Wod trailer made me go to the gym and at the end of the exp (around hfc lfr) it went into my prime and peak physical shape back in my youth. That trailer was made for real men that play real wow, unfortunately that exp was not that good but that trailer is definetly the best one...
@@IrishBiteGirl maybe so, but 3 didn't have the best launch xD I usually don't worry about what sort of build I use until I go into higher torments as well
When he talks about how hype Wrath was and how pumped everyone was for Arthas, how everyone knew he was coming and they were just so ready for it and wanted it... I feel like N'zoth was so underdelivered. Like, we all knew he was coming, but Blizzard tried to act like they could hint at him? Like it was gonna be a big reveal? We all were just waiting for it, and they just kept acting like "nah, that's nothing"
Thing is, Arthas had his own history in wc3, so you already know the guy. N'zoth is a big baddie and he's responsible for the Naga, but that's about it, so no one cares about the guy.
I haven't played literally any videogames when WOTLK came out but got the biggest shivers when I first saw the video (still do). In my opinion the greatest strength of the Lich King cinematic is that you can intuitevely understand what's happening without context. Even if you don't know a thing about Warcraft in general, you feel that this is a tragic story of a fallen king who was once a promising prince and it is FUCKING EPIC. WOD requires the viewers to know the story of demon blood, without it the video is about something *not* happening, and if you don't know what should have happened it just goes over you head.
@@babymahruaii819 He just means that you can extrapolate what was going to happen with the Demon's blood even if you never knew the WC3 story, the cinematic gives you some idea with the dialogue between Grom and Gul'dan. I'd argue that Garrosh's presence is the more intrusive factor, as it would be difficult to know who he was or where (when) he came from, or how significant his time meddling is for the story.
There are videos of people who know nothing of WoW and they watch the cinematics. Most ended up saying the best was Warlords of Draenor or Battle for Azeroth. They are action packed and have emotional highs. People with no knowledge of WoW think he’s a discount Night King and think the Lich king is boring because nothing really happens. Back then even if people didn’t know who he was, it had a very pretty song that evokes The Gladiator, Lord of The Rings, and Halo which were early 2000s classics.
Asmon likes the WOD cinematic because it tells a story. I think that the cinematics should act to introduce something and leave a dire hunger for more story
@@samanosuke4851 Yea, guess he was, I assumed he wasn't because I just can't find any mention of his history as a paladin despite being old enough to be one of the first ones, you would think that smth would be said about it..
Bolvar was barely the Lich King. He was the Lich King in title alone, basically. I don't know why people get upset that he lost. He didn't have Frostmourne, he didn't have Val'kyr, he had no army, *and* he resisted the Helm of Domination's influence, thus lowering his power. He's basically just a crispy undead dude.
The Lich King is to the Jailer is what the Lil' Ragnaros is to the actual Ragnaros it comes as no surprise that the Jailer's champion (Sylvannas) is more powerful than Walmart Lich King
we also forget that sylvanas is a genius tactician, am i the only one who remembers that she herself almost killed the lich king in warcraft 3, kelthuzed barely saving him in time. so of course sylvanas would be able to come up with a plan to take out a half baked lich king with no frost more and no powers
Not to mention that she was not trying nearly as hard in her fight with Saurfang than she was in her lich king fight. only being caught off guard near the end because of Saurfang's words.
Wdym he had no army? The entirety of the Scourge is not an army anymore? And what about the whole deal with the Knights of the Ebon Blade? They did cooperate with Bolvar pretty well during the Legion, why didnt he call them and said that he needed help? Why there is no single frostwyrm or giant skeletons at his side, but there are plenty of them now in the pre-patch? Oh wait, I know why BECAUSE PLOT And btw dont even start with the whole "We destroyed most of the Scourge during WotLK" shit, there are no confirmation to this as far as I know, and if that was true then why the hell we even needed Bolvar as the Lich King in the first place? We could have just finish them off then and thats it. The whole fraze "There must always be a Lich King" is completely not true now. P.s. He didnt have Frostmourne, but he still had the helm. But I guess to most of the people here its not a very powerful artifact which grants the wearer incredible strength and necromantic & frost magic, but rather just some headdress for show-off it seems.
