I tried my rotopax today and struggled with the nozzle that came with the container. I must have twisted the lock unlock selector at least 8x. Finally I gave up, it's a pos. I'll get mine similar to your nozzle for good. Thanks for the vid. Milpitas, CA.
No problem, I did have some leaking issues after I swapped to the free flow. So I use the regular OEM nozzle just to keep it from leaking then I use the free flow when I need to actually use my rotopax
One possible suggestion. If you can mount the fuel can above the same side as the fuel filler, you may be able to keep the can mounted and just use a jiggle siphon or squeeze ball siphon hose and let gravity fill the tank without taking the can off the mount. I’m planning on trying this myself when I get my Rotopax can installed.
That was my plan all along and was looking for a way to remove that plastic filter lol because the 4 gallon is a pita to use with the leaks and even a good nozzle haha
@@Corvenik1 I wound up removing the screen with a sturdy knife, a flat head screw driver, and a pair of long nose pliers. It was a little easier than I anticipated. It took a bit of patience and careful persistence to keep steadily working at it and getting separation but it came out without a lot of physical effort… and in one piece. I rinsed out the can afterwards to make sure no plastic was left behind.
I totally agree the nozzles totally suck!!! I decided just to get a long funnel that goes into my fuel tank and I just poured in through the funnel but that’s a nice set up👍
I do the same. Now I have an issue of getting a new seal for that eco filler nozzle. Apparently the eco nozzle seal is larger in diameter than the original Rotopax nozzle seal.
Some people show how easy it is, but they have a fill port that allows you to press down on the control tab on the neck of the RotoPax spout fairly easily. And with Diesel, you always need to bring a box of nitrile disposable gloves to disassemble the RotoPax spout. By the time you've dripped and spilled fuel all over the place, you've massively exceeded any emissions that the OEM spout was intended to control in the first place. Do yourself and the environment a favor and get a free flow nozzle.
I just went to the PAX website and the nozzle you showed is designed for WATER ONLY, and is currently sold out. But they do have another one that can be used for GAS or WATER, and is ALL METAL. It costs $55 instead of $35. I guess the water only version works OK, since you have been using it, but I don't know if there are any problems using it with gas?
They did came out with an updated version of the free flow nozzle that is all metal for use with gas. At the time, the version shown in the video was labeled as their only free flow nozzle for use with gas and has since been labeled as for water use only. With the “overland” market as it is, gear changes or get updated quite frequently to meet standards or quality. So in the span of this video going up and now, they received enough feedback to make an updated version. At least that’s what I’m assuming since I last spoke to them. (I bought the product it wasn’t a sponsored or free product). I kept this nozzle in a ziplock bag in my roof box. I only attached it to my rotopax when was using it and I used the oem nozzle during transport. I didn’t have any issues with the nozzle it was actually really useful when I was running a rotopax. It cut the time and headache by a ton. With all that being said I would definitely not use it for gas, if its labeled as intended for water use only. I would most definitely not advise you to store it in your rotopax.
@@RoamWithJon Thank you, Jon, for your wonderful review and for taking the time to respond to the comments. I truly appreciate it. You are absolutely correct in your observations. In order to deliver the best possible product, I made several modifications. While the manufacturer of the blue hose I purchased claims that it is suitable for use with fuel, it has been found that over time, the hose becomes as rigid as a PVC pipe. Despite the manufacturer's attempts to adjust the blend, the issue was not resolved. This is why I developed the All Metal Pax Nozzle, which completely eliminates the use of plastic hoses. The nozzle is designed to be submerged in fuel 24/7, and it has proven to be an outstanding product. We have shipped thousands of units, and to date, we have not experienced a single failure. Additionally, the All Metal Pax Nozzle comes with a lifetime warranty, adding to its appeal. Regarding the leaking issue that you had, it is indeed related to the gap created by removing the Flame Mitigation Device (FMD). To address this, we offer a simple solution: our Shipping Spacer. You can find the Shipping Spacer on our website under the "Everything Pax" tab. It effectively resolves the gap issue, ensuring a proper seal and preventing any leaks. I'm not entirely sure where the $55 figure came from; perhaps @jamesmeyer1325 has combined a few different items. The All Metal Nozzle itself is priced at $35.00. If you own a Gen-02 Rotopax and wish to store the nozzle inside the container, you will need the Shipping Spacer. One last thing if you are using the nozzle with a vehicle that has a standard filler neck, I would recommend our Spout Adapter.
