Facts vs Biblical Facts?
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- Ryan in KY believes that something does not have to be a scientific fact for it to be a fact and that the Bible is perfect with no things that are untrue.
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Host: “What’s on your mind?”
Caller: “Not much”
Everyone: “No shit…”
I thought that very thing!😂😂😂😅😅
"What's on your mind?" Theist: "nothing much." Sounds accurate.
By this logic, Harry Potter is also perfect and all true.
Wingardium Leviosa
Aluhut hackbar
@@heinshaaine8153 inshallah
@@undrwatropium3724 Yeah Insulininhaler
Harry Potter is true. I have the books. The original 1st editions too! That's obviously proof it's true. 😂
Faith: A piss poor substitute for thinking.
😅😂😊
The devil made me do it 😂
It’s not you thinking. We don’t think…we experience thought.
@mr.c2485 ok...Where do our thoughts come from? Kind of a chicken and egg scenario?
@@knowme4iam326 take a college course in brain development.
"can you give us evidence?"
"Yeah, I know I need to give evidence but [two minutes of gobbledygook]"
The Bible is perfect.
Perfect campfire starter.
Perfect tp substitute if you're out.
Perfect dumpster filler (I worked at a hotel owned by an angry Hindu man, local churches dropped off boxes of bibles every week, we chucked cases of them. Great fun.)
You can roll a joint with the thin paged ones in a punch. Also jehocah will give you them for free.. then glue the pages together and yse a router to clear the insides out.. now you have a stash book to put things in
bird cage liner
Wow, that caller was all over the place: the entire Bible must be true, but its open to interpretation, for which there MUST be only one "true" method of interpretation, but its not all historically or scientifically true, but it is.... sort of ... 🤔🤨😵💫🤣
EXACTLY 35,000 different PROTESTANT variants alone.. each with their own anchor bible and each year they pump out their own study bibles.. why? They're not elucidating "scripture". They're redefining the Denominational Doctrine/Variant... they have to, especially among Evangelicals when each decade renders the "conclusions" and "prophecies" totally bunk (Hal Lindsey, anyone?).
Caller admits his ignorance, then tries to use it as evidence for his faith.
Well... it's pretty much the same thing. I don't know s#!t, therefore I have faith.
So he basically said that there's facts, but then there's also alternative facts that are opposite to the original fact, but it is still a fact even though it's contrary to the original fact, and that's okay as long as it makes you feel good. Got it.
Christy: I'll be an atheist when I do the later show. Today, I'm a heathen. 😂
Christy nailing an absolute 10 on the landing.
AND HIS WORD SALAD IS KILL ME NOW BORING!
@@blackkman1324irony
a proponent of interpretation which means his holy book could mean anything on any topic which is quite convenient for a flexible definition of truth as well. that means they can get away with anything and avoid any blame or criticism since no hard stance is adopted. the catholic church needs that due to its criminal behaviour.
How many times has the Bible been altered?
Over 30,000 changes were made, of which more than 5,000 represent differences between the Greek text used for the Revised Version and that used as the basis of the King James Version. Most of the other changes were made in the interest of consistency or modernization.
When you listen to all these callers. You notice how most of them are interpreting their faith differently and so much so that it PROVES faith is not evidence nor fact.
And most have not read the bible in full they cherry pick
Produce the umpire. That's all atheists want.
The invisible umpire works in mysterious ways. 🤣
It is objectively demostrable that your God & Bible AREN'T perfect.
How many times has the Bible been altered?
Over 30,000 changes were made, of which more than 5,000 represent differences between the Greek text used for the Revised Version and that used as the basis of the King James Version. Most of the other changes were made in the interest of consistency or modernization.
Also, King James I of England (1566 - 1625)
Young as “the most prominent homosexual figure in the early modern period.” Married to Anne of Denmark, James is thought to have had relationships with several male courtiers - most notably, George Villiers, whom he made the Earl and later the Duke of Buckingham.
John Mill found out the hard way pointing that out in the 18th century.
I admit it . . . The main reason I watched this video from start to finish was to feed my eyes some candy with that Christy dude! Good message but fantastic visuals!!!!!
"What's on your mind?"
"Nothin much"
😂
Contrary to popular belief, imagination is not more important than knowledge.
Not if you're writing fiction it isn't
“For every answer that I give” dude has literally not give. One answer.
