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âHe collapsed, I think he blacked out, but he PRâedâ this is definitely the runners mentality. Doesnât matter how you feel after the finish line. Lol
Would be fun to listen to Seth and Jordan banter about their two runs together on the blog. đ
I laughed at this as well đ
Matters to me. I'd rather not be blacking out from an activity that is supposed to be centered around improving fitness. Seems like a bad risk to take.
@@topoisomerace I think you're on the wrong channel lol.
C O N G R A T U L A TI O N S !!!!! JORDAN on your PR. DAMN tough guy! I love it!!
Tee Shirt: "I grieved, I grieved......for 2 miles - c'mon now!"
Excellent content and even better perspective as usual, SJD. đđť
The end of the this blog is why I watch you daily, Seth. Your ability to frame disappointment and work through the grieving process is an inspiration for me as someone who struggles with letting things go. Thank you for your words of wisdom!
Sad I didnât catch you at Mile 25.5 but I was way busier handing out towels (all those orange Strava rally towels - that was me!) than I expected. Way to tough it out! Definitely had my share of stomach trouble during races and itâs rough. Kudos!
LOVE this QD!! Chicago 2021 was a HUGE disappointment to me! I had side stiches from MILE ONE...fought through mile 13 (stayed on pace); but then I realized I had worked way too HARD ...started to feel dizzy and couldn't take the side stiches anymore (they felt like kicks on my right side)...I cried (that was my way of grieving) and kept on walk/jogging to the finish line. It was sad and the hardest thing I had to do; but crossing that finish line and throwing a fist bump up in the air FELT AMAZING!!! Together WE fight through :) thank you Seth for ALWAYS inspiring DGR!!!
Hi buddy, great vlog.
Hereâs an idea though: because you had an upset stomach, you have all this fitness still, as you were cruising the 2nd half of the NYC Marathon.
Why donât you try & find a Marathon nearby within the next 2 weeks? Iâm sure you can carry all this fitness over.
I saw Lionel Sanders, top notch triathlete, blow up in a race once, due to nutrition issues (walking the last 15 miles of the Marathon or so) & winning a few weeks later, as he carried all this fitness over.
đĽđĽ Lionel
We would all love to see this !! DO IT SETH
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@@SethJamesDeMoor does this mean your going to try? I know when I had an epic blow up recently the first thing I did was look for a redemption marathon ASAP. Keep up the good work Seth. Iâve been following you for a few years now and you have gotten me through the birth of my first child, my divorce and multiple races. You should look at Gold Coast marathon next year in July. Fast, flat and beautiful for a holiday. Some big names come over too. Theyâre is always a big pack for 2.20 runners too
Lionel is a boss!!!!
Seth's response to Dennis' question about his anger and frustration (or lack thereof) really made me think of how I respond to my own failures, and how my response has evolved over the years. I think a lot of my youthful anger and frustration was caused by a stubborn reluctance (even refusal) to grieve. I suppose I associated grief with weakness, but now I see that it is an essential first step toward forgiveness and redemption. When we grieve we acknowledge our fallibility and humble ourselves before the things we can't change or control; in this way grief can be immensely liberating. I think one mark of a champion is the speed with which they face, acknowledge, and move through adversity -- these mental and emotional feats can seem almost as impossible as their physical achievements, until you realize that they are one and the same thing! After running nearly 1000 miles in 9 weeks, Seth grieved for only 2 miles before getting his mind right; I consider that just as incredible as running a sub 2:23 marathon.
Probably my favorite blog that youâve ever done. Grief or 2 miles, then seek beauty. Life is to be lived, not regretted.
Seth - Iâve liked youâre introspection.
Several things stand out for me - 1 obvious - 1 super obvious.
Air B&b option - definitely
The main observation: I watched you eat too many things that might cause you issues.
You may have eaten them in the past - but your consumption in total volume pre race looked like a lot!
Everyone has what works for them - I took porridge oats with me to Boston - I have used gels (torq) over the year that have been manageable. However, I still donât feel right in my stomach.
I switched to dextrose tablets - taken over most of the 5k splits with just water and have had no stomach issues since. Your body can convert dextrose more easily to fuel your leg muscles. Dextrose passes the lining of the stomach with ease - and protect your glycogen stores. You also feel that energy lift!
I ran the 2021 Boston marathon on porridge & honey breakfast and 5 dextrose tablets - keep it simple!
Respect to you my NYC was in 2016 đ
QOD: Seattle 2019, my brother and I were on pace for sub-3 through about 18 miles... then the cramps came. We clenched our teeth up and down the hilly finish and my brother ended up collapsing at the finish line. I wasn't too far from that fate myself. We have been using that experience as fuel for two years and are excited for a redemption race this Thanksgiving weekend. We completely re-thought nutrition/hydration, running gear, injury prevention, and most importantly increased our long run mileage (thanks for the inspiration!). This failure has been the best thing that ever happened to my training. It completely refocused me and reminded me how huge a challenge we were taking on and how blessed we are to have this opportunity again.
Well said. Take a marathon for granted and it'll teach u some lessons sooner or later
I had a really similar experience to Seth at the 2019 Boston Marathon. From stopping in a peak race when you never thought you would to having stomach issues after eating regular things to what you are used to (despite his portions comment). I feel like if you run enough races you will probably have a day like this. Props on finishing Seth, you are the man!