4:00 I sometimes think that Asmon forgets Chen was in Warcraft 3, and he was a really powerful hero character for anyone who got him from a tavern in vs.
He still is a very powerful hero in ladder if you know how to use him. You could make him as a frontline utility hero sorta like a TC, tanking damage and providing some in return, _or_ you could turn him into this full one man army fucking blademaster/demon hunter type hero that just tears through everything and then zip away like nobody's fucking business
The only constant at Blizzard is that they always had good cinematics, from the beginning to this day, anything else, became worse, but only the cinematics stayed the same!
A local mall some 20 minute drive from me literally used their cinematics as a selling point for their TVs. Like "You wanna know how dope our shit are? Then feast yourself with these epic fucking trailers in glorious 2k!"(or idk what the highest res at the time)Blizzard has always been a pioneer in cinematics. Even folks who don't know anything about their games can't help but to admit the quality of the stuffs
I like how the 2 S tiers are the ones related to WC3. And yes Wotlk one is probably the most beloved by all the players, CGI enthusiasts and even people who don't even know the series because of how good it actually is :))
Vanilla will always be the best Cinematic because it's the only one that focuses on the world and the players in it. You can see this in TBC too, but not as much. Once they started themeing expansions around a character that is when shit got gay.
I have such fond memories of the original cinematic for vanilla. When the game was down or I didn’t have internet on at the time, I’d just rewatch the cinematic over and over or look at the box art… was like 9 or 10 lol good times. Cheers
@@JRBDWD bruh illidan literally fought for his life; his life was on the line because a red dude made him his bitch. Tbf, arthas was also someone's bitch, so I guess it's a battle of who's the better bitch. It's the most epic 1v1 in Warcraft
Sebastian Thorsen Wouldn’t say the BFA cinematic is better than the WotLK cinematic Even without the lore background. The wod one though I can agree with
@@robertushaposan2048 Well it was mostly the horde getting the short end of the stick story wise until very recently. Only a fraction of all the horde characters are still alive or not a major villain while the alliance has only lost Varian and bolvar as major characters. This has created a big storytelling problem because the alliance has so many OP characters so blizzard have to make them "not" a part of the alliance any more. Khadgar is probably the best example of this.
"The Mists of Pandaria cinematic isn't WoW." It could not be MORE WoW. Horde and Alliance hate each other. You're always fighting. That's the reality of Azeroth. Every two years, we go to a new place and trash the place with our faction aggression (the beginning of the cinematic). But wait! We need Horde and Alliance to put that aside and work together (Alliance soldier handing his makeshift spear to the orc) and fight the Big Bad (tm) that's trying to destroy Azeroth this time (metaphorically the Pandaren). It is literally exactly what WoW is, in a nutshell, if you're paying attention.
The Classic WOW cinematic has to be #1 simply because that level of quality wasn’t common place back then. It was definitely a “holy shit!” moment in gaming history.
Doesn't sylvanas blasting bolvar when he is the lich king elevate arthas by showing its not just the power of the lich king that made him strong, it was arthas himself?
@@derplockholmes3392 If Arthas was so powerful due to a portion of the Jailer's power imbued in items, what does that say about Sylvanas now that she's been infused with power directly from the Jailer?
Dude bolvar never died!!! The dragonfire kept him alive! After that Arthas took him and tortured him to give in and become a DK. but he never surrenderd. So he is more of a badass then you give credit! :P
And the fact that Baldmon stilll havm't figured out whats going on lorewise kinda frustates me. In the covenenant clip they said that the runes belonged to the shadowlands, arthas was using. The helm of domination is also an item from the maw, and Sylvanas fights for the guy that controls this place. She got super strong because she too borrowed these powers. If you give her enough power to control what the Jailor has created, of course you're gonna smack dat ass. Bolvar is one hell of a dude, and he sure as heck was as string as Arthas, maybe even stronger. Just Sylvanas came prepared and she knew exactly how she can taim the Lich King, that's it.
