NYC’s Proposal to Extend Manhattan Island
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New York City is considering extending Manhattan island two and a half miles south into the New York Harbor with reclaimed land, forming a new neighborhood called New Mannahatta. Based on the Upper West Side, the new neighborhood would have 178 thousand housing units for 247 thousand people. It would have parks, bike and pedestrian paths and subway line extensions for routes 1 and G, helping integrate it with the rest of the city. It would also be elevated and surrounded with wetlands, helping protect against storm surges. While it would provide more housing supply, protect against climate change and generate massive real estate value, it would cost billions of dollars, take decades to complete and increase traffic in the city.
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4:18-6:20 Benefits
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SO MANHATTAN get a penile implant injection? long island penis is still bigger.
Stupid, just improve public transit, especially trains, so people can commute longer from where they already live, and more people settle down outside the big cities.
Awesome stuff! 😊👍
.............. but I thought the seas were rising and Manhattan island was going to be underwater in ten years. You cannot trust the trillionaire elites and their plans. Its all fear mongering to seize control. The same goes for Miami. They claim it is going to be underwater in ten years and here we are 40 years later and it is not only not underwater but they are planning to turn it into a mega city for the Americas rivaling Shang Hai all while they also claim the seas are rising and we are all doomed and must adopt their authoritarian control over your life.
If such reclamation project ever comes true, it can be called Governors Peninsula in memory of the Governors Island it merges.
As a New Yorker, I like the idea of protection against storms, but new housing units mean nothing if rents remain staggering.
267,000 thousand new units of housing would definitely open up affordable housing options. If they extend Manhattan and also just build more buildings and make them taller in all 5 boroughs there’s no reason why rents will stay sky high, but only time can tell
Where does the water go? Oh yea it floods all the other boroughs that cant be raised up higher as the sea level increases. L af
Why would rents remain staggering? Do you know why things are priced the way they are? If things cost too much it is usually because there is a shortage. There are too many people in the city for the amount of housing. If 2,000 acres were added, it would probably solve the shortage problem.
@@lanxy2398 Thank you! Affordable housing has been an issue ever since NYC became a metropolitan, our great grand children won't live to see it.
Oh yeah. These are housing units for the rich. No question.
Investors would jump on it and hike the prices up all the same. This is the only reason this project would ever be greenlit.
Which is why I think locals would vote it down and have fierce resistance. We can see what these investors are doing to borrklyn and now the Bronx it is pushing more people out.
@@damnimloominyou realize that more housing supply in Manhattan would likely lower prices in the outer boroughs though right?
@@bruhbutwhytho2301 i mean that sounds great until you remember the same group of people set the prices for all of them are are literally leaving a ton of apartments empty right now to inflate the prices, so i am skeptical to say the least.
Rent control is a major part of the problem but New York isn't ready for that conversation.
I find it ridiculous anyone would believe this plan would relieve housing crisis. Those investors would swoop in immediately buying everything
If new Manhatta were to be built, it's not going to be directed to affordable housing deficiencies in the city nor middle class income homes which are desperately needed. It's absurd to think so given the last few expansions in the city. This will be another elite playground like Hudson Yards, the Highline, and Domino Park, etc. etc. Who are we kidding? You'd be delusional to think that, and I say this as an Architect who works in the city. Let's deal with the problems we can currently address within the existing confines. I think we'd be better off than these pipe dreams that only serve the developers and elites.
😂😂😂 no u just like to moan😂
Cities like Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester and Binghamton, each with great architecture, are dying for redevelopment. Filling in rivers to make Manhattan even more congested is nuts.
Unfortunately common sense is no longer available
New York City is the capital of waste *( money laundry services)
Not to mention sea level rise due to climate change.
More people want to live in nyc than upstate
@@bruhbutwhytho2301 don't know why you think that. The population surge is a result of sanctuary city status. People have been moving from cities like LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, and New York to places in Texas, the Midwest, and even Florida. People don't want to live like rats in a cage, nor be stuck on a wheel day in and day out. The people who do can live that way, but do not mistake the current numbers as people wanting to move to New York. Numbers preceding this year- more specifically 2017-2022- indicate a loss in population. Current surge is taking illegal immigrants into consideration, which has conflated the numbers and created a false perception the city is getting a surge of citizens. It is not.
