100 years of crankbaits | Creek Chub Wiggler and beyond
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- Crankbaits, crankbaits, crankbaits...it's all about the crankbait! This week we take a deep dive into crankbait history. We cover all the most influential crankbaits of the last 105 years, including the Creek Chub Wiggler, Rapala Minnow, Fred C. Young Big O, Bomber Original and Bomber 7A, Poe's RC-1 and RC-3, Bill Norman DD22, Mann's 1-Minus, and many many more! So man crankbaits, so little time.
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I was always under the impression the 1909 Rush Tango Minnow was widely considered the first crankbait? Love the channel!
Thanks for the comment! sort of was thinking "first bait that utilized a diving lip" which was the Wiggler in 1915. However, definitely should have had the Rush Tango in here if we also featured non-lipped baits like the Bass Oreno. Either way, think I need to grab a Rush Tango replica and cut an episode now!
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Hi , just came across your channel and subbed straightaway .
Regarding the Rush Tango Minnow , I recall to have read in an American lure collectors book , that it was "the very first floating lure in history , that would submerge on a retrieve and perform a certain action on the dive".
Many years ago I grew an interest to make lures and tackle by myself and I was especially keen on those old US lures , that were quite unfamiliar over here by that time .
I tried to replicate them just by book pictures , since there was no internet by that time , because I was eager to find out about the action , that they would come up with .
Of course I also turned down a Rush Tango Minnow on my lathe by that time , but which was not very accurate .
Some years later I've got two genuine Rush Tango repaints from one Australian guy , so I could take off the measurements from them to make more accurate copies(at least for the body dimensions).
If you're interested , you may see these as from 7min. and 25 sec. in my lure picture compilation video .
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My Rush Tango knock-offs have already caught me a few pike and perch , a downscaled version even trout .
Apart from American , Finnish , Swedish , Polish , Australian and German commercial lures you can also see some other homemades in this video, which sometimes are my own designs or more or less accurate copies of vintage lures .
Tight lines from northern Germany
@@61diemai Yeah, buddy! Fish it old school!!
I still have one of the older bombers you showed I got it in a lot of lures I won the bid on it still works good and it’s the older one that still has the metal ring in the back where the hook connects to the body
Cranksbaits are a work of art and man I sure do love the classics...to all the ones I’ve loved and lost, I miss you all
I had a chub at the creek once....
And she absolutely DEYSTROYED my wiggler😏
The opening of that oversized ridiculous looking tacklebox was worth a like and subscribe. Keep it up you should have a lot more subscribers good stuff
I remember seeing a display at Walmart in the fishing section , Poes lures. They were selling for $2.50 , the rapalas were $3-5 dollars. Lol wish those would come back.
Family legend as witnessed by my mother and father has it that my granddad caught two six pounders back to back the first time he got bored enough to throw the Big Bud beer can lure that one of his buddies gave him as a gag. And when I was growing up, when all else failed my granddad would tie that clunker on and every now and then catch a damn fish with it 😅
I'm sure a lot of commenters will suggest talking about the Heddon River Runt. I think those date back to before WWII and you could still sometimes find them in the 70s when I was getting started fishing. What a lot of people don't know is that besides the floating and sinking models, they had a deep-dive model with an oversize flat lip. When the Linder brothers wrote the first-ever article about muskies schooling and being caught in deep water in about 1972, they actually recommended the deep-dive River Runt as a lure to try.
I’m sure someone mentioned it but you can’t talk crankbaits without the original Storm Wiggle Wart ! Still one of my favorite baits to throw . Love the history lesson here
I have 8 1982 perch patterned Wiggle Warts and one that looks to be a "Tennessee Shad" pattern, if you're interested?
@@richerwin6397 appreciate the offer but not at this time , thanks
Watching the show a long time now and I can't wait to see the real golden oldies like the river runt an pumpkinseeds from Heddon...
They are comin, good buddy! So many lures, so little time...
I'm so glad I watched this video, the small fat cat... Is one of the most awesome crank Baits in the shallow rivers around the Chesapeake Bay... Where the RC1 and R C3 were designed.... Also the rabble rowser in a different version than you had is one of my all time favorites I have a couple and I would never use them.... When you get to your lipless show you will be doing yourself and everyone else a disservice if you do not mention the manns pogo shad... That lure was so far ahead of its time.... It is the absolute best lipless crankbait for fishing vegetation ever created.... If it showed up now in today's market it would be a top seller instantly..
