Neil Oatley remembers the MP4-4 - one of the most dominant F1 cars of all time. The machine behind Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost in their legendary 1988 season.
@@costalepas7192 They never forget him. Count how many fanboys feel the need to shout their wish, while Prost admirers are well behaved and know the record perfectly well.
Yeah but F1 is still primarily funded by Automotive OEMs. They want a platform to showcase current technology. When you write the checks, you get what you want.
Thanks Mclaren for all the great things To all involved to THe Great Kiwi NZL B.Mclaren Who made it all To bring out the best in 2 Of the best drivers of the century and Possible history!
Wow.... breathless..... I feel absolutely lucky to have been able to see Ayrton compete and win in Interlagos until 1994... Winning Brazilian GP in 1993 with that McLaren was magical, impressing, something that only him could achieve... I can recall all the moments from that race, but specially one... when first raindrops started to fall, all the crowd was yelling, as if it was a goal scored in a football match.. we all knew that he would win that one in rainy conditions... history...
Diese Ära war noch ausgewogen ! Die Cars hatten die richtige Form und Größe, den Driver konnte man noch sehen ! ! ! Und es wurde noch ganz klassisch geschaltet . . . Sehr filigran und schön ! Und damals gab es noch keine "Einheits-Formen" . . .
Man, actually i see me thinking in Senna alive today, old and fat, talking about his time driving cars. Man, i almost cry when i think this genius died 17 years ago. A genius, Idol, Master ... an exemple. I can't resist this missing felling .... !! Senna, you are the greatest driver that ever lived. You got, you have made your dreamming true. Congratulations, my friend. I'll never forget you, and mi children will know your feats. Thank you for your exemple, for your life.
why are people complaining about V6 engines next season when this they will be roughly the same as this car and they will be turbo powered as well. it will still be as exciting
Prost is the original McLaren driver, of course. He won three titles with them (should have been 5 actually), and was forced to quit his family, not out of choice like Senna did, but out of necessity. Senna was a Honda driver.
In my opinion the was a gap to go for at that corner, but at idiot risk aswell. Senna got the car at a point where Prost had to decide between letting him through or take both cars of the track. He gambled, as said before, on the fact that Prost normally would back off. The thing is that it was the worst time/place to make that bet, after all, it was a low speed corner and the professor had nothing to lose by closing the door and taking both of the race. I wouldn't let him trough in Prost's place aswell, hahaha!
@KINGOSWALD It's getting there. 2014 and they will all be driving turbocharged V6s with ever lowered downforce. I'm not that hostile to this new engine change. More like curious about it.
It was a great car....but that season was more about having Senna v Prost as drivers , which I think is the biggest factor....they probably flattered the car
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Não pode haver mais marketing de cigarro e bebidas na F1. Ainda assim é impossivel não lembrar da Marlboro ao ver esse carro.
I know smoking cigarettes is not popular for many years now, but what's next? Are you gonna repaint the car that looks, well oh, like a pack of MARLBORO!?
Cadê os logos da Marlboro? Sinceramente,,,, Tirem o vermelho também! os logos da Honda e Shell. Deixem tudo branco assim como fizeram em Portugal 1993 quando testaram os Lamborghini V-12. O que seriam dos 3 títulos de Senna sem o conjunto Honda Marlboro Shell?
Yet drivers spent most of their time managing boost pressure and fuel consumption to get to the end of the race, if we had it today there'd be an outcry about drivers not going flat out.
I have no clue. I reckon it's because folk just want something to complain about - same thing with tyres; first they're too durable, then not durable enough, then too durable, and the Pirelli people must feel like human yo-yo's trying to keep up. But ultimately, the teams will still crank out at least the same amount of power as the 2013 spec engines, probably use a thimbleful less fuel so fuel-saving objectives achieved, I guess, and Vettel will still win it all. The more things change...