@@JamieGAdaire people are leaving those cities because they are extremely expensive. They are expensive because a lot of people want to live there.
I like the idea, but it would be better to redirect the money into expanding infrastructure instead. Improve the connections to Staten Island and Hudson County, NJ so they're more accessible so people can live further from Manhattan. Build the pedestrian bridge from Manhattan to Jersey City as a start, then build other pedestrian bridges and gondola's across the Hudson for easier access to Manhattan.
Also build a bridge from Long Island to Westchester or something so we can lessen the load of traffic that has to go through the Bronx/NYC so people can just travel from Connecticut to NJ easier, besides I-95
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Why would New York help New Jersey? Every dollar spent on New Jersey is a dollar of loss revenue for New York government.
Your idea is actually good, but in reality New York will never do it.
That's nice thinking, but woah it would be expensive to build bridges over a river as big as the Hudson, especially if they do not have as wide-reaching effects as a car bridge. Don't get me wrong though, I love pedestrian bridges.
More people living in new jersey would lessen the housing crisis in new york while at the same time making commuting into ny for work even nicer, thereby attracting more offices and jobs, creating a cycle.@@faldovifendi6878
I unfortunately can’t see any scenario where NYC would actually build low cost housing. The public sector here can’t get anything done and there’s no money in low cost housing to entice the private sector to bother investing in it
I mean if you cant afford living in one of the most expensive cities in the US, why dont you just move out.
@@AAthlete34 I live just fine I own a home, but we’re bringing it vast numbers of illlegals and as it is the working class can’t afford apartments. The amount of homeless people we have is a huge problem and it’s going to get worse. The city can’t seem to get out of its own way, the amount of red tape there is with construction permits and costs makes low income housing unprofitable for developers and this city blows its budget on other things. Long term it’s not viable for the city to be completely unaffordable for majority of the people who do live here and are forced to rent. You’re seeing the middle class fleeing to Florida, Tennesee, etc and those tax payers are being replaced by people coming here with no work and forced to sleep in front of these hotels. you can’t have just the wealthy and the poor
There are so many rules about residential construction and rentals that it is impossible to build new affordable housing. Change some of those to make it profitable and it could be just like the middle of the country. Not likely to happen, rules increase, which raises prices.
Agreed. There is no direct benefit for those to be built, especially tied into the financial district and below.
Building all luxury housing on it would actually alleviate the housing prices. Some older "luxury" buildings would empty out. The problem is that it still wouldn't be enough to fix the problem of spiraling rents
Empty out and rented right back out
@@Roadrunner0077 rented out for cheaper... supply and demand buddy, increase the supply and prices will fall unless there's price fixing, in which case, enforce regulations against that
Look's like what's happening in Lagos, Nigeria. Lagos is reclaiming and expanding its size through the Eko Atlantic project. It started as a project to protect Lagos islands and Victoria Island in Lagos against flooding and erosion of its coast line from the Atlantic ocean then they went further to reclaim about 25km² of land from the ocean to build a new city on it. The project is still on going and worth talking about.
Netherlands is the best example of reclaiming land like half their country used to be the ocean.
Guess they’re banking on China and the U.S. to solve rising sea levels and changing climate. Really?!
What they are building there is for the super rich so they don't have to look at the poors.
It would take decades for New York State to get this done but the Chinese communist party would have this completed by New Year
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And then the new land would sink into the ocean. 😂
Jokes aside, their are no NIMBYs in the ocean, so they might be okay (same reason offshore wind is easier to build than onshore wind).
Also they could use trash to fill in the reclaimed land, and New York makes loads of trash.
The CCP can build faster because they're an authoritarian government and the build to lower standards than we do here in the US.
regular new year or lunar new year ?
