Makita 18v Starlock Multitool Review DTM52 VS DTM51 VS DTM50 Makita Multitools. Which is Best?
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- Let's take a look at the New Makita Starlock Multitool. The DTM52 (XMT04) has a wider oscillation angle than the 2 previous brushed Makita Multitools, which together with the longer blades available with the new starlock system gives a much faster cut. The AVT Anti Vibration Technology makes the tool more comfortable to use than its predecessors.
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That was long awaited! Makita finally updated their 18V multitool with a brushless one and they seem to have done a good job. They now need to update the 18V random orbital sander.
Quick side by side of the 3 Makita multitools czcams.com/video/tuRGT15vhB8/video.html
The noise level sounds like my Dyson in low
Can't wait for the line up of multitools. Thanks & appreciate bro. 🙇🏾♂️✌🏾🔔🤙🏾
Everybody sooking about how the blades changed... Like it really makes much of a difference... Whilst the most important part is how well the tool works
NO.... it's not just performance it's the availability of the consumables.
@@StormyITO have you tried googling starlock multi tool blades... Your brain might explode tho so be careful
It's the availability of the blades and the cost. I can buy basic no name wood blades off Amazon for about a dollar per blade that work just as well as the 15$ ones they sell at home depot. When you go through a lot of them, they can get pretty expensive
@@carlcox7332 Exactlty I buy cheap blades in bulk off of amazon as them as a consumable.
@@carlcox7332 yea what I'm saying is google starlock blades and you will find them cheap as... Also buying $1 blades no wonder your going through them so fast
Great info and humor, man. I am looking forward to the next generation of these things. Next one will have three colored lights that blink and DeathStarLock.
the light-test, 51... i love that kind of humor :)
just bought 51 a few weeks ago, sadly too late for return. still, i waited years for a brushless makita 18v multitool (i am in the 18v battery ecosystem). thanks for the review!
oh, and i am very happy, that i bought blades that are both OIS and Starlock (Bosch blade set), so no replacement needed for now.
Just pulled the trigger on the dtw52zx1 kit today. Blown away with it so far. Just the vibration alone makes it an upgrade over my Fein.
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Thanks for the review mate - saved me some money 🙏🏿
Hey! I'm a 5% apparently. Lol
Sure are Helena! And you've been watching longer than most. Always good to have you here.
Your a minority. 🤛😁
@@stickjr.3715 You're
One of the most versatile and handy tool purchases I've ever made. I've got so many blades that I will wait on buying this new one. I'll keep my 51 for awhile longer.
Oath mate, same here
Excelente explicação, parabéns 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Got one today, and can't belive how quiet it is,
6% now - I have just subscribed xxx. I am in the UK .....so I will no doubt miss out on the blade too!!
The dewalt one has a better blade change, we use makita dewalt as well as Milwaukee, but by far we reach for the dewalt it has a handle more comfortable than the rest
I love my DeWalt one. My boss has the millwaukee, which does have more power but he's burned up 2 of them this past year. I'm still on the same DeWalt that I bought. I also like the variable trigger much better and the ability to sit it upright on the battery. I hate hate hate the way millwaukee slants their battery which makes it awkward to sit down sometimes when your working in a tight spot
Have you used this model makita or the older one?
Yeah 100 percent the dewalt one has the best ergonomics and the blasé change is a breeze
great comparison vid man!
I had to do some deep research on the whole Starlock thing. What's the difference between Starlock and Starlock plus/max? so it has to do with size/length/thickness of the blades. the plus/max are bigger, longer, and thicker, and theoretically they would place too much load on the lighter multitools that only use regular Starlock. So they changed up the connection point to prevent oopsies from occurring, and burning out your lighter tool. Of course if you pick this tool up it's irrelevant as it takes all 3 blades.
