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FINAL FANTASY 7 REMAKE WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2020
- FOR ME FINAL FANTASY 7 REMAKE WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT! THIS VIDEO IS A CRITIC OF THE GAME AND IS FILLED WITH SPOILERS!
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN MY OPINION I WARN YOU TO PLAY THE GAME FIRST IF YOU WOULD LIKE NOTHING SPOILED!
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- THINGS I FORGOT TO MENTION IN THIS VIDEO -
- Other things I liked:
- The fact that when you change weapons, it shows in the cutscenes and has materia slots I think it looks great
- Barret's character and the way his bond with Cloud changes over the course of the game
- Graphically, lots of the Shinra building looks gorgeous and several of the floors were beautifully reimagined
- The way that the summons look, I found the models beautiful and impressive
- The jukebox idea for the music was good
- Other things I disliked:
- Handjob scene was awkward and not good for Cloud’s character
- Although the jukebox idea was good, the music you got wasn't that great mostly. Some was okay but not motivating to listen to
- Aerith somehow knows that Sephiroth is the evilest person ever and needs to be stopped without any explanation of who he is
- For new players, Sephiroth isn't explained at all yet is one of the Final bosses, which makes sense for fan service but not for new players
- A few strange uneasy moments between Aerith and Marlene that are not properly explained
- Not much character development and background given on the new characters they decided to introduce
- Leslie seems like he could be a main character in a Final Fantasy game. I feel as though his character design and story was wasted in this
- The Barret 'dying' bait and switch was kind of pointless
- No Blood, which was probably to do with rating so that's understandable
- Zack's voice actor.........
- The monkey bar segments felt out of place and it looked strange seeing Cloud and Tifa doing them
- Although the summons looked great, they had very little focus on screen so you couldn't see them that well for that long
- Chadley again, feels as though he should be in a different Final Fantasy game. The same one as Leslie.
- In terms of the graphical issues, perhaps they are planning a remastered version of the remake for PS5 which is a giant cash grab
- Farming to level up felt kind of awkward at most parts of the game and the VR and Arena Battles felt like a cheap way to resolve that
- RED XIII IS A GUEST CHARACTER
just so you know you are able to run away from fight unless it's a boss fight or something like that
@@rdot21 I tried to climb a ladder in the slums and it wouldn't let me until I beat the enemies
@@RandamuSho yep certain fights you can't run from, just like in the original
@@rdot21 fair enough man, will remove that point
I was going to say Cloud does not get a handjob in the game till I realise he technically does.
Ya they seemed like they put no effort in explaining anything at the end. What do the wispers want? Aerith just shakes her head and everyone goes ok well will just drop that.
Some people have mention they go avatar him because he wants to remake time, but that is not a reason. If Barret actually died yes that is a better reason, but Sephiroth is never to be shown as anything more then he and Cloud have a past. For all we as the player know is that they had a hate date.
I would agree that much if the Jukebox music remixes are not very good and I think the music overall is underwhelming. You can find better remixes on CZcams.
Showing Zack to me just makes me fell like they arw just going to do anoth compilation of games. Either Zack will have some DLC to him or a Crisi Core 2 what if..? I really hope they do not do the whole time traveling/dimensional shift between Zack and Cloud save time travel and alternative universes for the Chrono series.
I do find it hilarious that people keep falling off of ledges. It is like they said people like it when Cloud falls from reactor 5 why not put him in others in instances were people can be saved from falling.
One thing I found interesting about the characters is the game does a good job of making me like all the characters more, especially Tifa. With the exception of Aerith which the Remake makes me actually like her less.
This remake was dead to me, the moment they started shoving Sephiroth in our faces so early in the game.
No mystique. No dread. No ominous build up. Just up front key jangling.
The vanity you described is basically Tetsuya Nomura in a nutshell, he is all flash and no substance.
"Spinoff" is too much credit. This is a bad fanfiction.
Thing that hurts about this, is they're planning to remake 8 and 9..... and time travel, timelines, etc were FF8's thing! So they should've just saved these concepts for the game where they could've integrated without feeling jarring!
What sounds better? Ultamecia is sending spirits back through time to try to change the future/uphold what she views as the correct timeline?
Or, "ooooo the timeghosts are the original fans! Oooooo!"?
I don't trust them with 9 after this.
@@jase276 Truly, I just quit playing FF7R halfway through and now someone said FF9 (my favorite PS1 game) is getting a remake? I wish they'd hire a writer and make a game that's actually good and stop making stupid fanfics out of people's favorite games from their childhood.
I find it funny that the part of the game they wanted to expand was effectively the tutorial section of the entirety of ff7, which wasn't even half of the first disc. This is hilarious.
Glad to see there's og fans feels the same way. I agree with you with all the points. Unfortunately it feels like the new generation just want rainbows and sunshine and everything has to end like fairytales
looks like the remake the original fans wanted id restricted to the pc version with mods. I modded my ff7 for pc and its pretty amazing it does need even more work though & I think it would be a perfect alternative to this re-work on ps4.
Old fans can’t adapt to new play styles
to be clear, there's definitely huge numbers of people who played the original in the 90s and loved the remake. Yes, a 100% accurate copy with updated graphics would have been cool in some ways, but equally would have been incredibly unsatisfying. Seeing all the detail of the environments in new modern detail, but with no actual ability to interact with it and explore it more deeply? Boring. Plus, it seems clear that the title 'remake' is a bit of a double meaning. It's a remake in the way people took it to mean in some ways, but also seems to be alluding to Sephiroth's plan in the game which timeline wise is clearly meant to be after advent children.
@@jayunogaming on god all I hear about how the combat sucks like how? You actually get to be apart of the fighting instead of pressing an option like attack or magic and just let the characters do all the rest for you. Like to me that sounds boring as hell 😂😂 must be a skill issue idk
@@GooseGaming999 Why are articulate criticisms often reduced to skill issues? Someone disliked things about the game for specific reasons but that's just because they suck at the game? Why not actually rebut the criticism rather then resort to mudslinging?
Truth is , they wasted two years of development time due to them outsourcing it instead of it being developed in house and it ended up being scrapped and moved in house like it should have been from the get go.
They wanted to pull a Resident Evil 2 Remake but underestimated how much work ,time and resources it would require. The reason they reused assets is because it's all they had time for.
Square lied. They lied to long time fans who wanted a faithful adaptation of the original.
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@@RandamuSho Also I wanted to say I agree about the Arbiters of Fate being a huge mistake but for different reasons.
Even looking past the meta-comentary ,it goes against the theme of FF7.
The OG Final Fantasy games had themes with its narrative that drew players in.
FF 4s theme was redemption.
FF 10's theme was religion and politics, family and sacrifice.
FF7s story was about life,death and overcoming grief by putting the past behind yourself.
All of the main characters lost someone or something prescious to them and went through grief in their own way.
Sakaguchi wrote the original story as a way of coping with the death of his mother during the early stages of the original game.
That theme's message is now muddled with the typical "fate" and "destiny" bs plotlines that's been regurgitated far too many times in videogames/anime to the point of nauseum.
To remove that aspect of it is not only insulting to the fans but also insulting Sakaguchi's original vision of the game.
To allow certain characters to live,kill certain characters off only to immediately have them brought back to life cheapens the whole damn point.
Death had a real impact in the original. When a character died, that was it.
It felt real. Now , to even question if Jessie's alive after seeing Biggs and Wedge and Zack survives makes me glad I skipped the remake. I won't bother playing it unless it's heavily discounted or I get it second hand.
One final note; Never apologize for criticizing someone's work. I'm sure game development isn't a easy job, but at the same token, people pay money for this.
You're not satisfied with what you've purchased, you have every bit of right to voice your opinion. And if they can't handle that, they're in the wrong industry because games are art and the hardest part of being an artist is the critics.
@@URFTBOUND4LIFE well said! totally agree! try debating a remake fan, they will never conceed anything. one guy attacked the original when I made a critisism about the removal of the carnage at shinra tower. he just says "well aeris didn't have blood when she died" uggh 🙄
RE2 remake took the cheap route in regards to A/B scenarios. Overall I enjoyed it much more than FF7 Remake because it was an actual remake, which FF7 Remake was not, but it still had a pretty big shortcoming itself. It is not the gold standard for remakes, that honor still goes to RE1 remake.
Re2 remake was amazing. Still replay it while ff7 remake is collecting dust. Tried to get platinum but I get bored
The honeybee inn is supposed to be a sleazy brothel a part of painting midgar and shinra as even more bad. They completely sanitised it so that it adds nothing to the setting. It's not the same place at all.
My dude, they sanitised the whole game. I understood it halfway through my playthrough, not even playing OG FF7, and didn't touch the remake since.
I know someone who is a huge Lord of the Ring fan and he watched rings of power. He said rings of power was like if they remade the Titanic movie and the ship made it to its destination. That's how I feel about everyone surviving in this game, when the og game was about loss and death.
