Communication is key! 🔑 | Advice for Accepting Alters in Dissociative Recovery | MultiplicityAndMe
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Personal experience/advice for both professionals and general population: let's talk about why communicating with alters is important and shouldn't be ignored!
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Jake: *pulls up at the end of the video*
*everyone liked that*
Self analysis is incredibly important for systems as well as singlets. As human beings, it's the only way we can grow 💜
Ohh I love the word singlets !!!
I misread it as "self diagnosis" and was like "Hold on..."
@@hanakosan4404 i read it as ninglets and i was extremely confused
Agree 💯 - and damn it’s tempting to avoid!
My first psychotherapist told me that. When I felt comfy bringing up the DID. He told me to ignore them and they would go away. I at that point was much older 37 or 38. I had ignored them and the issue my whole life. They were still there and only getting more mad and frustrated and making life more difficult. Do not ignore alters and if you are told to ignore them or anything like what she is saying. Please seek out another professional who specializes or knows about DID.
I was just diagnosed and my mother said that I just have to ignore them... I don't know how to start a conversation with her about it
@@yoyoyoyo-lq4jb you don’t have to. Find your support in other places for now. Here for example, also a knowledgeable therapist.
She may never understand (or want to). Not your responsibility.
That idiot. He’d probably have told me to ignore my depression. He should be stripped of his license.
Yes! A met with a therapist and in our very first appointment she told me we would learn to ignore and deny our alters until it was "a convenient time" and then in session we'd ask them to talk about what they wanted to share, and ultimately integrate them. She talked like they were instrusive thoughts, and not alters. It was so disorienting, it felt like she didn't believe me!
I’ve had the same issue too. I also had people perform exorcisms and deliverances on me saying I was possessed. Like no I just have childhood trauma…
I was struggling last night, I hadn't heard from my alters or switched out in months. I said out loud ; I need help right now, and all of a sudden Roni was comforting me, Emily was telling me I would be okay. We all hugged and I felt so safe all of a sudden. Then Emily switched out and took care of me whilst I rested in the headspace. Communication is so important and so helpful ☺️
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we are all still referred to as our body name and called 'delusional' despite being diagnosed by our psychiatrist as DID- she doesnt want my parents to 'encourage it', exactly as you said. i've sent my dad this video, to try and explain how we feel about it, thank you and wish me luck!
Oh goodness me, best of luck! I hope she can understand 💖 the ISSTD guidelines also break it down if it’s of any help to her
I don't mean to speak out of turn, but have you considered getting a different psychiatrist? At least consider it when you become a legal adult.
@@royce6485 thank you, i am considering it hen i turn 18 (currently 17) but psychiatrists that specialise in DID are often expensive and hard to get referrals for
@@Nova-fn8nd any updates?
@@sleepygene i have a much better psychiatrist who diagnosed me three months ago :)
I'm curious if anyone else feels like this is an apt metaphor for telling someone with DID to suppress their alters:
If you get severely injured, going into shock is likely to kind of disconnect you from the pain and the reality of the injury, which helps keep you alive and functioning until you get medical care to address the injury. If a day or so later, the shock wears off, and you suddenly feel the intensity of the pain from the injury and you start trying to treat the pain, you aren't indulging in your body's "delusion", you're addressing a problem that *needs* support and assistance. Just because the pain was hidden from you to begin with doesn't make it not real when it shows up later.
This doesn't quite address the mechanism of dissociating from your *identity* specifically, though, which is where I think people get stuck. Seems like most people can understand dissociating from your body or from your emotions or from your memories, but not from who you are.
Yeah the identity is the trickiest for the layperson to understand - but psychologically it works exactly the same as a physical injury. The identity disconnect happens after disconnecting from the body - you can be watching your body from afar and the dissociation makes you confused and you might ask, "who's that getting hurt over there? That's horrible, thank god I'm not them. I couldn't handle that." People think those thoughts all the time, when we see a sad news story or someone confides in us. Some things are too painful for the brain to even imagine it happening to YOU. To survive, for now, we must be convinced that this happened to someone else who we don't need to have empathy for.
When you said "[DID] is about identifying your blueprints between each alter..." you hit on it exactly with us! Collaboration, structural planning, communication has all been SO important for us from the moment we knew about each other, and that's why we decided to call ourselves The Blueprint System a few weeks ago!
as a singlet the integration part is pretty much what im doing with my trauma but its just me and my subconscious. slowly gaining more insight on my past and how it effects who i am today and how to move forward with that.
