not sure that it solves any problems, just points to more. I think it’s understated how big of an advantage GB might get from NOT having an owner. Allows the team to think long term. No 80 year old pressuring the team to WIN NOW. No 75 year old man wants your 5 year rebuild plan to ensure 10 more years of competitiveness.
@@ThePaulFarringtonShowthis is very bad ownership at its peak there.
Sam Darnold... Come on guys.
10 minutes into this video and we’re not even talking about Jordan Love yet
Yeah that was really cool.
Our secondary is ranked 8th for a reason.Our dline all had 4 sacks or better.Its like me telling you all about Vikings.We don’t watch yall games.Joe Barry was the problem it’s that simple.Atkeast 4 players on our defense played in 2 NFC Championships
Yup that's why I believe with Jeff hafley and this new scheme we gonna fucking feast I can feel it
The Lions are your problem
@@brokentubing the lions reached there ceiling.They have to worry about Chicago.
@@JimmyHaffa-ez2yf Nope. Not yet. Detroit is going after the Niners. Every great move the Bears make they do something crazy. Caleb and Rome haven't signed yet? Stadium foolishness and you still have the same HC although that's brilliant on the GM's part.
@@brokentubing I’m sorry Detroit was good for a year.Its other teams coming for that.Thats the thing about the NFC,it changes every year.
Yeah I think the Vikings are going to be all right this year, but they gave the Lions hell for two two games this season.
Jack, you're a great guy...But Nooners? Hit some IPA's or Bourbon Buddy.
Don't forget they got Brian branch. Actually they got five or six other receivers in stock too as well and all of them are real good.
Hey don't forget that the Lions kick the s*** out of him on week 4
Championship level I don't think so I think they're going down to like 7 wins and that's it
well i don't think the bears have a good o-line so you may see a bad qb play from the rookie. Bears did all they could to give weapons to the rookie but i mean even the best can't do much when you are sacked 5-9 times a game and the packers who had one of the worst sack lines had their best games against the bears
The Bears will win the North for over 10 years in a row
McCarthy is biggest bust of the draft.
Go Pack Go!
🦁
Josh Allen is Big Ben 😂
Without a superbowl
History repeats itself... Packers about to dominate the division for a while
1. Packers 12-5
2. Lions 12-5
3. Bears 8-9
4. Vikings 8-9
Lions got this
@@brokentubingHANDS DOWN.. 😅 to me it's honestly not even a debate.. everybody that's not a lions fan, I want them to relapse so bad😂😂😂 but the reason that they won't is because they got the formula right.. and haters don't want to see that they got the formula right..
The packers have no chance of dethroning the lions
There’s always a chance in sports, it’s just unlikely
Nope. Lions still Kings
Rookie cookie, whoever loses has to eat a cookie, the winners get to try and find the worst flavor of actual frosting to put on it…
…pg version, lol…
Detroit will fall off this year
Detroit has the most favorable schedule in the league! They don’t play outside until week 9! And they only play 3 outdoor games all year! Goff notoriously struggles outside, if they don’t win the division something very bad happened.
Lmfao. Same teams as packers, vikings, bears. And 3 first place teams. How is that easy.
Didn’t say easy, just read. I tried to spell it out as well but go look up Goffs home and road splits as well as his indoor and outdoor splits and you will see what I mean by “favorable”.
Detroit will fall off this year, last year was pure luck
When did this news come out?? 😅 Detroit doesn't have the most favorable schedule.. however I think what we do is fans is over analyze.. stop and I'm always one of those fans who can see things even keel.. they'll be fine, at worst case scenario the Outlook is that they'll get to the NFC championship game but in reality they are expected to get to the Super Bowl.. I know that may be tough for some outside fans who don't really like the Lions to accept but it's the expectation overall.. and I think people need to realize this is a new era of football.. an arrow or the Detroit Lions are good now.. and you have to accept it or you're going to draw yourself insane and be more delusional than what you would like.. guys trust me it's okay LOL..
@@WWG3802but what is that based on??.. like I will give you a high five and agree with you if Detroit had like a bunch of veterans on like these crazy contracts, but they're doing it with the formula that we've all seen work in the World of Sports... Using their young guys/prospects and developing it through the draft whike sprinkling it with some veterans to help push them over the top.. every time I've seen teams in sports do this and use this formula it has always been a success, 10 times out of 10!.. this is also the first time in history Detroit has used this formula.. so it looks like they finally got it RIGHT!!.. which make sense for why they have an improving every year since Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes arrived.. this is why Lions fans are as confident or even cocky ( to some) as they are because they realize that the Lions finally got the formula right! (for once).. the formula of success that has worked for all sports teams in all FOUR Sports to sustain success for YEARSSSss.. and you can see the progression of their younger guys each seasons too, which makes it even more encouraging..
Go Pack Go!!!
The bathrooms down the hall to the right.
The favorite should be the Packers. They were better than the Lions in the last half of the year. They have a younger squad that Improved more. And they have the better QB and HC.
I expect GB to win 12 or more this year. I expect the Lions to be close but clearly in 2nd. I expect Williams to be a rookie and the Bears to be mediocre. And the Vikings to be bad. Very bad. 😂
They're not the favorite for a reason bud.. and you can't forget that the lions are young too.. want to say they're like the 6th youngest in the NFL.. and that when the Green Bay got over them on Thanksgiving was more good for the Packers than it was detrimental to the Lions.. overall I don't believe ESPN was fooled by that, I feel like they viewed it as the Packers catching the Lions off guard on a short week or something with them having a bit of a banged up offensive line that game.. mind you the Bears took advantage of that same problem just a couple weeks later.. I think another thing that helps the Lions is that they're more unified and veterinaries as a cohesive unit.. you know what I mean.. like they've been through the battles together a little bit longer than what the Packers have and the group that they have.. they're doing it all together.. also I think being hated on as much as Detroit has really helped out the Detroit Lions.. and actually works to the Lions advantage.. the Packers don't have all the pastime hate and that "me against the World" fire that Detroit has.. and because Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell is there overseers, it makes for a perfect marriage 🤷
I've said it before but if Detroit wasn't hated on as much I think they actually would have lost to the Rams this past season in the playoffs.. ESPECIALLY WITH THAT SECONDARY THEY HAD!.. between that loud ruckus crowd and I'm using the hate that everybody had forced on them, I think what we witness is HEART! why Detroit pulled out that game..
Do you really think the lions have the best Oline in football? How many times did the Packers pressure/sack Goff in the Thanksgiving game?
What happened in the first game Lions vs Packers?
@@brokentubing won't happen again. Lions beat up on a struggling rookie squad.
@@ryanjones8700 Love wasn't a rookie. He just couldn't start like he can't get paid. The Lions make no excuses when they lose.
@@brokentubing everyone around him was. Not to mention all the injuries. Doesn't matter, Packers have whooped them for pretty much as long as they have existed.
@@ryanjones8700 Over the last 10 years the Lions are 10-10 against the Packers so stop lying. The 2nd lesson for you is to never make excuses for losses because that tells who you are and what you're willing to except
Fell off
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Don’t feed the trolls. Keep up the great work!