Also apparently the 3d section of the blade puts the load on the heavy metal cylinder of the tool instead of the load being on the blade and the spindle. So safer and stronger, at least in theory. I say theory since I haven't personally tested it, just looked stuff up. But I love the feel and comfort of my new Makita MT. I agree with your recommendation. If you've already invested a ton in another tool, especially one with OIS blades (or Dewalts proprietary stuff), stick with that. If your buying your first one, or looking to upgrade, Id definitely go with the Makita. Starlock seems to be the big one when it comes to compatibility, since most the manufacturers are going in that direction, including Festool. And since Festool does it, it's gotta be good! (jk hehe, but hey Festools are great stuff, just saying).
Great video 💥👌🖐
i know you did this review over 6 months ago but any idea when they bring out a 40v MT ?
I always watch your reviews before i consider buying stuff its a good guideline to give you a rough idea of what you maybe purchasing. Thanks for the review(s).
I'd like to see how this compares to the Milwaukee Fuel multi tool. I'm a Makita guy, but I've been considering getting the Milwaukee and a battery adapter like I did for the framing nailer.
Starlock to O.I.S. adaptor czcams.com/video/uSFSVVjyiPI/video.html
Well, you saved me a few hundred $$$ with your review. The Makita Australia brochure implies that the '52 WILL take the Universal fitting blades as well as Starlock, but now it looks like its the other way round - basic Starlock will fit OIS tools but not vice versa.
I own the 51, comfort of use 3/10...very fat and heavy. Ease / bit changes 9/10..that flip lever is very quick. Torque / toughness 9/10 can't stop it.
when i buy the 52 i will definitely keep the 51 handy for the great assortment of blades/triangle sanding pads and for the easier to use in tight spaces.
I own a couple of the 51s I love them enough to buy multiple of them. If the new one wasn't restricted on what blades you can put in it and didn't cost twice as much, I would consider it because of being quieter.
51 wins for me! Heavy is good for down cuts! 💪
Thank you for the thorough review. I use one of these tools regularly and now a new employee is constantly stealing mine. Time for an upgrade. This model looks like the bees knees.
I have the 50 cause I got a good price and I loves it.
The light though, I found to be shockingly bad give the current state of LED light tech, truly pathetic for all the models. They don't list lumens/lux because it would be embarrassing.
Great review!
Gonna get the DTM52
This is why it's useful to have a backup tool brand. When your favorite tool company releases garbage like this you can grab a better one from another company.
Definitely gonna need all 3 for the job site
I recently purchased the fuel m18 milwaukee woww its just a beast i would say perfect multi tool
Definitely, and it uses the standard buy anywhere blades. Unlike this stupid design, which uses the "try to find them anywhere if you can" blade design. Of all the things to change on a multi tool, the blade fixing it the last thing you'd touch.
Milwaukee seems to excel at this part of their designs. They always look at the most common used fixings and accessories, and then design their tools to accept them. Their M12 mini rotary tool is a great example. It fits 99% of all Dremel accessories, so Milwaukee don't need to make these, as they are already covered.
Love my new makita multitool, almost no vibration!
I need this new Brushless to use as a sander ....get into corners and Skirtings etc👌😉
The majority of my tools are Makita these days. I waited for the longest time for them to come out with a brushless MT to the point that I gave up and went with the Milwaukee 12v; it's pretty great by the way. I don't understand how they are having so much trouble coming up with a multitool that's on par with their other stuff. They keep missing the mark. And why go Starlock! Everyone else has the other style/universal. If you're breaking blade prongs then you're probably using the wrong tool.
Did you go with the brushless M12 or the brushed one? I have an M18, but I wish I got a smaller M12 or something else to give me more control for precision plunge cuts. I agree with everything you said about this Makita starlock. I have Milwaukee M12 and M18 tools as well as Makita 18V tools. I generally prefer Makita because I think they have better ergonomics, which let me get better precision and accuracy with my work, but I think Makita could do a better job with their multi-tools. I want a compact, lightweight and ergonomic OIS multi-tool. I may also check out one of the Milwaukee M12s.
This makes me glad I got the 50, I personally can't see the benefits cost wise, the limiting factor will always be the blades, you hit a nail and it's game over. This literally was just too replace my pad saw.
Well medical cost of using a vibrating tool like the 50 for long term might make you see the benefit. I've heard that people get severe hand problem from using those daily. The 52 is way better in vibrations.
