Floaty, not Boaty - Cure Your Silverado's Ride with FOX Shocks
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2023
- This is stage 3 of our Silverado Shock Guide, featuring Fox 2.0 IFP shocks. We previously installed Bilstein 5100 and Rancho RS9000XL Quicklift & Shocks, those reviews are available on the channel.
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What a great video.
I have a ‘23 Sierra 3500HD and geez that factory setup sssuucckks
I did some lite off roasting, and it made me hate my truck.
I’ve been looking at leveling the truck over a lift for the ability to still pull a 5th wheel if I want.
This definitely gives me more to go off of
Thanks again
My eyes have been opened, I am reborn. Thank you
I did the FOX 2.0 on the front of my stock 21 z71. F-me what a difference. The "Boatyness" they speak of was my only complaint about my truck. I have these 2 "trenches" I have to go over on my way to work everyday and my front end would bounce until my rear end cleared them too. Gone, all the boatyness is gone. Why doesn't Chevy put a strut like this on the truck from the get go. I highly recommend. Yes they are expensive but this gave my truck the perfect ride it's been missing.
Honestly we have never been anything more underdamped from the factory than these GMs with the stock Ranchos. I think too many people complained about their pick up trucks riding like pick up trucks on the previous generations of trucks and they made a heck of an overcorrection! These trucks are one of the few applications where stiffer is actually better
Yes to the Eibach Pro
You need to add the rear jouce spacers that come on the trail boss, that will help with the Sumospring engagement, and they will work better
Thanks for the tip! We have played with spacing since this video and gotten them all dialed in.
I love the fox 2.0 coilovers on mine but hated the rear. Running deaver m27 leafs and they still felt super chattery and harsh. Feel all the small bumps and even big g-outs didn’t feel that great. Went to them because I thought they’d be softer than 5160’s but I couldn’t have been more wrong. Since then I’ve switched to king 2.5’s in the rear and couldn’t be happier. Soft enough to soak up all the small bumps but stiffen up late in the travel for doing 50+ through the whoops.
So question your running fox 2.0 coilovers in the front and King 2.5s in the rear and they get along with each and give a good ride?
@@chuckschweitzer491 yeah, gonna upgrade to king 2.5’s in the front eventually for shits and giggles but the fox 2.0’s in the front keep up surprisingly well. Truck rides nice and plush on the street, but handles decent sized whoops at 50 mph no problem. I’ve got air a few times not meaning to, and the landings weren’t harsh at all. It’s a really solid setup. If you don’t want to spend king money for the rear bilstein 5160’s are pretty damn good. Was much happier with them than the fox 2.0’s in the rear. If you don’t off-road often then you probably don’t need king 2.5’s and will be happy with fox 2.0’s in the front and bilstein 5160’s out back. If you off-road a decent amount the kings are definitely worth it though.
@@robp418 Thanks for the feedback Rob
Rob did you ever run the bilstein 6112 up front or 5100?
It's a case by case on what suits someone better for their driving style and what they use their rig for. You have people just using it as a daily driver, some that are using it for towing or hauling aka work truck, or turning them into various off-roading rigs. Fox 2.0 were not harsh for our Silverado and we had it on for few months to test everything. We just removed them and putting on Eibach Pro Trucks.
So it seems like the Fox 2.0 are more plush than the Bilstein 5100 which I would prefer for daily driving. I rarely tow. However, off-road, would this “plushness” lead to bottoming out and just being too soft or are they progressive. ‘23 Sierra AT4 3.0 duramax
I have a 2020 Chevy trail boss. I’m planning to get a 2.5” lift but idk what to go with . I do off roading when I go hunting and fishing . Drive through a lot of pot holes . Any recommendations?
