Land Rover Defender VS Suzuki Jimny - pulling power | Fifth Gear
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- Jimmy and Jonny find out where’s best to put your money if you’re after a capable but affordable off-roader. A brand new Suzuki Jimny, or a second hand Land Rover Defender? Taken from episode two of Series 28 of Fifth Gear, to watch the full episode click here - www.questod.co.uk/show/fifth-...
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had nothing to do with the car, the driver failed this test..
100%
It’s very true, even the Suzuki could have won with a driver who knows how to reverse a trailer - as long as no one ever dared to put any weight in the horse box like, say, a horse...
True
The defender has a 3500kg towing capacity.
The Jimny has a 1300kg.
It's not about power or agility, weight torque and strength are important, otherwise the trailer could flip the car.
In New Zealand the brochure says the braked capacity of the Jimmy is 950kg. Why is it less in New Zealand
Why does virtually every motoring show assess towing performance against the clock?
It makes good TV but no actual user cares how 'fast they can tow'.
Why not use the high speed bowl instead of the steering pad whilst you're at Millbrook!
Do some varying lane changes in varying severity. Assess any towing ESP function responses etc.
But no, just ragging it round some tarmac??!
The only people who would care which one would tow something better are farmers and they already know it's the defender
With someone actually knowing how to drive backwards the suzuki might have won this too
I know it would have, that was Such Bullshit!
umm...yeah, enough said!
Agree
Look at all these Jimmy fans
Power also matters bro
Irrelevant testing once again
If that trailer had one horse in it, it would probably be over the Jimnt's limit.
You didn't test anything
if you're not able at driving, don't do a test drive....
You guys make the best head 2 head tests! Next time please test the cargo capacity of a Jimny vs a lorry. That should be an informative review!
Lmao!!
he lost because of the parking not because of the pulling power... what a sham lol
but the horsebox is empty. I don't know how the jimny would fare pulling my 3 ton boat. I regularly tow it with my Defender....
Hardly off-roading is it?
Never claimed to be one though...
Jimney is great but Johnny is not , just saying.
That's a driver's test, not car test.
Or it's a rubbish car test.
The Land Rover is rated at 3.5 tonne towing weight. It's in the same class as the big SUVs like Q7 and MLs Not a real test with the Suzuki rated at probably less than two tonne. Horses for courses
I checked. The Jimmy is rated at 1300kg. Hopeless for real work
@@carsonharte4483 yes, it might not be good for towing. But that's not what a Jimny is made for. It's made to go to even he smallest, most difficult places off road where the bigger Offroaders will not be able to go.
Coming from someone who owns a Samurai and a Defender. So I'm not biased, i just say that I'd choose the Suzuki offroad.
Pulling power should have been on an incline to see which gets to the top first, also stopping and then setting off on an incline. Overtaking speed by dropping down a gear just like in the real world with a caravan/trailer. The acceleration from a stop on a flat was good to watch as it simulates pulling out from a junction, still entertaining to watch...😁
Even speaking as a LR enthusiast, I’d completely agree that the Suzuki is a highly respected, ultra compact, light weight, 4x4 which punches well above its weight. It’ll certainly fit into lots of spaces that LR’s can only dream if 👍
However, this “test”, between these cars, is about as valid as comparing The Beatles Abbey Road album with a can of macaroni cheese, by find out one makes the best pair of swimming trunks 🙄
why do you change the pilot?
Not much of a towing test. I’d like to see a hill test and also a soft sand test. No point comparing these two vehicles towing capabilities as the Land Rover is clearly superior. The Jimny is a fantastic vehicle used for its purpose- I don’t think towing is its purpose
I like how there comparing a land rover from 10 yrs ago to a 2020 jimmy
That LSD editing is messing up my eyes
All very well doing a Towing test. put two horses in the back of that and the Jimmy is not allowed to tow it simple as that
Well maybe with a pony 😂😂
why would you even do this test the Jimny is not legal or safe to tow a double horse box
LoL This is not a car test...This is a driver test!
Anything can tow an empty trailer on flat tarmac! My A6 would've beat these two! Put two horses in the trailer and take it off road, then you'd see what would win! Defender in this case
Please redo this video with relevant tests and competitent drivers that know how to manage a tow
Where can I watch the full episodes?
They broadcast the full episodes on Quest TV right now I do believe...
where can I watch a REAL TEST!
They just sold more SUZUKI'S with that farce of a test.
I wonder why the towing weight limit is in the Jimmy
First rule of reversing, line up with where you want to go before selecting R, as Drew did.
How in their right mind do they think that has to do with pulling power.. Its an empty trailer for starters and reversing it on flat tarmac can be done with a first gen mini Cooper as long as you know how to.