It’s didn’t leak lol it looks like you unlocked it first before putting it in the hole. First align the hook towards the gas hole edges then you unlock it and push it down so it can pour easier I have one and it works fine
Sorry for the late reply I might have unlocked it before I picked it up and didn’t relock it all the way lol. But either way it mostly to show how cumbersome and clunky it was to use and that the fill time was extra long with the oem nozzle. With the free flow nozzle I found it’s less cumbersome, clunky, and overall emptied the roto pack much faster. Overall less work and headache.
Mine leaks. It doesn't self center on the rotopax so you have to line it up just right and tighten the crap out of it. Forget about venting daily. Nearly impossible to center the nozzle with the pack on the rack. I think the rotopax one was better honestly
@@RoamWithJon nah I called them and they said to cut the top part off the white insert so it will center which is what I did and no problem since. I keep the spout separate and just cap it though. I think they can't market it like this because of the EPA requirements on the white insert. Just fyi.
I’m not sure what the differences are I haven’t looked into them since I bought this to be honest. Mine leaks slightly since I took the safety piece off of the rotopack so I switched over to the oem nozzle while transporting and then only plug this one in when I’m trying to refuel.
@@RoamWithJon water plastics can be dissolved by fuel. Fuel is a solvent, a dissolver. The seals supplied with Water plastics might dissolve also because they're not fuel proof. This could be quite dangerous for you or anyone else who might use your system, such as family etc. Maybe you could go to Rotopax with your idea and feedback about their fill nozzle being terrible as well as how to improve it?
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now ai13 recently changed their website. They used to have their this model in the video shown and marketed as their fuel nozzle. That’s where it got confusing. Now their new all aluminum nozzle is labeled as their gas one and they moved this older model to water only. Rotopax designed their oem nozzle to work with carb compliances. I highly doubt going to them and complaining would do anything.
The version I had has been discontinued and the newer model I believe is a different design and made of different materials. I haven’t looked into it much since I don’t use a rotopax anymore.
Yessir, but you cant store it inside of the gas nozzle since it’s not the rated for gas. Not to mention you ruin a perfectly good nozzle lol. It’s also super thin it would probably take longer to fill than the oem gas nozzle.
I don’t really recommend taking it out, you’re better off keeping the high flow nozzle in a ziplock bag and then just taking it out when you need to use it. Taking it out causes leaks and it’s also a carb requirement.
@@RoamWithJon yes, that is exactly what I am asking. I have 2 (2 gallon) water and 2 (2 gallon) diesel rotopax on my truck and a few nights ago I walked out of a restaurant and someone had removed all of the caps and laid them on my bed cover and when I disarmed my alarm the bed light was shining down directly on all 4 caps. A few days later I was told it was a prank by one of my friends. So basically I never want this to ever happen again. Thanks for telling me about the nozzles but now I need some 35.00 locking caps to match my 79.00 locks to keep them from stealing my 50.00 nozzles on my 90.00 rotopax cans.
@@JimmyBearden Yikes! I don’t think I’ve had anyone issues with people trying to remove my caps but I guess I’m just lucky lol. I suppose it comes down to paying to protect investments though.
Spout design is for epa and dot fuel transportation laws. Wondering what the fine is on highway and blm land violations? Especially during fire bans transporting fuel in an improper container…. Federal fines are usually triple the amount of usual road infractions! Be careful with the advice you share.
Apparently the US Armed Services do not have to deal with this nonsense. You can buy surplus military can on Ebay. That nozzle is the result of democrats working together to make life more difficult.
That "filter" that you removed is actually a flame mitigation device. It is required for all types of Jerry cans (portable fuel containers) as of law by 2023. Yes, rotopax's sprouts are stupid, but again that's because of the law since 2009 says rotopax cannot sell you one directly with a vent..
I just got a Rotopax, never used/seen one before. I went to fill the Rotopax the other day at the gas station. The "flame mitigation device" or "filter", is dumb. I couldn't fill the can up, as if I let gas into the can any faster than a slow trickle, the fuel would just spill out. Unless there is a secret that I don't know about, I don't have time to sit at a gas station trickling gas into a gas can.