QOD: Seth, I just had a race go off the rails for me as well at the Boilermaker 15k on October 10th. The excitement of starting with the sub-elites, inches from the start line, got the best of me. Went out to fast and I knew it by mile 3 when the body said NOPE NOT TODAY! I was able to dial things back with my pace and hang on just enough to hit my B goal. Post race I told myself that I still accomplished a goal I had set and though it was not the performance I wanted, I felt fortunate just to be able to have the unique experience I had that I may never get again.
Boilermaker is a tough course. It's hilly and some of those roadways/sidewalks are narrow and lead to bottle necking.
I'm 72 and ran NYC, I have a 2 cents worth thought for what it's worth. Although you trained extensively in the mountains and speedwork on the track, you also need to do long runs on the road at or near your marathon pace. Your body may have adapted to long climbs at altitude up mountains, but not in maintaining sub 6 min./hr. paces over 26.2. You had a perfect storm of stressing your body with the pace over more miles, and trying to digest large amounts of unfamiliar foods. Credit goes to you for not quitting, but letting go of goals A, B & C and slowing your pace and enjoying the crowds and the experience. This gave you time to recover and pick up the pace to finish.
Iâve run that race 5 times when it was hosted in July and I think the only time it didnât feel like I went off the rails was the last time in 2019 lol. Tough course! Good for you for lacing up against the sub-elites!
It is very easy to go out too fast at that race and then hit those golf course hills around mile 3! It could have just been one of those days your body wasn't having it, but I'd also look at what your prep looked like leading up to the race. Perhaps you were overtrained or didn't have enough rest? Again its not an easy 15K but congrats on finishing it and hopefully celebrated at the brewery. Maybe you jump into Stockadeathon this weekend in Schenectady?
I'd love an interview vlog with Jordan.
Good video again.
QOD: I DNFed a 90k mountain ultra 4 weeks ago, because I twisted my ankle around the 40k mark. It was my first 50k+ trail in over 15 years, felt good physically despite the horrible weather, so I was really bummed, but what could I do?
Well, I could go to the PT after, get rehabilitated, and get ready for my creation, the Grand Eastern Traverse Fata$$ Race (GET Fat for short), a trail race among friends I started last year. A few days removed, I feel great, and my platinum goal is shaving off over 50 minutes on the distance - which I call a full marathon plus a fart because it's bit over the marathon distance - is attainable I believe. I'll be happy just to PB.
The upside of DNFing is the effort wasn't too taxing, so when I restarted training, I wasn't in recovery mode. This is perhaps why my goal of going sub 7 hours is feasible I think.
Keep on moving.
Addendum: I think your stomach issues were due to a lack of butter (buddah in NY twang) to your Bobos.
You inspired me to race. Never raced before or even run much past 5k and I just completed my first 10 mile Mountain goat race. I had runners knee a month before the race and took that month off from running. Then at the last minute I said I need to do this and signed up 4 days before the race and beat all my goals and finished. Thank you for your stories and your positive attitude. Much love to your family and I hope to meet you in NYC 2022
Race not as the plan : Tor des Geants 2019.
My first TOR, I planned sub 130 hours based on my finishes in other major races (UTMB, Eiger, etc.), but after 220 km, while I was in top 300/1000, I totally crashed due to sleep depravation and left ankle inflamation. I wanted to stop, while being very in advance on the cutoff times.
A friend who I ran with, and that already finished TOR 3 times before, told me : "In TOR, you do never give up, if you have time, you use it in full. You are tired ? Then sleep, and continue after. You get out only when you miss a cutoff."
I continued, despite having more and more difficulties to do so, physically and mentally (but not to a point of non return) , to cross the finish line in 146h, with 18h of sleep in total. Race limit being 150 hours.
I learned so much, the envelop can be pushed way beyond what you think, giving up is not the answer, resting is the answer, and the journey is the target.
This is my worst ITRA score, but my best ever finish/memory: earning the title of Giant.
I will be on the starting line again in 2022 :-)
Your an amazing inspiration! I had a sub 2'50 (London marathon 2016)attempt scuppered around mile 16 as I was cruising average pace 6'24 per mile then bang! A sharp pain in my calf (grade 2 tear diagnosed afterwards) I stopped and cried for a minute or so pondering what to do......I did as you did....Grieved for a while then continuing on where I limped/jogged the last 10 miles to finish in 3'12 and still got a good for age qualification time! This was one of my greatest achievements! Thank you for all you do Seth! You are amazing đ â¤
So much respect for a guy of your standard humbling up and finishing the race anyway. Not many would do this let alone create content about it, what a legend!
I would have been very, very impressed with top 3 American, sub 2:20 or PR. But to be able to turn around after two miles of grieving and enjoy the last ten, soaking it in and sharing it along the way? That takes guts and immense character. What a stellar example for all of us.
Best morning routine ever - brew coffee, watch Seth's video, brew more coffee, turn the doorknob!
I do just the same. But i watch it after i have been outside. So i have something to look forward to when home :)
Sorry you had a rough day and didn't hit your goals, but you are a joy to watch and love your honesty and spirit. Had a similar experience one year at Boston when I couldn't control my diet the days before and on marathon day because I was staying at a hotel with no microwave/refrigerator. I don't have issues with bananas or coffee, but do with fatty sauces and too much fiber the day before. So, now, always have to have at least a frig and microwave to make rice and potatoes, and I am good. Lessons learned.