Try towing a real trailer lol...we use landys to pull core rigs that atleast a ton with another half loaded in the back. It does this without issue and i doubt the jimny would even move at all even ising low ratio gears.
An empty horse is a rubbish test you could do that with a ford fiesta 😂😂
These tests are like testing a 1980s court compared to a modern-day Mondeo
Stick a 3 ton trailer on the back then go again.
It's simple Land Rover defender its good for towing and off roading in special cases but in the end off the day you cannot drive it in the town yes you can but it's comfortable as a public bathroom/lavatory you what I mean
cymans11 but you look cool in a defender
@@elliottslab yes a lot cooler especially the black ones
I care more about the weight it can tow not to race
I think my old Freelander 2 TD4 for £6000 will blow them away in more categories... only the really hardcore off-road stuff might be a challenge.. although at the last Landy Fest I still drove home after tackling the Offroad track with 90’s and heavyweight 130’s who got towed home with broken shafts and cracked sumps. Always the driver.. but I will admit that the new 4x4’s are so easy..
Absolute waste of time, they are completely different vehicles... the Suzuki isn’t rated for 3500 kgs like the defender, I’d be surprised if the little Suzuki wouldn’t be over weight if that was loaded with a horse!
The Land Rover is a true workhorse despite all the haters doing their best to slate it, most have probably never even sat in one let alone drive a Land Rover... I remember years ago when I used to go to the AWDC events the little Suzuki always did well on the slippery stuff, it wasn’t to be underestimated but it was shit at recovering anything heavy, that’s because it’s not built for that!
Would have been better if they were both off-roading
I'm Dutch and finally I figured it out...Sniff from TopGear and smith from 5th gear .....
JIMNY!! a superb modern mini Defee!!...but always a Mini!
should compare towing uphill
Only need mirrors to reverse.
Why have 2 different drivers? One driver for both cars, and make it a driver that can actually reverse into that Massive spot first time with both cars.
Then again it’s obvious which would win, Land Rover every time. When you said the jimny was nimble 😂 that made me laugh, especially as it only had two of wheels on the deck at the time! 🤦🏼♂️
Ugh, if only we got the Suzuki Jimny here in Malaysia.
Hmmm........This looked like a 2 horse capacity horse box, something that normally you'd want to drive in a responsible manner, especially since the centre of mass would be much higher when loaded with animals, so whizzing around corners so fast that the box is swinging sideways isn't the greatest test really is it. It might be fun, but it's no guide as to how the two vehicles would really perform under proper driving conditions.
The idea is not about towing weight but more the fact that the Jimny is more nimble and versatile. If you want to compare the Land Rover with a vehicle for heavy towing then I suggest a comparison with a V8 Toyota Sahara or a Dodge Ram.
The lad clearly cannot reverse a trailer... his approach wasnt straight at all.
Ps dont take a horse box on the road with a Jimny as it's quite illegal to tow a trailer heavier than your own car
No it's not
In the uk it is.
If the curb weight of your trailer exceeds the curb weight of your towing vehicle, its rather quite illegal, like 6 points illegal. it also voids your insurance too so they do you for no insurance too which is more points.
@@fishinmalarkey9830It depends on what driver's license you have I think
Even if you have the B+ E
If your trailer exceeds the weight of your towing vehicle your fucked.
It's in the trailer test....
Mike Wilson it depends on the towing vehicles towing capacity, for example, a land rover defender like the one here has a towing capacity of 3500kg. I believe the kerb weight of a defender 90 is like 1740kg. So it’s kerb weight is well under it’s permissible towing capacity. I believe it’s “advised” that you don’t tow a trailer over 80% of your tow vehicles kerb weight but only illegal should you exceed your vehicles capacity set out by the manufacturer. On another note, the defender is a great motor and an icon, but I was lucky enough to get my mitts on a new jimny, you know what, it ain’t for towing, I just have a great time in it getting to where I want to go. Happy new year.
Well this about drivers skills not about car capabilities🤪 anyway its nice to see both of them👍
A point to be made. Why didn't you swap vehicles
why they didn't do a reset since it was an obvious driver error is beyond me
What???
Basis of towing is parking ability? Wow!!!
Why couldn't Landy do a modern bigger diesel Jimny!!
I'm excited to see old Defender new Defender vs tests.
Id have both those cars mate
😁👍👍👍
The jimmy was so under weighted for towing
The Defender won because the Jimmy driver couldn’t reverse! Hardly a win for a Defender!
Absolut!! The car made the differens. Not the driver.
Should have just tested in a straight line for testing a to b
should have tested it down hill with a load on board, but for the suzi that would have been a jackknife and crumpled quarter panels at the rear
Suzuki can't even tow that trailer legally on the road though...
