2 Strokes : Engine Lubrication (Premix vs Oil Pump)
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
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My oil pump is working fine still I do premix 30ml 2T. The bike runs fine however I see oil deposits below the exhaust port lol. It’s a big bore hence I prefer premix too.
I guess that's too much oil. I'd suggest you to delete the oil pump and run purely premixed.
@@BrattyBiker it’s a 150cc bore that’s why I feel using premix too. Will try and stop the pump see the results.
Yeah, 30ml oil premix alone, will be enough.
Bro thank u for ur clear explanation 🔥🔥
Thanks :)
Cheers!
Nice bro!!! Perfect.
Thanks :)
Informative video 👌
Thank you :)
Great video!. Premixing is definitely the most convenient way unless you have a brand new oil pump, which is highly unlikely. Try to keep the text parts in the video shorter, makes the video short and precise. Cheerio! Looking forward to more videos!
Thank you! Surely I’ll keep the text duration low!
Hi, I own an Yamaha Rx 100 1989 model.
Firstly can I use nulon engine oil treatment in my motorcycle is that okay??
Secondly I’m using 2t oil in my petrol tank because previously my engine was seized and came to bore as the pump failed. But now based on the reality that the hike of the petrol has increased drastically so I’m planning to comeback to pump what are your thoughts?
But sometimes again I feel let me stick to premix 😄(I’m adding 40ml per litre in city and on highways speeding above 60kmph I used 50ml per litre)
I’m Using Mak but now planning to use Motul as I heard it emits less smoke comparatively.
Welcome to the channel dude!
1) Yes, although I am yet to use it on my RXG, many of my mentors/seniors have used it on their bikes, even in the past when you could walk into a Nulon is proven to be quite good for 2 stroke engines. But make sure to do one full tank of premixed fuel along with the Nulon treatment, something like this : Our RX has a 10.5lt fuel tank, so 10 ltrs of fuel + 250ml 2T oil (translates to 25ml per litre) + 100 ml NULON (translates to 10ml per litre). Ride this till reserve and then use normal premixed fuel. This is the best way, as recommended by them.
2) Premix will always be the safest option when it comes to reliability. Yamaha's Oil Pump, is actually known to work well for many years but the problem is that failure has no warnings but only result of a siezed engine. We can only rebore so many times before we have to struggle with time and money on searching for a replacement block-piston kit. So regardless of petrol price, I would still stick with premixing.
Premixing is also cheaper in my case, 1lt of 2T oil costs about ₹250-300, I premix 25ml per litre inside city, if you are using the pump, a full oil tank of 1lt 2T oil can last for ~1000KM of running (assuming you get 35kmpl, that's about 28.5 litres of petrol, almost 3 tankfulls, almost ₹3,000 worth of fuel) whereas if you are using the same 1lt of oil, but premixing 25ml oil per litre of fuel, that means 10lt petrol + 250ml oil, so it will last for almost 4 full tanks (10lt x 4).
So 25ml, I find this perfectly adequate and the bike is running great! I do go upto 30ml for ocassional highway runs but most of the time, it's 25ml per litre. In your case, I feel 40-50ml is too much but if its working well, then no worries.
If you premix 40-50ml per litre, any oil will smoke lol, so try reducing how much you mix. Don't go below 25ml, 30ml is the sweetspot. MAK is a good oil, on the cheaper side, quite thin and works well. Do try the Motul Motomix and Shell Advance VSX. I have not compared them in terms of smoke because my bike doesn't smoke too much, neither am I concerned about it. You can also try ELF 2T by Total Lubricants. Good oil with a peculiar smell to it.
@@BrattyBiker thank you buddy, appreciate your efforts of sharing your knowledge for the viewers.
@@AB-hs9pw Cheers bro, anytime!
Good content
Bro, is it advisable to stick to one petrol brand?(Like Indian Oil). Or is it ok to switch petrol brands? Btw what petrol brand do you recommend for 2 strokes?
It is highly recommended to stick to one or two exact petrol station as the quality of labour determines the quality of work and ultimately the quality of fuel and it varies a lot between bunks even of the same company.
I cannot exactly recommend one single brand for petrol as it has to do with personal research and identifying the best in your area. It can be an IndianOil bunk or a Bharat Petroleum bunk or even a Shell bunk.
I have heard that Shell is more expensive due to their better cleansing process and quality of fuel but I do not have a significant proof to this.
Whatever you do, try to bring and premix your own oil (you can carry a small bottle or shell’s pouches) instead of the oil from the fuel station.
But I will do my research on the cleanliness and purity of fuel between brands and will make a video for sure!
@@BrattyBiker thanks bro. I always go to Indian oil near my house( though I'm planning to switch to Shell) and I carry my own oil(Motul Motomix) in a small bottle.