Multi tools bits keep going on sale at my home depot, I'm talking about half price and certain packs, 3 wood blades for 9$ vs 28 $ retail. I buy a lot in bulk when they put them in the clearance, so I think keep using those blade since I have a small stock pile
another awesome video #tools&stuff
Thanks again!
I’m with you, grinder for nails and screws
Dude I just love watching these
Cheers
🤔 I bet the guys and gals at makita shit a brick when they see you put a new makita tool review online.
Can imagine management saying. This is how you sell tools to the masses!! 😂😂
Brilliant video as always mate. I have the latest brushless dewalt one. The blade changes are a dream. Looking forward to seeing a verses video.
Makita and dewalt guy I am.
But I think Milwaukee has the best multi tool right now. Stay lucky dude!🤩
If you think Milwaukee's OMT is the best you haven't used the best on the market.
I'm trying to decide between the wired Makita TM3010 with Makita DTM52, I don't need portability and prefer power and longevity. Do you have a recommendation between these two?
I use the 51 almost daily for cutting and sanding wood and never missed an led light. I usually unplug the leds from all the makita tools i use because they blind me more than they help me xD I like how you can toggle them on and off on the impact drives
Permanent marker works great
Hi mate, like to see your review. can you please review the multi tool for Cerycose Cordless Oscillating brand？
Can’t wait for xgt tools
Wirst cutting joke - I would have been disapointed without it. Good review, just ordered it.
I've had the 51 for about a year and a half and just today it started doing the "switch it on and nothing happens" trick. Guess I need to open it up and clean it. OR, buy the 52! It's not in the US yet, though. So I can order it for a small fortune, or wait, and suffer the part time 51.
Thanks for the video!
Also, why not make this new one and X-Lock? Let me guess... It's coming... Makita with baby steps and making us buy, buy, BUY!
Check your brushes
That is pretty weird, they have completely ignored how starlock works, this must be patent avoidance surely.
I have owned the DTM51 for around 5 years and never noticed it didn’t have a light just got a torch probably my phone light.
I know the Fein is a clip on blade and no pin for Starlock, but Bosch developed it with Fein
Still eagerly waiting for a xgt model
Unexpectedly I saw a vid in the rec)
I am still rocking the original makita one with the allen key. I am in the market for a new one, but with the cost of these blades compared to the blades I can buy for like 3 blades for a single dollar, looks like I won't be upgrade to this newest one any time soon.
You can buy starlock adapter to fit old blades
Another interesting tool review bro! I'm Makita tools mainly. But hated there multi tool so I went with the new Milwaukee M12 anti vib multi tool. It's light and small and very grunty for a 12v tool. Beats my dad's Dewalt 18v. Also it has a magnet to hold the blade on while changing blades. That new makita looks rather clumsy to be honest.
Would love the 152, but more than double the price of the 151 in the UK!
Got one a week or so ago for 150€ in slovakia as mi first multitool and so far i love it. No blade in the box
In the uk they are about €230. Welcome to England
255 dollars. Only the tool, taxes included.
Is black ( not the regular makita color ) No adaptor possible to use the universal blades.
Working time only 20 minutes with a 18 v
5 mah fully charged battery. Not yet a longer time use with a 40v or 60v batteries.
A Nice video
nice review! bummer it only fits those expensive starlock blades...
didnt you sell the blue xgt impact?
Yes. Borrowed one for this test.
sweep is everything with multi tools. My plug in Rockwell goes to 5 degrees and murders 2x4's in seconds. My Makita cordless not so much. But the longer the blade the bigger the swipe and then cuts much faster.
Finally!
Can you purchase an adapter so the DTM 52 can use other types of blades?
I just got the xgt mitre saw and it’s so smooth
40v gang, bought mine 2 days ago and it's sweet
@@mathewlaygo6637 same it arrived yesterday
You the first person to acknowledge that these tools are infact expensive to run.
Plus they are light duty and its only claim to usefulness is to cut perpendicular to a surface and preferably soft wood or simlar otherwise purchase bosch shares before buying all the blades.