Jess you are glowing ❤ motherhood really suits you
Thank you 🥰💖 feeling happier and so much more self love now more than ever xx
We agree. It's like.. uhm.. prettiness from the onside out.
I know Whats your skincare
We use cleansers and moisturisers from Lush 😊💖
I've recently got diagnosed with traits of DID? And I don't understand how that is possible . Trying to learn more about it and it's a bit scary to me to understand that my voices aren't just voices but actually alters that I've been hearing and not just my inner dialogue. I've had a few episode of amnesia and it's scary not remembering what I did during these times. I like this channel it's helping me alot to come to terms and how to cope with this new journey I'm on :) I love you Jess hope all is well ♥️♥️
Thank you 😊 always speak to a professional for clarification and an action plan to best support you 💖 good luck on your journey
Think it this way: if you've DID, you've always had it, since you were little. Awareness is what's new in it, not them. You're gonna be fine.
Don’t be scared, you’ll take a bit of time to get used to the idea but you’ve got this 💪🏻
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@@fourteens2336 Oh my, thanks, I needed to read something like this, even though it wasn't for me in a first place, it helped ♥✨
I am LIVING for the fact that your eyeshadow matches your sweater, that's amazing. Also, great video, I loved watching it!
ed overdid himself
Jess, you look absolutely beautiful and I know sweet Evie has everything to do with your glow from the inside out. Please give our love to the entire family, Evie, Gaz, Ed, Jamie, Jake, and Ollie.
P.S. We are so very happy that Ed is finding his way back to happiness and comfortability.
All of the rainbow made my entire life happy. I needed the sweet rainbow sparkle of Jess today. Thank you. ♡
This is an extremely important video for people with DID! If I was just continued to be shut away, I would be in a far worse state than I was before. It's thanks to us discovering this sort of advice that we're now on the road to recovery. I hope many other people with DID or conditions similar watch this and know how important this is, coming from an alter who used to be shut away continuously. It really made things worse for us. Thank you so much for making this 💜 - Eris, a persecuter
P.S. I immediately went to Amazon to see if they have a CPTSD journal, and they do! Bought as a Christmas gift for me from all my ages! Thanks, Jess, for bringing awareness to this!
Ohh I didn’t know this and that’s great 😄 thank you for letting us know!
Cptsd from surviving to thriving by peter walker is really good
@Colleen Stockfleth CPTSD is Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It's good to ask questions and talk with your doctor(s) about. I wish you much help and support!
The Dissociative Identity Disorder Sourcebook by Deborah Bray Haddock helped me more than any other book I read on the topic and I read plenty of them when I figured this out in therapy years ago.
I have the same journal, I found it on Amazon it was fairly cheap so I bought it. But seeing so many other people using it made me feels so much more vaild in buying it! I was really unsure whether the journal was a good or bad idea but it has helped us communicate so well!
I always love how clear you talk. Everyone in your system have their own way of bringing information across and in my opinion all of you are great in doing so.
This is an incredibly difficult topic to talk about and you're doing it very well. I just want you to know that your skill in speaking and presenting is very very good.
Ps: You look absolutely wonderful
Your channel made me strong enough to admit that I needed help. Thank you so much (a fan from South Africa)
It's really great to hear from Jake. I hope he's doing better. He sounds happy which is great.
Jess, thanks so much for checking in! It's so nice--especially to have a post on a Sunday! I love your look today--Looks like you and Ed may have collaborated? Your points of communication are both relevant and vital for most relationships. Thanks again!😊👏❤
We're a more newly "discovered" system of alters, and our host is being very mindful to make sure he's not adopting a label that doesn't belong to him. Seeing videos like this encouraging communication between us are a blessing, and it's helping each of us understand that just because our host is now aware and trying to gently get to know us, it's not a bad thing and not going to put any of us in danger. Of course, some of us are more excited and ready then others, but we're making sure all is taken at the right pace for each one of us.
A lot of your videos have helped our host understand and feel like he's less confused and less terrified of what he's realised about himself and our mind.
We'll be seeking medical aid as soon as its judged to be safe for us to do so, so we can then start the journey to finding out where we fall in medical definitions there are out there.
We use like spiral-bound regular lined paper notebooks for journals, writing to each other on things... and a bullet journal apart from that to like track time out and like chores and stuff
Before you said Jake must be around I sensed him and hear more American accent. Amazing that you have done such a great job at letting us get to know them all so we can now see who maybe around more or coming forward. So glad you bring awareness not just for DID but just mental health in general.
