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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
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INDEX:
00:00 Intro
00:25 Why I don't always like plugin doctor
01:39 What is the value of those measurements?
02:07 When is a measurement audible?
03:20 Magic Death Eye
04:13 But how???
04:57 Hidden features???
06:03 Disclosure
06:30 Testing
10:20 Dual mono compression
11:58 Anyway - Jak na to + styl
Dan Worrall made a super cool video about testing plugins, where he also explains the issues I have with Plugin Doctor. Watch it here: czcams.com/video/1IH6N63AXu4/video.html
one of my strongest reactions to a plugin demo ever. as soon as you cranked it up I could hear it’s doing something wonderful. dang
I'm not in music production but I got the same vibe, that it was doing something wonderful.
What I love about this thing is that it sounds good on everything I've ran through it. And it's a very forgiving comp with a huge sweet spot
I believe Ian Sefchick (Magic Death Eye) originally built the 4 x Capitol Mastering Compressors, which have just been modelled and become a plugin by UAD, before starting his Magic Death Eye company. He has a great story about selling Al Schmitt a custom preamp that I read somewhere if you can find it. When Al's stuff came up for sale after he passed, that exact preamp sold for a huge amount of money
I love the sound of this thing and use it on everything, I love how it brings things forward and makes them more present and detailed sounding.
About Laura :
DDMF made a mono unit emulation first. Over the revisions, and after a lot of bla-bla on gearspace, they started hiding easter eggs inside the plugin, and incorporated a secret mode : if you click on the logo, the vu-meter background change to a pin-up, and the compressor becomes punchier. Guys on gearspace decided to call her "Laura", and this became a geeky joke between some guys on a forum and DDMF.
On the stereo version, they incorporated the Laura mode as an easter-egg too. That's why this is so hidden, as well as many functions in the plugin. Not the most convenient, but that's a funny way to keep your clients' interest.
More about it : the EQ is built into the compressor, not before, not after. I don't know what it means, but if you look at plugin doctor you only see very narrow boosts on selected frequencies.. and that's not what I hear. I don't know what sorcery is in it.. and kinda love the mystery about this tool
And about the sound, it brings depth, weight, movement, openness.. As I was saying on one of your videos, we maybe need 500 emulations to get one sounding good.
The first song was one of the best songs I've heard demonstrating a plugin
I agree. What song is that?
@@MrAndyZhusong name:- Sleepaway Camp - Window with a View
This air is so transparent and detailed. Exciting and not harsh at all
Honestly, i exactly felt the same wow effect and i don't think i'm easy to fool. It sounded like a whole reference master chain on top of the top level. A real nextgen plugin, besides the GUI, but who asks for that with these results? Thank you so much Wytse, greetings from the Grenze zur Niederlande. 😘
I've been using DDMF's MagicDeathEye Stereo on my master busses for a long time now and did not know about the INPUT/OUTPUT link until now. Literaly I did not know about that feature. I've discovered the oversampling feature by mistake a couple of years ago. All in all I find it to be a great plugin that adds a very nice color to the overall tone. I believe it distorts a bit too fast and sometimes it's hard to dial in compression settings on bass heavy music. The EQ and filters are an excellent feature and they sound lovely! I'm glad you got the chance to review it, more people need to know about this!
Been using the "mono" and stereo version for a while now and it works so great on drums and even leads with a big wall of reverb.
I've had this plugin for a long time and its fantastic!
I also asked you about this in a comment years ago. One of my top fave plugins
Must say it sounds really good. It definitely helps the source material
Phewww, I was one of the earlier adopters of the MDE compressors, I am so relieved that you came to the same conclusion! But I guess Ian Sefchick wouldn't have approved it if it weren't good
Love this with the punch mode on vocals!
Thanks for a video, sounds like a great compressor!
The way I like to think of masking is that each ear to brain signal is kind of 'mono-phonic' in a given range. So for example if you pick any given single frequency, we can only hear one thing at that frequency, the loudest thing, for any given moment in time. The masking that happens behind that is absolute only one thing can exist there. Masking to neighbouring frequencies also occurs if the difference in level is big enough (like how an ear ring after an explosion will mute all other frequencies)
This sounds so good. Incredible!
I love your facial expression when you are impressed! 8-)
And you hit with another one... great selection
Thank you! Shoutout to Christian and Ian!
Really Great sounding track
For a plugin, first impression sounds awesome! Remarkable. Sounds as good as hardware for me (on this track)
I have a Transy Stereo and Mono FET Comp, A WA G Comp, and a dbx 266XL AND I can tell you, this thing sounds like a piece of Hardware the Mono and the Stereo these guys are Golden
thanks for doing this
thanks
i ve got the "mono" version, love it! a bit different the curve, its really good! really expansive for us braziliians, but this one worth everey penny!