Great. I ordered DMT51 several month ago and it was on backorder until last week... And now I find they have DMT52 :D
I have the 51 and its great, the ease of changing the angle of the blade and replacing it easily makes up for no light, plus against the star blades it uses standard blades that are about half the price. With the weight of the battery on one end having a unit that is a bit heavier is a plus because it counteracts the battery weight.
I also have the 51 and, despite the lack of light, will be sticking with it.
is this the same as the "XMT04ZB" in the US? It's all black here which makes it "sub compact" which is their designation for lighter, less powerful tools. Is there a full size we are waiting for?
Yes it is. It is only called "sub compact" in the US, for some bizarre marketing reason. This is the full size version.
Is it actually quieter, or is the pitch different (less annoying)?
Any idea why they removed the urethane cylinders stoppers/bumpers in the battery hatch? All my other Makita tools have them and this tool has empty slots for them, but they aren't there.
Probably because the whole battery mount area has suspension for battery protection.
You can can get Starlock to OIS adapters, but I think you'd need a longer pin to make it work.
Do you have any experience using that?
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I didn't get a blade :(. Paid $240 out the door with our 25% sales tax here in Norway. I also saw that there was some dust extraction solution in the manual. My old 51 model came with a triangle sanding pad and dust extraction solution. New one did not.
Man you are funny 😂😂😂
still nice explanations. 👍
Starlock all the way ! 👌💪💪
I’ve got the DTM51 and it does what it needs to, but it is bulky and heavy. The 52 doesn’t seem much of an upgrade in that regard.
They’re generally not used for extended periods of time so a huge battery shouldn’t be a requirement. Personally I would love to have a small and light multitool with a small battery.
Makita make a 12volt version, under a kilo, not Starlock
I use a 2ah 5 cell battery in mine
It's exactly the king of multitools like makita impact, but unfortunately it doesnt have very quick system changing blades as dewalt has or it requires a unique one
We have several DeWalt multi tools in boxes that are basically unused at work because they require the special blades with open backs, which is a limited selection. DeWalt also doesn't make very good blades in my experience. Says "made in China" on the back.
The performance of this tool and the overall ergonomics seem good. With that said, I think I'm not going to buy it because I already have a lot of OIS blades, and, more importantly, there are a lot of options for getting various kinds of OIS blades for relatively cheap both online and at some discount hardware tools in my area (Chicago, USA). I also don't love the fact that you have to remove the blade retention pin when you load the blades. I guess it's not that big of a deal.
I own a Milwaukee M18 multi-tool. It was the first multi-tool I've ever owned. I don't really love the ergonomics. It's too long, and because the battery is mounted at an angle, you cannot stand it up on the battery. The M18 batteries are a lot bigger and heavier than Makita 18V batteries, which makes the tool heavier and awkward to hold. I only use multi-tools as precision tools. I used one last weekend to cut out a rectangle in a builtin wall cabinet at my mother-in-law's house to install a low-voltage wall plate with an ethernet jack. In these applications, I want my cut lines to be precise and clean. I don't need my multi-tool to be very powerful. I want it to be lightweight and short so I can get a good grip close to the blade and control the cut as much as possible. Since it's really easy to overcut corners with multi-tools, I like to plunge-cut a bit further from the corners and then finish these kinds of cuts in the corners with a thin hand saw. For my wall plate, I used Milwaukee's compact hack saw to cut the last 5mm at the corners, and I was very happy with my results on this little job because my cuts were very precise.
Milwaukee's blade loading system is actually really good. They use a lock lever plus a screw-down pin that doesn't drop out. You just unlock the lever, loosen the screw a bit by hand, pull out the OIS blade if it has an opening on the end, and then reverse. I think it's just as fast as starlock.
But the weight of the M18 tool and the ergonomics during operation aren't great. I want a multi-tool that's lighter and shorter than my M18 with a better grip. I want a brushless motor with some good anti-vibration control to make it easier for me to precisely guide the tool along my cut lines. I think I'll probably just wait for either Milwaukee to release a more-compact M12 brushless multi-tool or maybe for Makita to release an OIS version of this tool with some small improvements.