This will not solve the housing shortage problem. Throughout the existing city of New York there are hundreds of thousands of empty properties, belonging to speculators and renters. When the new neighborhood is built, the new homes will certainly end up in the hands of these same guys, who will continue to charge unaffordable prices, making the problem of housing shortages persist.
Absolutely, the problem is greed. There’s many empty apartments already
This looks like pure tone-deaf hubris in action. The rising water level is threatening to put a lot of lower Manhattan underwater in 100 years and now they want to extend the insanely expensive burden of keeping a below sea-level city dry by expanding it even further. Just develop the parts of NY and NJ that look like a post-industrial hellscape. If you want to sink huge sums of money into something: just spend it on high density housing in other parts of the city that are further inland, maybe even Fort Lee in NJ since it's above a cliff.
To be honest, it sounds like an idea some coked-up Wall St guy hatched up while looking out of his office. Just improve what you have.
Agree, but after they get the money from rich folks for this, they can use it to rejuvenate the rest of the city. But you know they never spend money wisely.
Sea levels will only go up a few feet so it’s cheaper to protect the probably hundreds of billions of dollars or more in value on Manhattan than to give it up when you have a solution.
You can fix both what you have and dream about future
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This is an incredibly dumb idea that is only going to punish poor people by making them serve as a barrier to lower Manhattan's elite. Google the NY Bight. It is a geographical region that is highly susceptible to extreme storm surge. Expanding further INTO the Bight would be the most blindsided idiotic thing if it wasn't a move to protect rich assets by making the extension basically a buffer full of sacrificial poor people. As others said this money should be used to BUILD out further into NYC noticably improving the Bronx and upzoning upstate areas. Fighting nature is not wise. This is hubris and corruption.
Climate change is real. It's been happening since the dawn of time. Man-made climate change, however, is a hoax perpetrated by Marxists to take over the world's economies... "you will own nothing and be happy"
Here’s a suggestion: tax unproductive landlords (empty lots, parking lots, needlessly short buildings, buildings with needlessly spacious apartments. You want space? Space is the ultimate luxury here)
3700 US for 2 people in a 500 square meter apartment is just craaazy 💀💀
That's 500 square feet and equates to 46.45 square meters.
If such a southward extension of Manhattan island were developed, would not incoming storm surges simply be forcibly channeled up the Hudson and East Rivers? Wouldn't that additional massive volume of surge waters then flood low lying areas of Upper Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx to a far greater extent than the degree to which they're currently at risk?
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Privatize the wins from increased property values for the rich Mantatta residents and socialize the losses for the middle and lower class tax payers of NY who will have to pay for this boondoggle project. It makes a single tear roll down this proud American's cheek.
Beautiful/Hideous
Look at you! Thinking about easily foreseeable consequences! We can’t have that!
Also you need bedrock and stone for tall buildings and NYC infrastructure.Most land reclaimation only fill with sand
@@KalagenesisThat is why the WTC had to be built in a "bathtub" of bentonite concrete because bedrock is hundreds of feet below the surface. Even in Syracuse, the original Carousel Mall was built over "made land " consisting of multiple layers of marl, solvay and Coal gasification waste and anything else they could find. They never met a "waste they never liked" back in the day. It's about 300 ft to bedrock along the Lakeshore of Onondaga Lake.
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I noticed the editing too as someone who edits quite a bit, but the sound effects felt a bit over edited to me. Still a lot of effort though.
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I was thinking the same thing!
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Your brother could move to Brooklyn, or Queens, and pay significantly less in rent; but that reduces the "Cool" factor of living in Manhattan, so he'll probably continue to pay astronomical rent. Let's face it: he could be paying less for a mortgage somewhere else, and have the benefits of ownership.
As someone who lives on the opposite side of the Hudson River in New Jersey, I'm disappointed that nothing was discussed about what a project would do to the nearby surrounding areas outside of Manhattan
yup, when you raise that land you drive the flooding into hoboken, downtown jersey city, coastal bayonne and weehawken. it porobably would affect red hook brooklyn and staten island . but who cares there's trillions to be made.