Jess & Jake & co.: Thank you so much for this! I have OSDD- and I really needed to hear this today. I started my recovery journey in my 20’s. Now I am 60 and still here, working on recovery. It really is a JOURNEY. I find that I STILL have to work on communication with my folks and it IS STILL work. Communicating with people is very productive but we aren’t used to doing it right now and if I don’t make a time for this activity every day, people just slide back into their numb, stuck norms. 🙄 SO, I really needed the encouragement of this video. Thanks again, so very much.
I love all of you!! I love the family you are and the live you have for
One another ....Jess you will never understand what you have done by creating this channel giving so many hope to move forward ....love from Onatrio Canada
That book is amazing and I so hope some systems who really need this can get it. We're not new to this journey but I can still see it being very helpful for us at the stage we are too. Take care Jess & Jake (and the rest of the gang) ❤️ Good luck to those who enter, wishing you well on your journey whatever stage you're at. ❤️ -Dani
Thanks for the video, I learned a lot! Also, I love your eyeshadow, it looks amazing ❤️
Thank you so much Autumn 😊💖
Agreed, the eyeshadow is absolutely fantastic
Absolutely loved this video, it was so nice to see Jake looking so upbeat and your makeup is absolutely stunning!!
Jake's clip at the end was everything! lol
FOR MANY OF US, IT'S NOT A DISORDER, IT'S A STRENGTH!
love the rainbow theme
Thank you 🌈 it was a fun change 😊
Your system has helped me and my alters learn more about ourselves and DID as a whole so much, thank you for being such an inspiration and amazing role model
I loved the rainbow themed motion graphics; they looked very professional and slick for this video! Also the bubbly outfit and makeup are so joyful!
Love your shirt!!
For anyone listening I have felt psychosis and delusions with bi polar disorder and we are also a system. When she says they are different she's not kidding. TOTALLY different experience from DID!
I'm currently learning about my alters! Hoping to Amazon now for one of those as I know it will help. I just started drawing them and its opened up so much.🌻💛 Thank you!!
We stopped our Livestream to watch this 🥰 we're going to reschedule our Livestream for later today 😅
I've never paused and ordered something more quickly in my life!
I wish I got the notification when it first came out, stupid CZcams. I love this editing, it's really cute, guys
Oh Jake you are just a little bundle of energy aren't you 😂
We've only recently been given a diagnosis but some of the alters have been aware of each other for years... Its just stupidly difficult to get an actual diagnosis on the NHS!
Even though we've known of each other for a while now, we still have communication issues and not everyone is aware of each other. Our inner world is vast and we have a lot of non fronting fragments (npc's) so it is often difficult to differentiate who is who and who is doing what.
We've ordered a bullet journal to better keep track of our life and our system.
Yay I’m so happy for every video!
As for the journal i found the happy planner has the happy journals where you can create your own notebook. They have removable pages (with decorative rings to bind them together) that you can add to the book. They have planner pages, notebook pages, gratitude pages, emotional check in pages. Its fully customizable for whatever you need. You can divide each secion for each alter (so they can have separate journals) i think they have a hole punch to make the special holes needed to fit the pages so you can make your own pages to customize them to your needs. You can find the happy planner with all the customizations at any major craft store like hobby lobby and michaels.
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I HOPE EVERYONE HAS THE LOVELIST OF DAYS TODAY AND FOR THW rest of this TIME LINE your all valid Except my spelling ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
You guys have been so great and helpful!!! I don't have DID but I because of this channel I realized that I do dissociate and derealize whenever I process trauma. I brought it up to my therapist and now I'm more aware of myself so seriously, thank you all!
love you all!! so glad to see your new video
I find it crazy seeing how some professionals say to ignore them or say they're not reall, well our therapist says to communicate, to talk, and to process, and he doesn't even specialize in DID or dissociative disorders in general, and it just makes us so grateful to have him as our therapist
I appreciate you all!
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for making another great video!!
I like how well researched and cited your videos are. I learn something every time I watch
Loved the informational video as always Jess, amazing eye make up btw. And the editing was really well done so hats off to that
Such a brilliant video! Thankyou! We are finding the more we unblend and validate each of us, the more connected we feel so we can kinda see how integration occurs and are developing and understanding of what integration will be for us. We will always be multiple entities but more cohesive and less amnesia and co-operating as a team. This video is so clear and helpful Jess Thankyou and def getting that journal! We have printed out so much stuff we have self created that help us identify each of us if feeling blurry and work through flashbacks and trying to keep some functional order in daily life with a tasks sheet to be signed off during the day as we are rapid switching and finding there are way more of us than first thought. Such a helpful video Thankyou 💜 - Ange
I have always loved watching all of the videos you all make. I love being informed more and more what I feel is correct and positive information about DID.