I think Ryan just argued that if Ryan's interpretation is true, then Ryan's interpretation is true... ..
'What's on your mind?'
'My what?'
With this logic, all fiction is true. That means good things like Dragon Ball and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy are real but also bad things like Twilight and The Backrooms are real.
By that argument Ryan every book is true lol.
I like how the concepts of knowledge and truth can be either as hard as steel, or as soft as tapioca, and this changes on a sentence-by-sentence basis, depending on the momentary needs of the caller's agenda.
@@Kometheus
Hard or soft?😅😊
Christy words things very well. Great host
It's so amazing how they can't follow or make sense. It all seems to be morphing all over for them. It must be so hard (impossible) to integrate their magic beliefs with the reality they know exists.
Seems exhausting to keep having to make up your reality based on what you know is true and other things you want to he true but which don't connect.
Reality that they know is true??? These silly superstitious cavepeople live in a fantasy world 24/7. Their reality is an invisible skydaddy obsessed with their sex lives who refuses to show itself and demons behind every tree.
Right, having to keep shifting the goalposts, and integrating truths into your magic beliefs in your sky daddy. It has to be exhausting.
They asked him, "What's on your mind?" Anf he answered, "Not much." That was telling.
“How does any of this resolve anything going on NOW?!?” Bring back after school specials!
I like Paulogia's definition of truth: "Truth is that which comports with reality, as adjudicated by predictive power."
Can’t tell, under the passive aggressive smugness, if he’s ignorant or if he’s lying.
Yeah.. he sounds like a Ben Shapiro knock off. Talk fast, use a lot of example, words, etc and have a double standard.. And he's both lying and ignorant... NO contemporaneous historian talked of Jesus. They talked of the MOVEMENT.. just like there were hundreds of cults around deities and heroes. And just because you have a cult/movement with a text doesn't mean the figurehead was/is real. Think Apollo, Hercules, Perseus, Minerva, Mithras... Mickey Mouse, Harry Potter, Deadpool, etc. This is a major issue with xianity (evangelical more than most).
Both.
and let the tap dancing begin..😂
Jesus died before AND after the passover meal according to the gospels, he also died in the morning AND in the afternoon. So true and accurate, or maybe I just "interpret" wrong
So who gets to decide which interpretation is correct and true? There's the rub!
The catholic church of course - according to him
@@MK-lh3xdThe umpire he was likely taught from birth to believe, which is obviously way better and more true than all the other umpires other people were raised from infancy to believe. You can tell because they're not the one he was raised with.
What makes a believer so sure about their own god being the right one?
Indoctrination
My momma told me so. She’ll kick your ass.
…because their religion says their religion is true
If it wasn't for circular reason, Christians would have no reason at all
I'm pooping while watching guys
Hope everything comes out alright.
Sounds like a real shitshow. 🤣
This vide reminds me of two qoutes by ARON RA:
"Christians read between the lines and ignore the lines!"
"The truth is, what the facts are!"
He's very convincing! Hahahaha 😂
“How does any of this help you with today, Man?!
Fooling themselfs those believers are. Not one simple question answered. Very tiresome.
Because it's not about the actual "answers" per se, it's about the greater, deeper truths behind the questions. This caller needs a goatee and bongo drums to really get his points across with his "stream of unconsciousness" ramblings. That said, if this caller ever wants to get out of jury duty, that should be a SLAM DUNK within about ten seconds. He'll be on the "do not call" jury duty selection list for the rest of his natural life.
If a god wanted there to be one definite interpretation of his words, why would he give us inconsistent and poetic messages?
People yeet their brains over a book of fairy tales.
it's a biblical and non-biblical fact that the bible is full of utter nonsense
And of course, ALTERNATIVE FACTS ...........
The term "biblical facts" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing.
No such thing as a "biblical fact". We call that a meaningless noise
These guys crack me up.
"The bible has to be true, just not scientifically true nor historically true." 🤪 What!?!?!? 😅😂🤣😂😅
Can you say reeeeeaachinnnngggggg? 😅😂🤣😂😅
They even brainwash themselves!!!
"the hidden truth" exactly.
I’ve been wondering if I’d never been introduced to the idea of a God at a young age, with all the scientific knowledge we have now. Would I have even considered the possibility of a God? How much of my Brain time has been consumed contemplating the existence of a God. When now it seems clear there is no God. Seems like such a waste of a resource.