Yes it was brutal. Being a child seeing Biggs, Wedge, Jessie's death left you feeling they'd still be alive somehow. It was unbelievable to me as a 10 year old kid. The same was true for Aerith, despite the fact I KNEW that was coming.
It's garbage man. We're in this malaise as a culture/society. But Japan is entirely separate, and it seems like it's happening for them as well.
Great art and storytelling is rare, and we're in a society where art is so common and prevalent. Everyone want's to be a "creator", and can be. If you're a good looking woman you can act suggestive and be a creator. It's a hollow and vapid time, and I feel like I should have seen it coming and yet I didn't.
@@drownthepoor dude I've been looking through videos depicting FF7R plot (and I thought it was garbage halfway through), and I can totally relate to your comment. They can't no more depict great evil in media nor great good.. everything should be dumbed down to middle, averageness to appeal to an average person who only can accept an average, non-tragic and not too great outcome. What a great depression among art.
keeping anyone alive that previously died negates the sacrifice they made in the OG story. it really takes any emotional investment out of the game.
I can finally understand star wars fans. We are now brothers.
The same thing happened with FF7 that has happened to all other stories. They become fanfictions of themselves. It happened with Harry Potter and LOTR and many other franchises. The reason the later Harry Potter movies were terrible is because they tried to surprise people who knew the story by omitting important source material to invent amusing content -_-
... but how else will the director get to show the audience what a creative "genius" he is... /S
@@notme-vg5bd I think that's right. The director doesn't want to glorify someone else's content; he/she wants to make something that is uniquely theirs.
At first i also thought this would be a game i would replay multiple times but then the changes got worse and worse but the thing that really ruined it was the freaking ghosts, who thought copying some braindead Marvel time travel/multiverse story into FF7 would be a good idea 😑
Dude I love turn-based battles! I love the camera angles (particularly FFVIII's camera animations) and how clear the action is. That's the thing with action-based battles, sometimes you just can't understand what the hell is going on. There is a mess of numbers on the screen and you just can't easily visually read what is happening. Whereas in turn-based battles, things happen one after the other and the camera ALWAYS shows you clearly the results of your actions and the enemy's actions. So no, you're not the only one who likes this kind of system.
I’ve been arguing this exact point with my friend who loves the remake! Just seeing a load of numbers flashing up not knowing how much a single attack does completely ruins it for me, far too chaotic and exhausting
@@Highfrequencydj bruh fr🤦♂️.. I'm glad dq 11 still stay with turn based
Not to mention, with turn based fighting you can actually see the special moves and summons. It doesn't just whizz by as your button mashing trying to combo, or dodge or run around. I can't even enjoy the special effects anymore cuz of this constant button mashing, dodging and rolling around...
@Highfrequencydj I don't have adhd, therefore I don't need to mash attack in between my turns...
Strategy based gameplay will always have a place and it creates a certain role playing experience you don't get elsewhere.
Square themselves don't understand why they were successful.
turn based is so behind tho, like the only turn based game imo to exist is LAD: Infinite Wealth only cuz it's so fluent, that old FF turn based combat would be shit today for sure or only attract nerds
I’m a zoomer, I started with Remake and enjoyed it.. then I went back and played the original, taking it slow over the course of a few months, and now I’m a practically a purist!
I think that the original game had a ton of intricacies and character details that have been totally diluted or remove with Compilation.
What's a Zoomer? That young people slang for race car driver? Good for you for driving a race car and also going out of your way to enjoy the original, even if it is mechanically a little clunky by today's standards.
@@MountainHomeJerrelI believe its the generation under after Millenial. 😊
@@MountainHomeJerrel Gen Z.... Zoomer.... c'mon man, it's been 2 decades, you been under a rock?
@@jase276 hmmmm... Haven't heard of it. It's news to me!
The director created the phantoms or whatever they are as a metaphor for the fans and some of the squenix fanboys are saying things like "you are the kind of person the director had in mind when he created the phantoms, don't you realize this?", and they say it like they have discovered some deep truth knowledge, a gem of wisdom. So, they think creating a shield against criticism in the form of a character that represent the critics is deep? Really? It's insulting. The cheapest way to create a shield against critics. Something that I would expect from fan fiction, not a professional.
Sounds like cope
The remake was an abomination in a pretty skin suit. They sht on the original fans with the whispers, cat finding side quests, and the FKNG time travel story. Then, as the final cherry on top of a sht cake, paid yuffie DLC. I'll never give another dime to square. I hope they go bankrupt.
Let me see if I can encapsulate the problem with the boss battles. They're more scripted boss battles, rather than something that takes a lot of damage in general. Sephy Seph is a good example. I was stomping him with zero difficulty, but there was several times where due to the scripting of the boss battle, it dragged on for far too long. Interruptions within organic gameplay is annoying.
YES! This.
also;
the fact that there are times that we cannot dodge or parry the attacks without loosing health when we want to play with single character, which is bs.
the screen is overoccupied. as if the combat it self isnt sparkly enough, we also have to with healthbars, strike number signs, big blue aim symbol on the enemy etc. it really killing the experience and prevent me from enjoying the coreography. and appearantly this game dont have a ''no hud'' option(i dont have the game but this game is around for years now, yet nobody in youtube have use that mode so far so im assuming thats the case)
free roam is limited and overwhelming. there are cut scenes that cloud perform a big ass jumps, and yet gameplay's script making us dependant on using ladders, catwalks, hanging up on the ceilings and lamns(even more boring if i might add) or using robotic arms to make ways. aside from the regular combat, the only thrilling mission of this game was the motorcycle missions
Exactly. The boss fights are just easy ass bosses that take like sometimes up to half an hour just to beat. It's so dumb. They feel way too long and annoying to play.
The dance scene is also kinda lame. Cloud has never really shown that he has a knack for dancing. And furthermore it's really WAY out of his character. You don't just start pulling out those "Magic Mike" moves on a whim. It takes a lot of training of which there was none. It just feels stupid. It's a payback without the build up. Although...if you jump like threefold you height in a flashy cutscene, but then can't clear a tiny ledge to get to a materia several minutes later...this kind of critisism seems really excessive. Why logic when you can Nomura.
LOOOL yep. Well said dude. I agree. Again, I feel it's going full 'video game' because it is a video game but it breaks immersion and takes away from the character for the sake of a cheap laugh.
I'd also like to add that if you're going to add a musical number, it had damn well better be good. This was probably the most generic ass Mulan Rouge wannabe song ever.
this is disney ff7 brah, happy roadtrip garbage with dancing cloud feminist aeris lmfao
Meh, my parents made me take a bunch of dancing classes as a kid and spent a lot of time clubbing when younger, can still bust out despite not having trained or gone dancing in over a decade and becoming a grumpy misanthrope
We’ll said. I’m just glad they didn’t give him a pair of tits and call him they.
The story feels like a bad fan fiction.
I hated what they did with the summons in this game.
I was only able to finish the game a couple days ago. I got it day one but dropped it once I realized they were changing the context of the story.
I wish that I never picked it back up. The ending was directly insulting to the players that wanted FF7's grand story to be realized with modern technology.
It also seems like I disagree with most people about the music. The songs are overproduced and tend to drown out the central theme to each song. Some of the music still works, very well in a some cases, but overall it just feels all over the place. The music loses it's emotional punch and doesn't work as a tool for storytelling the same way the original's did.
First of all respect for making this.
I've been a couple years late because my disappointment in all these franchises that want money from old fans but refuse to do them justice and blame them or flat out lie about the success of twisting IP's has been so insane.
FF7R was actually one of the heart breaks that all most had me making videos myself.
Because I'm so tired of this formula. Fans will ask for a thing. Creators will cater to it. But by cater to it I mean put a label on it, do something so out of the scope of what they said, and then be shocked or blind to the reaction.
It would be better if they just didn't do it all and only continued with new IP's where they can be brave and new and innovative.
If they don't want money from exploiting established fandoms they should just make new shit.
Boohoo
@@ErenDenizMert🤡
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 Cope. Remake is a remake
They don't make new shit because they know no one will buy it. So, instead, they ride off of the clout and coattails of established works and ruin them in the process because their egos are bigger than their intelligence and talent.
one of my first thoughts when i played this for the first time recently was "wtf, these look like tony hawk's pro skater NPCs" lol.
yes the whispers were us, the company hates the old fans and yes I say hate because it's quite obvious what they were trying to say. Honestly I think they purposefully lied to fans to make sure they played it and make sure they were disappointed. they wanted to give us a big middle finger on purpose, it's not just a little insulting it's crossing the line for me. You may think i'm exxagerating but these corporations hate the little guys and they don't care about anyone only $$$$. anyone who get in the way of money is a pest
It's sad that this might unfortunately be true :c sucks that we can make people like that rich by supporting something that they did (not even them but talented hard working people of the past under the same company name) and then they can potentially do something as spiteful as that to us.