QD: London Marathon last month - I have never felt better two weeks before a race, but I got into a cycling accident with one week to go (I got cut off by a motorcycle, ouch!), which put the race in doubt. I made it to the start line and went out at my goal pace, only to hit a brutal wall with 10km to go. I've never had so much pain during a race, but just refocused on finishing, and used the amazing London crowds and atmosphere to help push me along. Nowhere near the time I wanted in the end, but I still smile each time I look at that medal and think about those amazing crowds!!
Love your energy, Seth! Iâve blown up during 3 races. Most memorable was at Revel Canyon City. I came through the Half on fire, I think 6 min ahead of goal. Then, I blew up a mi 18 and was slowed to a walk. The last 10k was HORRIBLE! I still PRâd, but swore Iâd never run another marathon. Then, a year later, I went back to Canyon City, beat my previous time by 15 min - and BQâd. Good luck at NYC 22 - we all you know youâll be back!
Old man strength plus old man wisdom. The beauty is in the struggle. Look forward to following you to your next race
QD: On the same day you were running the marathon in NYC, I was running the International Samarkand Half Marathon in Samarkand, Uzbekistan.
It was my first ever race outside of my home country Kazakhstan, and a great training block leading up to the race had me feeling confident! I even brought my whole family out to explore the area before and after the race.
However, arriving late into Samarkand by train, accompanied by serious accommodation issues meant we had to search for a different hotel at night and went to sleep much much later than planned and simply MISSED my wake up alarm đ¨ The result? I had to get ready in a heartbeat and just RAN 3.3K as fast as I could to the starting grid like crazy, but the gun went off and I missed the group start of the raceâŚseeing the massive crowd run towards me, while I was running towards the starting arch to get my chip activated was a nerve-wracking experience, especially when some runner were yelling at me that I was running in the wrong direction (little did they know)âŚ
So, the first 1k-2k was hell and an emotional turmoil, but thankfully by 3k was able to take control of my emotions and ultimately I PRâED for the half marathon with a time of 1:52:53 đĽ
If not for those issues I wouldâve definitely done a sub150 but I guess Iâll leave this for Istanbul Half Marathon in March 2022 đĽ
Thanks for all you do and share and for being open and vulnerable. Must say, as an observation in your vlogs leading up to the event, I was a bit surprised by the deviation from your usual diet. If I event away from home, I pack a cooler with exactly what I usually eat. A bit difficult if you leave 3 days ahead, but in that case I definitely avoid restaurants and go to the grocery store. Training nutrition is as important as the other stuff.
yesyesyes!! i agree!
Love your videos! I have never done an official race at any distance.. my first ever race will be a half marathon I am running in 1.5 weeks! Your videos continue to motivate me and I love the positivity!
QOD: I am pretty new to distance running. I ran my first marathon on October 2nd this year and was feeling amazing until the half marathon point. We were running on Santa Fe trail in Colorado Springs and when I turned at the half mark, my tricky right ankle gave out and slammed me into the gravel so hard that my Garmin alert went off. With my knees bloodied, I tested my ankle, deemed it fine, and continued on. Around mile 20, my left knee was starting to swell and the pain forced me to walk in stretches. I could handle uphill, but downhill was agony. I finished but was emotionally raw and felt like I had failed.
Five weeks later, I ran my first 50k with the goal to finish with a smile on my face. As my watch hit 26.3 miles, I was overcome with joy and the last 5 miles were the most beautiful I have ever run. Beauty sought, worked hard, and loved everyone I crossed on that run. The most important lesson I took from this is to remember to turn that love inward and be proud of the progress. đ
QOD: Seth, I was training for my first 50k. I was set on a 6-6 1/2 hr finishing time. 1 month before the race I started to have it band issues. I started off strong but had to back off on the pace. The best part is I enjoyed the last 15 miles just taking it all in. Finished at 7:22 and loved every minute
The positive attitude that you possess Seth is the KEY INGREDIENT TO COMPLETELY OVER COMING THIS DISAPPOINTMENT. THAT IS A VERY HEALTHY APPROACH.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. I CAN EASILY SEE YOU CLOCKING 2:21 in next yearâs TCS MARATHON BECAUSE OF YOUR ( SO WHAT WEâLL GET EM NEXT TIME) approach.
QofD just two weeks ago, I had to go from "age group compete" to "just complete" in the trail 25k. Legs weren't feeling great, so decided to use it as a training run. Good job, Seth!
QD: When I was a sophomore in high school in 1980, I won our regional 1600 qualifying me for our state track meet here in Tennessee. I had been running on what I thought were shinsplints in my right leg, and hardly ran in the days leading up to the state finals. On the evening of the state meet, the pain didn't subside during my warmup laps like it usually did, and in the first few hard strides to begin the race it felt as if my leg just suddenly gave way. I hobbled around for 4 laps, finishing the race in dead last (I couldn't even tell you the time lol). We went to the emergency room afterward, and sure enough I had been ignorantly running on a stress fracture which I had just stupidly turned into a full fledged fracture. I laid off of it, healed up, got reinjured during fall cross country (in my hip this time and now had enough sense to go see a doctor). Fortunately, I was able to come back that spring to earn a spot on what was to become our state championship 4 X 400 relay team. I guess the moral of this story is, there's always another day.