So basically what he is saying is the bible is just true and you have to find which way it is true, whether it's historical, scientific or metaphorically for each line because it's not just one across the board. It's about how it's interpreted but you can't rely on interpretation because there is a worthy truth and you have to find that. 🤔🤨 This dude is all over the map
Ryan sure thinks highly of himself for no reason.
The caller needs to do Dan Barker's "Easter Challenge" and make a coherent timeline for Jesus to live within.
I can relate to the caller. I, too, had the mind/logic of a 10-year-old.
Truth is a verifiable fact otherwise it’s just an opinion.
opinions vary in validity in relation to facts.
Okay, in your opinion the Catholic interpretation is correct and every other interpretation is incorrect?
The traditional view of the Catholic Church is that they are the only christians
As soon as Ryan said he is Catholic it told me alot about him. If he belongs to such a corrupt church, why should i believe his truth crap about the bible, which i don't believe is Gods word to begin with. Its like saying you joined the nazi party, worked in concentration camps, so i know all about loving others.
So you believe that there is a god ?
Um... which the church (both variants) did! The first treaties the Nazis made was with the Catholic and Lutheran Churches. Hell, HOW the Holocaust happened and the Nazis came to power is predicated upon 2000 years of xian Anti-Semitism... as I've always said "The Roads to Auschwitz and Dachau were paved with stones from Golgatha and the Damascus Road".. meaning, if it weren't for the hatred in the NT wherein it demonized the Jews (then others), then the polemic of the church fathers, then the bulls and edicts of the popes (and rulers) and the ongoing propaganda and policies over the centuries, the pogroms, incursions, the exploitation, exiles, enslavements, wars, crusades, incursions, butchery and ultimately the extermination of people would most likely never have happened. Even Luther penned what would essentially be a virtual CHECKLIST for the Nazis to implement in his "The Jews and their Lies" (written because the Jews would NOT convert en masse to Luther's Catholicism 2.0 and continually resisted his conversionary edicts). In that work, he "recommended" synagogues be destroyed, holy books burned, Rabbis and Jewish men slaughtered and the remaining Jewish women and children forced into "concentrated labor" (his words) for xians.. This was centuries before the Nazis.. meaning the most heinous of Hate Movements (including the Nazis and now the White Nationalists) don't happen in a vacuum. When you have a book and an institution demonizing a people (and not just Jews, but ANY and ALL "undesirables"), you can then denigrate them, disparage them, segregate them, then DEHUMANIZE them. Once they are seen as not even human and not worthy of even human decency, empathy, equality or basic human dignity/rights, you then can enslave them, exploit them of all their resources, valuables, and any and all abilities and then when the last ounce of "worth" has been savagely extracted from them, then exterminate them en masse; stating that it's for the "greater societal good" and not only that but in their eyes a MORAL and PATRIOTIC OBLIGATION/DUTY... stating they weren't murdering people.. they were in their words "eradicating a threat".
Did he say 'literalistically'
Sometimes, you have to let believers bring rope to their own hanging.
It’s quite efficient.
Christy: "Whats on your mind?"
Ryan: "Nothing much"
Well done Ryan. That is categorically the most honest answer from any theist on these shows ever.
What are the two kinds of truth according to Leibniz?
There are two kinds of truths, those of reasoning and those of fact. Truths of reasoning are necessary and their opposite is impossible: truths of fact are contingent and their opposite is possible.
false dichotomy. truths of reasoning ARE truths of fact. there would be no math if there wasn't stuff to count.
The Bible is 100% accurate...
when thrown from a short distance.
Does Ryan realize just how much gibberish he spewed during this call?
Is,is,is if is,is true
This guy never played sandlot baseball.
Nice job Christy: interpretation is, by definition, subjective. Claiming to have the objective interpretation is an oxymoron.
Why such a need for the “final piece of the puzzle”? ans laziness The answer is laziness. Either that or someone told them they were dumb when they were little and that person was probably a “smart person“. Like when their teacher gave them an F. Makes things kind of understandable doesn’t it? Either laziness or societal laziness for having paid poor attention to education
EVERYTHING has a cause ... BUT (my) "God" ...
If (your) "God" doesn't need a cause, why does the singularity - from which time & space expanded?! - need one?