@@matteiasm.3618 I thought Kil Jaedan created the Helm of Domination as a prison for Ner'zhul? And that Frostmourne was created from a fragment of the Helm. Did they retcon that?
Classic is my favorite for the reason he said, I like how it simply made this aesthetic world without relying on a narrative or lore to make it good. For me it's S tier for that reason, followed by BC. It simply was more exciting to me, seeing this glimpse into a world that isn't focused on the overarching story, but is just *existing*.
Savannas literally made a deal with the Jailer to get powers....the more souls that she obtained made her stronger. Yes she obviously could destroy the Lich King when he didn’t even have the same Lich king powers as arthas
Isn’t it ironic the the worst wow expansion has on of the greatest cinematic trailers in video gaming history? It was almost like Warlords of Draenor was compensating for something.
I think the problem with the SL one is not that Slyvanas beats Bolvar rather the fact that they never really showed us how her powers have grown. The whole reason that she got so powerful cause the Jailer and the souls in the Maw empowered her is totally fine but her powers rising was not shown enough through BFA. In the End it makes sense that she, with the power of the Maw, beats a rip off Lichking without Frostmourne.
Agreed. There was a hint when she one-shot Saurfang but that didn't give us a reading on how powerful she'd become or where it came from. Seems it was decided to reveal that strength against Bolvar's LK. Makes sense in hindsight.
People talk shit about BfA but if you look at the sheer quality and expressions on anduins face at the end when he realises he is ready for his duty to lead his people, the amount they communicate with 3d models and pixels is incredible.
Shadow lands was set up to be such a great expansion, if it was Called becoming the lich Queen or something it would have been a good expansion, and even if she destroyed the helmet and the scourge completely invaded azeroth and every other place on the game and the scourge became A big problem like they said Would happen if there wasn't a lich king The current expansion would be amazing. Everybody loves zombies, there's no going wrong with undead. You can make blobs of goo and make a Snowman out of it put a few darker shades of color on a call it a shadow zombie, give it some goofy voice over, Throw a healthbar on it and let people slap it, and make a 5 minute short story on it and people will absolutely go nuts over it. But instead we've got torghast instead.....
Pandas were in Warcraft though. As a Warcraft 3 fan I loved that there were pandas. I was kinda disappointed that the whole expansion was around them though. I wish they would have been an allied class like vulperas. But I still like that they're in the game. It's a cool comeback
I started at the end of Vanilla. My love for the game returned immensely when wrath of the Lich King came out. His death was tragic and then later on in Shadowlands we find out just how tragic it was.
One has to remember how many important people Arthas killed or defeated even before he was the Lich King. He killed Kel'thuzad (pre Lich), he killed Sylvanas, he killed Kael Thas' dad Anasterion. He killed Antonidas the leader of Dalaran. He killed Uther the Lightbringer, he killed his dad, he and Kel'thuzad summon Archimonde. He kills Mal'Ganis, he defeats Kael'thas, Lady Vashj, AND Illidan...and then he becomes the Lich King. As the Lich King he kills Saurfang and Bolvar (technically sort of), he kills a lot of people in Northrend, and he even kills your Raid group prior to some Deus Ex Machina Bullshit where Tirion breaks Frostmourne. Like let's be real...Bolvar is a joke compared to him. Arthas would have smoked Sylvanas in that Shadowlands Cinematic.
Same with me dude. I was just a 5 year old, don't know anything about WoW (but I did get to know WC3) and I just saw this absolutely epic trailer for it on the TVs on my local electronics joint. It still gives me the chills to this day
Wrath is SSS, it got me into WoW for a long time and before I played WoW I just watched the cinematic over and over again because it was so awesome while playing the free trial dozens of times.
it's crazy to see people that just hate WoW spam "No" when he says all the cinematics are good. I hate so much stuff that Blizzard do, but why are some people just so negative? I know it's memes mostly, but it gets real annoying.