GT Speedster you have to make your mind on something: at first you point the fact that Prost outscored Senna and only lost because of the "rules" backthen, and right before you claim that Senna was fairly punished for cutting the chicane because of the "rules" backthen (which has been done before by many drivers without any further consideration, but that's not the point here). So, strangely, when it suited Prost, the rule was there to be followed, when it didn't it sucked. Any conflict in there...?
Mclaren i I know it's pc not to display cigarette ads but why are you blurring away all of the old picture strikes me as abit hypocritical since without Marlboro the team and f1 would have been nothing that is today
its not visible at all for anyone? you can catchall the images, from all drivers, from all laps, from all races of the history, and u never will see some1 doing that corner so ealier like prost made! , it was obvious he take the car on Senna...
sorry but as i remember he got the JPS Lotus to race winning posistion even though it was a midfield car. of cource he didnt win the championship but other names would not of in a subpar car for example Schumacher, Prost, Alonso, Vettel, Hakkenin ect
Yeah... and a lot of drivers already cuted the chicane , and never get punished like this... (like Ron Dennis said). And its visible even for a blind person that prost forced the car on Senna much before the normal, and nothing happend to him... :D so, u rly think its right?
in 1989 his car broke a lot of times, and anyway he had more victories than Prost, and even J m Ballestre sayd years after that he favoreced Prost at this year ( make a research if you want ) , and w/o the shiit the Ballestre made at Japan, Senna would be the world champion, you can be sure of that. and in 1990 senna had a far superior car? so u means that Prost w/o a good car is a shiit right? and btw, if was on nowdays, Prost would be punished for what he made in suzuka 1988.
@NOXXism LMAO how old are you, and what's with the aggressive attitude? Beauty is subjective, I try to make it objective by reasoning it the following way: performance = beauty. So car nowadays are more beautiful because when I look at the old cars, all I see is room for improvement.
That Wet race with torro rosso was good but then again how many monaco GP's did Senna win in the Lotus, i am wrong about Hakkinen, and Alonso does have Ability everyone knows that but did he win races in his Minardi? hes strugiling to win in his fucking ferrari! Kimi will make a fool of him next year! in one of your other fucked up comments you admitted that prost would of won in the ferrari which was on equal terms if not faster than the mclaren.
so make a "research" on web like u have sayd before, and u will check that. and oh , Prost take the car on Senna , leaved race like a looser , Senna back to the race, won the race , and get punished by a such thing...
Senna was wrong at 1989 , and what happend in 89 was Senna fault, Senna wanted make this... nobody can say the oposite, but he just made this, cuz of 1988. in 88 , Prost fault , in 89 , Senna fault. Just simply.
the best car ever...............with the best driver ever...............DREAM.
If your referring to Senna, than yes
Jim Clark never drove this car, he wasn't alive to try it...
Idiots will always forget Prost
@@costalepas7192 They never forget him. Count how many fanboys feel the need to shout their wish, while Prost admirers are well behaved and know the record perfectly well.
Yes, MP4/4 and Alain Prost.
Manual, turbo and far less reliant on aero. Exactly what modern F1 needs !!
Yeah but F1 is still primarily funded by Automotive OEMs. They want a platform to showcase current technology. When you write the checks, you get what you want.
Honda need to build a new NSX, Senna special edition.
I love the low pitch sound of these V6 Turbo.
The Best! Senna forever .....
I love is car my favorite formula one of history
Thanks Mclaren for all the great things To all involved to THe Great Kiwi NZL B.Mclaren Who made it all To bring out the best in 2 Of the best drivers of the century and Possible history!
pure Power ! ! ! we need this time back !
Car of a lifetime.
One of the BEST supercars ever made.
Wow.... breathless.....
I feel absolutely lucky to have been able to see Ayrton compete and win in Interlagos until 1994...
Winning Brazilian GP in 1993 with that McLaren was magical, impressing, something that only him could achieve...
I can recall all the moments from that race, but specially one... when first raindrops started to fall, all the crowd was yelling, as if it was a goal scored in a football match.. we all knew that he would win that one in rainy conditions... history...