I ordered a Fox 2 kit and I have an air lift from the rear. How do you think I will get a comfortable ride and how to set it up??. 35\12.5 R20 F150 2018 Thank you
I just bought a 19 LTZ 4x4 non Z71 sadly. Just wondering what I should set my eyes for when leveling it. I like how plush the suspension is in my normal driving. But some of the big bumps at speed I’ve noticed have zero rebound dampening. Would like to keep the ride as comfortable as possible with way better dampening
Bilstein 5100, Eibach pro Truck, or Fox 2.0
Thank you for the video. I have have the same Silverado but it's a 2020. I it came with the Z71 package and I replaced all 4 shocks with the factory Rancho shocks that came with it thinking it would improve the ride quality because I thought the original shocks were worn out after 34,000 miles. The ride quality really didn't improve. The truck feels like it is bottoming out on the bigger potholes and it rides like crap on on uneven pavement, especially roads with seams. I can feel every seam and bump in the road, and I don't like it. It also bounces when I hit a big dip and it has a lot of body roll when going into and out of a fast corner. Another thing my truck does is the "head toss" when you go up a driveway at an angle.
I should note that my truck does have air bags for towing, could this be affecting my ride quality? I typically have my airbags at about 5 psi when I'm not towing. I should also note that I do almost no off-roading and I have C load rated 275/65 Bajas on it with 35 psi if I'm not towing. My question is, would the Fox 2.0 shocks help with any of these ride quality issues I'm having? Ride comfort on the road is very important to me. Thanks!
The behavior you explained in the first paragraph is spot on, and the exact same thing we experienced with this truck on the factory shocks. Just felt sloppy, especially the driveway / speedbump behavior.
The rear will always ride better when loaded up, so the bags inflated (when not loaded) even a little is going to contribute to ride quality and make it that much worse. Its hard to rescue the ride quality in the rear of these trucks because the leaf spring rate is the biggest factor, you can make it better with some shocks that rebound better than the factory ones (Bilstein, Fox, KYB Mono).
The Fox 2.0 is one of the unanimous answers around here when you want ride comfort on the road without sacrificing handling.
www.shocksurplus.com/products/fox-2-0-performance-series-coilovers-front-pair-for-2019-2022-chevrolet-silverado-1500
@@ShockSurplus Thank you for the reply. I'm planning to remove the airbags and go with the Fox 2.5 Performance Elite Adjustable Coilovers with Resivoire Set. I haven't decided if I will leave the front height stock or lift it 2 inches. My questions are, will this setup reduce the bounce I'm experiencing now? Will the ride feel worse when I go over seams in the road, or will it improve or stay the same? Should I go with a Hellwig sway bars too, or is that unnecessary? I guess what I am trying to accomplish is #1, to eliminate the bounce because I feel it's kind of dangerous. #2, improve the ride quality or at least not make it worse, on crappy roads. And #3, improve control when cornering or towing (I don't tow very often or have a heavy load). I'd also like to improve the offroad capabilities for the rare occasion I may need to go off road to get somewhere.
What wheel and tire size do you have on the Silverado here? Those look about perfect, IMO.
17x8.5 ET0 / 1.75" BS with a 305/70R17
When are the Eibach's going on the silverado? Im very interested in these and also can you get Pro Comp? They have a 2.5 coilover and shock and for these trucks
We just put them on today. The video will be up soon. Pro Comps are in the works also
I want to replace my stock shocks for my 2021 Denali HD 4x4 and keep the same ride height. What do you recommend? I don’t go off road often. I’m thinking about the bilsteins 5100’s. I do have a 20ft enclosed trailer with a can am in it. I pull a boat and 2 jet skis also. I have the boat feeling while driving and not toeing and hate it. My wife’s Yukon does it too. Thanks
If the truck is stock height and you are not really taking it off road much you would probably be much happier with a set of 4600s
So for a 2020 ford ranger, which shocks would be best? It’s a daily driver, but i don’t want to be feeling speed bumps and rough roads, and also use it for going camping every few weeks/months and over fire roads to reach some hiking spots? I also want to have the least rake possible before leveling it. Hope someone answers 😂
If you are not carrying any serious weight or doing any heavy towing with it go Fox 2.0 otherwise if the truck is seeing some load I would go for an Eibach Stage 2 kit with their 2.0 Coilovers
I'd like to level out my 17 z71 double cab. Dont want to do a leveling kit. Any suggestions? I am liking the fox 2.0 shocks
The Fox 2.0s will only do an inch of lift on the front of your truck which is not quite enough to level it. If you like the idea the softer ride they offer, but wanted a little more lift out of the front, we recommend the Eibach 2.0 coilovers used in their Stage 2 lift systems. They are much longer in travel and are adjustable form 1.75-4" of lift in the front, but should really be paired with an aftermarket upper control arm. www.shocksurplus.com/products/eibach-pro-truck-stage-2-coilover-kit-rear-shocks-kit-for-2014-2018-chevrolet-silverado-1500-w-1-75-4-lift
Do these work on their SUV counter parts? Ive been looking to invest on something to replace the mag ride on my 2016 Yukon. I want something soft but that doesnt lean a ton during turns. Street queen for sure, so no off-roading.
