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The question isn't whether this is a good deal. The question is whether this is the right boat for you.
Exactly right
I agree. I'm not seeing the passion in your eyes Mark. I'm the same way with motorcycles. I've gotten rid of, or passed on, very sensible motorcycles because they just didn't excite me.
agreed!
A great boat for a family cruising in northern type waters but too enclosed for warmer climes and perhaps a lack of privacy for non family crew. James Wharram designs were meant for an ‘outdoor communal’ existence and I suspect that is what is in Mark’s mind
Keep on keeping on - it is out there somewhere
@@Kathikas1 Excellent points.
Bilge keels are worth their weight in lobsters. Just pull up on any beach at low tide, and you're stable. It's like having a boat and a portable beach cabin, all in one. I like it. Andy is a top shelf guy. Hat's off to him.
Indeed a beachable craft opens very cool options... kinda like a Wharram
You can add legs to any boat and fit them when needed thereby avoiding the disadvantages of bilge keels. You're going to ask what disadvantages aren't you.
@@jonathansimmonds5784 You have more wetted surface vs short chord fin keels and point to wind a little worse. Any boat doesn't get roll dampening with legs fitted though, twin keels do more than just sit on the ground and have shallower drafts.
@@2ndPrize & if you run aground you cant pull the boat over to get off < Trust me i Know , The windward sailing is like a lagoon - sideways .
@@jonathansimmonds5784 Melody iirc had the 'bilge' keels retrofitted, dont forget it has a steel lifting centreplate ;-) low aspect ratio rudder though...
Andy is a very good man! That's a very generous offer to you! Had no idea he would be so kind! If nothing else you have become friends! Awesome
A motor-sailor?
@@alexandermenzies9954 You're full of negativity in all of your comments. Sad.
@@alexandermenzies9954 its a sailboat with motor just like Mark previous boat
@@leonply Comments discussion is not for you, Leon. Personal denigration might be your way if you can't discuss different points of view but it's a very poor way of conducting yourself.
@@vampirwrr I think Alex is correct. Yes, sailboats have small aux. diesels. This has a big 4 cylinder diesel and a pilothouse which does put it in the motorsailer food group. Nothing negative about it, just calling a spade a spade, really.
It is a fantastic boat for someone who wants to explore the North Atlantic and maybe even the NW passage, but..... it's not the right tool for tropical island hopping, IMHO.
Therefore, I suspect Mark will pass.
No worries though, I am sure there's a wanna be viking out there watching this video now who will grab it up.
Andy has done a wonderful job laying the foundation. Can't wait to see it finished.
That's a forever home ! Man what an opportunity! Even if you didn't accept the offer what a good bloke👍
That's a grand deal you've got there, especially with the offer of expertise and help from Andy. Sounds like a very solid option!
don`t do it.
Why?
Mark is not far from home, it's a good price, Andy to help out with how things go back in situation, that is worth 🤑, if I was Mark I would be a happy owner.🤗
@@ianbardon8581 If you were Mark you would be in the market for a blue-water cruising yacht, not a slow and comparatively thirsty motor-sailor.
Agreed it looks safe and solid option ! 😉
Andy is so honest and knowledgeable and he impresses me because of his down-to-earth - honesty. I would buy a boat from him. It and he is making a generous offer.
Would you buy a boat that was not suited for your purpose?
"..he [Andy] is making a generous offer" for a different kind of boat, a motor sailor!
Why would you "buy a boat from him" if it's the wrong type of boat?
Andy's character is not under debate and it's not up for sale so why push Mark to buy a different kind of boat?
@@alexandermenzies9954 its motorboat but its also sailboat its up to Mark if he want it, big pus is its metal not fiberglas so its much stronger and repairable
@@vampirwrr Mark has made clear the type of boat he wants and he has not said he wants a boat with primarily diesel engine propulsion.
@@alexandermenzies9954 then why the heck is he even perusing it???
Its a great boat with enough that needs to be done to keep you busy and give you plenty of content for years to come all while you sail around. I mean come on you can pilot the boat while boiling water for some tea and never have to move. This boat is just about perfect for you at this point in your journey. For the price you can not beat it.
"while you sail around" - in your dreams, this is a motor-sailor. You know, it uses relatively more diesel, sailing is not its strength.