A friendly reminder: Prost is the victory record holder in Brazil with 6 wins. No other driver ever won as many Brazilian GP.
Senna - Forever the Best!
Not the same without Marlboro sponsers... :(
So lucky to be there. Legend.
this is not a car...it's a monster = )
I'll never forget the sound of this engine.
Diese Ära war noch ausgewogen ! Die Cars hatten die richtige Form und Größe, den Driver konnte man noch sehen ! ! ! Und es wurde noch ganz klassisch geschaltet . . . Sehr filigran und schön ! Und damals gab es noch keine "Einheits-Formen" . . .
Legend-ary!
Man, actually i see me thinking in Senna alive today, old and fat, talking about his time driving cars. Man, i almost cry when i think this genius died 17 years ago. A genius, Idol, Master ... an exemple. I can't resist this missing felling .... !!
Senna, you are the greatest driver that ever lived. You got, you have made your dreamming true. Congratulations, my friend. I'll never forget you, and mi children will know your feats. Thank you for your exemple, for your life.
Saw that car and the MP4/23 in Knightsbridge the other day.
and won from one of the best drivers ever, that had the best car too... Alain Prost.
Let me give you a like.
Indeed! Fanboys be like: NOOOOOOO !!! NOOO !!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣
Nsx r gearknob almost identical to the mp4/4 . AWESOME!
why are people complaining about V6 engines next season when this they will be roughly the same as this car and they will be turbo powered as well. it will still be as exciting
Probably because he realizes that he's sitting in the automotive equivalent of the Ark of the Covenant.
Not sure why everyone is whining about V6 turbos this season. If it was good enough for Senna, its good enough for me.
RIP Senna
SENNA BOSS
I just think the same!
O xodó da Mclaren!
Why doesn't anyone remember this car being driven by Alain Prost too? This car was made dominant by both the drivers.
Prost is the original McLaren driver, of course. He won three titles with them (should have been 5 actually), and was forced to quit his family, not out of choice like Senna did, but out of necessity.
Senna was a Honda driver.
@rafa281 Amen ....... !
In my opinion the was a gap to go for at that corner, but at idiot risk aswell. Senna got the car at a point where Prost had to decide between letting him through or take both cars of the track. He gambled, as said before, on the fact that Prost normally would back off. The thing is that it was the worst time/place to make that bet, after all, it was a low speed corner and the professor had nothing to lose by closing the door and taking both of the race. I wouldn't let him trough in Prost's place aswell, hahaha!
MCLAREN, Y U NO UPLOAD IN 1080p?!
@KINGOSWALD It's getting there. 2014 and they will all be driving turbocharged V6s with ever lowered downforce. I'm not that hostile to this new engine change. More like curious about it.
MP4-4
@hvf26
Because racecar video!
It was a great car....but that season was more about having Senna v Prost as drivers , which I think is the biggest factor....they probably flattered the car
Não pode haver mais marketing de cigarro e bebidas na F1. Ainda assim é impossivel não lembrar da Marlboro ao ver esse carro.
@hvf26
They need to cut costs.... ;-)
It has 900BHP as default. With Boost it is able to develop 1200BHP.
Honda v6 turbo. The last turbo
Turbo Mclaren Honda coming back in 2015!!!
I know smoking cigarettes is not popular for many years now, but what's next?
Are you gonna repaint the car that looks, well oh, like a pack of MARLBORO!?
@Acruz9301 cause you dont see four wheel overtaking drifts with heaps of aero , less awesome ya kno
to watch old f1 races go to classicgrandprixclub
Cadê os logos da Marlboro? Sinceramente,,,, Tirem o vermelho também! os logos da Honda e Shell. Deixem tudo branco assim como fizeram em Portugal 1993 quando testaram os Lamborghini V-12. O que seriam dos 3 títulos de Senna sem o conjunto Honda Marlboro Shell?
Yet drivers spent most of their time managing boost pressure and fuel consumption to get to the end of the race, if we had it today there'd be an outcry about drivers not going flat out.