Couldn’t they have made the filter longer so other spouts could be accommodated? Annoyed that the only way to introduce an improvement is to basically fully disable the filter.
@davidcarrico3385 a lot of things that CARB does doesn’t make sense consumer wise lol. I’m sure if rotopax wanted to, they could make a better nozzle so people wouldn’t be looking for other options 🤷🏻♂️
I tried my rotopax today and struggled with the nozzle that came with the container. I must have twisted the lock unlock selector at least 8x. Finally I gave up, it's a pos. I'll get mine similar to your nozzle for good. Thanks for the vid. Milpitas, CA.
No problem, I did have some leaking issues after I swapped to the free flow. So I use the regular OEM nozzle just to keep it from leaking then I use the free flow when I need to actually use my rotopax
One possible suggestion. If you can mount the fuel can above the same side as the fuel filler, you may be able to keep the can mounted and just use a jiggle siphon or squeeze ball siphon hose and let gravity fill the tank without taking the can off the mount. I’m planning on trying this myself when I get my Rotopax can installed.
Yup! Watching all these videos about people complaining whereas a simple jiggle siphon can solve all their problem😁
That was my plan all along and was looking for a way to remove that plastic filter lol because the 4 gallon is a pita to use with the leaks and even a good nozzle haha
@@Corvenik1 I wound up removing the screen with a sturdy knife, a flat head screw driver, and a pair of long nose pliers. It was a little easier than I anticipated. It took a bit of patience and careful persistence to keep steadily working at it and getting separation but it came out without a lot of physical effort… and in one piece. I rinsed out the can afterwards to make sure no plastic was left behind.
@@pn312 The filter is getting trouble to fill up the gas can. Good to see you easy to remove it.👍
I totally agree the nozzles totally suck!!! I decided just to get a long funnel that goes into my fuel tank and I just poured in through the funnel but that’s a nice set up👍
That works lol probably much more faster and easier than the oem nozzle
I do the same. Now I have an issue of getting a new seal for that eco filler nozzle. Apparently the eco nozzle seal is larger in diameter than the original Rotopax nozzle seal.
Got the Ai13 cause of this video. Thanks brother.
🤙🏽🤙🏽
Some people show how easy it is, but they have a fill port that allows you to press down on the control tab on the neck of the RotoPax spout fairly easily. And with Diesel, you always need to bring a box of nitrile disposable gloves to disassemble the RotoPax spout. By the time you've dripped and spilled fuel all over the place, you've massively exceeded any emissions that the OEM spout was intended to control in the first place. Do yourself and the environment a favor and get a free flow nozzle.
That’s like $37 worth of gas you spilled. 😂
But really, thanks for the review and cool product.
LOL, No worries!
Lol I got all stoked then clicked the link to find out they are sold out.
Great video ether way.
Oh Deng, lol hopefully they start pumping more out soon
Looks like he’s using the water only nozzle and they are in stock
They should be in stock I haven’t seen them out of stock for a while now
Fantastic product 🎉
It really is 🤙🏽
@@RoamWithJon sucks they’re sold out I want to buy a few
@@jonnytacooutdoors seems like they sell out consistently lol
@@RoamWithJon they have Instagram ?
Can’t find an email
I just went to the PAX website and the nozzle you showed is designed for WATER ONLY, and is currently sold out. But they do have another one that can be used for GAS or WATER, and is ALL METAL. It costs $55 instead of $35. I guess the water only version works OK, since you have been using it, but I don't know if there are any problems using it with gas?
They did came out with an updated version of the free flow nozzle that is all metal for use with gas. At the time, the version shown in the video was labeled as their only free flow nozzle for use with gas and has since been labeled as for water use only.
With the “overland” market as it is, gear changes or get updated quite frequently to meet standards or quality. So in the span of this video going up and now, they received enough feedback to make an updated version. At least that’s what I’m assuming since I last spoke to them. (I bought the product it wasn’t a sponsored or free product).