Yes, for a "price you can not beat" .. and for a boat you don't want. How good is that!😢
This boat would be painfully slow under sail alone and it will never stop rusting no matter how much Jotun primer you apply.
That is the sad truth
Once you have dealt with the rust and painted it should not rust.But that can be a big job!!!!!
@@mattyg499 Rust never stops.
Do you want to sail or do you want to work in the yard? And always remember, there is nothing more expensive in time and money than a bargain boat.
Keep looking.
No.. you shouldn't... it's simply... not you. That's not taking away from Andy, who seems a top man and clearly knows his stuff inside out.
THIS IS the best deal you have come across since you started looking! Personally, I'd buy this one.
Great deal for you. Andy and Mellissa has done a fantastic job on her.
Has Mark said he wants a slow, expensive (fuel) motor sailor? Not that I've heard. So why is that a "great deal" ?
Personally, I prefer the Freedom 35 Cat Ketch from last week.
no comfortable head room
Hi Mark, although a generous offer old steel boats need more work de rusting and painting. Swing keels = extra complexity and possible noise issue. I see her more as a motor sailor, but a safe heavy weather boat. Long distance sailors are always stressed in light wind when their boat fails to make headway. Just my thoughts. Good hunting!
It’s a stitch up on a boat that will sink, 5k scrap for motor and ballast
Keep looking.
Mark, it's not just a boat, this will be your life, your house, and your car, you have to love her!! iI's easy to buy any boat, it's easy to say yes, this is a great deal, and this will do. It's harder to wait for what you want. It's harder to say no to an awesome offer. Even a free boat that's not what you are wanting, is still not the right boat. Follow your heart. Good luck
Very well said, Amanda.
The bleeding hearts should be ashamed of themselves.
Hi, I've owned 2 steel boats, a 30' and a 54' and I would happily own another. Steel is foregiving, easy to repair and immensely strong. Maintaining a steel boat is no more arduous than a wooden vessel. It's all about getting the fundamentals right and eliminating things which make inspection and maintenance harder i.e. no external wood work, use stainless on all wearing edges and surfaces, Don't drill holes through the deck, make sure all internal and external parts of the hull are accessible easily; hulls rust from the inside out so no water or condensation traps. Use epoxy paint systems on freshly grit blasted steel. Keep on top of repairing any damage to coatings.Use the right amount of zinc anodes, not too many mind. Laid up, use a dehumidifier to keep the inside dry. Be sure to have your electrics in good order to avoid electrolisis. Instead of loads of seacocks and through hulls use a sea-chest of large diameter with an above waterline opening cover for inspection and cleaning. Its all common sense really and satisfying to have a solid and well maintained vessel under you and hell of a comfort crashing to windward on a cold dark night, knowing about all the stuff floating about in our oceans....
Bernard Moitessier knew his onions and would approve of your words of steel!
But sometimes you need to drill in the deck for example an exhaust pipe for the heat system, just use good kit
How do you check if your electrics is in good order? I have a boat too since two years
Taking a good welding Class at a local College and having a good welding machine on board will solve all your maintenance problems and even let you earn a little on the side.
You can take this boat anywhere. No restrictions there. Stable in heavy seas. Can be run aground for maintenance. Good size for you + 1.
After a year or two you find it’s not for you then you can sell it.
It’s a great deal. Don’t pass up the opportunity. There’s no such thing as the perfect boat
Mark,take up Andy's offer he's a very generous and genuine person ,at least with Melody you can still put you into her, plus they have not scrimped on the work plus she is a stell hull.
I once had the chance of buying a BSA 4 wheel sports car all restored by the owner similar to Andy, I passed on it for the sake of £500, big mistake, BUY IT 🤗
Any boat owned by someone else is the perfect boat.
What you see is what you get, Andy is a very genuine guy and once he gets talking about boats he exudes enthusiasm. Did he stop to take a breath, lol. Difficult decision but you are the one buying and better to take your time and find the one you feel the passion for. Best of luck matey. Andy UK
Dear Mark,
As a loyal follower for Melissa’s and Andy’s CZcams channel as well as yours I can ensure you that Melody is a well restored boat what’s not completely ready but what still has to be done has hardly anything to do with all the difficult weddings they had to realize. what still have to be done can easily done by yourself and possibly your father will be willing to help you. Next to that Andy will help you of course the best he can. This is a boat what can bring you safe through heavy storms and is for you, Yoshi and future company spacious enough. So I think Andy offered you a great deal.