Did God have a say in his existence? If he did then with what or whom did he negotiate, if he didn't and just "was "and he had no say in it then he can't be all powerful.
@@reluctantheist5224 "all powerful" is a meaningless phrase in any event.
This is the very problem I have with the Bible. I do not read science, math, or medical books "figuratively." I wouldn't have gotten to Square One in my career if I had.
If ,as according to Ryan, everything has a cause, what caused his God?
A talking snake or donkey doesn’t comport with reality. Ta dah!
"The Bible is absolutely 100% true if you just go out of your way to do gymnastics to interpret it right!"
Wow, convincing...
Why would you need to interpret a god’s perfect message?
Lev 26:29
Just read genesis book 1 verse 1to 10 and start laughing.. It's rubbish
“I believe the world to be more complex”… this is an insane statement, and they seemed to have just glossed over that. If I ask two people how a smartphone works, and one person starts talking about the people and how they used teamwork and education to develop new software and hardware, and the other starts talking about the actual hardware and software and how it works, then only the second person has answered the question. Keep in mind that this analogy generously assumes god exists, and yet this theists position still fails to “be more complex”, or be useful at all in answering the question.
Hmmm... Causality still exists BUT is NOT DEFINED on quantum scales, so... It could JUST be the worst possible cause for the Big Bang : The cause of the "out of the singularity state" COULD be the beginning of the expansion. Which would be utterly frustrating but could ultimately be the answer.
What's on your mind? Nothing much.Nuff said.Adding to that the caller despite not being able to define truth he was certainly looking for it.Maybe in the wrong way but I was hasty with my insinuation
Perfect: conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type
Ideal: a standard of perfection or excellence
This claimed god is "perfect" to what standard? Who defines the "ideal" state?
Humans are incapable of knowing whether god is perfect
@scambammer6102
Your assertion does not address what I said at all.
In order to determine perfection, we first need the COMPLETE description OR definition of an ideal type.
@@cmack17 of which there is no such definition or description. I am agreeing with you.
@@scambammer6102
Humans certainly could determine if a god was perfect if given a sufficient definition.
@@cmack17 there is no possible concrete definition of "perfect". it's a relational term. Similar to "nothing".
"The Bible is completely true, but not if you look at it historically or scientifically." Wow.
Buy-bull...
I love how weak God is you have to think at another level and just feel it.
What caused god?
Humans.
The infinite regress of human ignorance.
God caused god he's that powerful! But don't you dare suggest that the universe could have done the same thing because that's impossible!
The guy, like any other theist only has faith, it should be enough but it's clear that it isn't. He is trying to force his round peg of belief into the square hole of logic, rationality and science to convince himself that what he wants to believe is true, it clearly isn't and I get the feeling that eventually the penny will drop.
"Everything needs a cause" and "god doesn't need a cause" should never be in the same argument, as rhe conclusion would be that god is nothing
God created the universe, life and everything but nothing bad. 🙄
@@TheTruthKiwi Another bullshit believe, correct
@@TheTruthKiwi Nice fairy tale story.
@@fredbohm4728 I know right. I'm just pointing out that christians claim that their god created literally everything but when you bring up things like babies born with cancer and birth defects, dementia in the elderly, down syndrome and the myriad of other afflictions they either blame "satan" or flat out deny that was god's doing.
Either their god isn't all loving, isn't all powerful, isn't omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent or just doesn't exist.
The latter is most likely of course.
@@fredbohm4728Nah. Not nice at all.
Poor Ryan, he has a bunch of words he uses he has no idea what he means when he says them !!! The brain of the religious person is 100% damaged !!
Which proves that most apologists are nothing more than well trained parrots. They all squawk out the same talking points without so much as a cursory CEREBRAL review of what the hell they're bleating, braying or blathering.
Literalistically!
About eleven minutes in: the universe was created, and everything has a cause. Cool, I'm on board - but first, how does that prove that YOUR GOD was caused the creation? Correct me if I'm wrong, but with 4,000+ different religions on the planet, there might be many more creation myths than just the one that the caller is familiar with.
Ok, so how exactly do we find out that the supernatural claims made in the bible are true?
go down to the morgue and wait for one of the bodies to rise
"The Bible is absolutely true, depending upon which bits you agree with". Am I being unfair to the caller ?