I kept this nozzle in a ziplock bag in my roof box. I only attached it to my rotopax when was using it and I used the oem nozzle during transport. I didn’t have any issues with the nozzle it was actually really useful when I was running a rotopax. It cut the time and headache by a ton.
With all that being said I would definitely not use it for gas, if its labeled as intended for water use only. I would most definitely not advise you to store it in your rotopax.
@@RoamWithJon Thank you, Jon, for your wonderful review and for taking the time to respond to the comments. I truly appreciate it. You are absolutely correct in your observations.
In order to deliver the best possible product, I made several modifications. While the manufacturer of the blue hose I purchased claims that it is suitable for use with fuel, it has been found that over time, the hose becomes as rigid as a PVC pipe. Despite the manufacturer's attempts to adjust the blend, the issue was not resolved. This is why I developed the All Metal Pax Nozzle, which completely eliminates the use of plastic hoses. The nozzle is designed to be submerged in fuel 24/7, and it has proven to be an outstanding product. We have shipped thousands of units, and to date, we have not experienced a single failure. Additionally, the All Metal Pax Nozzle comes with a lifetime warranty, adding to its appeal.
Regarding the leaking issue that you had, it is indeed related to the gap created by removing the Flame Mitigation Device (FMD). To address this, we offer a simple solution: our Shipping Spacer. You can find the Shipping Spacer on our website under the "Everything Pax" tab. It effectively resolves the gap issue, ensuring a proper seal and preventing any leaks.
I'm not entirely sure where the $55 figure came from; perhaps @jamesmeyer1325 has combined a few different items. The All Metal Nozzle itself is priced at $35.00.
If you own a Gen-02 Rotopax and wish to store the nozzle inside the container, you will need the Shipping Spacer.
One last thing if you are using the nozzle with a vehicle that has a standard filler neck, I would recommend our Spout Adapter.
@@ai13billetproducts51 no worries, 100% coming back to your products if I ever start using a rotopax again 🤙🏽
@@ai13billetproducts51super helpful post and @roamwithjon this was a great video to help me connect a few dots I was missing.
I also have an e46 sitting and waiting to become a collectable
We let our bmw go a little after this video, needed the space lol
Good stuff! Thanks
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Sweet thanks man!
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It’s didn’t leak lol it looks like you unlocked it first before putting it in the hole. First align the hook towards the gas hole edges then you unlock it and push it down so it can pour easier I have one and it works fine
Sorry for the late reply I might have unlocked it before I picked it up and didn’t relock it all the way lol. But either way it mostly to show how cumbersome and clunky it was to use and that the fill time was extra long with the oem nozzle. With the free flow nozzle I found it’s less cumbersome, clunky, and overall emptied the roto pack much faster. Overall less work and headache.
Mine leaks. It doesn't self center on the rotopax so you have to line it up just right and tighten the crap out of it. Forget about venting daily. Nearly impossible to center the nozzle with the pack on the rack. I think the rotopax one was better honestly
I went back to the original nozzle as well and switch back to the high flow nozzle when I use it. I think they actually made a new version.
@@RoamWithJon nah I called them and they said to cut the top part off the white insert so it will center which is what I did and no problem since. I keep the spout separate and just cap it though. I think they can't market it like this because of the EPA requirements on the white insert. Just fyi.
Looks like this blue one just “water only” on their website, do u know what different and how is working right now
I’m not sure what the differences are I haven’t looked into them since I bought this to be honest. Mine leaks slightly since I took the safety piece off of the rotopack so I switched over to the oem nozzle while transporting and then only plug this one in when I’m trying to refuel.
@@RoamWithJon water plastics can be dissolved by fuel. Fuel is a solvent, a dissolver. The seals supplied with Water plastics might dissolve also because they're not fuel proof.
This could be quite dangerous for you or anyone else who might use your system, such as family etc.
Maybe you could go to Rotopax with your idea and feedback about their fill nozzle being terrible as well as how to improve it?
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now ai13 recently changed their website. They used to have their this model in the video shown and marketed as their fuel nozzle. That’s where it got confusing.
Now their new all aluminum nozzle is labeled as their gas one and they moved this older model to water only.
Rotopax designed their oem nozzle to work with carb compliances. I highly doubt going to them and complaining would do anything.
Thank you
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Dude! Thanks!