I can't recall Mark wanting a motor-sailor. With the price of diesel going through the roof I would think the first cost would be the least of his worries.
There seems to be some emotional pressure being applied by self-appointed salesmen.
@@alexandermenzies9954 Well Alexander. Melissa’s and Andy’s boat Melody is indeed a motor sailor but on the oceans it can sail everywhere without using any fuel unless there is no wind at all but in that case every sailing boat has a problem. The engine is made to maneuver the heavy boat easily in harbors and to assist with complete windlessness. I think the costs for fuel will be reasonable taking this into consideration
@@dickdegraaff5452 The cost of fuel has become very unreasonable. Motors are something that are used in mid-ocean very often to make up for a lack of favourable winds (not just complete windlessness ) and the slow performance of a motor-sailor sees the motor being relied on more frequently. Avoidance sailing (outpacing approaching heavy weather) is far more likely in a faster yacht.
@@alexandermenzies9954 I agree with everything you are saying, but Melody does have one advantage regarding “avoidance sailing”.
While a newer, faster, lighter vessel will use less diesel getting away from trouble, Melody has the ability to say screw running from the storm. Just heave to and weather it, knowing that she’ll take whatever the storm will dish out.
@@petec9686 I've sailed across 3 oceans and I'll take a vintage, mid-century or 21stC blue-water cruiser any day compared with a sluggish motor-sailor heaved-to and with your highly optimistic hope that "she'll take whatever the storm will dish out". I don't know where you get that "knowing" from but it will be news to many afloat.
We built a steel centre-boarder (32' Wylo design) and sailed her from New Zealand to Washington DC via Australia, South Africa and Brazil. Two main considerations for us were the strength (surviving hitting a floating container being a major safety consideration) and easy repairability of steel, especially for a shoal draft boat which can lead you into all sorts of interesting places. Our boat also had a non-ballasted swinging centreboard which we used for close reaching or going to windward. The centreboard made a huge difference to windward ability giving us all the benefits of a deep draft when needed and the wonderful bonus of shallow draft for exploring waterways. Our below waterline gasket was made from a tractor inner tube and never leaked a drop. Lastly, the ability to beach the boat (she had a wide keel and demountable legs) and clean/touch up below waterline paint was a huge convenience and saved us thousands in haul out fees. Melody has many advantages over other boats I've seen you viewing and is a very good prospect for a long voyage. A suggestion: make a list of desirable qualities for an ocean going yacht then only buy the boat that fits most or all of them. Good luck!
Good for you Mark ! Dont be in a rush or settle for something just to get back in the water. The right boat will come along in time ,you ll know ( in your heart ) what's right for you. Dont let money be the factor in what you pick no matter how sweet the deal seems at the time.
After all the love and hard work that they’ve put into the boat, if it’s the right boat for you, and you’re willing to carry on the project, I don’t think you can go wrong with this one. 👍🏻
I love the layout and design of that boat. That's pretty much exactly what I'd be looking for, with a long term view.
Three points. From the book Get Real Get Gone, dont mess with swing keels or in mast furling. Expensive to repair, failure prone at the worst moments. Also I recall Mark once saying he dislike the bilge keel sailing feel so I doubt he's gonna go for this one.
Exactly, the keel would definitely be an issue for me. In mast furling would depend on the system. To be honest he needs to get out sailing, get experience of some heavy weather and long passages. Plenty of successful channels crossing oceans in small boats.
No matter what boat you’ll choose, you are absolutely right about your feeling. But don’t forget, you’re young and the future can bring you many more boats😜
Keep taking each day at a time Mark only you knows what feels right good luck
Buy it, all the hard works done, you'll learn alot finishing the boat and your back sailing again. Your dream boat may still turn up in the future if so you'll have a good boat to sell and put towards it.
If your objective is to go sailing on a boat that can get into shallow areas and take others with you and cruise the world at your leisure, well, she’s a great deal. Like many others, I’ve watched Melody and they have been so good with their detail and care for getting the boat ready. You’d be halfway to the med by Easter!!