Glad you watched it too, Drew!
At least everything is in my favorite color green. Gonna watch this video when I'm at work tonight on break wishin i was fishin.
The norman dd22 is one of my favorite crank baits. I have it in almost every color. I had given them by my father who switched to the rapala dt series. I was using the strike king 5-6xd line and the rapala fat rap. When I tried the dd22. It was game over. I still have my other ones but these are my favorites for deep ledges
Great stuff! Appreciate the Manns 1-Minus love!
Thank you for your enthusiasm and for keeping old school alive. Love the UMCO 3500!! My grandfather always carried a smaller, three-tray version. Our family was blessed to fish northern Minnesota in Itasca County from the mid '30s to the early '80s, before returning a decade later to start the fourth generation. We still use all of the old stuff. The Whopper Stopper Bayou Boogie was super hot in the '70s and '80s, as was their Hellbender. Big O was a must-have, and all of the Cordell Spot designs, of course. And you never left shore without at least two Creek Chub Pikie Minnows and a Bass Oreno. Lots of Johnson Spoon and Shannon action in the pads with some Uncle Josh on the hook, but that's for another episode. Thanks again.
Thanks for dropping by, Carl! I just heard a hot tip that the Uncle Josh pork is back, offered from Acme!!!
My dad still has his Bass Oreno the first lure he ever bought. Someday I get it I hope. We got that thing out of so many logs in the late 80's the last time he fished it. He still has his first reel from the sixties that he bought too.
Mann’s baby 1- minus is arguably one of the best shallow crankbaits ever made!
Dude i dont know how you only have 1k subs. I said it before, you really put some quality content out. Keep up thr good work.
Thanks for stopping by, Matt. It's really the folks like yourself that contribute that make Retro Bassin' what it is! Stay tuned!!
I agree, love this show
Now that is a tackle box!!!! You need a bigger boat to open that thing up.
I have that box, started catching bass regularly in 1968 at age 10 and have caught bass on almost every one of the baits you showed.
I have been throwing crankbaits for bass since the late1950s. I had many Heddon originals, sadly stolen from my boat the night before a tournament in the 70s. But I still have a Lucky 13 on which I caught many big bass, some early Rapalas on which I caught two 7 1/2 lb bass from the same lake, and a couple early Bombers that escaped pillage somehow. More recently, I found a snagged Heddon TadPolly that I know somebody misses dearly. Love your retro productions - keep it up, sir!
Heddon Hellbender, Bagley Balsa B, and the Rebel Deep Wee R those were some great cranks back in the 70’s. I still have a few of those old lures. Brings back some wonderful memories. Glad I found this channel!!!
Sir, back in my fishing years (1950's to 1970's), the anglers I ran with then, here in the west-central part of Georgia, the Chattahoochee River was one of several bodies of water we fished. In the 50's many of these collectible baits were fished heavily. The blue shore pattern Heddon Zaragossa was one favorite top water killer. When that failed we had another that rarely failed and that was the frog pattern Lazy Ike #4 Model. That legendary lure could be fished several ways. Surface, sub-surface, and deep water fishing, trolling with a weight 18-inches from the Lazy Ike, from the back of the aluminum Jon-boat. While working deep water trolling, we fished off the side towards the bank with black bombers (wood model, no rattle plastic allowed). Your video brings back some great fishing memories with lots of the classic baits in these memories! Thank you for this video on old school baits!
Hey David! I need to get more into Lazy Ike. I have a few old ones sitting around somewhere!!
@@RetroBassin Presentation in the right areas, like river banks, any cover that can be a holding/ambush area for big bass, deep water trolling from behind your boat, when bass are holding deep. Down here in Georgia, the summer time heat factor will drive bass to deeper water. Whatever area you are fishing remember that to get maximum wobble side-to-side action of the Ike, fish it with a slower retrieve. Fast reeling with the Ike will cause the bait to roll and all that great action is lost. Thank you so much for these vids on antique lures!
I like those old Heddon River Runt Spooks. Though I'm a sucker for anything Heddon. Especially the Heddon fly reels, like the model 320 and Imperial 125.