I would think even if you don’t like your alters or if you’re afraid of what they may be like, it may be helpful to learn about them anyway just so you know who all you’re sharing your life with!
This is true! Sometimes it can be dangerous though. In our system alters introduced themselves to me slowly one at a time. Because meeting each person meant coming to terms with the trauma that shaped them. And I had no memory for this trauma, so it was my first time hearing about it. It's definitely not helpful to meet alters too quickly - that's how you end up on suicide watch lol. For us and lots others, it's best to go slower than you want to.
I love the starry top 🥰 I wish I had such awesome resources for my own disorders and I'm so glad you're there putting such wonderful stuff out ❤️
I just wanted to say that I love what you guys do and I am so happy I found your channel. I have learned so much and while I personally am not a system my partner is and I have shared your videos with them and we are going through their journey together
awesome makeup Jess! did you do it today?
you didn't talk too fast, it was fine. :)
hi Jake!
Thank you for this! Also, I adore your makeup in this video!
Watching you makes me remember how special we are, having alot of invalidation in our day to day lives having a place to come to that is both informative and celebrative of DID soothes our soul
y'all make my day I so look forward to your videos
OH my. That clock! it is so cool!! Great video too!
I have this book and it has helped SO much! I was thinking in the back of our head....doesnt that sound like...our journal? OoO then it was! Such an amazing book! Love y'all.💙😭💙😭
Sooooo glad you found it helpful! 🥳
i cant concentrate. Im just staring at your jersey. Its so amazing-- i know the girls in my system would love it too. The stars and everything is just so beautiful
Thank you for making all these clips for us, grateful and I don’t feel too left out in the multiple planet. 😃🌻
So good to see you making reg vids again! You look Amazing and your makeup is on point per usual! Love and prayers to all of you❣🥰❤
Thank you lovely 🥰
Thank you for this awesome recommendation, going to check out that journal!!!
p.s: Jake is such a sweetheart! 💗
Thank you so much dears
Haha Jake at the end! YEAH!!! I'm punching the air with ya, Jake!
Your videos really help us out and so many other DID systems! Keep at it! - Lynn
Your makeup is on point!!!
Also great video!!
Am late to comment but it was nice to have a Jake easter egg at the end!! Thank you for all of the education and explanation!
That book is brilliant!
I don't have DID but I still love your videos. They are educational and entertaining. I work in pharmacy and love to learn about anything medical related may those be physical conditions or mental health. Some days this even comes in really handy as I may be the most knowledgeable in my team and able to support someone in need, whatever it may be about. I look forward to to your uploads all the time 😊 I very rarely comment but wanted to say how great I think you are and how much I learn from you. ❤️
That’s wonderful! Thank you so much 😊
Amazing makeup look😍
Hello! This is really helpful!
I am new to figuring out DID and communicating with alters. I was diagnosed sort of recently and I've just been looking at videos. Therefore, I'm very grateful for this. Thank you very much! Uh, with our system we have 3 alters total so far. One of my friends named us Mini Cortex. :) I asked them what I should name our system and that's what we got.
You had the perfect video at the perfect time
I see a specialist in DID and dissociative disorders Tuesday!!! and all of a sudden I'm freaked
I need to get to someone that understands why I have these blackouts but I drive, shop and stuff or find that all I did was have cocoa and cinnamon toast for 48 hours and no memory.
This has been my whole life but I couldn't tell anyone usually if I tried to talk the blackouts got worse and the nightmares that I would die or all my animals will die became impossible to concentrate and I'd get bedridden. And I'd stop.
Thank you I needed to hear that I need to reach out to whatever is happening and know that the scariness is just old protection , trying to stay steady , smile hold my head up one foot in front of another.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Best of luck with the specialist 😊
On a side note, I am loving your makeup 😀❤️
OH AMAZING! thank you for sharing! we made our own version of this ish in a notebook but we shall definitely be investing in one of the DID journals once able ^.^
I basically know your opening line word for word (I watch you guys a lot) but aside from that you look absolutely beautiful Jess! I looove the editing on this video as well.