Keep taking your time. Patience is key, You got this Mark
Great boat from an even greater man. Very generous Andy and perfect boat for you Mark. Don’t think you can go wrong with Melody and I’m sure she’ll take care of you on your upcoming adventures
Mark is looking for a blue-water sailing yacht, not a motor-sailor. There is a very big difference, let alone claiming it's "the perfect boat"!
It’s a piece of junk, will sail like a brick, and that tractor motor will literally guzzle fuel, plus Andy is a conman, beware
You need to keep looking.. don't let cost sway your decision on buying a work on it forever boat.
Exactly! I had a steel boat back in the day - absolute nightmare to keep on top of rust.
Don't buy it. This boat still needs so much work that you will never get it out on the water. I have learned from experience that taking on someone else's failed project will most always be a regretful situation!
Sounds great to me bud, He also seems very genuine and knowledgeable about his build. Plus his offer of help out is such a bonus.
Could be a great starter to another and another boat build.
Thanks for the vlog. 👍
great to see and hear you making headway, mark -your on a great path!
One thing that I feel you can be confident about is knowing what you’re getting with this family. They know exactly what has been done & what needs to be done and they were going to make this their home. Plus if you can refit it there, you’ll already have someone to bounce your own ideas off that has lots of knowledge. Then there’s the best thing of all……YOSHEE gets to stay!! Don’t forget you’re his “Daddy & Best Mate”……(Did that work? LoL! Love that little boy.) Really, there’s something about this that feels like it was meant to be….You can go anywhere in this boat!
Yes that's major plus in my book, he will probably buy a pile of work that will drag on and on.
I don't know why your hesitating. This is a no brainer You must buy it upgrade it and sell it on when something else comes along. . Its a no brainer and now your finding excuses to get out of it. Buy the boat and start sailing! I don't believe it,not only are you getting the boat for £15,000 but free help, advice and support. The free labour has got to be £3,000- £5,5000 they are going to complete the projects they had planned to do to help you out even more. I still think you should go back 5000 miles to get the boat you fell in love with but this is a genuine gift along with all the support you could ever want for. Sailing Melody is one of my favourite channels and they have given you a wonderful opportunity to get sailing earlier plus it gives the opportunity to get afloat and visit more options and if you find one that you like you would definitely make a rather nice profit. You could even use it as accommodation which would so cost effective. This would be great for your CZcams channel plus a location for filming.
You would almost immediately have a sailboat you know and trust. Accommodation and most importantly freinds near by to help and support you. How can this not be the perfect opportunity. You will have everything you need and more plus time to save for the future. Please don't hesitate any more. To turn this offer down would be one of the worst decisions you will have made. There are no downsides to the decision to buy. If you don't buy this I hope its because you want to go back to the boat
5000 miles away. Stay safe J.
He ain't sailing anywhere.... this kid just likes making for sale videos
It's nice offer and lovely looking boat and size, hate rust tho. freedom 35 had no real head room for you
Follow your feelings Mark. Do not rush yourself.
Walk Away...just like Andy is
Buy a boat like the one Andy's just bought,
A blue ocean South Pacific sailing yacht.
🌊⛵⛱️🍻😎🙏 Patience will Prevail
A very good comment saying it as it is.
@@MrSychnant thank you, I don't want to sound harsh. Only advise Mark. I'm old and have made many costly mistakes.
Please buy the Freedom 35. It’s the best boat for you 👍👍👍
Totally agree with the general consensus here. The steel boat, perfect for northern climes, but not a world cruiser and will no doubt turn into an oven in the sun. The Wharram, I just have this mental image of Tom Hanks on the raft in Castaway!
In my most humble opinion the Freedom ticks the boxes. It's not so much of a project, so won't keep you stuck on the hard with a never ending list of jobs before you can cast the lines. The double wishbone rig looks super easy to singlehand and trade wind sailing. Lack of standing rigging cuts the ongoing maintenance/cost. It's quirky enough to maintain your cred. Above all it'll take you no time to get back out there.
Plus you don't have to worry about lightning strikes with unstayed carbon masts !!
Wowww, that's a good deal. Especially that you're able to get help finishing it off.