There isn't a 2.0 snap ring for your particular application, but if you are switching from mag ride, you would have needed the springs, top hats, bump stops and other parts from a non mag ride model to make them work, so it would end up likely being more cost effective and easier over all to simply just go for the full 2.0 coilovers.
What would you except to feel with the fox2.0 on the front and blistering 5100 or 5160 on the rear. Would that give a softer ride and firmer towing?
In theory yes that may occur (softer in the front, firmer in the back), we typically dont recommend running different shocks, but it wont harm anything.
@@ShockSurplus because I have KO2 10ply tires so I not looking for anything that gives a firmer ride. The ride is firm enough
2020 AT4; thinking of installing Bilstein 5100 ride height adjustable and Bilstein 5100 in the rear. What height would you recommend for best ride quality but also to bring the front end up to nearly level?
Use the highest circlip. We had no issues on the highest circlip on our Silverado but it's non AT4
Thanks guys! Can’t wait to see the Eibach review on your truck.
Would you reccommend this for comfort over the rough country 2inch loaded strut leveling kit. The one that comes with the spring and shock assembly ready to go. Im currently leveled with bilstein 5100s running 295/70/18s ridge grapplers and my ride quality is terrible. Thanks in advance.
Bilstein 6112 and 5100 or Eibach Pro truck stage 2.
@@ShockSurplus will i see a significant difference in ride quality going to the eibach from the 5100s i have now? I wouldnt want to do it if its only going to be a small difference. Im thinking maybe the tires are the problem. Was considering switching to d load vs e load tires. Thanks for your help i love my truck but i have to get it a bit less harsh and bumpy.
@@xxdee1nonlyxxI went down the same route as you man. I got Bilstein 5100 shocks installed along with load range E duratracs. The ride was so harsh I got rid of the tires after only 1000 miles. I swapped them to Hard metric (Non LT) tires and it did improve a lot but the 5100’s were still too harsh. I then went to aftermarket rancho shocks and the rancho quick lift up front. Ride quality is much better now. The ranchos don’t maintain rebound well as stated in the video but they do give you a softer overall ride. So my recommendation is get rid of the LT tires or just swap out the shocks for ranchos (or both). Sure ranchos aren’t the best in the world but it at least gives you that comfort back.
Question, I have a 2015 Chevy Silverado 1500 I don’t do any off-road driving nor do I plan on it. I just wanted comfortable every day riding were I don’t feel ever bump, railroad tracks etc. What would you recommend for front and rear shocks? I don’t care about the price either if they work well I’ll pay for them.
If maximum comfort is your goal the Fox 2.0 is definitely the most plush for the money, but do need fairly frequent service and are limited to just 1" of lift on the front of the 14-18 model trucks. If you are looking for something that lasts a lot longer without needing as much maintenance or offers a little more lift, you will really like the Eibach offerings.
@@ShockSurplusare the 07-13 models limited to 1 inch lift too?
What are the part numbers for the fox setup? Looking to try them on my at4
Note, if you want the Fox 2.0, they will only work as a stock height setup for the AT4. That would be 2 x 985-02-134 for the front and 2 x 985-24-209 for the rear.
I have a 2022 high country 4x4 what do I need to level do I need new uca? And should I go Bilistein 5100 or fox
you wont need a new UCA to level the vehicle, we see lots of 2.5in leveled out trucks without new ucas and without problems. At 3in yes get one.
Check out the Bilstein review on this same truck, those are for quite different drivers / needs. Bilstein for handling, Fox for comfort basically
Did you do the deaver 1.5 leaf springs? I cant find anything on the add a leaf. Do you offer these?