That's a great attitude to have Seth! Grieving is part of the process when we "miss the mark," or "fail." Whatever you want to call it. But as many of the Stoics say - We cannot always control the things that happen to us, but what we can control is our mind and how we react to these situations. In this instance, if you let yourself grieve for too long, it will control your mind, and take away from all the wonderful things that are going on around you. Thanks for all the work you put into this vlog. I have been watching for a few years now and it's amazing to see how you have evolved as a runner, family man, and content creator. Keep working hard!
Youâve inspired me to put my trainers back on at 57 and have my first half in March. Not convinced that oats and banana for breakfast the day before may be the reason for the problem ;) brilliant editing and commitment and that 2:20 is there. I reckon you are at the stage to get a pro coach - great sandwich btw !!))
QD: My big race this summer was the bridger ridge run in bozeman mt. I had a solid spring and summer of training, minus a few twisted ankles, and I believe that I could have won the race. However, 3 days before I got pretty sick, and was barely able to convince myself to start. The first 20 minutes I ran well, and then the sickness caught up. I made it through the halfway point (about 1 hour 40 minutes) still with the 4th and 5th place runners, and then promptly blew up. A section that I had done easily in 1 hour during training took 3 hours. I dealt with it well, because I went into the race knowing that this would 99% be the case. Especially with sickness or stomach things, there is simply nothing to do. It was a bummer, but I know that I'll be back for that race, just like you'll be back for another road marathon in the future
Seth Iâm as inspired by your amazing attitude surrounding this race and your struggles as I am from when you won Pikeâs Peak. Thank you for keeping it real and sharing your story with us. Onward and upward my friend.
It was on my first marathon, just this weekend, the Porto Marathon. I hit the wall on KM 34 and from then on it was only pain until KM 40, then I had my mind sorted out, I stopped at the last food station and went back on track to the finish line.
Was so happy even tho I missed my target by 18 minutes.
Definitely learned what to do next time to improve and to avoid hitting the wall.
Cheers from Portugal
Have you ever tried a marathon without the insane carb load, a lot of new research coming out saying you donât need it and high fat can potentially be effective and relive stomach issues
Even if you want to carb load, itâs sufficient to drink a 1 liter of fruit juice the days before the race. I have no idea what he used to carb load though.
QOD: I ran my first marathon this past spring in Providence, RI and had the wheels fall of the train from mile 22 to 25, walking the majority of the time. I focused on my future goal of the 50th NYC marathon, knew my first 26.2 was a learning experience, and took my lessons learned into this past weekend, improving my time by 33 minutes, and ran a sub 3:20:00 đđťđ Love all the content and the honesty / realness you bring, thanks Seth! See you in NYC soon đ
âFailure is a beautiful thing.â Your ability to control your attitude is Navy SEAL level
Hey Seth! Great vlogâŚI am a freshman collegiate runner and I have loved running in college. I just obtained my first injury about 2 and half weeks ago. About two days ago I got an x-ray which revealed a stress fracture on my fibula. Itâs so tough for me mentally to have my first injury be a stress fracture, but as you say EMBRACE. Itâs a learning experience and you saying that is inspiring so Thank You!
QD: Seth, I think this is one of the most important vlog's you've ever made. Racing is risky and we will all eventually have days that we fail or don't meet our goals. If you've read Meb's book you know that one of the greatest racers of all time failed often, but he kept coming back, again and again! Last year I didn't get enough fluids and nutrition in in the Ironman 70.3 Arizona and fell apart during the run. That failure has motivated me through all my training for the Ironman 70.3 Indian Wells coming up; plus I learned so much from that failed race I feel mentally stronger to attack this next one. DGR!
love your positivity, keep it up! I also didn't have the marathon time I wouldv'e hoped for, but made sure I finished strong. water under the bridge -- onto the next!
Seth, your attitude is what sets you apart from so many. Your ability to move past a major disappointment so quickly is truly admirable. I´m preparing for my marathon debut next month. While my first goal is to finish strong and have a good experience I know I´ll be disappointed if I don´t hit my goal time of sub 3:30. I believe I can run that time but even if I don´t, I´m going to do my best to move on quickly and enjoy what should be an amazing experience for me regardless of what time I eventually finish in.
QOD: London marathon this year. All going to plan until mile 21 when first signs of cramp kicked in. Had to run walk until mile 24 after which literally I couldnât run as the pain was too much. The last 2.2 miles were a walking struggle but I faced up to it and enjoyed the atmosphere. Disappointed yes but I had great banter with the crowds and no pressure by that point. I still finished and have the medal. One of THE best days ever.
If you think the atmosphere in NY is good youâve seen nothing until you come to London, must be on your bucket list surely.
QOD: As a runner with Crohn's very few races go as planned, but keeping going whatever the challenges you face is the win. I might never break the tape at the finishing line, but every race I manage to finish is a battle I won. Some years I have been to ill to even train out side let alone race. So I make the most of being able to run and race even if I missed my targets, because there is no guarantee there will be a next time.
QD: got absolutely wrecked at chicago this year. To me the lesson learned is sometimes thereâs no lessons learned⌠Sometimes you have a bad race and itâs out of your control; shouldnât let it stop you from going after it again.
Chicago was brutal this year.
stomach issues, I have been there more than once on training runs and races. You are in inspiration for how to face adversity. Changing your mindset is a hard thing to do mid race. Congrats on pushing through and seeing the beauty.