Those OLD 7A’s are some OG baits my man
Rapala makes balsa wood baits not cork; they just float like corks. One bait became popular in my area was the Shad Rap. Bagley Balsa B lures are still hiding out in my boxes too. Then the Mann’s 20 and 25 plus came out; don’t know when; but I stuck plenty of them on the bottom never to be seen again. Bomber made some big lip ones and the bills were over two inches long. The history of wood plugs as they called them; is near impossible to cover. You would need a few more tackle boxes full to even get close. However, I believe you are just the one to do it. You need one for wood and one for plastic. Every time you crack open that monstrosity of a tackle box I love to watch. If you step back in time you will find more lures than you can imagine. So many lures were made popular in local areas and never reached mass production levels. If you plan on fishing all your cool old vintage lures get yourself a Frabill Telescoping Lure Retriever and keep it in your boat. It will save your treasured lures from being lost.
You know me, I ain't one for putting a lure in museum, but how do I NOT have a Hound Dog retriever yet!? I wonder when Rapala made the switch from cork to balsa; according to the Rapala website his first bait in 1936 was cork, but no idea when he switched or if they ever sold cork baits. This video drove me nuts (and a few viewers, too), really need a 3-hour special and two dozen NFLCC members to do the magical crankbait justice!
@@RetroBassin There are stories that say the first ones made used tree bark and some say cork, however; that is how legends grow. The ones produced for sale likely used balsa. If you have one made of cork better call Lloyds of London and get it insured.
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Creek chub beetle. It's unique and a dingbat. I have never fished a beetle but I have used a dingbat. The ding bat has caught me some nice bass and the first fish I caught on the ding bat was a big channel cat. It has an awesome shallow run and wobble to it and I love the buck tails it has.
As a relatively new subscriber I was disheartened to open the original video to see it deleted but seeing that possum belly open up a couple minutes into this one made it worth the wait!
You and me both...thanks for coming back around, good buddy!
I freaking love this channel why you don’t have 1 million subscribers only proves that super cool people come in small numbers
I currently live a mile from where the CC factory was in Indiana. I fish the very same creek these guys did. It's an amazing little creek.
You made me aware that I,m an antique, looking through my 2 Umco possum bellies at my old lures.
WOH dude that is a serious collection..awesome..and I don't even collect bates..
The Bass-O-Reno was the first plug that I caught bass on. I learned to bass fish with my grandfather and we caught most of our bass with a Cream Worm using a Mitchell 300. He had a steel casting rod, Phlueger Summit and some old plugs. That Bass-O-Reno casted well and caught fish!
The most violent top water strike I ever got was on a Bass Oreno in perch color that I was just jerking as hard as I could to see how much water I could make it through. Not even trying to catch a fish! This was in the late '80s... And it was already a pretty old lure then. Had a great roll to it. 🙌
Got me thinking I need to try to find a couple more 🤔🎣
I think you did pretty good on the crank bait class lol, keep up the good research. Really like your site fun to watch. I have been bass fishing for 60 yrs. I took a bedroom in my house and turned it into a tackle shop lol, it is truly a sickness for collecting don’t know if there is a stopping point. Lol lol keep on hooking face.
I still have quite a few of those Bagleys crankbaits... DB3's, Fat Cats, and the Diving Smoo. Do you remember the Crankbait Co. baits that were about 4" long that came in different realistic fish patterns? They even had ones molded like catfish.
I found a Poe’s 3 I believe at my local fish flea market. I had never heard of them before. As I was looking at a few, an older gentlemen told me about them and how he use to fish them as a kid!!
Absolutely excellent content. So much research.