You can get an adaptor now for this Makita to run OIS blades. I will be doing a review on it shortly. You may also be interested in this Multi-tool comparison czcams.com/video/UEws-gbUUhk/video.html
Is that a rebar tool in the background? Tools is teasing us with the big money makita stuff now!?!?! 🤣 Cheers and as always thank for this review. I will be purchasing this when it comes out in the states. The 03 model kinda sucks.
Yes yes it is
In the States, the model number is XMT04ZB. It does not seem to be available at the moment.
I know of people in states who have it, so it's available in some locations. The model number is XMT04. Z means tool only and B refers to a black model.
Waiting for the 40v version. I invested in the 40v line but all the tools that are coming out are in the 18v line which makes me think I should have gotten the 18v instead...
well the 40V is mainly for more powerful tools, a lot of tools will remain in 18V line, think about get a 18V battery and charger.
Will be lucky to get this in USA in 2025!
Make a review on china multitool version. :)
Sexy tool...BUT....bosch starlock does not have a pin and makes it 1 hand blade change...
i like the way u talk....upfront and farward...👍👍👍
Many thanks, I own the DTM50, great tool, the DTm51 looks awful. wish they made a DTm52 without the starlock..
One thing that I wish I could change is my DTM50, the Allen key drops out of its holder constantly... I may try and fashion a magnet to it someday..
I like the makita 52 but if the blades are going to cost a lot more dewalt would be the answer hey ??
You can now buy an adapter that lets you use the old blades on a starlock tool!!!!!
Review soon...
New makita one looks good, but star lock blade is so expensive. I am gonna keep my second generation makita multi tool.
Any news on a xgt multi tool?
14:10 - to test the different tools against each other, first take out a new mortgage on your house, then cut the tips off the blades that fit the different skins & tig weld on the same blade to each tools blade. Gonna be pricey but it’s the only way I can think of a test with continuity.
I've got a much simpler idea than that... if it works... Still might need the mortgage though.
Can’t wait to see that video! Don’t believe iv seen a multitool comparison vid yet👌🏼
I still perfer Bosch multi tool. Slim enough and great grip. I used to have makita old Multi until I use Bosch one. Multi tool is handy to small area job so the narrow head is very important
I don't get how company's like Milwaukee are capable of using any blade on their multitools with easily used adapters but Makita can't or can't be bothered too. But the Milwaukee fuel m18 is by far the best multitool I've used so far . It has been a while since I've tried any new ones tho
Will they make a 40v version? I am thinking of going into the 40v line since I don't have any but I do want a multitool.
They will make a 40v of just about everything... eventually...
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yes I do know that but have they said anything? Or any mentions of the next set?
Needs a magnet to hold the blade.
The starlock max blades are longer. I’ve got the Bosch 18v which only takes starlock plus and there have been a couple of times when those blades didn’t reach where I wanted to go. Would have bought the Mkaita 52 if it had been out.
I've got it too and have the same problem.
Now that Fein, Festool and Makita all have starlock max cordless tools, I hope Bosch GmbH get their shit together and come out with their own starlock Max cordless. Perhaps with the biturbo motor, that would blow everyone else out of the water. It's not like they couldn't...
Starlock etc was invented because with long blades the pins shear off OIS system.
Question is which blade style is more common? That’s a big factor in which tool to invest in.
It love #Makita®❤️👍
Wow that 51 is even loud on my end. The 52 sounds like a blow dryer.
compare with Milwaukee M18 Fuel 2836 pls
Your best bet on comparing all of the multi tools is the starlock blades. I think the only one it won't fit in is the DeWalt. But the dewalt comes with a little plate and screw that fits in the bottom of the blade holder. Its not ideal and theres no "teeth" to lock the blade in so tighten the hell out of it.
Yeah I have already purchased a bunch of fein starlock blades and checked them on the tools... bloody dewalt.
The DeWalt is good but for heavy use it vibrates way too much. I have the dm51 and it isn't awkward to hold at all like he says, it's comfortable, solid and absorbs so much more vibration than the shitty DeWalt.
after having tried both this model and the milwaukee fuel m18 i will stick to the milwaukee
Although im a makita guy, makita just didnt get them right. I dont like any of their multitools, and i own the dtm51.
