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SNK Neo Geo MVS Junk Board Repairs Part 2 (MV-1A Z80 Error From Hell)

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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2018
  • If you would like to support the channel via Patreon (keep the channel running) - / gadgetuk164
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    Another faulty Neo Geo junk board repair - this one has a follow up part. I get it up and running again, but by the end of the video I realise there's still something else causing part of the problem first seen.
    Neo Geo Dev Wiki (chip pinouts) - wiki.neogeodev.org/index.php?...
    SMK Dan Diagnostic BIOS - smkdan.eludevisibility.org/neo...
    UNIBIOS - unibios.free.fr/
    #snk #neogeo #repair

Komentáře • 44

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

    Neo Geo Dev Wiki (chip pinouts) - wiki.neogeodev.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

  • @lactobacillusprime
    @lactobacillusprime Před 6 lety +2

    Always good to see you in the process of fixing a piece of tech and you explaining what you do.

  • @aphexteknol
    @aphexteknol Před 6 lety +2

    You have the patience of a saint for hunting these pesky hardware faults down Gadget! Hats off to you. I would be a little apprehensive digging that deep into Neo Geo boards like that for sure...

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks =D Very time consuming for sure! That's one reason videos slowed down a bit recently - these MVS boards have eaten all my spare time =/

  • @gregdunlap7538
    @gregdunlap7538 Před 6 lety +2

    I kinda like Metal Slug with the faulty sound - "DO - do - do - do - do"

  • @Neffers_UK
    @Neffers_UK Před 6 lety +1

    Came for captions, stayed for "2-2-2-2--2-2-2-2--2-2" Haha. You are slowly becoming the NHS of the SNK world at this rate Gadge :D Great vid.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      Haha :o) Thanks for the support my friend =D

    • @Neffers_UK
      @Neffers_UK Před 6 lety +1

      You're more than welcome mate. I like the way you tackle each board. Yeah you may accidentally go the long way round at times, but that's part of the charm. Most peeps would shy away from the truth and make a vid showing how easy it all was, with Adobe effects all over the shop "all you have to do is..." f**k that noise.
      You present the condensed version of your trouble in an honest and easy to digest way. Tis great stuff.

  • @hannonm
    @hannonm Před 6 lety +1

    Yeah cause you had so much fun working on beaps Board.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      Haha :o) That board was far worse than this one for sure!!!

  • @amerikaOnFire
    @amerikaOnFire Před 6 lety +1

    Oh wow, I can't wait to see what would cause the issue you ran into with the wrong sounds being used. I have a couple suspicions and I want to see how it plays out!

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      It was quite simple on reflection, but not that obvious!

  • @josephneale10215
    @josephneale10215 Před 6 lety +1

    nice video as always

  • @DakalaShade
    @DakalaShade Před 6 lety +1

    The one with the ripped-out chip almost makes me wonder if someone assumed it was a socketed chip and applied a certain amount of brutality to it with a chip puller. I've seen that kind of damage done with chip pullers if you grab the socket instead of the chip, so... I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety +1

      That's possible I guess! I think in retrospect what someone was doing was trying to fit a UNIBIOS or Diagnostic ROM maybe.

  • @Four_X
    @Four_X Před 6 lety +1

    This one seems to be a head scratcher Chris, Looking forward to part three to find the fault. I'm thinking a stuck bit or short on the address bus.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      It was painful to fix this one lol! Part 3 is actually the BIOS repair on a 1AX (up tomorrow), and part 4 covers the 2nd half of this repair. Nice guess =D

  • @dropwire
    @dropwire Před 6 lety +1

    Great Video and attention to detail. I am also currently working on a Z80 Error from Hell on a MV-1FZS board. I've swapped out the Z80 , YM2610, NEO-D0, SM1, and the Z80 Ram. All obtained from a donor board. I have checked continuity using my meter, as well as using my Oscilloscope to check signaling and my logic probe to check logic as compared to a working 1FZ I have. Still no luck, I don't have a Diagnostic Bios and I am the process of trying to obtain the programmer and EPROM to make a Diagnostic Bios. As a side note I did notice the HC32 in the backup section was producing odd test values as compared to a working HC32, so I swapped that out. Still stuck on the "Z80" error on startup, I have ordered some extra "Z80 - 6" to be on the safe side as I don't know if the Donor Z80 is any good. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      Thanks =D The Neo-C1 has some connections I think - maybe you have a fault there! I hope not!

