Joan Sutherland - D'oreste D'Aiace ( Idomeneo/MOZART )

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  • čas přidán 12. 11. 2009
  • Soprano / 1979
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Komentáře • 134

  • @wilsonwatt9283
    @wilsonwatt9283 Před 5 lety +32

    Many opera lovers [and critics] still think that Sutherland's recorded Donna Anna is the greatest ever. Interesting that here she goes back, late in her career, to another one of Mozart's true dramatic soprano roles and literally creates a tornado of sound and fury perfectly capturing the crazed anger of this character. WOW!!!

    • @kbhprinsesse
      @kbhprinsesse Před rokem +1

      She's amazing in both part. One of my big regrets is that her Countess in "Le nozze di Figaro" was never preserved. Or can you imagine what she could have done with Fiordiligi? :D

  • @DavidButler-ox4bv
    @DavidButler-ox4bv Před 8 lety +78

    We (the audience) had sat through several hours of beautiful but fairly static opera seria for this, so by the time she came on everyone was hanging out for vocal thrills - and as you can hear, she didn't disappoint! Blew the place apart. Vintage Sutherland and soooooo exciting to hear live. In an interview she said she liked the role because it gave her lots of time in her dressing room to do needlepoint!!

    • @danawinsor1380
      @danawinsor1380 Před 7 lety +8

      lololol. Thank you for your remembrance. What a performance. Brava Joan!

    • @ancientmariner7372
      @ancientmariner7372 Před 3 lety +6

      David Butler ....agreed......it was sensational.....the temperature rose immediately in the auditorium. And rightly so. Opera Seria can often be like listening to a loop, but this was Electra-fying

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng Před 2 lety +3

      Beverly Sills didn't like Queen of the Night because of all of the long down time between arias. She stayed in her dressing room addressing all her Christmas cards.

    • @kbhprinsesse
      @kbhprinsesse Před rokem +2

      That's so typical of her, saying something like that :D

  • @MrStpendouslvforjo
    @MrStpendouslvforjo Před 13 lety +24

    ABSOLUTELY SUPERB! a big Dramatic sound with that gleaming high C! Who could be better? I love you Dame Joan!!!!!!

  • @christophecesar4761
    @christophecesar4761 Před 8 lety +23

    I can't imagine how could the walls of the room stand after this...

  • @eric644
    @eric644 Před 6 lety +42

    The amount of resonance she produces is nothing short of superhuman! It pours out like an ocean wave, with complex harmonics and overtones. Truly she is unique. There will never be anyone who sings like her.

  • @orion8835
    @orion8835 Před 4 lety +13

    Breathtakingly effective. Chills.

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan10950 Před 4 lety +22

    Absolutely thrilling! For the record, in Mozart’s era, it was customary for singers to add appoggiaturas and other ornaments. A lot of people freak out when they hear interpolations, but it was standard practice when these pieces were first performed.

    • @zalba5710
      @zalba5710 Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for pointing that out. Many people are so pressed about that high c 😂

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 Před 2 lety +4

      @@zalba5710 , io sarei preoccupato del contrario. Interpolazione e quel Do acuto ci stanno benissimo.

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 Před 2 lety +3

      Alla fine dell'aria, se hai la voce e l'impeto della Sutherland, puoi interpolazione tutto. Ma in quest'aria poche lo potrebbero fare a parte Maria Callas e la Sutherland...forse la Leontyne Price.

  • @user-rz5xu5yh9h
    @user-rz5xu5yh9h Před 14 dny

    Fabulous singing. Thank you for posting this.

  • @christiaandhooghe
    @christiaandhooghe Před 14 lety +17

    Wooouw, hail our Queen!!!!
    I love this sooooo much.
    Especially the last high note..no other soprano DARES...she does!!!!
    BRAVA.

  • @joserico282
    @joserico282 Před 14 lety +11

    Mozart sure wrote some killers. Another phenomenal execution by the great Dame.

  • @crazyorganist1609
    @crazyorganist1609 Před 7 lety +20

    this shows Joan's true power powering over the whole orcherstra

  • @rakellcolotta3675
    @rakellcolotta3675 Před 3 lety +4

    And who else could wear that amazing costume and headdress with authority? NO ONE!!!