J watkins the gross weight of the smallest ifor williams side by side horse box is 1600kg.
The jimny has a tow capacity of 1300kg. So no, it can't tow it legally and they are being bloody irresponsible by suggesting could.
@@pinkskud1 yep, madnes
What a waste of my time. Terrible drivers. A simple task made look difficult
He should have “L” plates. Better for the same driver to test drive both vehicles.
yawn... where's the offroad part of the test?
El jimny's driver is meaner than alkaeda 🤣🤣🤣
you wouldn't drive a Jimny like that with a trailer... the Jimny is so light you'll get the tail wagging the dog effect, why not compare the Jimny vs a raptor F22 and see which is the best and take off and landing, that's how relevant this comparison was.
It doesn't mean s**t. All it means is the jimny driver can't do reverse with a towed trailer
Sure.......
They spoke French only for three centuries yet still cannot pronounce "garage."
Why in hell does this show still exist?
Syncrofan cause its good. Its no top gear but it never was trying to beat Top Gear
@@GTChucker86 every single show I see from these guys is horrible... just like this one. What kind of comparison is that supposed to be? Off road? Where? It shows the different trailer driving skills but that's it.
Syncrofan Its not an offroad challenge, its a challenge on which Offroader does work better, such work like towing. they did say that in the beginning of the video.
Use your mirrors
Jimny + gymkhana = Jimkhana!
Are you fucking joking? A Suzuki vs a Defender. Stop the madness, please.
Driver nil?...defender 1
Someone needs to learn how to reverse...
What a pathetic attempt at reverse parking....lame!
#BringTiffBack
The jiminy cannot compete on any level here as the defender can tow the legal maximum of 3.5 tons the jiminy legally can only tow somewhere around the average hatchback amount of 1.4 tons i belive my mrk 4 golf can legally tow more than it.
Rob Thurlow I wouldn’t really compare a GTi towing capacity to a Jimny towing capacity, i mean keep in mind the Jimny can tow 1.4 tons up reliably while yes the GTi can tow more but my friend recently had a clutch issue with his 2016 GTi towing 1.6tons. and he had the DSG version
@@GTChucker86 that is true it will probably tow more reliably than a golf but my point was it cannot compete when compared to a defender the sizuki is in the everyday car weight bracket the defender is in a different class all together.
Wow how can you put that down to the vehicle poor reversing skills!! Poor tests
goddamn, and l thought new top gear was shit...
I have an identical horsebox to the one tested here. I also have a Land Rover Defender. I wouldn't consider putting my two 650kg horses in the trailer that already weighs 950kg, and towing with a Jimny. At 2250kg, with tack, water and feed to add, the Suzuki would be dangerously overweight. If you need to tow, particularly off road, don't consider anything else than a Defender, with some appropriate tyres.
Go off-road for real man....those car are made to be dirty for real
These so called motoring shows are getting more like comedy shows what has towing an empty horse box got to do with pulling power and how could a jimney compete with a defender
learn2drive.
Absolutely rubbish ! Both the cars are good ,but in their own ways ! The jimny is more of a car type thing,like a fiat panda or a lada niva ! And is actually not an allrounder ! Not even designed to pull trailers ! But to do things quickly ! Whereas the defender is more of a workhorse and it is designed to do things with perfection ! otherwise both are legends!
Still jimney stands better than land rover..
Jimney is a good daily office jeep...
Typical fith gear nonsense. No towing offroad. No towing fully laden trailers.
I have towed 5500kg offroad behind my Discovery 300tdi no problem at all. My boat and trailer are bang on 3500kg. As long as an articulated lorry and actually wider and yet the Landrover will cope no problem.
My 2017 Ford Ranger is better than my brothers 2017 Ford Ranger, because I drive better than him.
This test meant nothing.
The Suzuki will always work, the land rover wont🤣
The Land Rovers will still be running decades after the Suzuki has gone to the scrap heap. Ultimately they former are simple and very robust and can be kept going indefinitely with basic tools.
@@TheEulerID not this one because this has got the 2.2 transit engine in, and isnt as simple as e.g. a 1990 defender, there is literally no room in these engine bays because the 2.4 is too big for the hole, that's why they had to change the bonnet and give it that extra hump in the middle to accommodate it
Please do not talk about rust or other issues. The lifetime of a Landrover eguals the hight of its garage bills :-)
And if you do want to buy an ofroad vehicle of that (Landrover) kind, you're better of buying a tractor :-)
@@ikkeennietjij 70% of Land Rovers every built are still in use. This is a machine that was first built in 1948. Ultimately they are simple, robust vehicles and many, possibly most don't see the insides of garages as they are looked after by their owners. They only require basic tools.