I tried the deaver mini pack on mine and it helped some but honestly doesn’t make a huge difference. It’d be viable if you don’t off-road the truck all the time. I’m currently running deaver m-27 full leaf packs which I believe give something like 1.5” of lift and they make a big difference in ride quality. They aren’t cheap though and they reduce payload quite a bit. If you off-road the truck a lot and don’t tow much then they are awesome. Otherwise for a third of the price the mini packs are pretty good.
For Jeff's Silverado, we ran Deaver N35 that was suggested from them. This is a 1" mini pack. It's not that huge a difference terms of providing more support in weight but it overall provides the height Jeff was looking for. He did add an additional 1" block to get up to 2" in the last setup as well. The block was from Eibach.
just went from the ranchos to the bilsteins 5100 3in, but still running the ranchos upfront. Trying to keep the 4inch lift I have up front. Any recommendations?
We're not sure what vehicle this is for. We assume it's a 21+ Chevrolet or GMC Silverado or Sierra 1500, non-trail boss, and non-AT4. If this is the case, you are either running a full suspension lift or a spacer lift. If you're running a spacer lift, if you can retain the spacer and run the Bilstein 5100 in the front but set a stock height.
I have a 2018 F150 XLT 3.5 4x4 max tow. Factory 20" wheels and factory Hankook tires.. Love my truck!! HATE the ride quality! Please help me fix my truck and tell me what to buy from you. Never off road. Daily driver. Tow no more then 6-7k lbs. I swapped the rear shocks to Monroe. They are worse then factories after 5k miles. The rear end jumps all over the place. I want the best possible ride.
Bilstein 4600 will be a big increase in handling and tightening everything up. Fox 2.0 (like these) are going to soften everything up a bit, but still give better handling than factory. Bilstein best for towing and longevity (100k miles), Fox best for comfort and offroad performance, but need servicing.
www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b6-4600-monotube-gas-oem-shocks-set-for-2015-2019-ford-f150-4wd
Can the fox 2.0 be installed to maintain the standard factory lift settings?
Yup! The 2.0 snap rings like these have a groove for stock height and the 2.0 coilovers can be adjusted down to stock height with a spring compressor, although they come preset to around 2" of lift on most applications. The rear shocks in this package will not change ride height, and will work at stock height.
Waiting on FOX or Bilstein for the new 22-23 Tundra
Dont count out Eibach, who i bet is around the corner with a release. Their 2.0 coilovers earn a spot at the table based on our experiences so far
2019 trailboss, I was thinking of doing bilsteins 5100. Can I run just the shock and be fine at +1.1?
Yup, the front struts are ride height adjustable up to 1.1" of lift using all other stock components
@@ShockSurplus does anyone make and sell aftermarket uca only for these trucks?
Have you been running these with factory springs?
These were using the factory springs.
What do you recommend for 2023 Sierra single cab daily drive on the roads ?
It really depends on your preferences but you definitely do not need much. Fox would be a great choice if you like something really soft and comfy, a Bilstein 5100 or 6112 package would be great if you have to tow or haul or just like razor sharp handling, and Eibach is a great in between shock for somebody who might have a heavy load to deal with from time to time, but still want as comfortable as a ride as they can get when unloaded
@@ShockSurplus Thank you, really appreciate it
What rim and size is he running when he switched from the factory wheels?
Jeff has 17x8.5 +0 wheels and 305/70/17 tires on this 2021 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 RST.
Are your wheels ran with a spacer? I have the same truck and engine and I want to run 34” tires with the 5100s
How do the 2.0s compare to the 5160?
Fox 2.0 felt quite soft for the street compared to the Bilstein 5100. The Bilstein 5160 are the same valving as the 5100 but with the external reservoir. On off-roading, the Fox felt more for stable than they do on the 5100/5160 setup.
Not to mention u will have to rebuild the fox after 30k. And ur gonna pay over 3/4 the $ of the shock to have that done. Ill stick with the bilstein 5100s.
What size tires can I fit underneath with minimum trimming?
2021 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 with 17x8.5 ET0 on 34s 305x70R17
That is what we are running without any trimming
@@ShockSurplus thanks I got a 2021 Sierra with the diesel as well. Love it.
So trying to get new front setup. Looking for something to eat up washboard more but this truck is mainly daily. What you think would be best setup
What are the wheel set up on this
Here is a list of our in house vehicles with the wheel and tire specs.