Blizzard has the best cinematics in the industry, and arguably better than Disney and Pixar. Look at the OW2 cinematic. Of course Pixar and disney use amazing technology and effects that are much more advanced than blizzards, but to an untrained eye they look pretty much the same. Blizzard is also a video game company, not an animation studio. Off the top of my head the closest cinematic that rivals blizzard was the cyberpunk 2077 trailer.
I feel like the main thing for liking the WoD or Wrath cinematic the most is what lore you like best. I’ve always been an Orc guy. I liked Arthas’ story in Warcraft 3, but I always had love for the Orc. Grom Hellscream was the baddest dude out there. And he was already an old warrior back in Warcraft 3. Probably around Varok’s age when he died. This guy pushed in the shit of Cenarius and Manoroth single-handedly. Sure he was juiced out on the demonblood, but that’s still impressive as fuck for a single Orc. We live in an age where people follow all these bullshit Alpha male rolemodels online. Back in my day, I had fucking Grom Hellscream.
@@UsumakizVida159 and you're 14 year old litte loser that wasnt even born when warcraft 3 came out, so you better shut the fuck up on every commen reply.
@@derplockholmes3392 Can't agree more. Invincible music awakes so much feels for those who played Warcraft III and know where Arthas is coming from and how the Lich King shaped him to be the ultimate death knight he was. Even without this knowledge, it's a beautiful song. This and the Lament of the Highborne are absolute master pieces. I miss the times when Warcraft universe was actually dark and could make you feel the sadness and despair of this insane world. Nowdays it just feels like generic badass Hollywood action stories... It's like the difference between a homemade burger filled with love and a 2 minutes made McDonald's burger. I like McDonald's burgers for sure, but it's not something I would remember eating.
not a good start for me, as an alliance player, seeing my king, who is inherently a priest, drop his sword to cast MASS REZ as a paladin, to save everyone, was way too hype to try and judge him for crying lol.
Grommash should have been the last boss of wod. I imagine him trying to get his vengeance over his son. Meanwhile Guldan and his fel horde try to summon Archimonde. The battle of three armies happen. Seriously imagine the beautiful lore it would have been. Fighting side by side with Grommash to kill Archimonde and then he turn at you: "As my son wished, no orc would live under those demons... But now... Its your turn, warriors... Lok'tar... OGAAAAAR !!"
I loved that when you opened up the game after installing WOTLK and watching the cinematic, it took you straight to the create at Death Knight screen at log-in
Bfa one was amazing. I’m an alliance player. The fact Anduin went healer there was the best part. I wooped. He’s not his dad, and I was sick of him trying to be his dad. He’s a healer! A good guy! And the whole concept of being the good guy, is why I play the alliance in the first place.
I honestly still think the WOTLK one looks better than BFA even in terms of graphics, it still has the artstyle charm to it while also just being visually amazing. Id switch BFA with TBC tbh. Shadowlands is a clear F, the only good thing about it is the Lich King standing up. visuals were nice especially the world tear.
If you think WOTLK looks better than BFA in terms of graphics when there's literally several years difference between them, BFA being the latest one, i can safely say you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Why do people think sylvanas beating LK doesn't make sense while both of them get their powers from the same source? And she didn't even beat him, she just chained him up outa nowhere.
The wod cinematic was amazing to watch but makes no sense after starting the game. Gul'dan is way stronger than Grom, he doesnt even make effort to beat him so how did they capture him or the other members of the council, that cinematic was just made to pump Grom as the end boss but well things gone differently.
I mean where they lacked in graphics. They really captured the depraved horrors of war in that cinematic at the wraith gate, more than I've ever seen in any of the other cinematics
>Bolvar, human, doesn't flee and succumbs to the plague >The Lich King, a death knight, flees the battleground and barely manages to escape in his safe space I genuinely don't know how people can objectively think that cutscene put LK above Bolvar
Clearly Asmond didin't play WoW back in the first days.... The feeling that the first cinematic brings in our hearts, even today is a thing that can not be obtained.
sylvanas literally parries saurfang strike with one hand and then dances around him, to the point she puts him in all 4 and whisper to his ear and asmongold says she had a hard time with him? what?