On my wife’s phone the reble blackstar was a bait ahead of it’s time graphite line tie color eccentric rings l own about 20 of them only fish 2 hot orange and chartuse and l catch fish on them and since you are the retro man l will give you a retro story l took my shimano fighting rod out of storage and put a blackstar on it and caught a bass on it have seen blackstar lures go for $ 10-12 dollars apiece if they came out now as something new they would sell and they did sort of glow when sun was right the way l fished them was crank them down and stop let them risevv by all the way to surface and do it again they work also made a long minnow style bait also jointed and had prism inserts and walleye versions they were beautiful lures and one of my biggest gripes is that Mann’s lures and worms don’t get stocked in bass pro a few jelly worms. I would like to see you do a vid on underwater Mann’s augure tail and I am going to fish that worm on rock banger jig head made by gene lareuw Tommy’s biffle and another worm that never makes it to ill is lucky strike they make wonderful worms like baby Huey 10 inch and l also fish a old 2 tone reel green on green light green and dark green with Clicker on a old garica rod green and the shimano bullwhip and fighting rod were the best and l have caught a lot of bass on river runts and torpedos in my collection l have about 100 lures some still in packing and one of my prizes is a in the box Paul byunan 66 spinner bait and a hand made Muskie lure called the rat and it is made out of real anminal fur susposed around I’ll made by the rat man and I have 10 rabble rouser and fish one and have caught fish on it and jelly worms 12 inch catch a lot of fish for me a l have a original lews speed stick aprox 1980 ? And mud bugs
The rabble rouser is definitely a weird one. My great grandpa gave me one years ago from his collection before he died. I have like a shallow diving one. It’s a cool bait I’ve fished it like 5 times in the last 18 years. It’s cool to me
I have some original Youngs Crank baits and a wooden Creek chub Pikie with glass eyes made of wood and several Poe's lures
I like this history of baits, I could always watch more videos like this!
Thanks keep up the good work !!!
Holy jiggawatt Marty it worked. !!!!!!
SmallWater, you have NO idea...haha
The Shakespeare little s, midi s, and the big s are a underrated classic series of crankbaits that were around back in the day. They're one of the closest and best replicas of the legendary Cotton Cordell Big O despite the fact that some of them have a round bill and not a square bill. But surprisingly the round bill has almost the same action if not exact to the square bill that's on the big O. They're great lures from a awesome company that's been around forever.
That was fun👊🏾👏🏾
Hey buddy that small fat cat,wow! I wish I had a half dozen or so for fishing these North Florida creeks and rivers
Quality stuff retro Bassin you're definitely kicking their ass in
Those really old rapalas are very delicate lures. I've had a fish hit one so hard while trolling and it snapped the lure in half.
Definitely as robust as a 7A!
They are strong as hell
I've just subbed to your channel today and watched 4 or 5 videos. Your collection is UNBELIEVABLE. So cool.
My man, welcome aboard the ol’ Retro Wagon! I do my darn best to get a video up every Saturday morning…just like the good ol’ days!
If you look at the creek chub next to a brand new shad rap it's essentially the same lure
I can’t believe I just now stumbled on this channel. Great content !!
Excellent video! Love the channel!
Thanks for tuning in, good buddy!
wow just found this channel i love it
Find your channel through the Baitman. I have been recently buying old lures and he recommended your channel to learn more about them. Dig the content!
Baitman is THE man!
This channel is to fishing gear as Forgotten Weapons is to firearms.
I love it.
Yeah buddy…I am gonna totally check that out!!
love your videos
This was great
Not bad for a shoe knife and a hunk of pine bark.
The ABU (before Garcia) Hi Lo with the indexing lip. Not from the USA, but still a classic.
Just watched this video, looking through your older stuff. I remember fishing the South Bend bassoreno growing up in the Kawartha lakes in Central Ontario. We fished it wrong back then as well. It's not a crank bait, imagine our surprise to learn it's true application was on the surface. It's a top water bait. Take one out with you on your next adventure, and give it a try.
By way of mentioning, I like the babe oreno, it's about half the size.
The paint job on that zebco secret.. looks really good black Bill More of a highlighter colour than a Chartreuse.
It sure does! Only one I got, but I may have to give it a few casts soon...
The BIG O MY FIRST CRANKBAIT! No no it was a black and white hellbender, or a yellow with red spots smoo, little shmo? Hmm, it has the weirdest double treblebook tandem system,
I'm a new subscriber, love the content. I'd definitely add the Heddon Hellbender!
Great call out!
Luv your Channel🤠 so many choices in crank baits hard to pick my favorite😒 #1 Rebel joinet minnow #2 golden shad Hell Cat #3 the original Molded Lewis. Baby Bass Rattle trap #4 Gray Black HELL BENDER
So many crankbaits, so little time!
New or old school...I love crankbaits. Great videos.
Thanks for tuning in, good buddy!