Cities in NJ across the river have sewer lines that are 100 years old.
These sewer lines are combined, i.e. there are no separate lines for rain water and waste water.
People in Manhattan live in 21-st century, people in NJ live in the beginning of 20-th century.
When you cross Hudson river, you go 100 years back in time.
They are just gonna make a subway expansion and hopefully house 200,000 people. Thats kinda it.
@@OhhCats hahahahahahaha
oh wait you're serious. let me laugh even harder
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It takes years to complete environmental impact studies for a simple bridge in NYC.
Honestly, before you can even go into the longer-term problems of if it would actually help, funding imo as a nyer is the main problem. As you said, if private companies fund it, they would just create a rich paradise and not help actual nyers, while in no way does ny or NYC have the money to pay for it. Besides, it makes a lot more sense to develop underdeveloped land in and around the city. Its a cool concept, but it will remain like as just that for a long time, maybe ven forever.
the issue is NYC is already developed to the hilt... the only spaces not overdeveloped are the affordable places to live. And you can't pave over the parks. Greenspace is essential and NYC doesn't have enough as it is. What needs to happen is for majority empty buildings to be demolished after their minimal residents are relocated at city expense & the city needs to require development of the property to be mixed use with retail/community space on the bottom, and then at least a 60/40 split of affordable to high end units. They also need to raise the height cap in certain areas of the city. Adding an extra 5 floors onto a 10 floor building will add apartments and won't impact the overall skyline. Set backs also need to be taken advantage of. They don't need to be "patios" no one uses and they shouldn't be private terraces. They need to be community green spaces. Philadelphia has examples of some amazing high rise green spaces for the public. My favorite is a parking garage. The top is a park, complete with native trees.
Yeah, I agree except what you're saying sounds almost like forceful urban renewal. We just need to make sure that the people who are relocated are not forced to, and they are given a good alternative place to live.@@Chaotic_Pixie
@@Chaotic_Pixiei had written a whole paragraph and the video did something and everything was erases... short thing. NYC has a whole shit load of empty apartments and houses... if they would stop renting apartments for 4k for a studio and 1 million for a house there wouldnt be a shortage.
Neen7 is right. There is so much empty and underutilized space in NYC. A ton. And I don’t mean green space.
@scottwooledge6387 if you drive around brooklyn and Queens, you'll see abandoned houses and empty houses, and if you look up at the "new" apartment buildings, they are empty because people can't afford the rent.... put actual affordable limits on how much people can rent stuff for... it bet you see the rental market turn into houses being sold
*I am revising my previous comment after looking at the shape of the proposal - that's not a storm barrier, that's a storm channel straight into Midtown, Brooklyn Queens and the East River Islands.*
You'd need to build barrier islands and wetlands in the Outer Harbor first. They you could put housing on New Manahatta
It takes NY 10 years to repair a one mile stretch of roadway. If this land extension ever go approved, it wouldn’t be finished until the year 2100.
If sea level rise predictions are correct, this proposal is dangerous
I have the same thoughts
obviously they aren't correct
Of course not. The Dutch are reclaiming land already for decades to protect themselves against rising sea levels. around 25% of the Netherlands lays below sea level. Also Japan is reclaiming land for the same purpose. If you want to learn more about this, you can read:
fig.net/resources/proceedings/fig_proceedings/fig2021/papers/ts04.1/TS04.1_okada_10992.pdf
In spite of the recent flooding in NYC I would assume this city would decide to avoid removing the 'area with which the excess water resides'. You need space for water in a world of increasing sea levels, not more spaces to put people.
The north american continent doesnt have more space in land? Why create more space where water is? In a couple years the river will claim what was taken from it.
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Uh...yeah that is what I said....