I love this compressor. I use it on all my mastering chain and also use the mono version on all my vocals when mixing and mastering on my iPhone. I wish I knew how to link the input and output knobs and how to switch the equalizer section to mid/side mode. Please somebody help a brother out. 🙏
Dang, sounded pretty legit... and nice tracks as well brodda!
I been using this compressor for years and I didn't know those controls exist lol
Laura mode as I understand is running the input signal very quietly which changes the characteristics and make things more saturated
Different impedance maybe
this thing is available also for iPad/iPhone , in both original and stereo versions
1:40 important issue and basic misunderstanding in our society these days: we often (read: always) call data information, but data only becomes information when you have a decision rule you can use your data in (and data can make the outcome different ("If it rains I stay in bed" "And if it doesn't rain?" "I stay in bed too")). Many people call their data information, but it often isn't. We often gather data, not information.
There’s a studio in my city that actually has one of these, I believe just the mono version (part of me feels like you can buy a stereo magic death eye but I could also just be dumb and didn’t look at the website before making this comment) but they have an actual hardware Magic Death Eye. When I went to tour the place they wasted no time telling me about it and as much as I wanted to hear it they were booked solid and got me in while they were setting up for what looked to be a gigantic session. I’m hoping to book a session there soon just because I want to run SOMETHING through the MDE but we’ll see whenever that comes
That first song is beautiful.... whoever it is, you've got a new fan in me
most slept on compressor. this thing has been out for years, ive used it on almost every master since. incredibly transparent, awesome glue comp. if only Darude had access to the hardware version when making Sandstorm, he would be a house hold name instead of just a meme.
Damn. You’re blowing up my favorite ITB bus compressor for years! (Outside a Nebula comp by Tim P…). I have the “mono” version of MDE, which basically just can’t do unlinked/dual mono. It’s WONDERFUL. This video makes me want this one too, but rest assured the “mono” version sounds just as good. Very easy to set up with a wide sweet spot, just not as feature rich.
the mono version also doesn’t have an EQ built it so it’s not possible for it to sound just as good. still a great plugin but this one is even better.
@@shayeasy it has a low cut sidechain which is pretty much the only EQ related thing I muck with on bus compressors. I have dedicated tools for EQ moves. When I insert a compressor on an entire bus I want to be solely focused on what it’s doing to the dynamics when I start tweaking knobs. To each their own, but I’d likely seldom use the EQ futures. Dual Mono can be really helpful when it comes to dynamics and stereo image in certain situations, but that’s highly situational. 90% of the time linked channels isn’t an issue for me. I demoed the Stereo version… there’s a difference in box tone. It’s worth having both but for what I do I actually preferred the sound of the “mono” version
@@mrnelsonius5631I prefer the mono. Which I have to say, is stereo
Hey Wytse! I rather liked what this compressor is doing. Gives it so much more Dimension and Depth! That said it's pretty expensive.
Also another review suggestion: The AC-1 Saturator and Downsampler PlugIn from Audio Hertz. I know it's kind of a meme but nevertheless, it that might be interesting and entertaining. Going to try it myself as soon as the AAX version for ProTools get's released.
Every project I've used this MDE compressor on has been approved from the first pass.
I love the "Window with a View" track you use for the 1st demo-thanks for bringing Sleepaway Camp to my attention. A Sweetwater sales engineer who is a guitarist raved about Magic Death Eye as a comp for guitar tracks in the (printed) Sweetwater newsletter sometime in the last year. I kept my eye out for a sale, and picked it up when DDMF discounted it. It's one of those rare compressors that compresses without sounding like it's compressing. It's sort of like a "nicer" knob. I wish I understood what it does and why it sounds so good. Gotta say, though, I really dislike the quirky aspects of the UI; they just seem like quirk for the sake of quirk, and I find them kind of annoying. The sound makes up for it, though. 8-) -Tom
Looking for a stereo vca compressor or plug in to use with synths
I bought it some 2 years ago and use it on everything I ever do
I wonder about hi freqs beyond human hearing - presumably the reproduction device will try to produce them anyway, which might degrade it's performance on the wanted freqs? Same with ultra low bass, so I use low pass at 18 Hz and high pass at 30 or 70 kHz - and 32 X Oversampling on the FF ProL2 (Have to bounce offline for that)
It might not necessarily be about the reproduction device trying to reproduce frequencies outside the hearing range, but more about the response of the filters. A high-pass filter with a certain slope and a certain cutoff frequency means that the attenuation at the cutoff frequency is some specific amount, but the filter will affect sound *above* the frequency as well, until it reaches a point where its response is actually flat - meaning e.g. a 12dB high-pass at 100hz will have *some* attenuation even *above* 100hz (maybe as high as 150? depends on the implementation). And the filter will also affect phase - also even above its nominal cutoff frequency. There are filters which saturate, and saturation generates harmonics, which can extend far beyond the actual filter's operating area in the spectrum. So e.g. a high-pass filter on the kick drum at 30hz might seem like it won't do much unless you have a really beefy subwoofer - but it actually might have a pretty profound effect.
