The Competition Between the Sirens and The Muses - Told by Hera
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- The Competition Between the Sirens and The Muses - Told by Hera
In this tale the Sirens, once nymphs that served Demeter, cursed to be half-bird half-woman creatures. Hera, fearing the power that Demeter showed the world - baits the Sirens into competing with the muses in a singing competition!
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My wife overheard my listening and she commented on what amazing voice lightbringer has…..thank you for the wonderful tales!
The fear kinda bad for the sirens. All they wanted is to be nymphs once more but were denied.
I agree! They had no chance against Hades. He is one of the major three gods.
@@brendaowens2466 Dude, did you even watch the video?
I hate that the sirens are always portrayed has villians.
Man, the sirens really deserved better. Though it definitely taught Demeter a lesson
Honestly I don't think it taught her anything. She seems to have blocked it out.
@@TraciPeteyforlifeI believe she was filled with shame after she was humiliated like that
THEY ARE WRONG NOT HER . THEY TRICKED HER CHILD AND TOOK HER AWAY SO SHE DID AS A MOTHER WOULD. WE WILL DESTROY HEAVEN AND EARTH FOR OUR CHILDREN. Hera and Zeus are shit parents and it showed in their children
Sirens should have asked to be beautified in their new forms.
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Hera is Queen of Olympus and don't you ever forget it.
Another great story. This reaffirms how much of a master manipulator Hera is.
The sirens were horrified. They were deprived of their one and only desire to be nymphs.
Heh, Epic Rap Battles of Mt. Olympus. XD
You guys rock, incredible telling as always. Also, love that you added a Hera talking head.
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Thanks for this Lightbringer and Mr. B. Another excellent video, Hera showed Demeter why she was queen of the gods. As ever greetings from Kilkenny.
Thanks for another great video!
What Zeus could have said to Demeter:
"Our daughter is old enough to be married. Hades wants to marry her. I'm the king. It's happening."
What Zeus did:
" I'll help you kidnap her. I don't wanna deal with Demeter's anger. She'll have to accept it after it happens."
Also Zeus:
"Ok, Demeter, I understand that mistakes were made, but you can't just stop doing your job and let a bunch of humans die. They're not sacrificing anymore, and thats really affecting our bottom line. What do I need to do to make this ok?".
Fantastic!!! Another quality video...
Hera looks so beautiful in this channel.
I am not one that loves seeing someone humiliated. But after what Demeter did to the gods and mankind, I have to say it felt oddly satisfying. Though I feel for the sirens. It is all too often that lesser creatures are abused by the gods. They are used as pawns and examples over events they lack any real agency or blame for. As always Sir Baldermort and Lady Lightbringer, it was a pleasure to listen to you both at work.
Hey, blame Zeus for all that. He kick started Demeter losing her daughter and almost had both God and human alike end up starving because, he set-off Demeter
@@seeleunit2000
I will not blame Zeus. Demeter is a full-fledged adult and she chose to throw a god level temper tantrum killing millions of innocent people. She refused to relent, even if it meant everyone died. THAT was a conscious choice, and thus, Zeus is not to blame.
her daughter was taken advantage of, deceived and imprisoned. No god bat an eye or helped to look for her missing daughter. She only did she could do (sane or not). The gods only intervened when her actions caused them inconvenience? Everybody gangsta until sh hit the fan for them
@@miguelfranciscosoares6745
In almost every interpretation, she was not taken unwillingly. She was married without consulting her mother. And in regards to helping her look for Persephone or show concern, she did not approach anyone for help. Demeter punished EVERYONE for the actions of just a few.
@@zachariahmousa7652Persephone did not marry hades by choice. He consulted Zeus, kidnapped her (Persephone cried out for her mother so she clearly wasn’t cool with being kidnapped) and Hermes later Persephone in the underworld, crying on hades bed/couch. Maybe their relationship got better, but she was not happy about it at first nor did it start off as consensual.
Excellent as always
Sometimes I feel that the Kardashians are the modern sirens of these tales of old. Lol
I’ve been waiting to have some time to myself to watch this one as I’ve been taking care of my father.