No probs
Being the version that you installed is for water only did they say it’s ok to use with fuel? Not all hoses are fuel compatible.
The version I had has been discontinued and the newer model I believe is a different design and made of different materials. I haven’t looked into it much since I don’t use a rotopax anymore.
Nice👍
Isn’t that one meant for water? (Nozzle)
This is a two year old video lol. They’ve made a bunch of changes to their line. Previously this was their gas nozzle
You know the nozzle for the white water rotopax on your truck fits the gas pax also, correct?
Yessir, but you cant store it inside of the gas nozzle since it’s not the rated for gas. Not to mention you ruin a perfectly good nozzle lol. It’s also super thin it would probably take longer to fill than the oem gas nozzle.
It doesn't work anymore. They changed the sizes so that water spout won't seal on a gas pax.
@KorysRides there’s a new Version out for fuel. Apparently they swapped this version over to be water only.
where did you get your kirkland jacket from? I need one hehehe
Costco lol they pop up from
Time to time, haven’t seen them for a while though unfortunately
Hey bruh, so the AI13 spout is sold out. What was the other model you used with good success?
I’ve only used the oem spout and the Ai13 spout.
@@RoamWithJon Ok thanks. Ai13 will be shipping all metal spouts shortly.
@@canamshooter9104 yessirrr
How’d you get that filter out?
I can’t seem to do it
I don’t really recommend taking it out, you’re better off keeping the high flow nozzle in a ziplock bag and then just taking it out when you need to use it. Taking it out causes leaks and it’s also a carb requirement.
@@RoamWithJon rats. Too late…
@@Treetopflyer777 ah should be fine ish lol. If anything you can retrofit a larger gasket to the nozzle
@@RoamWithJon I’ll prob need that. lol
Is there a way to lock the caps on Rotopax?
You mean so someone can’t steal your nozzle or gas? I don’t think you can with the OEM cap. But it looks like someone makes locking caps for them.
@@RoamWithJon yes, that is exactly what I am asking. I have 2 (2 gallon) water and 2 (2 gallon) diesel rotopax on my truck and a few nights ago I walked out of a restaurant and someone had removed all of the caps and laid them on my bed cover and when I disarmed my alarm the bed light was shining down directly on all 4 caps. A few days later I was told it was a prank by one of my friends. So basically I never want this to ever happen again. Thanks for telling me about the nozzles but now I need some 35.00 locking caps to match my 79.00 locks to keep them from stealing my 50.00 nozzles on my 90.00 rotopax cans.
@@JimmyBearden Yikes! I don’t think I’ve had anyone issues with people trying to remove my caps but I guess I’m just lucky lol. I suppose it comes down to paying to protect investments though.
Spout design is for epa and dot fuel transportation laws. Wondering what the fine is on highway and blm land violations? Especially during fire bans transporting fuel in an improper container…. Federal fines are usually triple the amount of usual road infractions! Be careful with the advice you share.
Yes it’s a CARB requirement, there’s a disclaimer in the description of the video.
That design is so burnt! LMAO
LOL can’t shake the lingo
Apparently the US Armed Services do not have to deal with this nonsense. You can buy surplus military can on Ebay. That nozzle is the result of democrats working together to make life more difficult.
That "filter" that you removed is actually a flame mitigation device. It is required for all types of Jerry cans (portable fuel containers) as of law by 2023.
Yes, rotopax's sprouts are stupid, but again that's because of the law since 2009 says rotopax cannot sell you one directly with a vent..
I take those off my liquor bottles too.
I just got a Rotopax, never used/seen one before. I went to fill the Rotopax the other day at the gas station. The "flame mitigation device" or "filter", is dumb. I couldn't fill the can up, as if I let gas into the can any faster than a slow trickle, the fuel would just spill out. Unless there is a secret that I don't know about, I don't have time to sit at a gas station trickling gas into a gas can.
Couldn’t they have made the filter longer so other spouts could be accommodated? Annoyed that the only way to introduce an improvement is to basically fully disable the filter.
@davidcarrico3385 a lot of things that CARB does doesn’t make sense consumer wise lol. I’m sure if rotopax wanted to, they could make a better nozzle so people wouldn’t be looking for other options 🤷🏻♂️