@@RandamuSho my jaw was on the floor when I saw the end, I always knew it probably wouldn't be as good as the og. But I never imagined it would be this bad, and on purpose makes it even worse.
@@seanmills7586 well all we can hope now is some dedicated fans make their own remake based off the original on pc! they have already made amazing mods for the original ^^
@@RandamuSho we can hope 😀
"these corporations hate the little guys and they don't care about anyone only $$$$"
ironically, that is pretty much the plot of FF7. i think this is why it was such a big hit, it really resonated with the mass public. totally relatable.
After playing Yakuza Like a Dragon, it’s a great example of how a modern turn based game can offer. These devs need to wake up on the genre.
Yep I think it’s time to learn to play without the turn based
People: Turn based mechanic is a thing of a past and must be abolished
Also people: Persona 5, Dragon Quest XI, Octopath traveler...
People: Remake staying close to the source material is lame, no wow factor, no umph, no nothing
Also them people: Resident Evil 2 remake: sooooo gooood uh (fondling them nips)
People: Wow. FF7R battle mechanic is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also people: I really don't like how this system lacks some crucial elements like idk...an ability to Jump maybe. or to dodge...Or a good AI...
😂😂😂 you should make a video on this too dude you got some amazing points!
Hey you can dodge, It just doesnt give you any I frames and its useless
@@scootboot69420 i frames are stupid, dodging works great, if you actually dodge lol.
Baldur's Gate 3 sweeps game awards and is turned based
It feels like this game was made entirely to appease the Zeriths. The fact of the matter is that shit drives me crazy. She dated him when she was 16, then he disappears for five years, and then, when he finally does remerge, he is killed shortly there after. Fact of the matter is in real life no 16 year old is going to wait five years, or put themselves in cold storage. She moved on. They need to let that ship go, because it’s literally going to destroy the legacy of Final Fantasy seven.
It’s even worse because Zack and Aerith’s whole relationship is a retcon. In the original Japanese translations, Aerith mentions Zack as a crush, and when he disappeared she says “I thought he ran off with some other girl.”
And on the back of the truck, Zack doesn’t actually mention Aerith, instead he talks of multiple girls he’s hooked up with, and asks, “Do all girls stay with their mothers?”
OG Zack was a womanizing asshole, not the Shonen protagonist he’s painted as nowadays
@@hollyshock8400 lmfao, the sequel shined a light on how many sad neckbeards still lurk in the fanbase.
Why would i spend $75 on a game where the writers see me as the enemy? I'm getting sick of these vanity projects where people either use my identity as a political vehicle or talk down to the customers who made them who they are today?
That can end at any point.
The combat totally killed it for me. I'm so tired of all the hack and slash games. There are so many of them. BRING BACK TURN BASED FIGHTING. 😫
Press X to win and sometimes cast aqualung. Boring 🤣
@Wolf 😂😂😂Fat boy that's what your mum says.
I don’t think there are many of them that stand out
So you'd rather pick an option and have the characters do the rest for you 😂😂 i like being a part of the fighting, personally i never got into the turn based games seems boring but that's just my opinion. Like yea imma press attack and just sit back watch them fight for me, I don't see what's fun about it.
@@GooseGaming999 do you watch anime? It's the same premise, I want a bit of strategy and planning and buffing and debuffing, being able yo see and enjoy the spells I'm casting, and then planning a few steps ahead. Hack and slash is not relaxing, and is to frantic. Plus. Final fantasy was a turn based RPG in its inception. So they threw away their core fans who built up the name to chase new fans from other action rpgs genres. Anyhow, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, I stopped playing final fantasy after ffx 12 ( first ff game I didn't compete) then it was lightning and those sequels (that became the first ff that I quit mid game) final fantasy is dead. This is just ff in name, but not experience in my opinion. I'll stick to octopath traveler, persona, trails of cold steel/ chained echoes/ sea of stars, and the like a dragon.. much much better games in my opinion than any of the mailline ff games since final fantasy x. (The last real final fantasy) cheers 🍻
I agree with most things you said. I hated the ghost. I stop playing it about 20 hours in. The original FF7 is my favorite game of all times.
I can deal with alot. But the Heartless or ghost of fate just pissed me off. Only thing I thought of was Damn you Tetsuya Nomura
Yep they break the immersion but for some reason people love that :S and praise the subversion of this "remake" being remake the timeline. I have no clue how they can look at the whisperers and think that it immerse fans better in the world of FF VII nor how people can think that after having played the game. For new players the whisperers should be even more confusing as they are trying to keep a storyline that is not told in the game itself.
This so called "Remake" was SQUARE's way of giving the fans of the original the middle-finger.
its a sequel ffs. so many of you have demonstrated your tardation, and tbh its hilarious.
@@DellikkilleD Advent Children was the sequel. THIS was suppose to be a remake.
@@soul71000 no, it wasnt. they have been quite straight forward about this being one of a series of sequels. It already * has* multiple sequels. Not their fault you lack literacy lmfao.
@@DellikkilleD What does the first part say "REMAKE".
@@DellikkilleD Regardless of what it wants to be, it's trash. The writing is bad. A sequel that is still overshadowed by the original, bravo. Enjoy your Cloud x Sephiroth fanfic
I am SOOOO happy I held off on buying this game because I just knew the director would have to meddle with it but even I didn't expect this level of train wreck. Ghosts of fate - LOL what a bunch of kingdom hearts garbage. GARBAGE.
baldur's gate 3 prooves that turn base games is not dead, just games with bad storylines
What really bothered me was how mundane everything looks in this remake. People look like normal real life people, buildings are just generic brick houses.
The original FF/ had this steamy cyberpunk feel to it, yet the remake looks so mundane and boring. If you look at the cyberpunk 2020, they really went the extra mile with the design choices and the night city really feels like a futuristic cyberpunk city.
Remake Midgar just looks like any Industrial town anywhere in the world.
They had this chance to build a fantastical futuristic cyberpunk city full of awe and wonder, but instead we got this mundane boring town.
Combat is also so streamlined and boring. I feel that every FF game since FF9 has been more and more streamlined and stupefied to the high culmination of 13's auto battle, where you no longer even play the game
I remember pre-ordering FF13, my first ever pre-order, and the game played itself. I got a refund that day 😅.
I ended up picking it up again for 5 bucks.
Man, the opening to 13 was such a slog. Not only was the story and writing terrible and boring, but the combat was braindead. I had to quit and just watch a playthrough on youtube. I can suffer through a game that has terrible gameplay if the writing/story is good and I can suffer through a game that has bad writing if the gameplay is good, but FF13 managed to be shite at both ends.
Facts. All facts. The game was terrible. An utter disservice to the original. All those reviewers that gave it 9s and 10s clearly never played the original and didn’t want to give it bad reviews considering it’s a remake of one of the greatest games ever made
I sold my new N64 in summer 1997 specifically so I could buy FF7. I reserved my copy at Software Etc and wore my free Cloud tshirt all the time for 2 years. It is, to this day, the most hyped I have ever been about any game, any new THING at all. It was a beautiful masterpiece and I was absolutely in love with the powerful themes of accepting and learning to live with loss and grief and I must have spent 300 hrs at least uncovering every secret and exploring every inch of the world. I wasn’t disappointed and the PS1 is my favorite system to this day. This game carries deep rooted feelings for millions of people who grew up with the original 25 years ago. This remake gave me pause when I first watched gameplay footage and I had a sinking feeling that it wouldn’t do the original justice, so I never played it. It seems I made the right choice but it’s sad that this is how such a beloved, iconic and generation-defining experience has been cheapened and degraded for “modern audiences”. Excellent video, sir, hope you gain a larger audience and wish you the best
This is the kind of story and passion that I wanted to share my opinion for. I've never seen a comment section where people write so much about how they feel. I really don't think square enix understand the magnitude of how much they let a significant portion of their FF7 fanbase down BADLY and its unfortunate because the passion is beautiful and the love is there. A lot of us just wanted them to stay nice and close to the source material but at almost every turn they could they made changes and also seemingly changed direction perhaps for budget reasons? Who knows. All I will say though seeing new comments come to this video even today maybe means that one day in the distant future when its a lot easier to dev beautful visual games for less experienced user we could maybe create a beautiful fan made remake that is for all of us that ever wanted it. The modding of pc FF7 shows how the community is capable just need the tools! ❤ Thanks for your comment
@@RandamuSho I would be ALL IN if there was a faithful fan-made remake! Unfortunately, it seems with each passing year the types of games I used to enjoy are sadly no longer being produced, with the occasional gem every year or so. Squaresoft was, for at least 6 years (1994-2000) a company I never questioned and FF6, FF7, Chrono Trigger, Xenogears and several other titles were and still are some of my favorite games of all time. Iconic. Thought-provoking. Wondrous entertainment. It’s really never been the same since and that’s okay I think, I got to be there when it was truly at the pinnacle. Thank you very much for the reply, best fortunes and you found a new sub 🤘
then cry about ig lol remake and rebirth are both fire games, nobody cares about a game 25 years ago, everything is modernized now, it's 2024😂
I actually very much agree with many of your arguments. Now 3 years after this video was uploaded FF16 was yet again a disappointment and FF7 Rebirth is on the horizon. As a passionate Squaresoft fan of the late 90s early 2000s it really hurts to see what FF, something I once loved become what it is today. I think FF7 Rebirth will be the first FF in over a decade that I don't pre order/ buy day one. I just can't get excited anymore, I've been through this hype cycle too many times at this point. The last truly fantastic FF for me was 12 and that is almost 17 years ago already.