They have been used all over the world, and it's the ability to repair them simply and to modify them very easily that has kept them going.
That guy with the hat can't drive
Stupid test neither can reverse the trailer so what's that got to do with the car ??? Surely they aren't that stupid
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I will take the more reliable Jimny over the 2nd hand Defender any day.
Pieter Niemandt more reliable, what absolute rubbish, tell me... how many old Suzuki 4x4 do you still see driving around?
@@PillSharks ln South Africa quite a substantial number. More in the country side. Not many were sold in the past. But l believe this model will change it all. I'm on a long waiting list currently and Suzuki has difficulty keeping up with demand. On the other hand a Land Rover comes with an oil leak 2nd hand, parts are expensive and rust on the hinges and screws are common place next to the coast. With a new Jimny comes a nice warranty so definitely the Jimny is the more reliable option.
Pieter Niemandt well I can’t answer the ones in South Africa but I can answer the ones in Europe, there ain’t any left... all rotted away and the only ones you really ever see are the ones which have failed their MOT (yearly test) and have been converted into off roader which they are great at... the Land Rover will always outlive the Suzuki just because how it’s built... as for oil leaks, yes you get some which leak oil but I’ve worked on plenty of vehicles which leak oil, it’s a vehicle and they have oil in them!
I’ve owned my old 92 defender for 18 years and it’s let me down once, the clutch exploded... most Suzuki’s don’t even make it to 18 years due to rust!
@@PillSharks l know about the strict vehicle regulations in Europe. Here they are by far mre relaxed. A friend of mine served in the British military and got a Suzuki Vitara for free. As long as he took the vehicle through the paperwork. Just remember that the type of vehicles people buy in Europe are way different than the ones sold in South Africa. And on my public service salary l can almost not afford the Jimny. Not even speaking of maintaining an 8 year old Land Rover. But my dad was also a mechanic and drove old school high maintenance cars because he did the labour himself.
Pieter Niemandt I did my apprenticeship on Land Rovers in the 90s, I do all the maintenance myself but I still don’t see them as high maintenance vehicles, i service it and keep the underside clean and painted and it just keeps on going, 300,000 miles plus now with only one break down in the 18 years of ownership, I’d say that’s reliable?
Parts are cheap as chips through out the world and 2nd hand parts are plentiful, you have a massive range of aftermarket parts which can be really cheap shit or high end...you choose on your budget but from what I’ve seen people tend to put the cheap parts on which don’t last and them blame it on the vehicle!
My wife disco is 18 years old with 170,000 miles and I’ve just replaced some of the first bushes since new, wheel bearings haven’t ever been replaced, original exhaust, original starter motor, the list goes on.... obviously it’s had plenty of parts also in that time!
At least it appeals to schoolboys. Top trumps !!!
Goes to show small and cheap 4x4 is much better capable off roader and much more reliable than an expensive land or range rover
Beka Machurishvili
Did you actually watch the video?! It showed no such thing!
Complete & utter bullshit, they're 2 completely different vehicles when it comes to towing, the Land Rover is totally in command towing 3.5t, where as the Jimny couldn't tow that horse box loaded...
PS. Not a Land Rover fan.
defenders have a great legacy keeping aside their shitty reliability but jimny is definitely the best bang for your buck you can get.
Nabil Ansari
Have you ever even towed a horse box, complete with horses, at a total weight of around 2 tonnes?
@@Jon-zj2nj no haven't. Just like most of the buyers of these types of cars
Nabil Ansari
If you live and work in rural areas, like I do, it’s not an uncommon thing to see being towed by one.
Genuine question: Why would you want to read and then pass critical comment on a towing comparison like this, if it’s not something that you’ve done, or have any need of, or believe that anyone else would has any need of?
Jimny won...driver error
Ashish Tirkey
Neither won. This test was too deeply flawed to be able to claim any. victories 😡
What a load of bullshit!! If they used the same competent drive to do both tests it would have been more fair.
Stupid comparison.
Is this Show a RIP-off of TOP Gear?
what is this testing about?? Drivers? or cars??? So dumb !
How about filling some water containers loading them into the horsebox and try going 55-60 mph down the motorway. The tail will wag the dog (a.k.a fish tailing) of the Jimny and end up in the armco barrier facing the wrong way. The vehicle must be as heavy if not heavier than the trailer.
P.S. Don't think I'm bias towards the Defender just cuz I've got one as my profile pic... LOL
Its like putting a spead boat against an oil tanker old tech against new tech to sell a new product this case the jimny its like that youtube channel purposefully driving poor with the defender to make it look crap as hell to make the new product look great.