With all the trouble they went through to refocus attention back to the area near the WTC, I seriously doubt the state would allow any of this to happen. Definitely not any time soon! They want to recoup their funds used on that project first. I can see these proposals actually gaining steam in the next 20-50 years maybe. Lastly, there is NO housing shortage! There are building owners that are holding their properties empty for some sort of tax rebate/write off. There are also other buildings that only provide a small amount of affordable living spaces because the rest are luxury apartments. Buildings that do this only do so for the city and state subsidies they will qualify for upon completion. Things like this create a false sense of a shortage. Basically creating their own demand by withholding the supply.
I wonder how the people in New Mannahatta would feel knowing that place was built to protect the rest of NYC from super storms and hurricanes. It must be a beautiful feeling to know you'll be the one taking the bullet for the team 😂😂😂
I lived 12 years in a Swiss village on the lake, very close to our town beach (Lac Léman/Geneva)
❤🇨🇭🇨🇭 my ground floor apartment was 500 years old 🎉 and the point was reclaimed by dropping quarrystone waste... so steep was our "peninsula" from that reclamation, it was the preferred beach ⛱️ for scuba diving for the "Swiss Bank jet set" who practiced before jetting to Ibiza...
Better build more connections to New Jersey and expand there! There's plenty of useful and cheaper space.
Rent control laws and restrictions have limited housing growth in New York. Simply adding more land isn't going to domuch to solve the affordability problem that exists in NYC. The laws would need to change or be repealed.
Finally a voice of sanity, start by repealing the vacancy and stabiization laws of Facci Bruta Cuomo and big bird Deblasio.
Has there been any real tidal work done on this? At a glance I’m thinking there’s a good chance this would funnel storm surges up the East River…
No, no one else has considered this. Fortunately you thought of it 30 seconds into the video. What will we do without people like you?
Or the end of the newly reclaimed land could form part of a Dyke + storm barrier system across the bay. At some point Manhattan will have a massive flood, the local government will panic and they'll throw up a massive storm defense system.
@@domtweed7323they did have a massive flood hurricane sandy it destroyed brand new infrastructure and they still have not even attempted to address some of the damage still today lol so im going to have to disagree the entirety of lower manhattan could be under water and they would not be able to get anything done lol
@@damnimloomin The solution to that would be to just import an engineering team who knows how to build flood defenses, for example from the dutch or Japanese (though I suspect both Bangladesh and Nigeria will rapidly be developing similar expertise soon).
It'll cost a shit ton of money to import all the expertise and specialist equipment, but if they seriously believe Wall Street is threatened then I have no doubt it'll get done.
Probably true, tides go all the way up the Hudson to what used to be called the Tappan Zee Bridge (Now Cuomo) that's almost up to West Point.
Narrowing of The Hudson River (Actually it's the North River.) Has increased the velocity of the water and increased the scour. This has exposed the tops of the Lincoln Tunnel and Railroad Tunnels. This is not good at all. Further narrowing will only do more damage.
It would be better to extend some subway lines directly into NJ. The 7 line to Secaucus and the A and/or an extension from the 1 to Hackensack.
It is an interesting project, but I am afraid that it will ruin the view of the lower Manhattan.
True
Okay, I'll put a word in. Consider it done gentlemen.
Worried about the view! 😂😂😂
Can barely build a 2 mile subway extension in how many years but they gonna extend one of the most densely packed islands lmao 😂😂😂
Only took a century
As someone who lives in Connecticut, I'd love for this to happen so New Yorkers stop moving into my state and driving up housing costs.
Do you think it is just people moving in making it expensive. And sounds like you already live there ,if you rent I understand your statement but if you own sell and move somewhere else ,take the money and run .But I feel companies buy up housing and it isnthe reason rents are so high as it is a way of providing pension funds for employee or companies profiting.
Those New Yorkers are a huge tax base in Connecticut and south western ct might as well be absorbed into New York state
Heh bow much was the average house umin Connecticut before the invasion of new yorkers? I daresay it wasnt all that cheap befote they all moved there. The whole tri state area is average about 400 to 500 k for what people think is a decent house and then there's property taxes, while they may be cheaper than nyc or long island, many young people still cant afford it.