The chat is so stupid. They just keep spamming ratings for cinematics that are based on their perception of the expansion. Everyone spamming F and D in the chat when WoD came up, even though it was probably the best one.
The moment that terenas says but the true victory is stirring the heart of ur people and u feel like there are an army of humans serving their king but when they turn back theyre the dammened sons of scourge everything is true even if they look real false! Magneficent paradoxes one after another😢☺️
@@badass6300 Arthas was not stronger than Bolvar when he killed her because he was just a dk with op sword, while Bolvar was the literal lich king fighting an overpowered banshee queen. So the first fight between Arthas and Sylvanas was like a badass DK vs a badass ranger general of the elves its well known she was rly strong when she was alive also.
@@badass6300 dude rly wtf what part of bolvar was the lich king you dont get ? Are you trolling me or sometin ? The lich king empowering someone and being the lich king himself is different cant you understand that ?
The thing about the Shadowlands cinematic is that Bolvar isn't a bitch and THAT is what makes his loss so shocking. Sylv has out maneuvered the best of everyone since the beginning and seeing her do it again just proves she is STILL cunning but when she beats Bulvar straight up then she is something more and that is what we need to figure out. Not only that but it just shows how strong Arthas was. Arthas would have put up a fight far more valiant than Bolvar even with Sylv being so strong.
I am getting tears watching the classic and tbc cinematics. It is not about the cinematic it self. It is about what they did to me at that time. They promised a game experience I never had in my entire life. Playing your own charaker with other people in a shared world..and experience??? What??... And then in one of the best designed universes of all time. Really WoW is something great.
WoD was actually a good expansion compared to what we are getting today in the likes of BFA and SL. IMO WoD is one of the most underrated expansion in WoW-history.
From the fantastic cinematic, to the brilliant idea behind the whole story, just the execution of it was that bad. They had tremendous problems with getting out content and creating a lukewarm housing system. When you think of the idea behind it, the possibilities, It could have been on par with their best expansions. But they ruined it themself.
The Lichking has 3 major Powers, one is the Frostmourn that takes the souls and uses them as a source of power, and the helm that grants him control over the dead. Bolvar only had the helm. so IMO, they did Arthas justice by making Bolvar not strong as Arthas, cus Arthas was one of the major powers of the Lichking.
Uhhh no, that wasn't because they were saying it was F-tier. It was because something wrong happened to the stream. That's why you can see the editor cut the video to after the issue happened.
Yoooo Sylvanas has the power of the Jailer when she fights Bolvar, how do people not see that? The LK has the power of the Jailer too, so their power levels at the SL cinematic is about the same. Thus the semi-long fight which, let's be honest, was kinda close for both parties, but Sylvanas ended up winning because she was all that the LK was + more agile
Asmongold just doesn't know lore and can't read cinematics. Sylvanas was toying with Saurfang, showing everone that his is nothing to her. She just uses her knifes to beat him. Easy parry and easy blows. And Arthas was much more powerful than Bolvar as a Lich king because about 75% of his power comes from Frostmourn. Without it's power he will fall much easier. I would even risk a sentence that Sylvanas boosted by power from the Maw will clash swords with Arthas as equal because his power also came from shadowland (Helm of Domination and Frostmourn were made there)
Okay, I think the reason that there is a difference between her fight with Saurfang and fight with the lich king is that with Saurfang, she was not trying nearly as hard then she was in her fight with the lich king. I think that the reason it seemed near the end of the Saurfang fight she seems caught off guard was because she was not expecting that to happen and was prodded enough to become enraged and not think as clearly. Still stupid how inconsistent it does feel though, Blizz should have done much better. Also, as I saw in another comment here, the new lich king is far weaker than Arthas was because he does not have Frostmourne, does not have Val'kyr, does not have as strong an army as Arthas did, and resisted the influence of the helm of domination for quite some time, only just completely succumbing to it in that cinematic, so to compare Bolvar Lich King to Arthas Lich King, I think is not fair because they are on completely different power levels.