  • @antben8992
    @antben8992 Před 3 lety +8

    Mai avrei immaginato che Joan Sutherland avrebbe dato una tale interpretazione vocale e drammatica! Straordinaria!

  • @krowapaulinka4351
    @krowapaulinka4351 Před 6 lety +47

    I don't normally like adding high notes to Mozart's arias but it actually does fit here very well and Joan's high Cs are simply gorgeous.

    • @Dan474834
      @Dan474834 Před 5 lety +3

      That’s not what Mozart wrote and it detracts from the dramatic effect he was going after here in my opinion.

    • @zalba5710
      @zalba5710 Před 2 lety +10

      @@Dan474834 it would have been completely normal in that times to add high notes and all sorts of weird ornamentations, sometimes even Arias from other operas or even composers. Mozart wasn’t delusional, he knew his vocal parts would be changed.

    • @nwdixieboy
      @nwdixieboy Před rokem +5

      The thing that would make me like Mozart more is if there were more dramatic high notes. It's usually so restrained. I like the singers to have a chance to show off. Call me shallow

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 Před rokem +2

      ​@@nwdixieboy, Mozart e' sobrio come tutti gli altri compositori di allora, Paisiello, Cimarosa ecc. Mozart non era considerato un genio come oggi, tant'e' che oltre al Don Giovanni non si rappresentava altro. Tutti i cantanti variavao e aggiungevano com'era nel gusto e nello stile di oggi. Mozart si esegue in maniera monotona.

    • @baritonebynight
      @baritonebynight Před 3 měsíci

      @@Dan474834 It fits with the character .....and unless you are an expert on the ouija board.....I trust Dame Joan to interpret Mozart more than I would trust you.

  • @JoanSutherlandFan
    @JoanSutherlandFan Před 7 lety +33

    Wonderful Joan. This is the aria that she born to sing. She attacks literally with her powerful voice and the high note a la Joan :) Joan lover

  • @fadyjb
    @fadyjb Před 13 lety +9

    OMG ! How did she ever do that tossing around all thoses notes like a big festival of sparkling stars ! La Stupenda is the Best ! We Shall All miss you sooo much . RIP

  • @brodereck1
    @brodereck1 Před 4 lety +7

    I saw this performance in 1979. Sensational.

  • @marcocampus7943
    @marcocampus7943 Před 2 lety +3

    The Queen. The final staccato is crazy !!!!!!

    • @DrDarylBarclay
      @DrDarylBarclay Před 9 měsíci

      Yes, most sopranos try to turn this into a "ha ha ha" passage in order to achieve the fast articulation of the notes while approximating the pitch. Joan needs no such trickery - the articulation is perfect and clearly what Mozart intended.

  • @SilfredoSerrano
    @SilfredoSerrano Před 4 lety +9

    Joan is on fire with this! So amazing!

  • @Dr__Feelgood
    @Dr__Feelgood Před 6 měsíci +2

    Oh, the frightening ferocity of La Stupenda!!!

  • @gataca1976
    @gataca1976 Před 6 lety +9

    FLAWLESS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @willworkforwages
    @willworkforwages Před 8 lety +14

    It's amazing that such a large voice can do so much. The earth must have shook. I didn't know she sang this role. Thanks for the post.

  • @josecarrerastema8654
    @josecarrerastema8654 Před rokem +2

    Che dire?
    Immensa,fantastica.
    Unica

  • @-Tesla-Live_
    @-Tesla-Live_ Před 7 lety +15

    Incredibile!

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579
    @bovnycccoperalover3579 Před 7 lety +7

    La Stupenda Joan Sutherland. I envy those who saw her in person.

  • @larrywoods6318
    @larrywoods6318 Před 7 lety +11

    The greatest singer of any age, past, present, and future..............

    • @marcocampus7943
      @marcocampus7943 Před 2 lety

      Every role she sings seems to be vocally written for her. Lucrezia Borgia, Maria Stuarda, Alcina, Amina, Lucia.
      Even here, although Mozart is not really his repertoire, it seems like a perfect Electra.