QD: For me it was this past Sunday in NYC. I was gearing up for a
You're an example to the rest of us, Seth! Love your dedication and bounce-back and looking forward to seeing you give NYC another shot (hopefully) next year.
Btw, re: the QOD,
⢠My first 1/2 in Cleveland in May of 2013, I clipped off a first mile that was 0:30/mi faster than anything I'd run in training. What I learned from the 10mi that followed was how *not* to pace a long-distance race, and how to drain the tank before reaching the finish line. Ultimately, I ended up blacking out from exhaustion/dehydration just past Mile 11 and had to be EMT'ed back to the finish line.
⢠At that point, I could've given up and said racing wasn't for me. But I used that summer to fine-tune my training ahead of my first marathon in Akron the following September, and I'm happy to say I finished that race with zero pacing/hydration issues.
I don't think it's always best to learn from experience, but this was a case where I'm glad I did!
The marathon is humbling, always feels like a bit of a dice roll. You can give yourself as good odds as possible, but sometimes it won't go your way.
It's hugely comforting to see how even someone at your level can run into these issues, and inspirational to see your response.
QoD: I had my own marathon spin out at London this year: sub-3 pace until mile 20 before my stomach left me walk/ shuffling the last few miles. It hurt, but perspective helps, finishing a marathon is still an achievement. And it's even more motivation to turn that doorknob for the next one.
QOD: Im still a new runner and older, so Im on the slower side. I ran my first Marathon in Nov 2020, The next one in Spring 2021 I got injured around half way and had to tap out at 16 miles. I was so disappointed in myself, no one I talked to could understand this. Now I finally did my 3rd Marathon and I finished and had a 1h PR time. I am super proud of myself, Im looking now towards NY 2022.
Hey Seth! I saw you around mile 21 in Harlem and screamed âSethhhhhhh!â Was good to see you!
QOD. Where do I begin? I have blown up in sooo many races!
I too have learned to let it go after crossing the finish line.
Thank you for how you answered Dennisâs question. And thank you Dennis for asking it!
I totally blew up on my fastest finish ever at Houston 2015. Hit the half mark in 1:34 and change. Finished at 3:48! The worst blood blister in the history of the marathon attacked my feet beginning at mile 16. By mile 22 i was absolutely in tears! I processed the pain of defeat in the final 4 miles and resolved to put it behind me on the 1 mile hobble back to the hotel.
Interesting stuff. And educational. Did my first marathon in October 2020. It was a disaster. It was great to see you handle your set backs in New York with such panache. Well done that man!
QOD: In 2018, I had a DNF in Ottawa, due to an injurie... It was more painful mentally than physically. The good side of it was I trained harder for the next race, came back strong couple months later and PR the day after my grandfather passed away! Seth keep the great work you are doing you are amazing and a great source of inspiration.
QOD: I've done 2 marathons. 2018, 2020. I blew up in both! How do I respond - plan to do another!!! Get smarter, plan and prepare better. Never give up! Keep turning that doorknob.
What a positive attitude! I have a similar personality, to a tee! I would probably feel bad for a couple miles then pull out of it and accept what has happened and enjoy the Marathon and fun of the event also! The elite status competition turned off but the enjoyment of the moment was the door that opened up! No more competition, you can relax now! We all need to stop amd smell the roses sometimes so to speak and enjoy the moments, instead of passing out at the end! Reminds me of mountain climbing, getting down from technical areas and being able to finally just relax and enjoy every moment! Great job Seth! Just give it your all thats all you can do!
it will be better Seth!
watching this video solidified my wish to run nyc marathon. i used to train for the 5k on the track, but in the past few months i got out of full taining mode into a casual runner. i run daily for 20-40mins. my mileage is currently under 30mi/week. versus running 100k each week in june.
im an 18yo guy from Croatia who has a huge wish to see nyc, but also to run my first marathon. i dont have the money to get to nyc, and i dont know how ill do it.
but i know i will.
i'll see you all in nyc next year!
Thanks Seth, really enjoyed that talk. It's good to hear your detailed and honest reflection. And appreciated your shout outs to the other runners you met, especially Jordan.
Such a great attitude! Love your perspective. Many years ago, I went into the Athens (yes, THE ATHENS) Marathon woefully undertrained and it went just about like you'd expect. But I was in Athens and it was hard to not be joyous just being there (seeking beauty), despite posting my slowest time ever for the distance. On the flip side, I recently ran a 5:00:18, narrowly missing my A goal of sub 5. It was a 22:59 min PR. You win AND you learn. Keep on keeping on. I concur with the food thing. Stay somewhere you can make your own, it makes all the difference for me and it took a bunch of races like the one you had to really bring it home.