This would be an awesome deal to see go through... Would also be great to be able to continue to follow its progress and its adventures..
From a older guy that's made mistakes in decisions when I was young and learned from it, I can tell you don't hold out to much for one style of boat you like because you will sell yourself short on a dream and make mistakes early. I would recommend getting something in your budget ready to go that you can fix up and make your own for now and build your channel more and gain more experience and knowledge and then if few years down road take a more controlled risk towards your dream boat that way your more prepared financially and knowledgeable about what your after. Sometimes when where young we want that one thing now do bad that can make a bad decision and cost your self financially and mentally when if you take your time and gain more experience and prepare more financially you will be more ready to take on that dream of yours. This solely my opinion and not saying to listen to me but just offering a little advice from someone who's made mistakes early in life but was lucky to come out on other side ok by learning from mistakes.
Well said mate! I totally agree with you! When i went on my trip i had 3 requirements.
1. the boat must withstand more than me!
2. No bigger than I can handle everything by myself!
3. Lowest possible cost!
My experience after 6 years of sailing was that far too many people put too much of their budget into the boat. They stayed in the boat at anchor with their beer, while I traveled around and experienced the countries I visited.
For me, the boat was the ticket to freedom to travel where I wanted, not an asset to show off and brag about, in the ports I came to. There were enough of them!
I've been telling him the same from the day he began looking at catamarans. However, you have to make mistakes to learn from them so in many respects we should all just keep schtum....
@@jonathansimmonds5784 I agree and he needs to get a ready to sail 33 to 36' solid monohull and get out sailing in heavy weather in the Irish Sea. Definitely needs some tough conditions under his belt.
The patches on the hull bottom, for this age boat, would make me run away very fast.(and I Love steel boats)
Half surprised after all their work they are walking away. I have followed their progress on CZcams.
Lol relax mark! We are loving the videos, and nobody wants you to rush into anything you aren’t comfortable with. Keep them coming.
Great work
What a fantastically articulate gentleman who is both professional and concise. Lovely stuff!
He really is a bit of a dude isn’t he 👍
I think the work that has been done and the amount of boat that is being offered here is amazing. My biggest question, though, is how much more time and money does it need to be ready for what you would want to do with it. Steel boat work imo is nothing to be afraid of. If you like the boat, I think you would be very safe and have a good investment on your hands.
No brainer with that deal and standard of work… Enough left for you to do to get to know her and THE SPACE … long term much more comfort. Many will follow you to see her sail.
Thanks! Mark you’re a good man! I’ve watched every one of your videos, and I really enjoy what you are doing! Keep up the good work my friend! I totally understand the hesitation to spend money, but it’s always right when its your passion! This is a beautiful boat by the way! I’d love her!
No Brainer! As Andy is willing to give you a great deal and maybe give you a hand to finish off all those bits he's already got available, this boat will take you around the world. Not the fastest, but safely and with whoever you wish to join you. As the owner of a steel 35ft sailboat, I've followed Andy, Melissa and Jack to turn this vessel around and this is a good one! and at £15k it's a steal. (excuse the pun) do it!!!
Hahahaha, that bucket of shit would have to motor around the world, will sail like a brick, the welding repairs to the bow are laughable, it’s a death trap
@@nocontent4097 I'm humbled by your vast intelligence and expertise as a shipwright, and in marine welding, it's truly inspiring how someone can be so confident in their ignorance. You may want to look into the Dunning Kruger effect. 😉
Sail around the world? Hahahaha, motor sailing with a 120hp engine, combined with shoddy repairs?
Sorry to disappoint, but yes I am a boat builder, my business partner is also an engineer, we aren’t hard stand heroes, full workshop, fully equipped.
Delivery skipper, with contract salvage crew.
But better than all that, I’m 55 with a full head of hair champ. Sorry, it must be tough, goose
Has anyone ever seen that hunk of rust in the water and actually sailing? Rhetorical question
This looks like a GREAT deal for a worldwide cruiser with a great support system
Great boat being offered had a great price by a great guy. Bilge keels allow for easy cleaning among other advantages. This family put their hearts and souls into this boat. She's roomy and comfortable but still manageable shorthanded. Seems like an excellent option. Right in your backyard.