Damn! Demeter thinking she can do whatever she wants but Hera’s like ‘hold my ambrosia’
Amazing!!! Now I see how Queen Hera is indeed the worthy queen of Olympus. She is very delicate in Demeter’s punishment.
Hera is so regal in this feature.
Not every battle is a bloody one....at least until the end😂👹😂
Very beautiful work, you all are artìsts🤌
Please make more videos about the Greek gods, it's awesome!!!!!! I enjoyed all the videos about Greek Mythology, it's very well explained and also surprising for some different sides of the stories I thought to know appeared.
I am really impressed with the presenter and the visuals. Beautiful voice and wonderful story.
This one took my breath away. It was gorgeous a great job and keep up the good work.
What a "Very Sad" story!!
Restoration must be given back in due time 🥹🥹🥹
These gods sound like very privileged, yet very irresponsible beings that sit in seats of power...kinda reminds me of the "NOW"
That's the point. They are a bunch of entitled monsters.
"The Sirens saw they could not win us, woo us with their facade of beauty"
Not to mention the Immediate minded and shallow wishes of most human beings. Hearing this it is obvious to see how humans fall victim for sirens. Look what people do to attain so called societal standard "Happiness" and less than benevolent desires. celebrities are our greatest precedents.
The queen muses about the sound of sirens. 😀
The love and/or wrath of a mother knows no bounds. Several individuals witnessed Persephone's abduction yet remained silent. All what the Olympians endured could have been avoided had someone said something. Humanity lived in a golden age of great harmony when Cronus ruled, I don't agree with him devouring his children but at least we never suffered when he sat on the throne.
What an amazing story and a different version from what I remember
I always did wonder how the sirens got to where they were in the stores. I do feel bad for them tho.
Never disappoint.
I didn't get a vid on your 40k channel last Friday so I was worried that infection was getting worse. Glad to see this from a couple days ago..hope all is well
This story reminds me of that of death of Baldr inn Norse mythology in a way... ❤ similar messages ❤ love this
Thank you for watching and enjoying the tales my friend!
- Lightbringer
Sooo Hades goes unpunished.. typical.. and with permission to take what didn't belong to him....
The narration was fantastic, I was really drawn inside the scenery thank you!
Gods...amiright?! 🙄 Beautifully told.
Noice 👍
A great tale of intrigue and power, showing how Hera is THE queen on Olympus! I think the whole point of this whole party and contest was Hera demonstrating the authority both she and Zeus commanded over the other gods, and subtly letting Demeter know not to trifle with them again. Hera practically dared Demeter to try and save her Sirens, and in front of the whole court, backed down from here, to everyone present that Zeus and Hera were the true power and authority among the Olympians.
So where does mime fit into all this?
Iunno throw it in with erotic poetry.
Haha
Could u create a video showing another of Demeter's daughters with poseidon the sister and opposite to persephone, Despoina and her horse brother
Some sirens decide migrating to east, part of them go further to currently know as India, till the birth of Siddhatra Gautama they follow under his teaching and be the Auspices known as Kalavinka. At the end, they depart to Sukhavati.
if hera has not haters im dead.
Fucking brilliant, Iightbringer !!!
If I could buy stocks in a youtube channel this would be it.
1 year and you'll have a million subs
Zeus advised Hades to abduct Persephone. Damn the double standard.
Hera only bullies those she could . She aint that tough when it comes to Nyx though
That is a good number of immortals and basically every mortal though.
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What are the names of the sirens, because I hear like different names each time in this video?
So can someone explain how the sirens losing that way was a power move by Hera? Honestly curious/trying to comprehend.
Honestly it’s all in the politics
Demeter had just displayed defiance of the rulers decision and shown great power. (With the winter brought to the world and refusal to stop when ordered)
The sirens were her nymphs - her people - she is seen here unable, unwilling, to defend her own people against the rulers - Hera and Zeus
The muses are also linked to Zeus and so are representative of him in this competition - as glory and pride would go to the winner/ whoever is their linked god.
