Old time sabre fencing according to Montag - German 19th cent. saber

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • This class by Georg Britzkow was given at the historical fencing gathering "Neujahrsfechten" at ‪@GW-Holten‬ and it was about the sabre or Haurappier of Bernhard Ignaz Montag from 1882.
    Georg has talked about this system in an episode of "Cooler then Hutton" on ‪@russmitchellmovement‬ channel. Now you will see how the movements will look like.
    Montag uses several volts (Volten) and non linear footwork for attack and defense.
    The class focuses on ripostes after a high cut, if you need a more basic introduction have a look at his first class on the event also on this Channel:
    • Sabre basics of Montag...
    If you are interested in learning this style; after learning the Hau= Stoßfechten / cut and thrust fencing after F.C. Christmann at Anno 1838 in Hamburg he joined Hammaborg and teach Montags Neue Fechtschule on a regular base.

Komentáře • 23

  • @Fred-px5xu
    @Fred-px5xu Před 5 měsíci +3

    My dear Sir I enjoyed both the demonstration and lecture from the Master of Arms. It is a wonderful refresher course for an elderly gentleman. I eagerly await your next video lecture.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Hi Fred,
      Glad you enjoied it!
      I like the style of the system as a hybrid of modern and old at that time.
      Thank's to Georg for the possiblity to upload it on my channel, I am also glad to help him to spread his favorite style! Win win 😉

    • @Fred-px5xu
      @Fred-px5xu Před 5 měsíci +4

      I completely agree!

    • @gorg57
      @gorg57 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Many thanks for your kind words, maybe there will be a day or some time, in which I can step by and highjacks Olivers Club for a full grown session of Montag

  • @jf5078
    @jf5078 Před 5 měsíci +3

    German sources seem to vary alot like there is a lot less commonality among the various sources. I barely started looking into German sources like Berliner Turnschule, Montage, Fehn, and the French-pilled German sources like Christmann and Feldmann. Coming from mostly British sources mixed with a little French it's very different.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yes, exactly.
      And don't forget about the later Italien influence 🙃
      But this is what I really liked about sabre in generall.
      There is Longsword and in Germany it's obvious mostly Lichtenauer school and they all fence 'the same'. But s I started sabre there were like four other HEMA clubs around doing sabre which meet at various events and every Club fenced another system. Just awesome 🥰

  • @ralfmathey7959
    @ralfmathey7959 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Wunderbare Techniken, die man aus dem Messer oder - Horror! - aus dem langen Schwert kennt 😅

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  Před 5 měsíci

      Schlimm nicht wahr 🙃
      Und dann nennt er es auch noch "Neue Schule" 😄

    • @gorg57
      @gorg57 Před 5 měsíci

      Ich verrate euch mal ein Geheimnis: Geometrie ändert sich nie 😉

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@gorg57 ... aber Mode und Geschmack, sowohl was Waffen als auch Bewegungästhetik angeht 🙂

    • @gorg57
      @gorg57 Před 5 měsíci

      @@OliverJanseps das stimmt, nur Montag hatte eben zu seiner Zeit eine relativ neue Herangehensweise ans Fechten. Während andere Meister/Lehrer sich auf eine Zusammensetzung diverser Elemente konzentrierten hat Montag einen Bausatz geliefert, Grundsätze definiert (seine Beinarbeit) und der Kreativität des Anwenders freien Lauf gelassen

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@gorg57 du meinst alte 😉
      Zeitgenossen würden sagen, dass er nicht präzise genug ist.
      Ich mein wo kommen wir denn da hin, fechten gehört ordentlich eingepaukt 😎

  • @ortwinvomschildberg4717
    @ortwinvomschildberg4717 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Der Pennywagen hat es ins Video geschafft^^

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Auf jeden Fall, das war der Eyecatcher 😎

    • @gorg57
      @gorg57 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Nicht nur Flachstahltangotänzer sondern auch Pennyfechter