I'm a huge fan of the original, I'm 45 now and spent most of my youth on the original game, so I too was excited for the remake, and I have to say, I agree with most of what you said. One point I feel I need to make and correct people on is the original wasn't turn based, it was an active time battle system. Things didn't always stop in combat and you could be attacked whilst choosing options. Ffx was turn based and even that could be manipulated by using haste or slow or just switching characters. Also, sorry, but I couldn't make it to the end of your video, you possibly had covid here and the constant coughing and smacking of your lips was to triggering for me and had to switch off, but from what I watched I could see you were as disheartened as I was at this remake. A giant fluff piece of a 40-50hr game that only gets you JUST outside midgar when in the original you could clear midgar in like 2hrs if you speedrun it. Cash grab too the max this is, so the next part will be 40hrs long and just be Cosmo canyon?!
Yea i agree this game is just massively over fluffed, my excitement for the rest of the game is gone, I can't see paying for 2 more parts that I'll just be disappointed about, honestly they should just finish the whole project and release at one time, they need to take notes from fromsoft, elden ring did it perfectly, everything in one clean executed package, final fantasy 7 , in my opinion lost that dark despair feel the original had, it all feels forced now, not loving the direction this iconic title is heading.
Technical stuff like great graphics, voice acting or orchestral soundtrack can't compensate for the very soul of the game, which is the story and the atmosphere.
They messed around with that way too much and that is unforgivable.
OH MAN! I wonder what your going to have to say about "Rebirth". The story is even worse than ReMake. The time travel convoluted whisper nonsense is hear to stay. The bad writing and story telling returns. It's real bad.
Really? Thought it was gonna be good
Just finished rebirth and I have to agree! It's so bad in some parts that you even question if this is a real AAA game!
Just saw this. There's alot of truth here, painful, but true. I feel there's alot of fluff/padding, and alot of it is unnecessary. Not many "fans" ready to hear yet. Keep up the good work.
I've been doing a lot of research this last week on reading and watching reviews and discussions on this game alone. A commonality that I've noticed is that any negative review is heavily rated down by a good contingency of young, impressionable or simply over-dedicated fans, whether a review is subjective, objective or just pure opinion. Constant downvotes left and right. I guess fandoms are now cargo cults with discourse and discussions having gone out the window, we get to see 'consoomer's.
Appreciate the review. It was actually very amusing reading up that Nomura didn't know he was directing the game for an entire year and that he wanted to turn it into a musical. I'm going to put down a tenner that the rest of the "remake" will involve the butterfly effect/chaos theory reimagining with only the outline of the main narrative surviving the new changes.
I agree with your perspective man. I am all for alternate opinions and different generational viewpoints just wish it was more civalised & mature & friendly.
23:50 the cosplay analogy is pretty spot on. Great video overall, as a huge fan of the original this fan fiction is worse than anything I could've imagined. Now we'll never get a proper remake. I'm not even getting part 2 after this
I could've forgiven a lot of things in this game if they didn't alter the story. But by altering the story - the main part of a rpg - it killed things completely for me.
I will not be buying the next installment in this remake unless they follow the original story faithfully, but I know that'll never happen.
The worst part of this is that we've begged them to remake this game for decades now.
With the majority of remakes of film and games we're "experiencing" for many years now it's the ownership of the IP trying to use a safety formula for profit.
Movies and games have become so expensive that new franchises and concepts are risky business, and they use these beloved IP's as a way to minimize their exposure with the guarantee of the fanbase. Also, the existing fanbase alone in-fact sort of sells it to a new larger fanbase.
However, with Square I don't think it's quite that simple.
*I did enjoy the remake of the shinra building. It's more of a museum now. Its a nice modern touch.*
And the fact bosses in the OG game that you could mop the floor with being a actual big deal now.
Great video. I had a lot of the same concerns. My biggest fear is that Red XIII won't be a playable party member due to him being an 'animal' character. I also think Square-Enix will make Vincent and Yuffie into paid DLC characters. This game has been a major bummer for me.
thanks for the comment man! I hope they allow us to use red :c I really am not holding high hopes for the next games but theres still a chance they can at least improve from this first one
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@@Shadow-gm9ct I love posts like that. Where a company is so scummy people can predict the bull well in advance.
@@silverfang215square enix has been awful since the merger. FF9 & Saga Frontier were the last good games to come out of that camp. It’s BEEN over
The truth won't win you many likes in this world, but the truth is the truth. Not many can handle it.
Wow nice comment ❤
I wish the fans would wake up and understand their mistake.
FF7 Remake in a nutshell:
Destiny!
Destiny!
Jesse being kinda thirsty though....
Destiny!
Destiny!
Oh no, Biggs and Wedge dead! Or not, anyway...
Destiny!
Estuans interius ira vehementi
SEPHIROTH!
Destiny!
Destiny!
Estuans interius ira vehementi
Sephiroth!
Destiny!
Destiny!
Meanwhile me: Look what they did to my boy. (Rude)
I agree with you. This game is such a misleading disappointment. I like the game til I got to chapter 18, where the story takes a nose dive. There's no stakes or sense of urgency. All the mysteries of the original game are gone. The important moments of the game will mean nothing since nothing means anything and friendship is magic. Watch, they are going to make Sephiroth a good guy; he is just misunderstood. Like how can they follow the original story when these characters defeat destiny itself? I just have a feeling this remake episodes are not going to last long...
i talked to a fan of the remake who had the audacity to tell me that thinking sephiroth was the main villain of the original was not true. he says it was jenova so it makes sense that seph now suddenly turns good. 🙄 like wow they go as far as denying reality lol.
@@seanmills7586 this is what happens when they allow talentless hacks to rewrite a 24 year old story for money. Where does this logic come from? Sephiroth is the true villain of the game. Yeah, he lost his mind when he found the truth, but he is still the villain of the game. I can't with remake people. I no longer support anything with this remake. I would not be surprised if they make Sephiroth a misunderstood good guy because friendship is power and everyone deserves a happy ending. My goodness, I am sorry you have to deal with that.
@@estania lol the arguements they make are funny, they can't admit one thing is wrong with the reboot. the disney happy happy shit is cringey, it's not realistic. tradgedy happens, people die and life is hard. that's what was special about the og, it really took those themes to heart and sqeenix ruined it.
@@seanmills7586 I think remake people are only fans of characters than storytelling. Also, they are loyal to SE so they can't admit when SE makes any mistake. Yes, tragedies happen all the time; it's life. Not everything is Disney and deserve to have a happy ending. Yes, the themes life and grief are important aspects to FF7. One of the reason why 7 is so iconic. The blatant disregard for these themes is insulting. Also, it makes the story flat and uninteresting. I am not invested in the remake characters. I could care less what happens to them and their time line journey. I hate stuff with time travel because it is such a cop out. Nothing means much anymore. The moments that happens in the OG such as Cloud remembering his true self is going to be less impactful cause of this timeline.
@@estania completely agree, i think part 2 ( unless they tell nomura to chill out) will be pretty ridiculous. We are gonna have zach back, possibly seph as a good guy ( puke) and maybe even mickey mouse who knows what could happen 😀 lmfao
I've only just discovered your video. I completely agree with practically everything you've said. Particularly your point about the turn based combat. I feel though that this game is not for us (fans who played the original at release), it's more for younger gamers who want to experience FF7 but can't possibly bear to suffer the original game.
I knew as soon as I heard about this game that it would end up like this. I'm just glad this isn't FF8 which is my favourite of the series.
Personally I would have been happy with the game exactly the same as the original with upgraded graphics.
Splitting the game up was always going to be problematic. You have to give the story a satisfying end at a point where there was none. I'm presuming also that your items/stats, things you've built up on this game are going to be gone on the next one.
I can't say strongly enough how much I want turn based combat back in Final Fantasy games. For me that was part of it's core identity. I liked random encounters and having a different screen for combat vs exploration. These modern FF games have completely evolved away from what I loved about the series.
21:32 The city in Advent Children was actually called "Edge"... just right outside of Midgar. Midgar was in ruins. But I agree with you as far as us players not experiencing much more of Midgar than we did the original.
I truly just wanted the original game, but beautiful.