If the muses with - so do Zeus and Hera
If the sirens win - Demeter would have won in a way also.
But this showed that Demeter is not willing to challenge the rulers to save her people, and so cannot be seen as rival to Zeus if any god/goddess started a coup against him.
The court / everyone knows now that Demeter will not defend you, she has bent to the will of Zeus and Hera at the end of this piece.
It was a challenge - to see if Demeter would rise to defy the king again.
However the original tale doesn’t state why -
Pausanias, Description of Greece 9. 34. 3 (trans. Jones) (Greek travelogue C2nd A.D.) :
"[At Koroneia (Coronea) in Boiotia] is a sanctuary of Hera . . . in her hands she carried the Seirenes (Sirens). For the story goes that the daughters of Akheloios (Achelous) were persuaded by Hera to compete with the Mousai (Muses) in singing. The Mousai won, plucked out the Seirenes' feathers and made crowns for themselves out of them."
I hope this makes more sense now!
- Lightbringer
@@livingmythology1405 thank you for the explanation
(Clap clap clap clap clap clap clap)
Who are the artists of the images in the video?
According to Lightbringer in one of her responses, it is AI.
My alord thank you for this other epic so just fully narrated 🙏
Fun fact I just realized after you video:
Sirens are different from mermaids in the Mythology ?!
And how far from the Harpies are those Sirens represented here?
They do seem to uave a similar outlook through most Greek mythos and Epics.
Alao "sirène" in French means mermaid....funny assimilation of voth languages. Or possibly the elder term was lost in the common knowledge of the plebs that could have composed the crews of ships at the time "mermaid" was coinned for the half fish ladies of the deep?
Also mermaid seems to be from both French and English language.
As mer" is the French word for the sea.
Could be Interesting to research when sirene/ mermaid started to be used to adress the fish ladies while the name clearly belongs to the feathery transformed Nymphs.
Demeter was determined to find her daughter. She didnt know that hedes had her daughter
Hera Queen of the gods and Goddess of scheming and power lol
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Demeter is better mother then hera thats a fact
This implies Demeter chose to make her women warriors to protect them from the men who would rape and steal them away. Was it punishment? OR empowerment?
Did Athena not do the same thing with Medusa after Poseidon's unwanted advances?
Perhaps Hera being coddled did not understand the strength of being able to take care of herself.
Probably could have avoided the fight by just talking to her BEFORE shipping her daughter off. Even if her daughter was willing to go.
But yeah you really make Hera sound awful. How would she like it if they shipped out Hebe or Ilithryia without talking to HER? Hurting Demeter's adopted daughters' for favoring her only daughter was very mean and unempathetic. I'm surprised supposedly sweet muses and their mothers would be so disrespectful to them. As a kindness I would have only taken ONE feather and called it enough.
Hmm...contest was basically 'hopes for the future' vs 'platitudes and memories of the past'. If you are a peoples who want for nothing, then its hard to be 'reached' by one with hopes. If they're stroking your ego and you have huge amounts of pride you'd definitely be more interested in hearing your own accomplishments. I guess the muses just knew their crowd then. It was an easy victory for their experience.
why did u make demeter look so old while hera hestia look young? they are all close in age..i dont get why demeter looks like a 80 yr old hag and shes supposed to be younger than hestia!
Great point!
Ai has challenges making faces older - for some reason whenever you put ‘woman’ it makes them young!
Thank you for the reminder though - it can be tricky to get the perfect faces and sometimes I have to work with what I can
But it is also simply a mistake on my part - I will be more vigilant in future! And do better if I can - I hope it didn’t break immersion too much my friend!
- Lightbringer
@@livingmythology1405 thanks for the reply!! and great video as always
Another reminder of how terrible the greek gods were.
I CANNOT WAIT to hear about the rivalry between Athena and Poseidon that lost women the right to vote, the curse of medusa, and the birth of pegasus and chrysaor
Yeah but in the blink of an eye she could bring the gods to begging again couldn't she
This video is a game-changer