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      In fact, it does - my next video talks about that. The communications channel runs through the Neo-C1.

    • @dropwire
      @dropwire Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks for the info, so I think my next approach will be one of the following: I can use my known working 1FZ and probe the LOGIC on the Neo-C1 to get a baseline, then compare it to my faulty board. Also based on the pinout diagram of the Neo-C1 provided by "Neo-Geo Dev Wiki" I will also check the continuity to the Z80 from the C1 connections. If your interested in the logic values I obtain from the working board, let me know.

  • @MiggyManMike
    @MiggyManMike Před 6 lety +1

    Quickchip do a low temp solder for ship removal, i don't think it's super cheap but watching the eevblog review does show it works really well for removing larger, more awkward chips :)

    • @electronash
      @electronash Před 6 lety +1

      It is quite expensive, though. I think Chris did use it in a few previous vids?
      If you search for "bismuth solder", there might be some generic low-temp stuff that could work. I've not tried this myself, as I just use my hot air station, too.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety +2

      Yes, I've mentioned Chip quik solder a LOT through my earlier videos! That's how I ended up using the flux for nearly everything I do now - best flux around!

    • @MiggyManMike
      @MiggyManMike Před 6 lety +2

      @@electronash now there's an idea!

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks! I’m pretty sure I need replacement NEO-BUF chips for the NEO-CDD3-1 board inside a Neo Geo CD toploader... I found a short to ground; restored and it still doesn’t work. Boots right up with a known-good NEO-CDD3-1 board.
    Can’t wait for Furrtek’s ODE and NG CD BIOS mod!

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      Furrteks ODE does look cool! He's working on the Fusion 2 as well!

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 Před 6 lety

      GadgetUK164 - Retro Gaming Repairs & Mods Where can I get info about that? Only thing I see on his channel is the video from a few weeks ago were he demos his ODE, unless he’s calling it “Fusion” now since he did say that it goes deeper than just an ODE. ;) Thanks!
      Edit: OK, I found his site and that’s something else I absolutely need from him! $65 is VERY affordable for an MVS to AES adapter. I have a 3D printer too so I’d love to whip up a shell for it!

  • @AlexanderSmith21
    @AlexanderSmith21 Před 5 lety +1

    Sm1 was the chip number on the board 13 wouldn't it have been ram9 where it said sm1 but I could be wrong

  • @discoHR
    @discoHR Před 6 lety +1

    Ouch, get some flux dispenser tips. :) A preheater would be nice too, it makes the SMD rework with hot air super easy. What temperature were you using on the hot air station?

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety +2

      Funnily enough I did order some tonight =D It was on my list of things I needed :o) Temperature varies depending on the board and the chip etc. On these boards 375 to 415 typically.

  • @0utc4st1985
    @0utc4st1985 Před 5 lety +1

    I did some Googling on the Toshiba 84C00AM-6 chip you mentioned as being hard to get a hold of. It seems it's still being made by Toshiba and I found a couple of distributors that say they have them.
    www.kynix.com/Detail/198879/84C00AM-6.html
    www.utsource.net/itm/p/1097040.html
    Mind you I've never used these companies before so I can't vouch for them, but it might be worth a try the next time you need that chip.

  • @michaelsworkshop9031
    @michaelsworkshop9031 Před 6 lety +1

    What is the shooter game shown at 25:10 in this video?

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      Razion! One of the NGDEV games - pricey as hell but a great game!

  • @craiggilchrist4223
    @craiggilchrist4223 Před 6 lety +1

    Ive got a Gamegear that I took apart ages ago, its all there just in bits if you want it it's yours I will donate. Do you have a PO Box?

  • @danielson9579
    @danielson9579 Před 6 lety +1

    22222222 .. Start lol you know Could of swore it would of been that yamaha chip as well :-/

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164  Před 6 lety

      Hehe =D Yes, I was shocked when the swap didn't affect it too!