@@homemadelemonade976 I own Makita stuff but the milwaukee multitool looked great so i had to buy it and love using it. when this came out it looked better than the other models after having the dtm150 which was very noisy and broke after 6 months. decided to buy this new one out of curiosity but doesnt beat the milwaukee
The models vary by country apparently. My U.S. model of the previous version is XMT03 and came with a universal blade adapter. The extra weight adds precision to cuts when using two hands. I suppose that's a personal preference. I've had nothing but outstanding results and ease of use with mine. It's an absolute beast and built like a tank. All of the blades you said won't fit are easily used with mine.
Can anyone recommend a brand of star lock blades? The Bosch ones are relatively expensive vs their non star lock multi tool blades. Thanks.
I an in UK btw. Just after I bought a Bosch starlpck multitool they brought out a new model which is way quieter, the battery doesn't fet in the way and less hand vibration. 😑
I use these amzn.to/4dRNehb
they are charging £200 for this in the uk, the dtm51z costs £115. A huge price increase and no blade in the box and a poor blade change mechanism compared to the fein. Makita haven't announced a corded version of this so far, i wonder whether they will release one, it would make the rear narrower. The newish milwaukee 18v and 12v have low vibration and a higher ~4.0 degrees cut. Would be great to see a side-by-side comparison of those compared to this new makita to see the noise level and vibration comparison and also cut speed although i'm pretty sure milwaukee will cut faster.
It's literally using a Fein mechanism. There are big cons to the toolless starlock clamping mechanism. It depends on what you use it for, however. I'm happy for toolless starlock when I'm burning through scraper blades. I'm cursing at it when I'm in a cupboard, making a cutout and am fighing with the starlock mechanism while trying to set the right angle.
@@robertrada6040 Exactly. My Fein has the same pin and lever mechanism. And I bought it years ago before multitools were everywhere. It's not a new thing.
I have a shop in back of my house as well. My wife says if i had a bad in my shop they would never seen me😂
dramatic pause after AVT
a little disappointed that it doesn't use the same blade changing mechanism as Bosch.
Your videos are interesting and seem clearly aimed at professionals. Would it be possible to add to your reviews some brief information for the non pros. Such as, this tool is outside of professional use; but will cut and follow guide lines the best. Making it ideal if you are an occasional user who hasn't had hours of use in cutting to a line. I hope you get my somewhat poor explanation. For the record, virtually all my tools are Makita, plus a few Bosch beasts. I made a decision sometime ago given I am always working on or at home is only to buy AC powered tools as batteries make no sense to me. (if we forget convenience) I have an all metal 1950s Skill AC drill that works like a charm. Imagine if it was battery powered... what would be the chance of buying a new battery. 😏
I always struggle to know which way to go with the angle of these videos. I tend to aim them at the regulars that know my style and are interested in tools as much as I am. Occasionally I go the other way and do a video aimed towards newbies. Thanks for the feedback... not that you buy these tools anyway... (smiley winky face thingy)
I would say its pretty decent for newbies and DIY'ers who want to know which tools are the best without spending tons of money (I falll in both groups, channel has helped me a lot ot make purchases here in NZ).
Good thing about batteries is they're basically 18650 or 21700 inside i'm pretty sure so even if its out of production you could open up the battery cases and replace them I believe
Something Tools & Stuff could do is make a clips/shorts channel and do a weekly less than 5min quick tips video something that helps non pros in ways of like using the tools to do things around the house and so maybe.
He could do it on this channel czcams.com/channels/pNH6-O7WOQZ3gV6ygD2UTQ.html
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL he could definitely do that!
I hope they release a non-starlock version of this tool. I like everything but the blade requirement.
It is only a matter of time until generic starlocks start appearing. Once that happens, I'll probably replace mine. Until then, obviously sticking with the old style. I mean really this is a fairly niche tool for me so the couple of complaints the new one fixes aren't that big a deal.