  • @johnyohalem6507
    @johnyohalem6507 Před 7 lety +18

    And this was at 53 years of age, ladies and gentlemen!
    I did not know she ever sang this role.
    The interpolated high note -- so Joan -- is something no one else ever tries in this role.
    (I heard Niska, Behrens and Vaness in the role -- Behrens was the maddest.)
    But hey: Lucia, Linda, Elvira, Esclarmonde -- she always knew what to do with a loony dame.

    • @DavidButler-ox4bv
      @DavidButler-ox4bv Před 7 lety +12

      here's something else you didn't know... during that season of Idomeneo, both the lead tenor and his understudy got so sick there was no Idomeneo to sing the role. Solution? The opera company got Traviata out of storage with about three days' notice and did that instead - for one night, with Sutherland singing Violetta. Then three days later she was back doing Elettra again. I can tell you, that was one exciting Traviata!!

    • @arnoldamaral7406
      @arnoldamaral7406 Před 5 lety +1

      David Butler TY FOR SHARING! DAME JOAN LA STUPENDA!ARNOLD BOURBON AMARAL

    • @wotan10950
      @wotan10950 Před 2 lety

      @@janewsome78 Interpolations and variations were common in Mozart’s time.

  • @baritonebynight
    @baritonebynight Před 5 lety +9

    A true rarity from her repertoire. I never knew she sang this aria, let alone the entire role! This is spectacular!

  • @williammaddox3339
    @williammaddox3339 Před 7 lety +33

    I have never heard this much fire in Sutherland's singing, not even as Norma. I did not think she had this in her.

    • @Eiswirth1
      @Eiswirth1 Před 5 lety +13

      Have you heard her "Turandot," or her "Santo di Patria" recording from the early 60s? There's nothing ever recorded to compare to her fiery brilliance on that one aria.

    • @emmanuelchaparro552
      @emmanuelchaparro552 Před 5 lety +12

      @@Eiswirth1 Or her Esclarmonde. She sounded so natural and comfortable in dramatic roles, using the powerful voice she repressed in others.

    • @williammaddox3339
      @williammaddox3339 Před rokem

      @@Eiswirth1 Very familiar with both recordings and they are not hurting for fire but this recording is in another league in terms of being in the character and situation.

  • @larrywoods6318
    @larrywoods6318 Před 4 lety +3

    Simply superb, no other words for it.

  • @usao57
    @usao57 Před 12 lety +5

    En effet la plus grande, incontestablement.

  • @Zva26
    @Zva26 Před 5 lety +13

    On no other occasion have I heard Sutherland sing with such involvement, conviction, power, and grandeur. What a shame she couldn't inject some of this into her Norma.

    • @baritonebynight
      @baritonebynight Před 5 měsíci

      LOL a nobody giving advice to a world class singer.

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan10950 Před 7 lety +13

    Although I got to see her in the theater on quite a few occasions, she sang some operas in Australia that she didn't repeat anywhere else: Idomeneo, Suor Angelica, Carmelites. Lucky Australians!

    • @williammaddox3339
      @williammaddox3339 Před 7 lety

      She did the Carmelites in London in 1958 and the same role.

    • @wotan10950
      @wotan10950 Před 7 lety +2

      Oh, I don't know how I missed that performance. Perhaps because I was a baby.

    • @highbaritone
      @highbaritone Před 4 lety +2

      Yes weren’t we lucky. Otello as well. Borgia in the Concert hall was another great night out.

    • @kbhprinsesse
      @kbhprinsesse Před rokem

      @@highbaritone she did Otello both in London in 1957 and in Vienna in 1959. But I agree - you were lucky!!!! I live in Denmark and didn't begin to listen to opera until 1991 when I was 15, so I missed out on ever hearing Sutherland in the flesh.

  • @dougbarker3019
    @dougbarker3019 Před 8 lety +28

    One of the all-time best examples of how to totally smash an aria to pieces!

    • @12341234W1
      @12341234W1 Před 7 lety

      Doug Barker, you must be a Mozart purist ! Do you prefer the Barbara Bonney style ?

    • @larrywoods6318
      @larrywoods6318 Před 7 lety

      And how would you know this?

    • @tantris39
      @tantris39 Před 6 lety +3

      I took that as a compliment!

    • @DiomedesDioscuro
      @DiomedesDioscuro Před 6 lety

      I can't imagine what on earth you mean.