I was wondering why you had an egg carton in your crank box lol
Norman Square Bill Wake (2 1/2 inches, 3/8 ounce) - Introduced in the 1970s, the WK2 is one of the original crankbait-style wakebaits
Manns C-4 Elite 🎣
I have one of the Poe's cedar boxes with lures, took me a while to find one in top condition with original cardboard box and crankbaits
Please make a video showing the whole contents of that box
Did you ever think about joining the NFLCC, national fishing lure collector club? I think you would enjoy it. They have regional shows, and a national show, all around the country. Thanks, John
I’m a member, but I have yet to go to my first show. On the list for 2022!!
Nice job! I love that tackle box, the big one. Who was it made by and what is model # please? It is awesome!
I always thought that the Dances Eel was unique. I actually got to hear the story behind that one.
The strangest part of the crank isn't the tail, in my opinion, it's that it sinks!
@@RetroBassin Yes it does. Keep up the good work. Your channel brings back memories to me. Because of your channel, I have started to fish my old reels(rods are long gone).
@@jeffreylunday928 And THAT, good buddy, makes it worth it!
It is unique. I fished Dance’s Eel before, catching bass, a catfish, and a turtle. I was targeting bass. It sort of reminded me of a crank bait/worm combined. I still have a few somewhere. Good video.
you are GREAT
The hellbender
Bravo !!! ❤ 15:42
I noticed you have the same box as me, were close mine is a 4800 series...Only diff i can see is on your top left and right fold out trays, I like your top tray plastic organizer's ...Where did you get those i'd like to change to that layout as well...Thanks Don
She came as a package deal from the eBay. My favorite box by far!
I have an original Bagley "Small Fry" natural bass that has never been tied on.
should check out the Carter Dunks best-ever lure.
The big bud is basically a flaptail. Fish it slow!
Great stuff but how did Hellbender from whopper stopper lures. Metal lips and different shape and cool little spinner on back. Cool video.. I've only seen a couple. I have a small collection and really like the information provided.
I just got a umco 3500 possum belly!! Somebody was just going to throw it away.
Criminal!
@@RetroBassin 😂😂
I found one of those Zebco lures in Grandpa's old tackle box awhile back but it says Super Secret on the bottom. Does that just mean it's a bigger version? I know I'm late on this video but I hope you see this. I just found you and been binge watching your vids for a couple days now.
Wish I had one Cabellas had sometime ago those had a fish tail I order one they sold out
I'm very tempted to subscribe, but I just do not get to fish as often as i would like ( i rarely have the chance ), and watching this channel would just break my heart.
Then again maybe watching this channel will give me the incentive to get off my ass and do whatever it takes to get a line in the water.
I buy things here and there and enjoy rehabbing vintage aluminum body spinning reels, but it just kills me that I hardly get to use them.
Rapala Shad Rap and Berkeley Frenzy Shad
That is a real fucking tackle box! 😎
Bagley Small Fry was a great bait.
O was told the glass minnow was the first !!!!!
Ii too have one of the prez
You have all the lures made of wood I have alot of the same mine are mostly made of plastic!!!!!
Nice video man I just picked up 15 pre wiggle warts got em in 8 colors I'm excited but it's getting colder here in MD so I'm not sure if I'll fish anymore this year
Tony, it just gettin’ to be pickerel time! We used to smoke ‘em in Howard County farm ponds on the Wiggle Wart!
@@RetroBassin hey I might go down and get some ive got a question for ya I just got a daiwa 7300 when where they made I might catch some on the old daiwa lol
I'd love to have that box
Wish I could find some Bill Norman black Big -N ‘s
Bagley balsa, wiggle warts🙂
My Bagley arsenal needs some help...but been throwing the pre-Rapala Wiggle Warts more these days!
Dude !!!
I wish ihad brought a fat cat back in the day the black star in black works the best I have it just about every color only the black I have any with
I would like to request a video on the Norman Weed walker.
Granted! I have actually had that bad boy tied on recently, but no takers. A great lure, and even better story!
I had that hard worm... 😂 Not Mann’s best.
Knowing you, Ted, you'd still pop an 8 on one!
RetroBassin 😂😂😂 That might make me CZcams famous for 15mins.
The rable router you can buy them Misagian the black star i have one in every color I have a coors can lure
Heddon river runt spook,pumpkin seed. Arbogast arbo-gaster,arby "hanger".
I love rabble rousers I collect and fish them
I actually have a chrome rabble rouser hanging in my car off my mirror I love the action of old school baits especially these
How about bagley db3. Or a sisson lure made in Florida.
Or BOTH!