Bolvar didn't really act like a lich king, he didn't create new servants after the 25 cleared ICC, he just held the remains in check. Also, Shadowmourne was a huge power factor, which he also never had. Dunno where that hammer came from tho. Plus, Silvanas is filled to the brim with jailer-magics or whatever, that's why its not an even fight
Wait I'd totally forgotten about the wrathgate cinematic. Why the hell were the foresaken not yeeted the fuck out of the horde after doing that? And why did Sylvanas manage to somehow then become leader of the Horde a few years later?
Asmongold saying that Sylvanas had no chance against Bolvar (Lich King) is fucking moronic. He doesn’t know what he is talking about. They literally explained why Arthas was so strong.
People are confusing the cinematic with the actual expansions when they are rating these
so rare to see algerian here
@@barrelz8646 same
Wod trailer made me go to the gym and at the end of the exp (around hfc lfr) it went into my prime and peak physical shape back in my youth. That trailer was made for real men that play real wow, unfortunately that exp was not that good but that trailer is definetly the best one...
Like how diablo 4's cinematic looks amazing, but I don't think I'll buy it right away
@@IrishBiteGirl maybe so, but 3 didn't have the best launch xD
I usually don't worry about what sort of build I use until I go into higher torments as well
Nice troll in the thumbnail, but I knew the baldness would never give mop an S.
Same, but I like seeing that more than the whole damn list being in the thumbnail, kinda ruining the point of the video
ROFL MOP cinematic is awful
Cinematic wasn't so good, but MoP was the best expansion in wow history
@@ziggs123 nice joke my guy
@@ziggs123 pvp golden age
Asmon: *Mocks Bolvar for falling to the plague*
Also Asmon: *Dies to the same plague after the Battle for Lordaeron*
the classic WoW cinematic is legendary, and im not even a classic andy. It's almost 16 years old and looks amazing.
That's because it's the best version of wow.
@@xgetxsickx delusional classic Andy.
@@xgetxsickx TBC is way better
@@InnerCircleMember01 you probably liked mop
It made Tauren look fucking godlike
there's a reason why we were all so hyped for wod before the expansion came out and it's absolutely because of the amazing cinematic
The best cinematic leading to the greatest dissapointment
Did someone say apex crystal?
"WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES" good fucking shit
TheManudo00 got any apex crystal
@@andrejjelcic3675 I mean some of them cut their hand for fun so...
To this day I still get chills when I hear him say: WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES
BUT WE WILL BE CONQUERORS
When he talks about how hype Wrath was and how pumped everyone was for Arthas, how everyone knew he was coming and they were just so ready for it and wanted it...
I feel like N'zoth was so underdelivered.
Like, we all knew he was coming, but Blizzard tried to act like they could hint at him? Like it was gonna be a big reveal? We all were just waiting for it, and they just kept acting like "nah, that's nothing"
Thing is, Arthas had his own history in wc3, so you already know the guy. N'zoth is a big baddie and he's responsible for the Naga, but that's about it, so no one cares about the guy.
I haven't played literally any videogames when WOTLK came out but got the biggest shivers when I first saw the video (still do). In my opinion the greatest strength of the Lich King cinematic is that you can intuitevely understand what's happening without context. Even if you don't know a thing about Warcraft in general, you feel that this is a tragic story of a fallen king who was once a promising prince and it is FUCKING EPIC.
WOD requires the viewers to know the story of demon blood, without it the video is about something *not* happening, and if you don't know what should have happened it just goes over you head.
I disagree with your premise that wod cinematic makes no sense. You just need to know orcs are badass and demons are bad. The story makes it better.
@@ogJbizz well, you're literally the one he's explaining when he talked about wod
@@babymahruaii819 He just means that you can extrapolate what was going to happen with the Demon's blood even if you never knew the WC3 story, the cinematic gives you some idea with the dialogue between Grom and Gul'dan. I'd argue that Garrosh's presence is the more intrusive factor, as it would be difficult to know who he was or where (when) he came from, or how significant his time meddling is for the story.