Btw: Hi Jake!! It’s always nice to see you. Hope you’re doing well
I love love love your Rainbowtheme :)
Can we talk about how amazing her makeup looks? 😍
that eyeshadow tho
Im lovingggg your make up
Gracias por tu aporte a la comunidad
Violet made a joke while i was fronting around the school counselor once. I chuckled and apologized, explaining that they couldn't hear the voices in my head. She looked me in the eye and said "the voice is (insert body's name)." I just made a "eeeeeeeh" noise and she completely dismissed it. Saying that we were one person. I dunno how to explain to them that we're parts and they don't want to reveal themselves. The host has decided to going back to ignoring us for the moment because she wants to be normal. I feel bad for her.
~Olivia; Brigid Nix System
Oh my gosh you look amazing in this video!!!
Thank you 🥺😍
All the best to the system, Gaz, and Evie(?) 💕
Great video. Hi Jess and Jake.
Forgot the original question/topic by the end and had to rewatch the start!!! 🤣😂
Thank you so much! -Aambr ✨
Hi Jake! It's been awhile! Hope you all had a happy Halloween/October! 💖
im struggling to communicate with a possible headmate called coco and this video helped so much :')
thank you
another great idea similar to a journal is to make your own private discord server & get the SimplyPlural app.
on my discord, i have channels for notes on did/trauma, logging/updating alter profiles, anyone to write anything on, pluralkit/tupperbox commands, venting, and each alter.
also, the SimplyPlural app is amazing for logging switches, keeping track of alters, making profiles for them, and can even update your friends on who is currently fronting. (if they have the app and add your user.) it really is a godsend.
Great video, once again! -Julia and Jesper (co con)
I remember when my psych told me to essentially stop fighting with my alters. I was feeling so much dread and fear over losing time due to dissociation and the way he explained it was "They're knocking at your door but you're trying to block them out. So, it kind of makes sense they'll try and sneak in through the back door! If you offer up the chance for them to come 'in' when they want to, perhaps that fear will lessen over time." We started a small journal too to communicate with each other, and though I go through periods of little to no dissociation (Pysch believes I have OSDD), when they do ''knock'' at the door, I allow them in now ;;u;;
I love your makeup
I absolutely know that we need to connect with each other, but our therapists aren't helping us learn how to connect because we aren't diagnosed yet, which is so frustrating. I know we need communication but I don't know how to do it. This helped me understand some bits of it, but it sounds like a lot of work.
- Jamie (host)
TW mentions of trauma and types not graphic
I am still new to all of this. I was born into trauma. From the moment I was born I got sick and “died” repeatedly. That lead to me becoming disabled. Then my home life was a mess. I didn’t have a stable home until I was 15 when the abusers (2) left the home, my dad (drug addict) died, and my health got ok when I was 18. My health has also caused trauma. I didn’t notice I had symptoms until a few months ago. My boyfriend found out about DID and has been telling me for two years he thinks I have it but I never remember those conversations. It has been me chasing my tail honestly. We have sat down and throughout my life I have done things I would never do and don’t remember huge moments of my life. At one point I told my sister “Olivia (me/host) died and Oliver is here to replace her” she assumed I was trans. I was 8 when I said that. Just random things like that happened.
And growing up I started having imaginary friends and created worlds to live in. Like I would disappear for hours inside my head. I have spent 16 hours straight (yes I know based on when I got off my phone that night and looked at it again the next time I had no idea) inside my head in this world I created. It started when I was 3 I think. I was 3 or 4 when I got my first two imaginary friends. Tina and Lee. They were brother and sister I think. They were like parents to me. Protecting me from my family. Then I made Kyle, he was created to protect my sister from harm. These three I could call on and they would protect me and those I care about. I dont know this probably doesn’t make sense. I’m honestly so out of it I don’t know what I’ve typed. So yeah I’m sorry 😂
Love your eyeshadow!
Thank you 🥰
Thank you so much for another educational video!!! Unfortunately Covid got me and I'm in isolation, but you make me so happy! Love the make up and the sweater, where is it from? I'd like to see if it suits me! Lots of love, hugs
It’s from Harkel clothing 😄 they do such cute clothes! Feel better soon 💖
Wow! I will have to look into journaling. I haven't really done it before. Hug 8))
I recently got diagnoses with DID and I've learned this too, that communication between me and my alters is key! My therapist emphasizes a lot that we are a system that needs to work together. So conversations with my alters have gotten more frequent and more common lately. I used to dread when my main alter came out - I wouldn't be able to function and I kind of ignored the issue. It drew me into a more negative space. But when I got to know my alters, especially a specific one (we don't know her role yet) I noticed my life became more positive and less chaotic. I agree with this video and I got really excited to see you cover something like this because navigating my system can be so hard sometimes.
Anyone out there just feeling symptoms of DID: You're not alone, there are wonderful people who will support you and your system.