Yeah thats why he got another boat....this rust bucket was a death trap on the open seas.
This couple are FAKE.....and couldnt speak straight if you paid them.....
I am sure you will get plenty advice,here’s my two pence worth,I really do think this is the boat for you,back to your spiritual home,it’s written in the stars,I have no doubt Andy will want to see it through to the end and you will get a nice hand over,good luck whatever you decide.
Mark, this is a great deal at 15k, especially since you’ll have the guidance and help with putting her back together! I’d say hop on it! It’s a true world cruiser, big fan of steel boats. Cheers
It's hardly a "great deal" if you want a blue-water cruising yacht. There is a very big difference.
I hope Mark is not pressured to buy something he doesn't want.
@@alexandermenzies9954 he's a big boy and hopefully can think for himself
@@oregon1232 I'm sure that is the case, Oregon. However, the chorus of (likely know- nothings) those trying to solve someone else's situation by lumping Mark with an old swing keel motor-sailor is shameful.
I haven't watched all of sailing Melody's video's, BUT.... they've done a LOT of the work already. It's a solid boat. It doesn't need much more to be sailing. It's right there in the UK. It's a sure bet. GO FOR IT!
AND..... They have a whole series of videos right there on CZcams you could watch to learn everything about that boat.
This is not a project you would be going into blind
@@cwjarvis3 I'm sure Mark does not need to be instructed about the characteristics of swing keel motor-sailors.
Wisely, Mark is looking for a blue-water cruising yacht. No matter how nice its present owners, or how recently it's been fixed, this boat is still only a motor-sailor.
monohulls heel over and bounce around at anchorages. they need a lot of wind to sail, they do point tight into the wind and carry heavy provisions well. steel boats are great in cold icy water, and freshwater lakes and need a lot of maintenance in saltwater,
It’s really the perfect size boat for a live aboard. Plenty of room for you and your guests. Also, head room ! Which you wil appreciate when you have to be on the boat in a marina during a week of bad weather
Nice take you anywhere with absolute confidence boat, maybe only at 3kts though ! TBH id feel much more confident on that than any other non steel hull boat. Lots of work to do, take your time and pick the right one Mark, keep going the vlogs are great.
Yes !
It meets your needs and importantly, he knows what needs doing inside and out.
"It meets your needs"; really?
I can remember watching this boat been restored, she looking really good
Being steel, the bottom configuration (chined) may make her roll more in a beam or quartering sea or swell. I gather Andy is willing to step the mast and launch Melody as with this topic, adding another cost. Possibly, after Melody is launched you could take her out on sea trials giving you more knowledge of her capabilities? It's a tough position so take your time with knowledge of further sailing adventures. Good luck!
There is another steel chine yacht recently re-launched on YT and it's very apparent it is a "wet boat" on any tack. The rail is under even with light winds.
No wonder they're headed for the tropics..
😀
Great episode ! Melody is by far the best option for many reasons. Solid vessel. Best wishes !
Let's know what are the "solid reasons"!
Then line them up for what Mark wants.
It sure seems like a great deal. But you need to do what makes you happy. Love your channel ☺️👍
What a tank! This beast looks stout and reliable and offers you a great base along with plenty of opportunities to do the kind of work and updating you want to do. Dangar has plenty of videos if you need a tutorial on steel boat restoration. Good luck 👍🏻
A tank! 3mm thick hull? Wow, you have no clue do you, just tune in weekly with a cuppa and gobble up all the bullshit, now you believe it and think you actually know something?🤣 god bless CZcams
Mark wishing you well with whatever decision you make, as a boat owner for over 40 years I much prefer the Freedom 35 for an infinite number of reasons, you can spend 10k on this boat in the blink of an eye and at that point it will still be only half the boat the Freedom 35 is, to grow your CZcams channel you are far better sailing to interesting destinations and doing on going repairs simultaneously, you will go completely mad spending 6 to 12 months on the hard and frankly it may never leave the hard and possibly unsalable, the Freedom 35 will always be attractive to a wide range of buyers, which will allow you to transition to your next boat in 2-4 years, sailors with glass boats are generally terrified of steel boats being moored nearby, the decks on a steel boat become unmanageable when they heat up, everyone on board will require shoes at all times and for Yoshi a disaster in closing with wise improvements to the Freedom 35 or another like boat may give you a small capital gain when you resell, the most important issue however it will always be saleable. I am always in your court whatever you decide, please accept these thoughts in the spirit they are given. Best Wishes to you and your wonderful family.