@@corilia9529 There were some decent homes below 200k for sale before 2020, now thats only run down crack houses in Hartford or Bridgeport. Even decent condos start at 200k now.
That's why they are starting collecting congestion fee, they don't want regular people drive the car to that area.
Providing housing for incomes of 125k-275k & calling it affordable housing ...
That's middle class in NYC
Why is planning always only done for Manhattan when there are 5 burroughs in New York? Good idea but how about climate change planning for other burroughs also.
The sea level is rising, so let's extend the city on the sea, the 50m of horizontal wetland will certainly keep the sea out! Sounds clever.
Its unfortunate that there isn't land anywhere else otherwise a higher ground could be use instead of building on the sea...
Its a great idea.
This area should be called "NEW VENICE"
Super touristic attraction, if the buildings are designed for this.
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Not to mention there is plenty of space in Brooklyn and queens for development. Most of the buildings are low rise. A major zoning change to allow high rises in areas of higher elevation makes a lot more sense.
They should build it to house migrants. And call it Sanctuary City
My concern is that how geologically stable would this area be? Would it be another disaster like the Mission District in San Francisco?
You might mean the Marina District - built on fill that caused major damage to the buildings on it in the Loma Prieta quake.
there are alot pf areas in nyc built like that. think 5 towns and far rockaway
NY isn't near a major fault line like San Francisco is. If an earthquake hits on the east coast, it travels a lot further but is very tame in comparison. We had an earthquake hit a hundred or so miles away and we felt it up in central NJ.... but it was more of a minor shimmy.. and I've lived here for decades.
Putting tons and tons of rich people in new housing stock would alleviate pressure on existing real estate. Brownstone apartments in Brooklyn are being converted into single family homes by rich people because there isn’t new housing stock.
We need to build fancy new housing stock for rich people as well as subsidized units. Otherwise rich people will buy out existing housing stock as long as there’s a housing shortage.
Unused commercial buildings could be changed to residential use if the fire protections were upgraded.
Gardens, shrubs and small trees could be planted every ten floors or so.
The cost of putting all the bathrooms and kitchens onto old office floors would make it so expensive they could only rent for luxury prices.
Sea levels have literally risen millimeters in a century.
I don’t see this being feasible , but it would be insanely cool if it actually was done
Have you seen what China has done. Anything is possible
It should be turned into a park instead of more development.
What they should be doing is connecting SI to the rest of the subway system. A route that goes into Manhattan and one that goes into Brooklyn. Lot of undeveloped land out there and it's kinda ludicrus it's one of the boroughs but is cut off from the rest of the city transit wise
Yeah because all anyone wants to do is be connected to Staten Island.
This is great idea I remember reading about how New York had the oldest buildings it a be cool to see new buildings and ideas
I think all coastlines should be expanded all the way to Europe and Asia. Why not?
Excellent point!
Because the oceans are necessary for the earth to function properly.
You're kidding, right?
It would make traveling by car to Europe easier.
Is the new land necessary? There are still enough room to develop in the Bronx and Queens.
Hmmm. Instead of extended Manhattan, why don't they just put a roof over Brooklyn and make it a double decker borough. Imagine how much cooler Bushwick would be if it had a second floor!
Estimated completion: 200 years from now
Price tag: $100 trillion 😂
MAYBE 200 hundred years. Anyone who has an argument, look up the 2nd Avenue line, the train that never gets completed
They should probably build more tall buildings
As someone who doesn’t live in NYC and wont be directly affected by this at all. I think it’s cool and that they should do it
Its all about money. I wonder who will own the land at first
@@SpaceRanger187 probably the investors who put the money up
Well, the title of your video is wrong. It isn't a proposal brought forward by NYC. It was a conceptual plan by a professor from a college in NJ. Not once did you tackle the subject of how NYC's government responded to Jason Barr's idea.
Good video, man.