First tune Niiice! Who are they? I had to shazam them...''Sleepaway Camp - Window with a View'' maybe you should put em in the credits...as a courtesy...right? cheers ah yeh the plug is also great reminds me a bit of Kush plugs in the texture
Off topic question: Any of your mastered songs have a LRA of 8+ ?
song name:- Sleepaway Camp - Window with a View
Sounds great, but I wonder if that crackling/stuttering was CPU related?
Anybody know if this thing is a CPU hog compared to other comps?
Would love to hear your take on the invisible pro plugin by aurora
Wytse, how could you get it so wrong? This particular track is not by Sandstorm, it's called Sandstorm. Darude is the artist. Major slip up.
After so many years he still gets it wrong.
I know right? The second Wytse hit the play button I knew it was Sandstorm... by Darude.
rookie mistake, this is unacceptable
And yet he is the one actually doing something productive
@@DarkEtherealRhythm It was a joke, bud. Wytse started it years ago.
sounds like "Fade Into You"
Damn, now I'll be control-clicking all my plugins.
If the equivalent of plugin doctor existed for hardware 50-70 years ago - half the world's classic consoles and outboard units probably wouldn't exist in the form we know them because they would be flawed from a measurement point of view and development would be abandoned or seriously redirected - but they sound fantastic to the human ear. Even oscilloscopes were rare in a lot of small labs in the 50s, 60s and 70s. A lot of development was done by trial, error + ear.
ever on sale?
oh wow sounds like magic
Can you please review TEOTE plugin?
when he says "lets try another track" and it s just the same track (sandstorm) xD
It's so vibey
Measuring speakers is useless unless you also compensate for the length of folds across your earlobes, and that differs for everyone and even between your left and right ear. That short distance might seem inconsequential but don't be fooled, it makes up 80% of sonic mojo
Very interested in the real thing now 😍
I like you Wytse. I'm crawling around under my desk listening to you.
I might be crazy but I've spent the last two days configuring the cassette tape machine I bought from the local junk shop.
Now I can send audio into it and then.... I don't know. Maybe stretch the tape, maybe rub a pen on it? Analog stuff!!
Hey! could you make a snake oil video about In the mix's plugin: Reviver
I just really want to know what would you think of it heh
If something goes wrong it’s not always the plugin. I was so stupid to put pro l2 on k-12 instead of k-14. In my mind k-12 was for music, but instead k-14 is and k-12 is for radio broadcasts so my track was overcompressed and didn’t breathe. I’m so ashamed 😱
It's not cheap, tho.
Does anyone know whether they do sell discounts on black Friday for example?
Sandstorm sounds a lot like easy like Sunday morning by the Commodores
whats the name/artist of the 2nd track? plz no darude meme answer ._.
Loose the Goose by Lucas Pittman
@@martijn_nl preciatecha
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hidden.. well.. one could argue with RTFM ;-).. but I agree that a simple checkbox would do the same thing.
I noticed today that Michael Brauer uses this on one of his busses.
Somebody explain me how to do control click on the iPad version….
I’m also looking for how to link the input and master out on the iPhone. I wish we could get answers.
What’s the song , I searched sandstorm darude and it’s not the song in this video😢
Every song he is playing in every video is "Sandstorm" - no matter how it sounds. Just referring an old internet meme. 😂
Analog Obsession also has the logo as the oversampling button. Not sure why this is a trend, other than to preserve the analog aesthetic.
Name of the song?
hi, can you drop a link of this song or name the song please.
Sleepaway Camp - Window with a View. You will thank me later! God, I love this kind of sound.
I think you may have chosen the wrong version as the main MDE is the silver one. This version is different in some stereo way - same sound/feel tho from what I can hear. Agreed tho that those hidden functions are completely fudging insane usability. The "silver" MDE sounds amazeful the moment you switch it in. The ballistic feel is unique. At least until I reviewed the (distressingly over-priced) UAD Capitol Mastering lure to subscribing which is slightly similar. The MDE I passed on for price and usability. The UAD I completely couldn't see the sense when in A-B in my (still unpublished) review the results were 99.9999999% exactly the same compared to (mostly) stock Reason devices. I could still buy the MDE and have $300 left to buy (most of) Bitwig (or any other DAW that amused me for a laff).