2022 Ford Bronco with 17x8.5 ET30 plus 1.25” spacer on 37s, 37x13.5R17.
2021 Ram 2500 Powerwagon with 18x9 ET18 on 37s 35x12.5R18
2021 Chevrolet Silverardo 1500 with 17x8.5 ET0 on 34s 305/70/17
2020 Toyota 4runner with 17x8.5 ET0 on 33s, 285/70/17
2019 Ford Ranger with 17x8.5 ET0 on 34s, 285/75/17
2016 Toyota 4runner with 17x9 ET-18 on 35s 35x12.5R17
2015 Toyota Tacoma with 17x9 ET-18 on 37s, 37x12.5R17
2016 Toyota 4runner on 35s 35x12.5R17
2015 Toyota Tacoma on 37s 37x12.5R17
eibachs pro-truck-lift stage 2 fit 2023 silverados?
We assume you have a 2023 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 non-Trail Boss. If this is the case, then fitment in 2019 and up is the same parts and has not changed. However, Eibach and other companies have not all 100% confirmed 2023. You would want this kit here: E86-23-032-04-22 which we do not have listed yet but we can get them. Contact our sales team directly and we'll get it placed.
@@ShockSurplus yes 2023 LT (non trail-boss) ya that’s the same part I’ve been looking at. Stage 2 set up.
@@ShockSurplus lmk when you can confirm they fit I’m in. What would you prefer eibach or fox? I’m more on road then off.
Just bought a 2020 Silverado 1500 LT trail boss that came with a three-inch lift. I offroad a good amount but also load up my truck quite a bit. I want a comfortable yet really plush offroad setup that can still tow on occasion (boats). What should I get? Any help is appriciated
Nobody really makes anything for 3" lift on top of normal Trail Boss height nor do we have anything that will give you that much lift. Truthfully running that much lift on a TB or AT4 is a recipe for CV axle failure if you do not already have a full crossmember drop lift.
whats the most plush ride?
fox 2.0, or custom tuned fox 2.5 or kings, depends on budget too though
@@ShockSurplus I ordered a Fox 2 kit and I have an air lift from the rear. How do you think I will get a comfortable ride and how to set it up??. 35\12.5 R20 F150 2018 Thank you
Bilstein 6112+5160 on my 2023 silverado are super stiff I hate them.
We are definitely in the camp of prefering the firmer ride of the Bilsteins, but if you like something soft Fox 2.0s will be right up your alley
@@ShockSurplus I ordered a Fox 2 kit and I have an air lift from the rear. How do you think I will get a comfortable ride and how to set it up??. 35\12.5 R20 F150 2018 Thank you
On my 2011 Silverado Z71 with crappy Ranchos, I replaced them with Eibachs and the ride was much better. Ranch = Crap
thanks for the feedback, loving our Eibach setup as well on the Silverado (after these Fox)
I must’ve got a bad set of fox 2.0. They ride like trash compared to the 5100’s I just took off.
Ride quality is definitely very subjective, however I would not be surprised. Generally the Fox 2.0s are a good bit more compliant than the 5100s, particularly over smaller bumps at lower speeds, so most people find them to be a fair sight more plush.
Snap ring worries me. All that weight on a snap ring. I want real world reporting.
Bilstein 4600, 5100 and 6112 front strut use a circlip/snap ring which have no cause any issues unless installed incorrectly. We tested these Fox in various conditions to see how much they can handle and they didn't see to give us any issues. It definitely helped on give it more a stable and confident feeling compared to the factory Rancho. It was great for towing but was definitely manageable. They worked great for off-roading out in Johnson Valley but nothing fast or technically, it was to take the side by side out.
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Question if you put Fox 2.0 coil overs on a Tahoe can you adjust to same ride height as stock or are you going to automatically get a 2 inch lift in the front?
It depends on the year of the Tahoe as not everything is available. Please contact us directly and we'll try our best to help you out.
@@ShockSurplus its a 2019 LT 4wd
The fox 2.0 coilover in the front are a 0-1" for the 2019 Chevy Tahoe. You adjust the height back to stock height if you like. 2 x 985-02-018