Exactly my sentiments entirely.
I can’t believe you didn’t buy the last boat Melody is junk compared to the last one .. they did such a hack job on her
That's a very nice looking boat Mark I hope whatever you want works out for you
Buy it... Part of the job its done. No regreets...
Greetings from mexico
It's missing most of the need electronics, but it doesn't need much work to get her up and running. Sounds like a great deal for you and Yoshi.
£15,000 !!!!! Wow! Incredible price considering the time, effort and type of work that’s been carried out. Very nice offer!
You must be dreaming..
Fantastic and it is a great steal boat I think watching you to help make build the boat that is so interesting. Could be a great show.
Mark, this is a no brainer. The hardwork has been done and you know the history of the boat, no hidden surprises. Old Sea dog from other channel, travels the world on his steel boat.
Hi Mark
You have come a long way since your humble beginnings and like anyone else the experience you gain from your adventures shapes your future decisions. Honestly I was not a big fan of the catamaran choice but there is something about them that you like. If it's content for your channel then scouting for a new boat is fine. Personally I feel you need to make a decision on multi hull or monohull. Only then can you look at your choices objectively. The other thing to consider is size versus manageability. If you intend to be single handed I would keep to 35ft. Possibly 40ft but the design would have to be right. You can ask for as much guidance as you like but ultimately only you can decide. I look forward to seeing what you choose
Steel hulls have pluses, but it's going to be relatively slow and you'll have to get used to grinding and painting on a regular basis.
Looks good nice boat. A big plus on this boat is great light for ur CZcams videos. I’m guessing it’s a slow ride but perfect sailing in my world is 5-6 knots (if you have the time). This is not just ur boat but ur house, and it looks comfortable.
This is an interesting boat and a good offer for the right person (even at the completed 25k price post refit and in the water), but... First, I think this is a more of a motor-sailer, 36 foot with an 80hp diesel with massive fuel tanks sounds a bit suspect. You'd probably want to look at the rig and the sail numbers to see if this boat can handle its weight under sail. Also, if you are planning on staying in cold weather this type of design is fantastic (think about how much attention was given to the heating system on this boat, protected interior helm, etc.), but, I think you'd cook in the tropics (the pilot house looks like a pressure cooker and there are very few opening hatches, etc.).
If you were planning on sailing up near the Arctic, that'd be one thing, but, if you are heading out the channel and turning left, it is entirely another. I think you'd be happier with the sailing ability of the Freedom 35 out of the two so far, which is designed more for multi-latitude sailing, and would handle a trade wind circumnavigation with ease. Excited to see what other options you are considering! Fair Winds!
Agree!
Good point. It looks more motor sailer now you mention it & that dog house will be susceptible to windage.
Another vote from me in support of this view of the steel boat. It looks like a powerboat that will have a sailing rig on top. You will burn a lot of diesel going anywhere, but you will be warm and comfortable on the way. I can't imagine it going upwind at all without the engine, the shape of the hull and all those underwater appendages suggests that it doesn't sail like an International 14.
Good price, strong hull! I hate rust, and sailing yachts with hydraulic steering is a turn off for me!
Think we're in for a long, long search, boys and girls!
I think it's great that you are not rushing in. I hope no viewers are pressuring you. Remember to factor in the cost of the bowsprit for marina berths. Keep looking at interesting boats. You will find one. Yoshi looked good and happy. All the best!
Happy to see the Saab features! Good sailing!
This boat is the best, because most of the work is done, it is a solid boat, you can beach it, it is easy to repair, and you get an additional audience baked in just by going for it.
Also that pilot house man, I have a hard dodger on my sailboat, and I want the back closed in so bad to make it a full pilot house, it is truly a great setup.
Verry nice boat, but i bet its more like 3 month before its in the water but looks to be pretty far down the rebuild. Its a special boath though, the problem here is you got to love and appreciate the tank-like nature of the boat otherwise you will not be happy with it.