    • @highbaritone
      @highbaritone Před 4 lety

      It’s interesting when I see some reactions to a negative comment, I can’t find the original comment. Any way I saw this production and, well she was amazing. We were all blown away, fans and non fans. We were all speechless.
      That is the sound that could have been her Turandot live.

  • @enthusedtosing9655
    @enthusedtosing9655 Před 2 lety +3

    Now THAT was unchained

  • @hardsums32
    @hardsums32 Před 11 měsíci +1

    That was brilliant, powerful , I never knew she had it in her.

  • @-Tesla-Live_
    @-Tesla-Live_ Před 9 lety +35

    Wagnerian Mozart!

  • @ian.marais1202
    @ian.marais1202 Před 3 lety +1

    The likeliness of her we will not see soon. Bravaaa Joan.

  • @paperoghino68
    @paperoghino68 Před 13 lety +1

    Brividi e commozione per un'artista sconvolgente ed unica.

  • @gokouson180
    @gokouson180 Před 7 lety +11

    There used to be an actual video of her performance. I'm sad to see it's gone. That was solid proof that she could ACT. It was for lack of a better word... stupendous!

    • @IzayoiMeiHigu
      @IzayoiMeiHigu Před 7 lety +1

      I want that video :'( where can I find it ?

    • @MrQwerty88
      @MrQwerty88 Před 7 lety +4

      Wow

    • @nathandavis3002
      @nathandavis3002 Před 7 lety +4

      If you ever find this video... YOU MUUST TELL US! MUST! I'd kill to actually see her perform this piece

  • @vincenzoanzoletti1296
    @vincenzoanzoletti1296 Před 6 lety +4

    She's spectacular! Brava!!!!

  • @DiomedesDioscuro
    @DiomedesDioscuro Před 7 lety +15

    A vocal AND interpretative marvel, despite what some detractors may say (with which degree of sincerity?)

  • @johnruggeri843
    @johnruggeri843 Před 9 lety +8

    For a dull ?? singer she sure sounds rather involved and stupendous.
    Alex the Barbaro aria fromGriselda/Montezuma highlights was removed some time ago and I want it back also.
    Regards-John

  • @barbaranorthwood
    @barbaranorthwood Před 7 lety +5

    Magnificent!

    • @arnoldamaral7406
      @arnoldamaral7406 Před 5 lety

      Barbara Northwood HELLO BARBARA! I JUST FIND THIS FANTASTIC! DAME JOAN SO EVIL! ARNOLD BOURBON AMARAL

  • @stefanovizioli
    @stefanovizioli Před 3 lety +1

    spettacolare, meravigliosa

  • @ian.marais1202
    @ian.marais1202 Před 3 lety +1

    For eternity this role/aria will belong to only two sopranos. Joan Sutherland and Edda Moser. They are the only two dramatic coloratura sopranos who could sing this role with conviction and a hair raising element. They are fantastic.

  • @filthyandgorgeous
    @filthyandgorgeous Před 5 měsíci

    Wow!

  • @yukio84
    @yukio84 Před 12 lety +4

    Amazing!

  • @ivanguerrero3317
    @ivanguerrero3317 Před 10 lety +2

    GREAT WORK ON THIS VIDEO

  • @12341234W1
    @12341234W1 Před 7 lety +5

    Fabulous performance !

  • @raigekimaru
    @raigekimaru Před 14 lety +6

    @joserico282
    true dat, it seems like mozart when writing for sopranos was like "hmm, I wonder if they could do this?"

  • @debbiewoodburn6786
    @debbiewoodburn6786 Před 6 lety +1

    Bravissima!

  • @user-ql8qz9rh4u
    @user-ql8qz9rh4u Před 9 měsíci

    Bravo!

  • @wolfwest2584
    @wolfwest2584 Před 6 lety +1

    brava..rip JoAN

  • @olgabelov
    @olgabelov Před 3 lety

    Great!

  • @MS-xp4xm
    @MS-xp4xm Před 4 lety

    The best Elettra!!!

  • @pkmn1992
    @pkmn1992 Před 2 lety

    does someone has this full recording? haven´t been able to find it anywhere on the internet.

  • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
    @fabriziomariagarzi5534 Před 5 lety +1

    L'acuto conclusivo ci sta benissimo! Chi se ne frega della filologia!

  • @anacleto2011
    @anacleto2011 Před 12 lety

    Manrico hai ragione, completamente .... ma siamo già nel 1979

  • @marcosrobertorobertosobera3170

    Cantou muito, só que a D"Oreste da Ahnnuska é imbatível...
    🎵🎶🎼💖💖💖🎹🎶🎵

  • @kestalphillips1813
    @kestalphillips1813 Před 6 lety

    What is the final note?

  • @CarlitosDessay
    @CarlitosDessay Před 11 lety

    hey! het spijt me dat ik je zo laat terugschrijft. Het is niet precies dat ik van haar stijl niet houd...werkelijk vind ik ze een grote zangeres en kunstenares, maar je hebt gelijk:ander materiaal en andere tijden, alleen is het jammer dat veel zangeressen (meest "oude") kenden niet duidelijk-correcte Mozart/Händel enz. zingen, omdat hun Verdi/Donizzetti bijna prima was, en dat vind ik iets negatiefs voor een kunstenaar. Mozart kunt je niet met Donizetti vergelijken...totaal verschillende stijl.

  • @orion8835
    @orion8835 Před 4 lety

    #dramaticoloraturasoprano

  • @CarlitosDessay
    @CarlitosDessay Před 11 lety

    non potrei essere più d'accordo con te, alla fine uno che non è sordo!

  • @ceciliafederico2587
    @ceciliafederico2587 Před 5 lety +2

    Peccato non si capisca quasi una parola.Il fraseggio,questo sconosciuto.

    • @alebrove
      @alebrove Před 4 lety

      Cecilia Federico già...

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 Před 3 lety +1

      @@alebrove , anche dalla Devia non capisci una parola.

    • @alebrove
      @alebrove Před 3 lety

      @@fabriziogarzi9892 io la capisco benissimo.

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 Před 3 lety

      @@alebrove , ti riferisci a Sutherland o a Devia?

  • @CarlitosDessay
    @CarlitosDessay Před 11 lety +1

    ah, er zijn erg veel andere sopraans, die met hoger noten durven, maar als je DAT met Mozart maken wilt...het is toch een grote vergissing, ik zal je wat zeggen...Sutherland was een grote, uitstekende sopraan maar haar Mozart was verschrikkelijk, veel professinele zangers zo zeggen, en dat denk ik ook. Wat jammer, het was misschien de ergste Elektra, die ik gehord heb.

  • @angelacamilletti8657
    @angelacamilletti8657 Před 2 lety

    Straordinaria vocalità, stile molto personale........ma qualcuno di voi sa dirmi in che lingua ha cantato Dame Joan? Grazie.

    • @vincenzoanzoletti1296
      @vincenzoanzoletti1296 Před rokem

      Italiano, in realtà😆. E se si conosce il libretto, la sua dizione non risulta essere poi pessima.

    • @richardholmesmusic2128
      @richardholmesmusic2128 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I would like to hear ANY Italian soprano who could sing the tessitura of this fiendish aria, put out the ocean of raging tone Sutherland puts out, sing it with both accuracy and passion, and yet somehow pleases your expert ear for diction. Non esiste, caro!

  • @christiaandhooghe
    @christiaandhooghe Před 11 lety

    Sutherland is nooit een echte Mozart sopraan geweest, ze gaf dat zelf ook toe.
    Haar vroege Donna Anna, en de Mozart aria's in de jaren 60/70...zeker stijlvol.
    Madame Herz....niet te versmaden! :)
    Sutherland, zou ook The Entfuhrung gedaan hebben. Dat was vast een succes geweest, zij als Constansa.
    Ik ben van mening dat je haar niet mag en kan vergelijken met de zangeressen van deze tijd Harteros enz.
    Ander matriaal en andere tijden.
    Toch bedankt voor je eerlijke mening.

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze Před 27 dny

    Definitive. E basta.

  • @jonbaum
    @jonbaum Před 2 lety

    I had no idea that Sutherland was capable of drama like this she always strikes me as such a boring singer.

  • @musicatiranna553
    @musicatiranna553 Před 7 lety +4

    ma perchè fare puntature????? mozart non tollerava acuti finali in chiusura.....quello stile è venuto dopo. !!!!!!