That new neighborhood will be just as exciting to live in as Hudson Yards (aka not exciting) or FiDi (aka not exciting) … we’d be better off FIXING THE SUBWAY so people could live in not-manhattan and actually get decent subway service .. I thought Manhattan was going to add a green beard of wetland to prevent storm surges, not landfill new neighborhood that no New Yorker will want to live in..?
I love this idea but I recently read that NYC is sinking due to too many Skyscrapers. I hope they can figure it out and prevent NYC from sinking. It would crazy to expand the city only for it to sink.
The only parts of NYC that are experiencing any subsidence are the parts built on the 1800s landfill. The main island is a rock (schist) that's not going anywhere. It's geology is what gave rise to the first skyscrapers.
@@tomindenver1331 Hope you're right because I was reading that NYC is sinking at a rate of 1 to 4 millimeters per year. You can look it up.
the Dutch legacy of reclaiming land lives on in NYC
Where would the displaced water go? Some where else would have to rise or be dredged out to compensate. And it’s not as if we don’t already have seas rising already.
This would easily cost a trillion dollars and wouldn’t be finished until 2100
thats cute since the second ave train has under a project for almost 100 years now. But sure, this will happen by 2100. lol. also, noboby in NYC is pushing for this. This was some design by some random dude.
Remember their plans for Hudson yards? LMFAO yeah, I don't take any of their proposals seriously there. They rarely follow through.
There's a massive flaw in the housing increase computation, people who work in Manhattan live in all 5 boroughs, CT and NJ. 15% of Manahattan housing is a drop in the ocean compared to overall housing needs of people who work on Manhattan.
It is insane that so much money is spent on downtown Manhattan, while the rest of the boroughs and infrastructure across those is ignored...
Oculus costed the city 2bil dollars. To you know, pave it with Italian marble. Does a subway station really need all that marble? Eso considering that it is all stained and dirty now. How many housing units can be built with that money?..
"Environmentally Friendly NYC"💀
Imperial units, gosh. Futurology please adapt to outside the U.S. viewers
I don’t think the Americans use metric though, so would any of New York’s plans be in metric?
@@480darkshadow I think the comment above has something to do with the VIDEO rather than the project, the creator couldve added unit conversions in the video for non-US viewers
By making a great wall like glass aquarium park with Multi layers surrounding Manahatta would increase beauty, recognize Marian life and protect future citizens from flooding as well
Untill a car hits it or a rock
@@jediknight73 only AI driven Vehicles would operate or subway line with moving walkway like in airport and the idea is similar to NEOM but in circular perimeter of mana hatta
I can't wait!
I think they’d extend at least another north south subway line south with the 1.
They’d also have to probably reroute the SI Ferry to Brooklyn during construction and eventually plan to build a subway connection from St George terminal to Brooklyn.
Never happen.
178000*how many flats are in one skyscraper* 60 million per flat...
There goes the Staten Island Ferry, and the Whitehall Terminal.
It's not all about length guys.
It's about how you *use* it.
Or so I've heard...
I'm surprised that u didn't talk about people leaving NYC recently as 1 of the problems. While yes there is a housing shortage, people are also leaving due to increase rent. If lots of people are leaving the area, there's not really a demand to make more land for more housing. Possibly make it a tourist destination? NYC already is. It already has its gimmic, don't ruin it.
People are leaving because they can't afford the rent. Build it, fill it with exclusively dense affordable housing, and it would immediately fill up with young people who'd put new life into the city
@@domtweed7323but we all know that wont happen… the prices would remain the exact same and the new housing would be likely be even more expensive
@@6z0you only think like that because nyc has failed to build enough housing for decades.
i don’t understand this. they could build two direct express lines from staten island to lower manhattan and midtown, and change zoning laws to allow high-rises throughout most of the borough. after that i’m sure there’d be a speculative development frenzy and wow look at that thousands of new apartments.
I think some of your criticisms at the end are a little unfounded. More people does not, necessarily, equal more traffic. In fact the way the extension was presented as having access to public transit, bike paths, and walkable neighborhoods means that it would likely have little impact on traffic, if not reduce it. It is also impractical to say that all of the housing on the extension would be affordable to all, and although I agree that there should be affordable housing, all housing built including luxury high rises will serve to increase supply and therefore decrease costs.