Bharat Tejsingani Great. Always measure oil and premix the correct amount of oil.
@@BrattyBiker 25-30ml is what I mix.
Perfect if you’re running purely premixed without the help of Oil pump.
Just open your oil pump change oilseals to the OE new one thats it your pump will work as new all theory of oil pump is depend upon oilseals
Not exactly. There are other things that can go wrong with the pump, like the actuator getting stuck, the gears wearing out,dirt in oil tank can screw up the pump and block the hose too ; all this can cause engine siezures and the worst part is that it can happen anytime with no warning.
Oil seals are important, yes. But it only makes sure that oil doesn’t leak from the pump. It doesn’t directly contribute to the functioning of the pump.
Bratty Biker ok bro
Grate video 🔥
Keep it up 👍
Thank you :)
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Thanks for watching 😊
Hello, previously I was using Motul 20W40 mineral oil. As I was going out of town I handed my bike to my mechanic for service and told him to put 20W40 oil but instead he added 15W50 mineral oil in the engine and he says it’s okay. Will there be a problem now for the engine?
No worries, it should be fine.
@@BrattyBiker what are your thoughts about Motul 20W50 semisynthetic oil for Yamaha RX100/135/RXG
Very good oil. 20W40 or 20W50 is all you need for the transmission.
@@BrattyBiker awesome, thanks.
What oil brand you recommend for premixing? Please advise
If you are not able to carry oil, then find and use fuel stations where they have a seperate pumping machine for oil (like petrol) and not some big jar where they use measurement cups for oil. The latter is not trustworthy.
If you are able to carry oil and a large syringe, then I'd suggest you use Shell Advance VSX or Motul MotoMix 2T. Great budget oils with super lubrication.
Hi @brattybiker, hope you are doing well.
Have you got your hands on/used any fd rated oil?
Hey! I am searching for an FD oil as well. Will report once I get an example.
@@BrattyBiker cool thanks
Doubt?
I'm choosing premix petrol tank...
To get stop the separate oil.pump line ..? Yes or no
Plz tell me answer
So if you want to premix, you have to remove the oil pump and you have to close/seal the oil pipe which goes from the oil pump to the carburettor. I have made a tutorial video on doing these : czcams.com/video/l2fo7vcW0mI/video.html
You can follow that video tutorial.
Make sure to store the pump,tank and its pipes safely.
@@BrattyBiker ok bro ..and the pump line wasn't close ...if it's suck air ... So
That is affect any issue...?
Because I feel long travel times that air flow disturbing my pickup and smooth ride experience 😭
Yes, it must NOT suck air, because if it does, then what happens is that the tuning of the carburettor would be messed up, the engine will run lean and this can cause problems like starting trouble, pickup and mileage getting reduced.
That is why it is necassary to close it or seal it.
Ok bro I'll close to my rx135 oil pump line...👍...
Thank.u .so much ❤️
@@thiyaneswaran9626 Cheers! Happy to help :)
Hi bro, Can you please tell what should be the tuning of the carb once we do not use the 2t pump ? Mine stopped working ,I am using Premix but I think usual 1.5 turns out is not optimal anymore.
I have mine slightly richer at 1 turn out compared to 1.5. You can try 1.25 turn out and also try 1 tun oit. Stick to whichever that works for you.
@@BrattyBiker thanks for the suggestion,I am currently set to 1 turn,feels better 1.5 turns ,will run a bit with this setting and then will try 1.25,will see whichever is better.
One thing I have noticed that above 80kmph it's vibrates a lot and kinda hard to reach the 100 mark,any idea what could be the issue?
I remember last year I had run 95 with pillion easily.
Struggling to move beyond 85, this could be due to a lot of things. But do a simple overall maintenance, basic checks and then try again.
@@BrattyBiker added a new battery, changed the engine oil,it's pretty easy to cruise at 70 ,o just wanted this comfort at 10kmph more, could be due to the premix ratio as well.
Next step I am gonna lube the chain and wai till this oil gets over and then will add proper 2t ratio again,40ml/lit is fine right?
@@sagnikdas6031 Yes, do check the power transmitting parts like the condition of the clutch,chain, sprockets, wheel bearing, rims, tyres.etc. Do get the front end checked as well.
40ml is too much. 25-30ml is perfectly enough for 4 speed 135/RXG.
bro nulon engine oil teartment rx use pannalama? any advantage and disadvantage
Yes sir, use pannalaam.
I am going to use on my bike too. Nulon wil create a small coating of itself over the piston,cylinder walls,crank,bearings.etc to reduce friction by a bit.
Helps in smoothening the engine and getting better engine life.
Disadvantages, nothing much but if you want to nitpick, well, you need to mix it properly with petrol and you need to make sure that the tank,fuel on/off switch and carburettor is clean before you pour it in.
Good content
Thank you :)