QD: A month ago at the Chicago Marathon. Yes it was my first marathon but I trained well and felt ambitious enough to make the A Goal an under 5 hour finish. After mile 24, I was getting close to the 5 hour mark so I decided to walk that mile knowing under 5 was out of my control. I didnât grieve per se but reflected on everything that I have accomplished to that point. Finishing strong was the priority and I did! 5:28:16 is officially my marathon finish time. It was a learning experience that Iâll take to my next marathon. DGR đŞđ˝
Q.O.D. so while you struggled this Sunday, so did I @ the Fort Worth marathon. I lost my nutrition @ mile 8. I knew I was in trouble, but I pushed on. I slowed to by two mins @ mile 20. I made it to mile 24.5 before my body gave out. I was carried back and soon ended up in the hospital. I pushed myself past my limit and paid for it. With all that said, I have never been more excited for the future. Coming home and seeing that you also were human helped me get there. DGR strong đŞ
Something I noted Seth, Iâve noticed when you are at home you eat a large amount of fresh veggies, maybe 3 days of an uptick of carbs was more than your body could process. I think hotel living is never conducive to peak results.
yes, on the uptick of carbs!
veggies are carbs
QOD: Boston Marathon 2021. During this training block, I had some knee pain that haunted me, but had good rest over the prior month. On race day, I felt good for the first 16 miles before I turned a corner and headed up a small incline and I felt a sharp pain in my knee. I ended up jogging the last 10 miles, visiting the medical station to get taped and finished my slowest marathon in 3:26. A week later I was diagnosed with a fractured patella. I'll be down for a number of weeks, but excited to get going again. I'll probably coast through Boston next April and push for New York agent fall if I can get in.
Thanks for the inspiration SJD!!!
While training for my first half marathon I got runner's knee. I tried to stick to the training plan, but the dull pain slowly grew over the weeks. After just 5k in the race I could barely walk. I tried to finish, but just couldn't. It hurt physically and mentally. I was expecting the same anger and frustration I felt back then in your vlog, Seth. Your positivity shocked me, but for the better. I'm sure it's not just the way you frame it. There will always be another race. Onwards and upwards.
Thank you so much for this. I ran NYC for the 7th time. Best training cycle I ever had. Never been fitter. Never been faster. And I knew that I was supposed to run a relaxed pace and to make sure I had plenty of energy for the final 10K. So what do I do? Fly through Brooklyn, giving high fives to ever kid with his hand out. And then, right around mile 18, the body that had sailed through the course started to sputter. Pacing groups I was sure I would beat began passing me in the Bronx and the group pacing my BQ time caught me around mile 23. But, like you, Seth, I processed my disappointment rather quickly and enjoyed the hell out of those slow, painful miles. I don't consider this a blown opportunity at all. Because the people, both runners and spectators, were so wonderful, there was so much love in the streets of New York, that my gratitude for the experience vastly outweights my frustration at missing my goals. Not even close. So thanks. And congratulations on running another marathon. Hell of an achievement for even the best of runners.
You attitude is amazing Seth. Your positivity is desirable. I wish I more like you in that area.
QD: I've been chasing a BQ since 2019 and I've ran two marathons since then (nothing in 2020). On my first attempt, my body couldn't handle it and I had to stop to vomit a couple of time. I was also taking Maurteen gels. I don't take them anymore. My result was 3:15 and change. I need a sub 3:10. On my second attempt I finished in 3:10:26. This time no GI issues. I just wasn't fast enough. Still chasing that dream.
The very same thing happened to me at the Berlin marathon 2021. Was shooting for 3 hours. I started feeling weird after an aid station at the 15th km. I quickly understood that I wouldnt make it to the end before having some problems. It kept getting worse, I decided to ease the pace around km 25. Then it just got me, at km 28, I couldnt even walk without having shooting pains in my stomach. I ran, walked, paused... to the end. Finished in 3:17. Dont know what happened as I replicated my nutrition strategy which i'd practiced a lot in training. Seeing your video, I think I will start putting more consideration into nutrition in the meals leading up to the event !
I feel you on the kitchenetteâŚI just ran Javelina Jundred and spent a week in Arizona before the race living out of a hotel. I felt really heavy and just not in my normal routine going into the race. You live and learn! Thanks for all you do Seth!
I have to say having had similar experiences in races they can be incredibly hard to overcome after you have trained so hard and set such expectations for yourself. Hearing you so eloquently explain how you felt and processed it and then picked yourself back up again is truly inspirational. Absolutely love your work and wish you the very best for 2022 all the way from Australia!
Hey Seth! For me, I raced LA Marathon the same weekend as NY and it was my first marathon. Set 3 goals, sub 3:30, finish, and finish top 20% of my age group. Long story short, the only goal I hit was finishing. Mile 10, started with foot cramps, mile 16 groin cramps, mile 18⌠everything else lol. Similar like you, I grieved and then decided to still have fun and power through to finish. I finished in 4:01 which surprisingly was around my initial goal last year before the race got canceled. Definitely was an issue intaking electrolytes early in the race with 95% humidity (in LA who would have thought) and then also maybe starting out a little too fast due to being in the wrong corral and racing to get out of the crowds. The legs felt great initially and was really feeling like i was going to have a great run day but it didnât pan out that way. Lessons learned but by far much more motivated to chase down 3:30 soon!
DGR strong baby.
So inspring this last words!!!
I did Venice Marathon (Italy) a month ago. It was my first marathon, I trained 3:15:00 but finished in 3:18:34. I was really unhappy - but you are changing my mind! đ
Heartbreaking story. Your experience is one of my fears. I have a very sensitive stomach and I worry a lot that I might face GI issues in a marathon. But, your story is very motivational and helpful to tackle fears.
Well he did for some reason eat a lot of pasta ,something he never eat. Real rookie stuff
Running in New York is a gift. Does not matter if it you have to throw away all your goals along the way.
I felt that your attitude, after realizing that this wasn't going to be your race, was very inspirational. It reminded me that running is a lot more than PR's, etc. I vote for you to run Chicago 2022 - Variety is the spice of life - plus I'll be running it. lol
Great job Seth. And, congrats to Jordan for a PR !!!