The silver one isn't the "main" one, it's just a mono version that happened to be released first. The black one has a dual-mono option
The silver one is indeed stereo, the one that most people really need for common work. As I said tho, they both sound the same from what I can tell.
@@BenedictRoffMarsh You're mistaken. The silver plugin can process stereo tracks, but the THRESHOLD is what's mono. Meaning, it processes the left and right channel as one. With the black one, it's dual mono, meaning it can compress the L and R as separate channels (as if you've got 2 mono hardware units working on the L and R separately), so there can be slight variances in the L and R. The black can also process as mono (instead of dual-mono) in the same way the silver one can too if so chosen, cos it has both options (it's the "thresh link" switch).
In general, mono processing is said to have more "glue" and "punch" in the groove, while dual-mono is said to have a more "wide" and "open" feel. That's why it's nice to have both options with the black one.
So basically, the silver one is just a more limited version of the black one, cos it can't do "dual mono"
@@Barncore Sigh. I really am not as silly or incompetent as you suggest. Why you getting on me on this I have no idea, I can only assume that you are as silly as you are trying to paint me. Moving forward, go do something useful. Leave me out of your stuff 🖖
plugin makers don’t say their plugins function like analog, they say their plugins sound like analog. and to the point that you had just made, if you can’t hear aliasing on program material, it doesn’t really matter that it’s happening.
Aaah, finally people are starting to understand that the problem wasn't Plugins Doctor, it was the user 🙃
Would love to know who that first artist really is. "Window with a view."
Wytse is literally 3-4 years late to this party. At least he's drinking from the honesty bar logging in what settings and this plugin that he's taking from here!
The MDE is the absolute shit
Wytse, you often say that “analog does not alias” but you actually run your analog gear through DA/AD converters. Did you ever try to measure the aliasing of your ADC? Just like with plugins feed some external analog gear with 10-20 kHz test sine signal, then heavily distort it in analog domain and check what you see back in digital domain. I’m sure it’s interesting test to compare antialiasing filters in analog modelled plugins versus real analog gear plus converters.
That would only happen if you were clipping the converters. If you clip on an analog device, and then gain stage correctly, you would technically be returning to the converter with a clean signal (high headroom) even if it has been distorted by an analog piece of gear. Hope this makes sense. Rule of thumb is clip the analog gear but don’t overheat the converters on the way back in.
If the filter is designed correctly, you should not get aliasing, but of course converter quality does vary.
I’ve got RME M-32 Pro converters…
@@Whiteseastudio Yeah that should do it lol
Is this really you, Vladg? THE Vladg?
I would have been very surprised if you hadn't like this one!
now you know why you should read manuals =D can't rely on UI design...
Michael Brauer uses this plugin. I am still waiting for you to hire a behringer wing and go through its analog plugin emulations. Plus a new tc finalizer mastering software video with you doing a song full mastering session on it.
But it has high quality aluminum screws!
If you get rid of a plug-in without reading the manual, you deserve what you do not get.
That said, hiding features to preserve the "look" of an interface is deeply wrongheaded. It's like not indicating precise setting levels because analogue gear doesn't do so. One of the prime benefits of computers is precision and repeatability. Don't tell me to "use your ears". I know when to do that and I know when fiddling around on an interface in a computer is a pointless waste of time.
So yes, a couple of extra knobs are in order here.
Warum diese Nägel Frage für einen Freund Gruß nach Holland ❤
the vst phones home to the internet constantly when using it, its such a scum move.
Just wondering if there is really a market for a £150 plugin. As great as it sounds it's asking a lot
It really isn't the only plugin at that price. So yes, there absolutely is a market for that. Especially in the professional world.
It's worth that price imo
Hello bro you Can make a tutorial on the mixing vocals rap with plugins reaper please 👏👏👏
Just realized White Sea Studio means Wytse's studio. Zzzzz.
American pronunciation of Wytse, I think. I've heard the real pronunciation a few times, but my keyboard doesn't have the right characters... like Vit-seh maybe but not quite a "v." Anyhoo - the same realization hit me after a couple years of watching. I wanted to tell my wife, but then I would have to actually explain Wytse to her and that is impossible without talking about snake oil and Sandstorm.... too complicated.
It's not bad; but they need to make their "hidden" features visible.
Hidden features is an American thing.. we have fast food restaurants with secret menus… 😁
Why do you say its a title from " sandstorm" ??,
My research says it is
Sleepaway Camp
Window with a View
Is it all snake oil?,
What's impossible?
The plugin does sounds good though...
177€ for a Compressor... No thanks
Looks like a sponsored reaction... it's a VST "emulation", in a digital world... with crackles included...
Really said Darude sandstorm... AGAIN????
mm, it sounds...VINTAGE