I have no clue. I reckon it's because folk just want something to complain about - same thing with tyres; first they're too durable, then not durable enough, then too durable, and the Pirelli people must feel like human yo-yo's trying to keep up.
But ultimately, the teams will still crank out at least the same amount of power as the 2013 spec engines, probably use a thimbleful less fuel so fuel-saving objectives achieved, I guess, and Vettel will still win it all.
The more things change...
All I want them is to bring back a normal steering wheel. That would be enough for me.
GT Speedster you have to make your mind on something: at first you point the fact that Prost outscored Senna and only lost because of the "rules" backthen, and right before you claim that Senna was fairly punished for cutting the chicane because of the "rules" backthen (which has been done before by many drivers without any further consideration, but that's not the point here). So, strangely, when it suited Prost, the rule was there to be followed, when it didn't it sucked. Any conflict in there...?
Mclaren i I know it's pc not to display cigarette ads but why are you blurring away all of the old picture strikes me as abit hypocritical since without Marlboro the team and f1 would have been nothing that is today
Why does Lewis say My God at 03:13m?
V6 turbo
its not visible at all for anyone? you can catchall the images, from all drivers, from all laps, from all races of the history, and u never will see some1 doing that corner so ealier like prost made! , it was obvious he take the car on Senna...
sorry but as i remember he got the JPS Lotus to race winning posistion even though it was a midfield car. of cource he didnt win the championship but other names would not of in a subpar car
for example Schumacher, Prost, Alonso, Vettel, Hakkenin ect
Hell yeah.. but not in a such of power.. 1200BHP is too much for nowadays drivers..
Yeah... and a lot of drivers already cuted the chicane , and never get punished like this... (like Ron Dennis said).
And its visible even for a blind person that prost forced the car on Senna much before the normal, and nothing happend to him... :D
so, u rly think its right?
so is this formula 1 car faster then lets say today's F1 cars? or is was only faster at acceleration and straight line?
360 p are you serious
Porn music in the background.....me gusta.
Really?Let's not all get stuck back in the 80s.
Becuz of the Manual Shifting?
now they don't use it anymore but a stupid semi-auto shifting gearbox!
in 1989 his car broke a lot of times, and anyway he had more victories than Prost, and even J m Ballestre sayd years after that he favoreced Prost at this year ( make a research if you want ) , and w/o the shiit the Ballestre made at Japan, Senna would be the world champion, you can be sure of that.
and in 1990 senna had a far superior car? so u means that Prost w/o a good car is a shiit right?
and btw, if was on nowdays, Prost would be punished for what he made in suzuka 1988.
@NOXXism
LMAO how old are you, and what's with the aggressive attitude? Beauty is subjective, I try to make it objective by reasoning it the following way: performance = beauty. So car nowadays are more beautiful because when I look at the old cars, all I see is room for improvement.
ah ok , now if any driver from world take the car on some1 that is trying to overtake him, it will be ok and fair... keep with ur dreams.
Of course, a dislike. WTF
That Wet race with torro rosso was good but then again how many monaco GP's did Senna win in the Lotus, i am wrong about Hakkinen, and Alonso does have Ability everyone knows that but did he win races in his Minardi? hes strugiling to win in his fucking ferrari! Kimi will make a fool of him next year! in one of your other fucked up comments you admitted that prost would of won in the ferrari which was on equal terms if not faster than the mclaren.
so make a "research" on web like u have sayd before, and u will check that.
and oh , Prost take the car on Senna , leaved race like a looser , Senna back to the race, won the race , and get punished by a such thing...
Where are the Marlboro logos? McLaren trying to re-write history? They got you to where you are. Trying to be PC after the fact is lame.
Senna was wrong at 1989 , and what happend in 89 was Senna fault, Senna wanted make this... nobody can say the oposite, but he just made this, cuz of 1988.
in 88 , Prost fault , in 89 , Senna fault.
Just simply.