Think of how much of the funding would vanish into politician's pockets. The graft and corruption on a project of this scale would be huge !
As someone who moved from nj to fl, a place called Cape Coral. Cape Coral was drained and dug out which was an ecological disaster on many fronts and now we are doing in to NYC? Let alone the disaster that hurricane Ian did to the area. The changed the flood zones after Ian to include ALL of cape coral so now its all a flood zone. It's not a safe place or a good idea for the ecosystem although NYC is hit a lot less by hurricanes.
2:37 Native Americans are not considered "indigenous" as they immigrated to America from northern Asia through a land bridge that connected what is today known as Alaska, to Siberia.
So this won’t get built. It’s almost universally understood at this point. Why this channel is choosing to make this a video so far after the fact can only be for clickbait. There is no point in discussing it further, it was already voted down.
If Manhattan has a housing shortage from all the people who live there from all the new jobs, why did Manhattan loose one congressional seat last year? That is always from a loss of population.
That was a result of all the people leaving NYC during covid.
Yes that occurred during Covid - but a ton of people have now come back/moved in
It always amazes me that growth is the only answer and it is the sad reality that development doesn’t care about the changes they are willing to do to achieve it.They are quite willing to destroy the river channel system to extend an island where nobody can afford to live anymore.
I am not sure, if you portrayed the risks correctly. Rerouting so much water and adding so much land could drastically change the micro clima and cause other problems, not only for wildlife, but also for humans. Have the architects considered that?
Just imagine the entire east river being filled. Now Manhattan is no longer an island. An artificial river being carved straight through Queens and Brooklyn? Just entirely disrupting the many tunnels, as well as the J/Z line. New York City as it is, is what makes NYC, NYC. Let’s keep it that way.
As an Upstate New York, I do like the idea of Manhattan expansion to have not just more housing but also prevent flooding disaster, also Dude, you wanna know what would fix car traffic, give it everyone viable alternatives to driving, give most people transit rather than driving, and also make New Manhattana car- free place from the start, not just people like that idea, but also LESS Roads, LESS people on cars, and more transportation.
Dude, just a mere 13,000 years ago, the beach was about 100 miles south east of the southern tip of Manhattan!!! Just search the "Great Flood of New York" by the Woods Hole Institute!!
Ice Ages are Climate Change!!
They can't even fix the subway, how they ever supposed to find money to pull this off...
Great video
I wish you would move a bit slower so I can absorb these interesting facts and graphics
Now I gotta know more about the Wall st wall
Yeah, no, don't see this happening in the real world. New York more likely to be sold back to Netherlands than this being enacted.
Those transition effects are really annoying…
Bad idea, sorry. The city is more than just Manhattan. 1. The New York Harbor is a very real waterway. 2. There is so much land that can be upzoned in the outer boroughs which could lead to more affordable housing. 3. No way on Earth, that new development will generate enough affordable housing. 4. Housing for a Mega Region cannot be on NYC's shoulders alone, the suburbs will need to add housing.
I suspect this might interfer with flow through the East River.
Does this mean the relocation of the Statue of Liberty or will it be like a park in the middle of the city.
Seems like it would be much easier to add acreage by just building higher.
True, lots of high land with rocky base in northern Manhattan, they don't call it Washington Heights for nothing.
But they tell us the sea level is rising. Why would anyone do this if that were true?
Fry from Futurama: nobody drove in New York there was too much traffic.
So let me get this straight 🤔🤔 They can't fix and upgrade the decapitating BQE and they want to extend Manhattan? Sure thing dude. 🤞
No one say's "Manhattan Island," it's just "Manhattan."
Yeah, can you imagine the traffic through the Holland Tunnel with that? Just, no.
It took the city government about 6 years and half a billion dollars to make a 8 block bike path on the East river from E54 street to E61 Street. And that thing is only about 30 feet wide.
This is never gonna happen.