Thanks to 7th Heaven, NinoHD and Echo-S I can play a true FF7 "remake"
The big problem with remaking games like FF7 in 3D, is that it is a gargantuan undertaking to do it and also do it right. I would love this.. tech demo.. if it only was 7 hours long, with all of the filler thrown out.
Why can't these modern developers make a faithful remake anymore, they always have to change things like they think their new ideas are better. FF7, RE2 and RE3 remakes all strayed from the source material to their detriment.
The remake was a promise... left unfulfilled.
The cross dressing thing should be completely optional. It never made sense why Cloud couldn't just bust in and defeat all Don Corneo people.
For reals. Agenda? Idk
Agenda. The government and corporations are trying to push LGBT on the masses
if Cloud simply busted in first, Don Corneo would've been alerted to Cloud's presence & Corneo wouldve had a chance to hide/escape, considering Cloud wouldn't immediately know where to find Corneo in the mansion. By catching Corneo up-close with his pants down (literally), Cloud can guarantee he can trap Corneo.
I had no idea that people hated the remake cause I loved it so much I never looked up the bad reviews or rants.
I deleted it half way through the first part. Horrible game.
Great video. The situation would have been much less of a disaster if Square was honest and told us this wasn't a remake but a multiverse reimagining with time travel and a chance to save Aerith. Being up front would have prepared people for the changes.
I mostly agreed with everything you said but I'm blown away by what you said about the Sephiroth mandela effect. I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER SEPHIROTH SAYING HELLO CLOUD!!!! And now it's gone 🤯🤯🤯
I KNOW RIGHT!? weirdest thing ever, thats a few other people now I've confirmed that with! I guess we're in a different time line like these FF7 characters! haha
@@RandamuSho I wish we were in the timeline where Squaresoft never merged with Enix 🤣
@@dason5408 dude you're so right it was literally all downhill from that point haha 😂
@@RandamuSho Yup..😭
The final fantasy series has been bad since FF 13. That was the last one I bought and it just happened to be the 1st major new title that was fully produced by Square Enix, not Squaresoft. The company has been bad since the merger.
Amen Tony!
FF 14 and Yoshi P are amazing the series is fine.
@Tony I'd say after 10 things went downhill.
FF7R pissed me off a lot.
I’m with you
I tried to replay it and lasted about 5 minutes. Dire! Terrible game.
In fact, I played FF8 instead.
It's good to hear an opinion from someone who is that passionate about the original, there were some great points made in this video. I agree that it is a great loss for people to be able to play as every character except for Red XIII. As much as it is great to always try and make things unique, I'm not sure how good and fair it is to change the childhoods and realities of people who owe a lot of who they are now to experiencing this game, and how impactful the original story was to them. I'm sure what they are doing now is amazing, but I definitely agree that some people like yourself just wanted to see the original game in the light of whats today technologically possible.
yeah the Red 13 thing really bothered me. :c
Thanks a lot for that comment, means a lot ^^ I appreciate what you said there and it's so true. That's why I think they should have done 2 kinds of games, a remake of the original sticking close and then this spin off story.
@@RandamuSho There's still hope for two different games, maybe after this they decide to remaster the original.
@@suncanana2806 That would be amazing if they did!!!
@@RandamuSho Red is understandable because he shows up so late. Best way to not be disappointed is not to expect anything.
@@andrewcarlton6196 he's a main controllable character in the origina and there is already a mod save that allows you to control him, he was half made but they decided to scrap him being playable in the end weak decision in my opinion & thanks I'm fully aware of how to not be disappointed in things. ^^
If I'd describe this game in a single word I'd say it's extremely schizophrenic.
Also your point on the guest character point. It's worse. They are effectively bargaining chips to make the player spend $75 on the next installment to play as Red13 in Rebirth.
I heard they are doing the same thing with Cid and Vincent in Rebirth. So if you want to play as them, that's $75 for the character pack disguised as a full game.
Nomura was not in charge of OG 7. He was only a character designer (visually! Not their story). Hence, even Sephiroth is NOT Nomuras creation. Sure, the hair, the sword n stuff is Nomuras. But his story, his personality (you know, the stuff you really fell in love with!) as the rest of OG 7 and all good iterations of FF (1-10) is all the work of mainly Sakaguchi. Together with music producer Uematsu, Sakaguchi was and still is Final Fantasy. Ever since these two left Square, the games are just not the same anymore and follow a completely different approach that tries to be much more mainstream than be their own thing. They are working in a studio called Mistwalker now and produce games that even upon first glance immediately bring back the old final fantasy feeling. I recommend everyone to play their last game which is called The Fantasian and is brillant. Other games that are "more FF" than what Square Enix produces are the Tales Saga or the Shin Megami Tensei/Persona games.
They stretched 5 hours of the original into a 40 hour game with 60% filler... how the hell is remake gonna be a 3 part release. I played remake last year and I still don't feel ready to replay it.
It's actually only 2 hours of the original
I'm with you with the Turn Based command! As someone who wants to take their time in playing JRPGs, the combat system in FFVIIR was too much for me and it dragged at times (ironically, combat would have been faster if the gameplay is traditional turn based).
To FFXII's defense though, since Hiroyuki Ito was part of it, the gameplay felt more like Vagrant Story on crack in hindsight plus I love the Gambit System as a way to simplify the busyness of real-time combat.
50:32 THANK YOU. IT WAS SO OUT OF CHARACTER
Also the shady red lighy district feel of wall market was ruined in general IMO
After Nomura fucks up the story to KH levels people will wake up but it will be too late.
Jessie's big moment was a meme. I hate this game so damn much. Holy shit it's so bad. The padding is AWFUL. DO NOT PLAY THE SIDE QUESTS. Hell just don't play this game. If you you love the og you're probably gonna hate this hot garbage.
Also lastly, you're not wrong: the boss battle with Sephiroth would in fact probably not even feel half as good as his battle in say... KH2. I spent an hour trying to beat him and I might have even been max level at the tiem.
Its sad when a ps2 boss fight can feel better than a late ps4 interpretation of one of the greatest villains of all time.
Lifeless... that's what I felt playing this game. And yea, I wanted this game to be amazing; I played it several times and even got my Platnium trophy. The combat system was solid, the action was intense, and the characters felt like the ones I grew up with. But the overall product felt stale and generic: it was all style over substance. This becomes very apparent after playing much better RPG action games like Nier: Automata or Persona 5 or Yakuza. With Nier Automata, the sidequests give you further insight into this desolate world and the characters within it - you get a really good sense of how dreadful and hopeless things are after hearing various perspectives and seeing the impact of your actions. With Persona 5, the entire map is small BUT VERY ALIVE - you get to visit multiple areas, and find a shit-ton things to do. It's the same for Yakuza's map. All of this, however, is a sharp contrast to what FF7 Remake gives us. I honestly felt FF7 Remake was on the same level as Crisis Core (very linear driven). But whereas Crisis Core had the excuse of being limited due to its original PSP platform (hence, its repetitive missions, limited NPC interactions, and lack of locations), the Remake doesn't have that excuse.
When the FF7 Remake dev folks told us they'd be making the first game based solely on Midgar section, I was honestly excited. I thought it was smart of them not to try and squeeze the entire FF7 OG in one-go. I was also thinking they'd pack that small map with a bunch of awesome shit, like what Persona 5 and Yakuza did. I stupidly thought, 'Wow, I bet they'll have fun shops and activities for Cloud to do in Midgar City! Maybe he can visit Hobgoblins Tavern in Loveless Street to stock up in Muscle Drinks! Or shop at a trendy clothing store to pick up accessories! Or visit a gym to increase his stats! Or, hey, Cloud going into a karaoke bar and winning special materia would be fun! And they'll be all these cool NPCs to interact with, each sharing their personal experiences as residents of Midgar City (thereby, giving us another perspective of Shinra).' Hearing your awesome idea of us being able to travel throughout all 9 sectors by jumping/traveling on a train would've been even MORE amazing. There were also bus stops too - wouldn't it have been awesome if Cloud could TRAVEL to other parts in the map using the bus too???
But did we get any of this? Nope. Even when Cloud eventually 'travels' with the use of Chocobos - the dev team couldn't be bothered with doing more than showing a lame, boring load screen. Crikes, had it been the Persona 5 team, we would've seen Cloud sitting alongside his current team members in the carriage while the game loaded up the next area.
And it's not like what I expected to see in Midgar would've been impossible to do within the timespan and budget they were given. Again, both Persona 5 and Yakuza actually have small maps. But because those maps are tightly compacted with places and NPCs, their worlds feel bigger than they really are. Had the dev team known exactly what they wanted to do from the start, they would've allocated all their time in building up the world of Midgar - not wasting it on filler-bullshit like the train yard section (I kid you not: you could be remove this entire section from the game and NOTHING would change for the characters or story). Instead, the change in dev teams midway into making the Remake resulted in only one part of the game feeling fleshed out (Wall Market) and others feeling rushed or given the bare bone minimum effort (which is very transparent during the underground lab sections). Even with the Wall Market section, it's STILL a very limited experience (especially when compared to the OG FF7). Like, I'm betting if you were to hand over the Wall Market section to the dev team that did Persona 5, we could soak in a bathhouse, eat Wutai noodles at the diner, play pool at a bar, etc.