Imagine there’s a god that wants to reveal itself to its creation and chose to rely on humans piecing together which parts are literal and which are not and which is the right interpretation. Ha
he's wrong in his method of evaluating info. you don't believe in the big bang you accept the current model. the problem is faith
The caller states the Bible is 100% true, and he states he believes in the Big Bang theory. How do you reconcile that!?
The Bible is the claim. Not the evidence
brainless youtube slogan
Wow just let him slip away with the Bible is true.
Ryan, you says things have to have causes why does this God never have to have a cause
If the Bible was perfect why so many versions?
Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions KNOW that they freely and openly REJECTED -
1. the Bible as worthless and useless, just a book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign God
3. Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth
4. the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever in their own lives and existence.
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions don't KNOW and understand that worshippers of the Creator and believers of the Christ are NOT and will never be Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Catholics, Born Again Christians, or fanatics of any Religion and Cult in the world
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions KNOW that the Creator's Sovereignty and his Christ's authority and teachings are offensive and not acceptable to them.
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions are simply offended, hurt, and angered by these -
All imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to the authority of Jesus Christ as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are definitely bringing upon themselves that Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
Atheists, Agnostics, fanatics of all Religions, worshippers of the Creator, believers of the Christ, and all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all loving, kind, and submissive worshippers of the Creator and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the Creator's right and proper time, Jesus Christ will resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854word salad
@@jaflenbond7854 *Question*
Matthew 17
17 Six days later, Jesus took Peter, James, and John, the brother of James, up on a high mountain by themselves. 2 While they watched, Jesus’ appearance was changed; his face became bright like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. 3 Then Moses and Elijah[a] appeared to them, talking with Jesus.
*Wouldn't an all knowing all powerful god know Moses is a myth*
@@jaflenbond7854Cut and paste superstitious nonsense. How about some real evidence for all that mental diarrhea. Or for any of it.
@@penguincommando Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions KNOW that they freely and openly REJECTED -
1. the Bible as worthless and useless, just a book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign God
3. Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth
4. the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever in their own lives and existence.
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions just don't KNOW and can't understand that worshippers of the Creator and believers of the Christ are NOT and will never be Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Catholics, Born Again Christians, or fanatics of any Religion and Cult in the world
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions KNOW that the authorities, will, and teachings of the Creator and his Christ are offensive and not acceptable to them.
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions are simply offended, hurt, and angered by these -
All imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to the authority of Jesus Christ as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are definitely bringing upon themselves that Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
Atheists, Agnostics, fanatics of all Religions, worshippers of the Creator, believers of the Christ, and all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all loving, kind, and submissive worshippers of the Creator and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the Creator's right and proper time, Jesus Christ will resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
This guy will go to any length to make the bible sound true.
Many topics are 'complex', but that doesn't mean you can't provide a meaningful summary in a short period of time. This video is over 18 minutes which plenty of time to summarize your views, but Ryan went absolutely nowhere.
Even though I'm an Atheist, I believe its not impossible that every word of the Bible could be untrue and the God of the Bible is real, so I really don't get way Christians want to defend every word in it.
Because besides that they have nothing real
If all of the Bible is untrue than there shouldn’t be an biblical god, just a god that is the inspiration of the fictional version.
“Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter” didn’t exist as the movie of that name isn’t true, but there was a real man the character is based on.
@@Bas-TB Wait Abraham Lincoln wasnt a vampire hunter? But the movie says so!
@@Bas-TB Right, that would indeed be the case, don't get me wrong though I'm not saying I believe that's the case, but everything doesn't have to be true for there to be a God of the Bible.
@@mjc8281 If the story isn’t fully about true that god than that god isn’t really the biblical god.
If I write a book about you that isn’t accurate than you probably wouldn’t identify yourself as the person in that book without the appropriate caveats.
It's so simple, it's laughable:
There is no perfect bible, nor was there ever.
Facts are not part of the bible, and never were.
We don’t “know” shit! We experience thought.
Caller: you are effectively defining truth as hearsay and allegory and using that as basis for an epistemology, the sheer failure of replete disparity from this leads to finding nothing but sophistry and perpetuated ignorance. If you want a reliable concept of truth that incorporates both the subjective and the objective you should try something like relative objectivism with a heuristic of Bayesian epistemology; at least then you would have a method to your madness, so to speak.