I like this advice. It's a great boat and a great price AND you need to realize what its character is. If that wooden boat seemed nice...this is also nice...but leaning into the "tank" approach.
guaranteed a few more months. Andy said Easter which = April
Such a good deal!! Love both your channels
Good deal all the hard work is already done they have put so much labour into it
Seriously Mark, this boat has solid bones. I think you would do good buying this boat.
I think that this is the boat for you Mark. You already know the pedigree and she looks pretty bulletproof to me.
What is her pedigree, Shane?
@@alexandermenzies9954 Hi Alexander, by referring to the pedigree I mean that this design has made multiple ocean crossings, but also that Andy has explained quite comprehensively the work (and quality thereof) that has gone into this particular example.
@@Cynicalsailing I've not been able to find any ocean crossings references, Shane. Nothing.
Mark the best advice I can give you is to watch Emerald Steel channel who have had the same steel boat for over 30 years in which they built. They have a tone of experience and have many videos on the care of steel boats, Other than that Melody is a really good boat to get into too. I love the fact of her keel and that she set up right at low tied if you wanted too. This ability can and will save you money on haul outs which will give you more money for repairs and up-keep. But only you really know what you want. Good luck Mark and I hope you find the boat that is right for you.✌️
thanks for posting and sharing.
HI Mark,
I had a 33 footer steel boat. One think you'll have in mind is I AM SAFE. The flat part of each side of the hull are called bouchain in French. It makes the boat very stable a sea, especially going trough waves up wind and no pounding. Pilot house is a big plus when you are a full timer. At this stage you see the bones of boat and if you go forward with it, in 2 months you'll know the boat perfectly and you can redesign or adjust what ever you like. I know going for steel is a decision which is hard to answer but confort at sea, security, cheaper to buy, repair and have a good size dinghy. This boat will carry staff no problem.About the freedom, there is not enough headroom for you and if you load the boat a little too much, you'll lose the performance. A light boat for the week end and summer is ok but for you ???? make a list of your priorities and stick to it. Myself, I really like the freedom but not for sailing full time.With melody all options are on table. One more thing, melody is very well design. Happy sailing!
Wow, what a cool boat. It's so nice to see real generosity
great offer and andy knowing he boat and some experts for the knowledge, also new skills for you 2 learn welding etc
Now that's a great project and worth doing. My bet is you will buy it. I hope. Good luck.
Barry 'the adventures of an Old Seadog' has a steel boat and he has got half way around the world so I don't think that rust is a problem. Ar least with Melody you know that all the major items have been thoroughly gone over, it is only the finishing that is needed. Also if you bought it and didn't like it there ls money to be made on the sale.
Barry spends a lot of time dealing with rust. 😅
Barry has stated never again with steel.
@@coffee6783 yep, expert chipper of rust is Barry.
I’ve seen the work being done on this boat and it appeared to be good and the replacement of the rot with new steel is a big plus, but that Freedom is so easy for 1 person to sail. How easy is this one to handle with 1 person? Great that Andy will help you get it in the water. 🤗
I'm sure he can sail this solo, it's probably pretty slow to react
Has roller reefing on Jib, and in mast main furling, single handed about as straight forward as you could reasonably get with a conventional rig.
It would be great if you could look at the McGregor pilot house project boat. Yes she has a lot of length but narrow beam and easily short-handed. Fast and comfortable and very well-built. She's actually quite fast under power alone. Fantastic passagemaker.
lovely weather you`re having
Two for one today 😉
Edit... Good deal.. but you have to want it. When I said pay attention Mark about Andy's boat, I meant pay attention there are deals out there and some lovely looking boats, proper boats. I didn't mean you should buy Melody.
Last week I said if you can get it cheap buy it and keep looking. I don't know if that is fair on Andy because you could selling again before he's even finished. You want a yacht that can sail around the world and has an engine to get you out of trouble. Both your previous boats lacked that vital bit of go.
Andy's Bowman looks very go...
If I was a policeman I would give him a speeding fine for just looking too fast.
Melody will be a super boat for the right person... are you the right person?
Glad I am not making your decisions.
Great episode. Looks like our weather yesterday.
And being a steel bilge-keeler that stands on any mud-flat, I'd love this yacht.