I could go on and on about the potential FF7 Remake had, but in the end, it doesn't change things. This is what we ended up with. In time, I might've forgiven its deviation from the source material and regarded the Remake as its own unique thing. But... it's just not a fun game to play, especially on repeats. Nothing, except for the characters and my nostalgia for FF7 (and Sephiroth's hawtness), incentivizes me to play this game above the other ones I mentioned here. The fact they butchered my boi, Sephiroth, (making him appear every 5 seconds) and destroyed the core themes of OG (accepting and learning how to move on from a heavy loss) by revitalizing dead characters only adds salt to my wound. Even if those originally fated characters end up dying, the themes of OF FF7 are still ruined because Death is now being treated as some 'surprise, gotcha!' mechanic than a narrative lesson on life/death.
As fans, we need to stop being content with mediocrity. This is why SquareEnix feels no need to come up with a solid game plan for the rest of FF7 Remake - they are literally playing things by the ear (the Star Wars sequel trilogy and Game of Thrones' final seasons had this same mentality too - and we all know the shit-storm that came of it). SquareEnix will continue watering down FF7 so long as fans keep validating these bad creative decisions and demonizing those (often by slapping the labels 'anti' and 'hater') that dare to question things.
Wow! that is a long but exceptional comment! I read through every word and don't disagree with a single thing. Especially how you ended it. Medicroity is sadly being championed in todays world and diminishing and honestly? devolving returns is becoming actively more present in MOST industries. I just before reading this saw a comparison shot of OG Tidus from FF10's character models facial expressions on PS2 literally being better than their remake of if just as an example lol. But yeah. My last hope is that game dev itself gets easier, broader, and more impressive for indies within the next 10 years. Perhaps some exceptional and talented fans can quietly construct the dream FF7 we've all imagined away from SQUARE-ENIX's corporate drivel & soulless money printing / butchering of beloved and impactful titles. The thing which is the worst about it is robbing younger and new people of all that the OG was and they.... Like it D: It's very frustrating because I'd never want go actively convince people to not be happy with a thing that they've enjoyed but it's at the expense of them not getting to see THE TRUE magic which made this fan fic of a game possible... lol. Anyway I could go on forever about it. Thanks for that comment. I really admire your willingness to express yourself at length 😃 ❤️
@@RandamuSho Sorry for the long-winded comment lol, but I felt very grateful to you for making this video. If you're wondering why this comment popped out two years later on your feed, well, you can thank CZcams for that. 😑I vividly remember completing Remake a few days after it was out and feeling disheartened enough to search out videos like this on youtube, just to see if anyone else had the same reaction I did. But not once did I get recommended these critical analysis videos (until this year). All I got from my search results were videos of everyone and their grandmothers and dogs singing high praises of the Remake, with some declaring it 'even better' than the original. Meanwhile, I felt more and more like Annie Wilkes from the movie 'Misery', standing in the middle of the room and screaming, "He didn't get out of the COCKADOODIE CAR!!!!" 🤣
Like, it's really frustrating seeing something you grew up with get watered down and ruined by sloppy writing/execution, yet you're pressured to applaud and praise it anyway by a community that quickly reprimands, blocks, and labels anyone critical of the Remake as an 'anti' or 'hater'. If you're still wondering how we got to this point of mediocrity in our games/films/stories, then you can thank this zero-tolerance, positive-only culture we live in today - where ANY critical thoughts or questions are automatically deemed 'problematic' and therefore, downvoted or swiftly tossed into the 'hater speech' bin. As a result, there's no incentive for games like FF7 to get better or fix any underlying issues. Why would the Captains steering this ship bother taking another route when they got an entire fanbase praising them for their 'brave efforts' while also demonizing those who are trying to point out that they're headed for an iceberg?
All of FF7 Remake's current problems can be traced back to the FF7 Compilation. Everything from the very linear gameplay, the lackluster 'world', the repetitive side missions, style over substance, and cringey plot devices. I'm old enough to remember Nomura and his gang of misfits nearly destroying FF7 with their constant retconning and their roster of ho-hum lackluster Hot Topic characters (this is what happens when Nomura is left alone to his own devices, without any copilots looking over his shoulder). I find it both funny and depressing that Nomura gets to re-introduce this Compilation mess on us again, except to a new generation of FF7 fans who don't know any better (and likely WILL embrace Mr. Edgelord's content because 'he at least tried').
I want to thank you SO MUCH for mentioning your thoughts on Sephiroth. He's my best boi. And yet, even I felt the Remake did him a giant disservice by making him into a laughing joke - everything from his derpy kitty eyes (Derpyroth) to him appearing every 5 seconds to troll Cloud,. It all undermines him as a character (and to think, THIS is how new fans are being introduced to him). In the OG FF7, Cloud had to recruit an ENTIRE roster of allies to help him take down Sephiroth. Even more, EACH of those allies had to undergo their own personal journey of growth and challenge in order to reach their max potential. This meant that everyone had to be at their peak form - both mentally AND physically. All of this preparation work perfectly conveyed how Godlike and powerful Sephiroth was. You know shit got real when we, the gamer, had to assign THREE TEAMS up against him. In the Remake though? Cloud only needs A THIRD his roster (Aerith, Nanaki, Tifa, and Barret). And NONE of them had to overcome their personal challenges to reach their full strength to take on Sephiroth.
I was also VERY disappointed in George Newbern getting axed for the Remake! Whereas the new cast does a fine job (I personally enjoy Aerith's new VA), they should've kept Newbern. Newbern performs all these subtle tones and pitches to give more life to Sephiroth (like how he delivers the line: 'Is that the best you can DO?" in Crisis Core's fight scene. This, in contrast to Hoechlin, who simply delivers it as 'is this the best you can do?" - all flat and mechanical). it's depressing hearing Hoechlin try to SOUND like Newbern's Sephiroth too, making it more obvious that they should've just kept Newbern. But this is SquareEnix we're talking about. And those of us who were fans of the OG cast know damn well how Squeenix did them all dirty. I specifically remember both Burton AND Newbern saying they were recording lines for FF7. Then the hiatus happened. Then, suddenly, we get an announcement that ALL the OG cast can unceremoniously scrapped (while ALL the Japanese VA cast stayed).
All right. I'm ending this all in one final note: to me, the most offending thing about Remake was the heavy implication that the original game's ending was 'the bad ending'. In the last Chapters, Aerith keeps talking about defying Fate and 'making it better'. Then, when everyone sees a vision of Nanaki and his cubs running across a desolate Midgar City overtaken by plant life, it's taken as this terrible apocalyptic vision ("this is what happens should we fail..."). Fail? Fail at what? Saving the damn world??? I just wanted to punch Aerith and Nanaki here. In changing the course of events in FF7, what these two dumb-dumbs REALLY mean to say is: 'I want to have my cake and eat to!' Both Aerith and Nanaki want to save the world without making ANY sacrifices. This stands against OG FF7, which was all about loss and death fueling new life. The destruction of Midgar City gave 'new life'. The destruction of Aerith gave 'new chance'.
In the OG FF7, Bugenhagen mentions the Planet is suffering. However, it also isn't actively taking a side - it's very aware that it's fated to die so it's just being a passive player in all this. When Holy is activated, there is NO guarantee the Planet will answer Aerith's prayer and save them all from Meteor. This makes Aerith's sacrifice, the fight against Sephiroth, and Cloud/party's actions more powerful and meaningful. Through Aerith's sacrifice, the hardships the party goes through, and Cloud's determination to stop Sephiroth (a true test of Wills), the Planet finds them worthy of saving. This is why Aerith's whole 'lets challenge Fate' bullshit doesn't sit right with me. She's attempting to bypass all the sacrifices and hardships to cheat her way into the 'good ending'. But the 'good ending' was THE ending! The whole point of FF7 was about learning how to move forward from a loss. You can't grow and move forward if you've never suffered a loss! What Aerith wants is what a lotta entitled brats expect and want out of life: reward without hard work or sacrifice.