QOD: my first marathon ended up being the biggest bomb ever. Was shooting for 3:30 and was on pace up until mile 16. It was mainly trails and I felt a mosquito biting my calf, reached down to swat it away and oh my sweet oats did my legs lock right up. Had to massage on the side of the trail and walk the next mile. Walk/ran the rest of it and got passed by so many people. I cried but quit never entered my mind. Started thinking about my little girl waiting at the finish line for daddy and I pushed through it. Do I have regrets and excuses for the performance, sure. But in the end it was on me for not hitting that goal, but I did finish !
Great perspective on anger and frustration, Seth. I always say we are not our emotions or our thoughts. We donât need to personify negativity because we experience negative emotions. We have the negative emotions, we acknowledge them, then we decide how to react to them and what our next actions will be, like seeking beauty!
Dear Seth, I have been following your vlog for a while now (I started watching just before Henry was born) and at the 20:29 mark where you say "Why do I say seek beauty?" it hit me that that is not just a slogan and you are showing us how to actually live it. Thank you so much for being such an incredible positive force in our lives. (hello from India)
QOD: London marathon 2013. My race started to fall apart at mile 14. What sticks in my mind the most was the utter shock and disbelief that it was all going wrong when my preparation couldnât of gone any better. I wish Iâd had youâre strength of mind to absorb and accept what was happening and try and enjoy the walk - jog to the finish but instead I was consumed by feelings of humiliation and embarrassment to the end and for weeks after. Now I look back at that day and my medal and treasure it as the greatest achievement in my amateur running career. Great work Seth youâre an inspiration đŹđ§
2018 London Marathon.
Marked as my '5th and final London'
I had trained well and despite a few niggles, I had been the strongest I'd ever been for London and I knew, I would be on for a PR.
2018 was the hottest London Marathon on record đĽđĽľ and we suffered. I've never seen so many runners struggle and so early on in the race.
Mile 11, it all went wrong for me. Muscles cramping, causing other minor injuries.
My heart sank, knowing my PR would not happen.
I walked and hobbled in pain, running occasionally, just trying to get to the next mile marker.
What kept me going ?
My family, who were waiting for me at mile 25, my friends who had sponsored me and the charity that I was running for.
I couldn't let them down.
No matter what, I would cross that finish line and get that medal put around my neck.
The crowds were phenomenal. The loudest I'd ever experienced.
I saw my family at mile 25, I was a wreck. Physically and emotionally.
I was almost there.
The boost I got was priceless.
I had shed tears earlier on, but I knew I'd finish.
On reflection, the fact that I , and thousands of others made it, was incredible, considering the brutal conditions we were running (and hobbling) in.
The satisfaction of crossing the line for my family and the charity, soon made all the pain diminish from my body and mind.
What ever your dreams and goals, you will always have those tough times.
You need to keep moving forward and conquer the challenge ahead.
I learned many valuable lessons from that day and have since gone on to do 2 x 50k Ultras and the iconic 100k Race to the Stones in England.
We, as family, now have new challenges ahead as we have just emigrated to Australia to start a new life đŚđş
Thank you Seth for your positive vibes and inspiration.
Yes, Brigid!!! Come back to NYC and bring the family! Second Avenue Deli awaits you for round 2. (And plenty of other places we can recommend that will sit nice and easy in your stomach pre-race.) QD: Six weeks ago I ran Berlin aiming for under 4 and it was way hotter than Iâd planned for and I ran 4:06. Just not my day. This weekend I ran NYC in a second under 4 attempt and finished in 3:52 - cut off 14 mins in six weeks! The magic of running - good days and bad, keeps you humble and hungry. Congrats on overcoming a tough day in the Concrete Jungle and see you back here soon!
I started out too fast at the Hatfield McCoy Marathon even though I knew better. Everything went great for the first 16 miles then I just hit the wall and ended up walking most of the last 10 miles. Somehow I just got swept up in the moment and decided I was going to try to hang with the front of the pack. I shot for a 3:30 and ended up with 4:17. I still enjoyed it though and feel pretty good about it. It's a very tough race with lots of humidity and hills. I did end up getting 3:25 last Sunday at the Marshall University Marathon. Oddly enough it and the NYCM were going on at the same time. I'm sorry you didn't reach your goal, but a 3hr marathon is still nothing to sneeze at. You just had an off day. There's no doubt in my mind you'll come back and hit your goal.
Thanks Seth for sharing your experience, I found this video very moving. You win some, you lose some but you might as well take any pleasure you can along the way. This will stay with me
I was a walk-on at Baylor and running up to 16 miles in work-outs. I had a couple of non team member runner friends that were going to run the San Antonio marathon during a holiday weekend. I was going to be in SA visiting a great aunt with the fam. I told the guys I would run with them. Of course in my mind, I was going to run with them the 1st half and leave them in the dust since I was a D-1 athlete. The week before the race, I had a bad case of diarrhea. A couple of days before the race, I was fine. At mile 6, I had to go to the restroom. There were no porto's nor bushes any where for the next 7 miles. Finally, there were porto's at halfway. At least 20 minutes was spent in there. Finally after cleaning-up, I rejoined the race with a lot of energy. I caught up with my friends, but decided that after all the encouragement they gave me during those 7 miles to keep going, it would be rude for me to pass them. We all finished together! My family and I went to Wyatt's cafeteria afterward, and ate enough for 3 people.