    • @tantris39
      @tantris39 Před 6 lety +2

      Get a life!!!!

    • @liedersanger1
      @liedersanger1 Před 6 lety

      Mack He has good point!

    • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
      @fabriziomariagarzi5534 Před 5 lety +3

      musica tiranna55....gli abbellimenti..gli acuti finali...c'eri al tempo di Mozart? Mozart non credo si scandalizzasse, era prassi comune anche nel Settecento e oggi si sono inventati che non era cosi. Anche la pasta all'amatriciana non prevede il peperoncino ma solo il pepe...eppure tutti ce lo mettono. L'illustre musicologo Giovanni Carli Ballola spiego' che si variava anche Cherubini e sopratutto Spontini, ed erano felicissimi. La puntatura finale della Joan, di che ti preoccupi, lo ha sempre fatto.Il teatro e' teatro. Mi preoccupano invece "le altre", che non fanno ne' questo e ne quello' e si trincerano dietro la filologia che ammazza qualunque fantasia...forse pure la tua.

  • @manrico73ud
    @manrico73ud Před 13 lety +4

    Non centra nulla con quella che dovrebbe essere la vocalità mozartiana. Sempre in ritardo e non si capisce nulla di quello che dice, peggio del solito.
    Indiscutibile voce ancor più indiscutibile artista ma Mozart non è questo.
    E tacciamo dell'acuto finale.

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 Před 3 lety +2

      Edi Dario, ci insegni lei quale e' lo stile di Mozart e il perche' il Do acuto non va bene e le altre cose che non le stanno bene così ci faremo una cultura in proposito.

  • @draganvidic2039
    @draganvidic2039 Před 6 lety +2

    She’s got bad diction, vowels and no low register.

    • @mscott3918
      @mscott3918 Před 6 lety +5

      Dragan Vidic For all that you say, she was one of the greatest singers ever. Can you do better?

    • @timothycarpenter4603
      @timothycarpenter4603 Před 5 lety +2

      Diction: well in this aria it doesn't matter as much as in some, but I thought she did rather well in that department.
      Vowels: her vowels are wonderful - she just doesn't always use the printed ones, but uses the best ones for her voice - and I don't mind a bit.
      Register: not sure what your point is, there, except that her lowest notes are not as strong as the middle or top, but they are perfectly acceptable in the context of this demanding aria.
      In sum, this is the best I've heard this aria sung: those who have the power for the vengeance and blood and thunder often come to grief on those downward staccatos. You have to be able to do justice to Donna Anna, the Queen of the Night and Fiordiligi to sing this aria.

    • @mid-zz6ct
      @mid-zz6ct Před 4 lety +3

      @Dragan Vidic: All you do is go from CZcams video to CZcams video disrespectfully criticizing world-class singers when you, yourself, are a nobody. Just get off of CZcams already. Everyone has grown very tired of your nasty, ridiculous antics.

    • @highbaritone
      @highbaritone Před 4 lety +1

      2751mid obviously gets some satisfaction. Like road rage.

    • @baritonebynight
      @baritonebynight Před 3 lety

      You've got bad grammar and don't have Sutherland's talent. So there.

  • @T37163
    @T37163 Před 4 lety

    The faster you run the better, but that is in racing not in music. All wrong in here....awful.

    • @highbaritone
      @highbaritone Před 4 lety +3

      Jose Costa I’ve heard this live a few times and this is the speed I have heard before. I guess I was just unlucky to hear them all wrong. Thank you for your post.

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 Před rokem +2

      ​@@highbaritone, mi dispiace per te...la Joan e' una furia travolgente. Meglio di così non l'ha cantata nessuna e ci sta bene anche il Do finale acuto alla faccia dei mozartiani e degli stupidi filologi. Ho visto spesso in teatro la Sutherland e chi non l'ha vista e sentita dal vivo non puo' dire nulla.

    • @misanthropelife
      @misanthropelife Před 8 měsíci

      @@fabriziogarzi9892he is defending sutherland sir..

  • @user-fj9mn2yp9r
    @user-fj9mn2yp9r Před 8 měsíci

    Чего она орёт????????????