@@dantespimp I can't really fault you on anything you said there either! It's sad because it's not just a typical 'back in my day' kind of feeling, no things have quite literally got worse in lots of ways in most media and entertainment. I have chosen to take the high road in terms of wanting more from the ongoing 7 games. I would like to see what they do with it honestly mostly through morbid curiosity but I don't have any hopes at all anymore aha. Shame about the voice cast I never knew that. Also the team who worked on this remake originally made the naruto games and some of those story modes,were quite cool! good ol fixed camera angles maps & I really would love to hsve seen their vision. I got this horrible feeling deep inside that it was the better game and it got killed for corporate reasons. but hey is what it is ya know？ I've somewhat made my peace after all this time and I give my love and attention to other things I feel have more soul like the Yakuza games as you mentioned. Waving the good video game flag strong and on a fraction of the budget for a lot of the titles. I think eventually Square-Enix will lose steam and these other works of art will rise up. Miyazaki's soulsborne series did it I have faith in other passion projects doing so 😁
Lastly I wanna say there's something beautiful though about our OG being just that. Near perfect... Of course it would be lovely to see it prettier graphically but it's also so amazing just as it is & I don't think anything can make that magic sparkle just as much as OG 7 does. We'll always have it & if this has shown anything, sometimes a piece of art is best not followed up & instead just cherished in it's original state & immortalised just as it was ❤️
Use the power of wallets: don’t buy SE games, figures, books, etc. Speak with our wallets. They gave a big middle finger to the fans who made this remake possible by supporting and buying everything FFVII related for 20 years. Also all the portions etc that pressured them.
Let the ungrateful and foolish millennials and gen z have a crapped out, Kingdom Hearts version of the story. I’ll just keep playing the OG & hope someone mods it.
Why don't we alter our history if people enjoy change? I mean if changing something that is Original is not that big of a deal why not do it with history? History is a story as well. Why not remove the US Constitution, Why not remove the Japanese samurai History, Why not remove many of these thing? They are story's in the end. I am pretty sure there are people in the world today that would not mind removing those things in history, and many parts of those story's, but I am sure many more people won't want those story's changed in anyway.
This Main reason we don't change our history story is because you would destroy what made all of us today. I will never play Final Fantasy remake because it changed my history, it did not recreate it. If Final Fantasy 7 remake only updated the graphics, and kept everything the same from the Original, but it cost $150 instead of $70, I would be happy to pay $150. Why? Because you can't put a price on what made Final Fantasy 7 1997 so good. I can put a price on something that is not Original. FF7 to me is Priceless. Me and 5 other friends of mine have talked about this for years, and we all agree, If Final Fantasy 7 was recreated with only updated Graphics, and everything was Original we would pay $500 for the game. No video game has ever cost that much, but we are talking about recreating, and not remaking into something else. You can't put a price on something people love.
I feel the pain of working hard af on a video not even knowing if someone will see it.
Yo 3 years later we're still watching your video, homie.
Keep pushing
god the music sucked, it's so crap with the boring orchestral ( so overused) and a couple of rock songs lol.
I feel the same, I've heard the soundtrack complimented and I honestly just find it hard to stomache that, that's the case. I mean obviously each to their own, music is a lot to do with taste but like a lot else in remake I think the music is a massive disservice to the fans, the game & to Nobuo Uematsu's original soundtrack.
@@RandamuSho yeah man, the songs have no themes. they all sound too similar in my opinion, it's like I say it doesn't need to be midi. They could have used some different styles of music it would have been amazing. Imagine the boss theme in actual electronic it would sound great. rock doesn't quite fit the boss theme I feel
Advent Children, Sephiroth has always said, "Good to see you.. Cloud"
That's a core memory for me lmao. Can confirm it's always been that way. Never said "hello"
Thank you for making a critical review. Spoke my thoughts on it. Don't let the dislikes deter you, and don't apologise for your opinion. Too many shills on CZcams.
thanks for your comment truly means a lot!
My issues with the game is is has zero reply vaule. A Stealth open-world with motorcycle chases would had fixed that. Fetch quests, really SE? That's how you want the remake of the most begged for game to go down in the history books? *invisible walls* ...don't even get me started on that ending and the KH path this remake is taking... Nobody asked for all that confusing overly complex crap... *We wanting them to get creative with the gameplay and instead they got creative with the story* something they should had left alone.
As of 7-11-21 the PSN PS4 Trophy List for the FFVII Remake is as follows.
Story Completion
Onetime Gig - Complete Chapter 1. - Common 80.9%
Escape Artist - Complete Chapter 2. - Common 73.3%
Mercenary Endeavors - Complete Chapter 3. - Common 63.9%
Night on the Town - Complete Chapter 4. - Common 61.6%
Plan E - Complete Chapter 5. - Common 60.1%
Lights Out - Complete Chapter 6. - Common 58.6%
Trapped like Sewer Rats - Complete Chapter 7. - 57.3%
Reunited - Complete Chapter 8. - Common 52.9%
Never the Bride - Complete Chapter 9. - Rare 49.3%
Sewer Survivor - Complete Chapter 10. - Rare 48.3%
Paranormal Investigator - Complete Chapter 11. - Rare 47.3%
The Collapse - Complete Chapter 12. - Rare 46.4%
Broken Dreams - Complete Chapter 13. - Rare 45.0%
Picking Up The Pieces - Complete Chapter 14. - Rare 41.1%
The Pizza in the Sky - Complete Chapter 15. - Rare 40.5%
No Appointment Needed - Complete Chapter 16. - Rare 39.0%
Emerging from Chaos - Complete Chapter 17. - Rare 37.8%
Destiny's Crossroads - Complete Chapter 18. - Rare 36.3%
They Absolutely Bled Out Their Player Base & Only A Small Percentage Cared Enough About The Game To See The Story To Its Conclusion. & The Game Is Like 85% Story, The Rest Is Side Content.
Please update
Might wanna check the original FF7 while your at it m8. All games have a drop off through playtime lmao. Y'all are reaching.
This video was really good.
I just finished playing FF7 Classic and went straight into the remake really pumped to see all of those moments beign fully realized on modern graphics....
Aaaand it was a disapointment. You see alot of people use the ''Oh its just Nostalgia'' argument. But i literally finished playing the classic game Couple days ago... its weird to me how i HATE this remake.
Sephiroth showing all the time..... HELL he even shows up BEFORE U ESCAPE IN THE TRAIN for god sake. Completly broke the mystery of the character at that point. And this is coming from someone who just finished FF7 Classic a couple days ago.
I cant explain how much i was hooked in the original game, and i also always HATED FF Games all my life... i never had any interest in ever playing them. FF7 Classic was the first i could finish because the plot was so damn good, and it made me go insane and want to finish the game and know whats this Sephiroth is all about.
After all this, ive been watching review after review to see if someone has the same views as i do. I hated all that bullshit they throwed in the game.. like REALLY hated.
So no... Nostalgia is not the point, the point is the game was already good, the plot had an amazing pace. Saying they are ''adding to the game, giving it more depth'' is complet BULLSHIT dude. They are not adding anything, they are messing things up.
It is just so clear to me, after playing the original game ( And THANK GOD i did played it before playing this MESS ), they are just compressing the story, imo Nomura would be long gone if they would ever make a TRUE FF7 Remake, it would just take so much time.... that game is MASSIVE, so many diferent citys, the open World sections. Imagine how big it would be the weight of the game.
Im not agaisnt they making and episodic game, in fact i really support that because if u think about it, Video games these days are so big, and it takes a lot of space to develop a game that wants to look really good like that. ( And just adding to this, the game looks good, its super heavy in weight, and still... it has AWFUL textures placed everywhere because if they would place super High def everywhere this game would be SO FUCKING heavy, trust me it would ) So it would just take so much time... and Square Enix is compressing the story to get over it fast and grab all that sweet money.
This is really big already and i still have so much more to discuss about this..... like much more seriously. Its just sad that FF7 Remake will NEVER happen, for real... it wont. We will never see a true Remake of this game. Because after all that bullshit, i doubt they will adress this MESS at all.
And btw, all those ppl saying they played the Original and still LOVED how they did things on the remake is HIGHLY suspicious.... I doubt these ppl even remember how the plot of the game actually was and the pacing of it. So i would highly doubt those ppl who says '' I played the original and this remake is PERFECT I LOVED IT. ''
Nice comment! I agree with a lot of what you said there and you're right you are proof against the nostalgia argument. you know what I think it is? People have got use to in this time accepting sub par quality & I think its people just gawking over the pretty character models and flashy battles. there's a lot to be desired, left out and altered in the remake. I still think of it as a okay as a spin off but it isn't the remake it could have been and as you said that is unlikely to happen
@@RandamuSho U know i hate to say this cause it sounds really rude but you are right... all i see is ppl jerking off to those beatifully recreated characters. ( I totally agree, Tifa looks amazing, aswell as Aerith, Scarlet and Jessy.. ) But thats not the point of the game... The story is. Its like cant you jerk off to the character in a plot that is good and makes sense just like the original ?
You are right if it was just a spin off it would be just fine, i wouldnt even care at all. But the name FF7 and REMAKE is beign used. And thats it... this is the remake of FF7. Theres no going back now they did it.
Like i said theres just so many other things that are stupid and absurd in this remake. I could go on with this discussion for hours and hours... But its done already, theres no going back now. Thats our ''remake'' right there. ( Not my remake for sure ) But thats it.