QOD - Ironman California didn't even get underway last month and as I stood there in River Cat Stadium soaked and being pelted by the rain and wind all I could think about was how I didn't get to finish that event I had been prepping for the last 1.5 years. After getting home, drying off, and taking a few hours acknowledging the sense of loss I just went ahead and planned out my 2022 season. It's going to be Epic!
QOD: Ran the incredible London Marathon 2021, had a good but incomplete training block with an injury to my knee giving me a 6 week lay off about 3 months from race day. Shooting for sub 3hrs, all good pace wise until mile 19 when my stomach went, your experience in New York was very reminiscent of my own. There were tears and frustration for 2 miles and I then accepted what had happened and spent the next 4 miles thanking the incredible supporters on the streets of London.
My first full marathon, just over a month ago. It was my 1st and I knew that just finishing would be an accomplishment. BUT... let's be real, I had goals! I did not hit them. The race humbled me for sure - and like you, I believe I ate too much (and some of the wrong things) in the days beforehand. I had to stop twice, and it floored me. The last 5-7 miles were very humbling as well. It took me MUCH longer than you to get through the grieving process - once again, you're such an inspiration! I will remember in the future: "I grieved... for 2 miles." THANK YOU for all that you share with us Seth, and thank you for being such an amazing person!!
QOD: At my first Sprint triathlon (750m swim, 20km bike, 5km run), pulled my groin after 200m into my swim, could only rely on my arms in the water. Came out the water 2nd to last, took it as a huge boost, that I wasnât dead last.
T1: Struggled massively geting my wetsuit off. Could hardly get on the bike.
Bike: But once on the bike, I was flying, passed over 300 people, in a new 20k PR bike record.
T2: Could hardly get my shoes on due to the pain, hobbled/ran the 2nd quickest 5k of my life, passing another 15 people.
Well chuffed with my overall performance, for keeping my head down & finishing. The groin is OK now, took about 2 months to heal properly.
QOD: Ran my first marathon in 9 years a month ago. Everything felt good until a couple of days before the race when I got a huge task at work. Worked my butt off for two days, with high stress and my stomach was not happy after that. So on race day I felt no joy for the race, my stomach was bothering me from the second I woke up but I did give it a good try despite that. Long story short, I hit the wall at the 28k mark, felt sick and couldn't fuel myself properly. DNF:ed and that felt terrible after the work I've put in but my feeling was that I had already PR'd at work, there was nothing left in the tank. BUT I was registered for a second marathon, this past weekend, which I didn't intend to run as it was a backup race if I didn't attempt the first one. Decided to give it a go, felt the joy again and managed to PR! So now it feels much better to enter into the winter training đ
Thank you, Dennis! For eliciting such a great response (19:10) from Seth.
Seth, there is only a certain amount of carbs the body can handle over a period of time. It varies from person to person. But it's roughly about 60 grams per hour. You might have over done it before the race, maxing out your ability to digest more in during the race. Just a thought.
You are an inspiration. Those first 10 miles were đĽ! Onward and upward â¤ď¸
Can't wait for NYC2022 Seth! Old man strength only going to get stronger. Amazing energy! Loved every video, going to turn that door knob
QOD: I just had a race 2 weeks ago, my first half marathon and my training block was too intense and my knees couldn't keep up and had to stop running half way through the race, now i'm resting and preparing for my next race, trying to seek beauty, and maybe at some point we will meet on NYC for the marathon! Keep up with the work and amazing content !!
QD: Similar situation just happened to me in October. My last race of the season, trail half marathon in VT. Did the same morning breakfast routine as always but for some reason my stomach was really acting up throughout the entire race. Super upset, thought I might boot it a couple times. But stuck with it. My goal was to finish under 2hrs, and I finished in 2:00:51.
The beauty in life is that you "live and learn." Failure as one might put it, isn't failure at all, it is simply an opportunity to humbly reassess and evolve with the next goal in mind. Let's go 2022!! Love this Vlog!
Well done Seth! No one ever succeeds without set backs! you embraced failure like the true champion you are. For me running is about being in the moment. Loving every step letting go of negatives and breathing in positivity. There are millions of people that can not run so I feel lucky just being able to! Well done on a truly great video!
Ran a half marathon in October 2019 where my stomach gave out only 5k in (didnât play it safe on eating the day before/morning of). It was also REALLY hot that day which I was blindsided by. I accepted the L on my time by 10k or so and trudged to the finish from there.
Iâm running my very first half marathon in 2022 to see if I can do it before I sign up for my first full marathon. Was inspired by watching your videos at the start of the pandemic! If anything itâs really good for me to see how things can go wrong, especially stomach issues. Iâll just have to be super careful! Iâm still cheering you on - 3 hours sounds incredible to me! đ
QOD: I just ran my first marathon on the 7th, the LA Marathon. I have been training for sub-5 (just started running in May), but I developed terrible giant blisters on my metatarsals of both feet during the race and had to slow-walk miles 19 through 26 and finished over 6 hours. BUT I FINISHED! It was especially heartbreaking for a period of that walk, but as soon as I crossed the finish line, it all went away. The looks on the faces of my family and friends that were there to support me were nothing but joy and positivity, so how could I be upset? Great experience and I can't wait to give it another shot in the future!
Dropped out in my first 100 mile race at 25 miles due to injury - went out with friends for beers and food. Liked your reply to Dennis.