I also hate the fact some ppl think new players wouldnt enjoy the original story, like the original game wasnt so remarkable and critically aclaimed for exactly the fucking story. This ppl are so blinded and cant acept the remake they waited all this years is complet nonsensical garbage.
Yeah, it's not even nostalgia for me either, I played FF7 for the first time in 2016 and I was really disappointed with remake. I'm no longer excited for any Square game atm other than FF16 because it's being made by competent developers aka Naoki Yoshida and his team.
Facts. Most of those people that claim to love it never played the original. This game was awful to play through
@@AbdulB agreed
in the original game, the cross dressing scene had a hidden purpose, the less into the cross dressing scene you are the higher chance Corneo picks Tifa, if you did some of the side quest things then corneo will pick Aerith, but if you do all the side-quest to dress the best as you can as a woman, Aerith will mock you and this will add more points for the hidden part of this, which is a date with Barret in the golden saucer. i know there other elements involved, and dialogs or actions who need to do in order for the appreciation meter of the 3 main characters rise towards Cloud, Barret, Tifa and Aerith, but if Corneo picks cloud he gets lots of points toward that date With Barret as Clouds tell Corneo something like his loyalty belongs to another man, and that man has a gun for an arm and is the leader of Avalanche, and his name is Barret. xD not even talking about the date with Barret, it's just hilarious! a literal bromance xDD
Me: Hey, Nomura. Remember when you were good? Remember this thing you helped create that was fucking awesome? Yeah, I'd love to see that again. This new stuff you're churning out, it's just not on par with 7. How about a remake? It's a license to print money.
Nomura: And I took that personally.
When it comes to Sephiroth he shouldn't have even been in this game.
You're not supposed to see him until the retelling of the story at Kalm. He's barely mentioned before that.
I knew NOTHING about the changes, and just seeing Sephiroth in those scenes following him told me right away that this was not Final Fantasy VII anymore. Plus the Whispers..the Whispers & Sephiroth were so upsetting.
The changes like Biggs Wedge surviving. Rude instead of Reno. It starts to feel like they're changing the game to incite outrage on purpose.
Problem is:
This is supposed to be an FF7 remake. I played it because the original is supposedly a BEAST of a game.
Was quite hyped, played and was done in 2 days. Like, this game people pumped hundreds upon hundreds of hours into I finished in 2 days with no real reason to replay it.
Then I searched and found out it’s supposedly the first third of the game? And even for that it felt so incredibly short.
This isn’t a PSP Title like crisis core. This is a full fledged PCTitle for full price and I get…this..?
Do they know graphics aren’t everything? Look at GTA 5. That game cost 60€, had top notch graphics for the time it was released AND had tons of content + and OPEN WORLD.
And this is square enix’s attenmpt at the remaster of the most well known final fantasy game of all time?
Disappointing. That’s all that really is. Still no Ruby or Sapphire Weapon in the new game either. What’s the point of this on-rail adventure…?
I remember Sephiroth saying “Good to see you, Cloud”
I enjoyed the tone and understanding of both side in this video, and made me want to express some of my thoughts of what I played.
I played this game, quiting twice, and got only halfway through the story. It felt like a chore.
I played it at first as a fan of the original, that went as well as you could expect. I then played it as if it was an action game, but it tries to be serious too much and there are 2-5 gameplay interrupting moments before each battle. Imagine games like Neir doing that to you while exploring. Lastly, I played it as a game to make fun of while drinking beer, but it was still boring. Sure the combat is the best thing about this game, but it doesn't make it good. I got a nostalgic feeling from the combat somehow, the helpful pauses we're well implemented. I could choose each character ability or spell with relative ease. However, the movement, lock on, and camera during the action felt weak. I need more breathing room, smoother angles, and a dodge that understandable and consistent (if you even need to add it). For combat, I have issue with this game specifically because it is a AAA title in a massive running series, there has been alot of worse action rpg combat systems. but I want to be able to understand the battlefield and not have shiny effects all over my screen trying to wow me with how cool it is. At least I want the option as a player who doesn't like this, to change or tone it down.
There have been other games that I felt less in control, but this one taking the name of ff7 made this so much worse. In that game, I enjoyed exploring the small sections of Midgard, trying to figure out what to do next. I wasn't told what to do when exploring. If there was a larger map in the remake, the compass would probably have been nessisary, but not in areas that feel just as small as the original.
Everyone else has already stated my exact thoughts about the story, the characters are something I personally enjoyed in this game, expecially Areith. I didn't like Jessie though. I also like the idea of a brighter slums area, because the sun was able to get to them at sections and more effective sun plates. But they didn't really expand on this too much, and the all the characters having literally bright faces, makes this feel like a cheap Netflix show. The original was unable to show the condition of people who were suffering though their faces, this remake could have. This detail didn't even have to change the new story, but everyone's gotta be looking perfectly flawless in our games now. Sure, the main character need to be on display, but why do the npc look this way too. You're not convincing me that these people are in a dystopian world.
It had it's good moments for me, but a far cry from what the original's five hours did for me. (Which completed only a year or so ago) It doesn't have to be the same game, but it needed some sort of clear direction. I understand if you liked the remake, it has some fun action and beautifuly shot scenes; but for many people this was a complete disgrace; it should have been a different entery entirely with a similar world as the original. ff7 should be left in it's own time, with both it's flaws and great moments; playing it today like you're opening a time capsule. Of course the original is not for everyone as well.
Wall Market was a big lipped alligator moment. You hit it, you did it as fast as possible, then you moved on as fast as possible and never talked about it again. In the Remake they drag it on and on and on and on...to the point that the moment just becomes stale and annoying. Also no, screw that stupid rhythm game. Optional side content sure, fine. Have it be one of THOSE rooms in the Honey Bee Inn. Making it this big production though? That was annoying as all get out.
when you change a game, you've changed the game; in that sense, they are all disappointments
The level design is some of the worst, most tedious gameplay I’ve ever experienced. It’s painful because some of the story slapped but the game as a whole is a slog
I say it every time I get a chance. The "remake" is a triple disappointment. First, it fails as a remake or even a reimagining by even the thinnest but still honest definition, by virtue of being something else entirely just dressed as FF7. Which pretty much means, we can kiss goodbye to any official remake using better technologies than the original, which is our second disappointment. Lastly, it is also a disappointing brand new game, because even if one likes it as its own game, it still pales in comparison to game it could have been if they fully committed to making annew game that just intertextually references FF7 story and characters.
The only pure "win" here is for fans of graphics and superficial all style no substance anime battles and tropes. Then I guess there are no downsides.
The only thing i could tell that was in line w the original is the ability to not jump.
I agree with everything you said.
I can tell how much you tried your best to like it, but were greatly disappointed.
I, like you, was really looking forward to the game. I was so excited, I wanted to explore every inch of the world, build my channel around it, I thought this would be my game for a long, long time.
But like many others, it really broke my heart in a way, and due to this I learned to tempter my expectations with upcoming releases of games especially Square Enix games. Does anyone else feel like they barely understand their own games anymore?
I tried so very hard to love this game. I even second guessed myself a few times, thinking “no wait, maybe this is good, maybe later it’ll all make sense.” But really. No. The original was a complete package, it didn’t need anything else added. This could have been one of the greatest releases ever especially with the hype, but sadly, it just didn’t do it for a lot of fans.
It’s ok, it’s passable, there are good things they did well, but the biggest issue is the story.
Kudos to you. Every once in a while I like to listen to long talks from fellow fans and their disappointment with 7 remake. I even have a few videos with my thoughts on the matter. I tried to follow little news reels and snippets of what we might get next, but as time went on, I just realized I didn’t love it. I’ll be here, I’ll be wishing this series well and I’ll check it out, but it’s not the same anymore.
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thats quite the heart felt message man. Thanks for sharing. Yeah this comment section has really been an outpour of opinion with so much thought and effort gone in to people expressing how they felt about remake by comparison to OG 7. It really shows the impact that game had on a bunch of our lives and if theres anything positive to take from the disappointment it is that we are not alone in feeling that way and not liking something doesnt have to always be toxic like how some of the internet can make that appear. It's not 'hating' far from. It's love. A lot of us love OG 7 and all that it was and this wasn't anything like what I think a larger section of the audience than originally was let on, wanted. I will check out the following games to see what comes together but much like how the original trilogy of star wars fans must have felt, I don't think I'll ever be able to ease in my seat and trust devs and companies with my wishes for games just how you said dude.
Again thanks for the comment ❤
summed it all up so well
they wasted it, and worse its not even complete, coughing up $60+ for 3 or more games for a worse story that cheaply uses them for brand notoreity is disgusting honestly
and they'll never be able to make a true remake of it now cause its too soon to now, what a waste of time while people shill for it cause new big AAA game with pretty visuals and low expectations/standards