There are videos of people who know nothing of WoW and they watch the cinematics. Most ended up saying the best was Warlords of Draenor or Battle for Azeroth. They are action packed and have emotional highs. People with no knowledge of WoW think he’s a discount Night King and think the Lich king is boring because nothing really happens. Back then even if people didn’t know who he was, it had a very pretty song that evokes The Gladiator, Lord of The Rings, and Halo which were early 2000s classics.
I agree but i still think the Lich King trailer is miles ahead of WOD. And id put the Vanilla trailer in S tier as well. WOD probably in the B tier.
Asmon likes the WOD cinematic because it tells a story. I think that the cinematics should act to introduce something and leave a dire hunger for more story
Bolvar lost since he was a ret paladin and never died to become a DK.
lol
but Bolvar was a warrior, never a paladin
StormBlade No, he was a Pally
@@samanosuke4851 Yea, guess he was, I assumed he wasn't because I just can't find any mention of his history as a paladin despite being old enough to be one of the first ones, you would think that smth would be said about it..
Lmao Bolvar simply lost because of the shitass rotation, little to none utilities and the superbad GCD Retpalas have in BFA. Wasn't suprised kekw
@@matteiasm.3618 Ret Paladins were broken af in wotlk, he lost because DKs were even stronger lmao
Bolvar was barely the Lich King. He was the Lich King in title alone, basically. I don't know why people get upset that he lost. He didn't have Frostmourne, he didn't have Val'kyr, he had no army, *and* he resisted the Helm of Domination's influence, thus lowering his power. He's basically just a crispy undead dude.
The Lich King is to the Jailer is what the Lil' Ragnaros is to the actual Ragnaros it comes as no surprise that the Jailer's champion (Sylvannas) is more powerful than Walmart Lich King
we also forget that sylvanas is a genius tactician, am i the only one who remembers that she herself almost killed the lich king in warcraft 3, kelthuzed barely saving him in time.
so of course sylvanas would be able to come up with a plan to take out a half baked lich king with no frost more and no powers
Not to mention that she was not trying nearly as hard in her fight with Saurfang than she was in her lich king fight. only being caught off guard near the end because of Saurfang's words.
@@Lexipumpkin783 Well that was an ambush with demonic help, and Arthas was just a DK at the time, and as a DK he one shotted her.
Wdym he had no army? The entirety of the Scourge is not an army anymore? And what about the whole deal with the Knights of the Ebon Blade? They did cooperate with Bolvar pretty well during the Legion, why didnt he call them and said that he needed help? Why there is no single frostwyrm or giant skeletons at his side, but there are plenty of them now in the pre-patch?
Oh wait, I know why
BECAUSE PLOT
And btw dont even start with the whole "We destroyed most of the Scourge during WotLK" shit, there are no confirmation to this as far as I know, and if that was true then why the hell we even needed Bolvar as the Lich King in the first place? We could have just finish them off then and thats it. The whole fraze "There must always be a Lich King" is completely not true now.
P.s. He didnt have Frostmourne, but he still had the helm. But I guess to most of the people here its not a very powerful artifact which grants the wearer incredible strength and necromantic & frost magic, but rather just some headdress for show-off it seems.
4:00 I sometimes think that Asmon forgets Chen was in Warcraft 3, and he was a really powerful hero character for anyone who got him from a tavern in vs.
He still is a very powerful hero in ladder if you know how to use him. You could make him as a frontline utility hero sorta like a TC, tanking damage and providing some in return, _or_ you could turn him into this full one man army fucking blademaster/demon hunter type hero that just tears through everything and then zip away like nobody's fucking business
The only constant at Blizzard is that they always had good cinematics, from the beginning to this day, anything else, became worse, but only the cinematics stayed the same!
A local mall some 20 minute drive from me literally used their cinematics as a selling point for their TVs. Like "You wanna know how dope our shit are? Then feast yourself with these epic fucking trailers in glorious 2k!"(or idk what the highest res at the time)Blizzard has always been a pioneer in cinematics. Even folks who don't know anything about their games can't help but to admit the quality of the stuffs
When Mannoroth first appears in that WoD trailer it gets me every time
I love the parallel to Grom's death in WC3 but then Garrosh saving him at the last moment. Also the "Times change," line.
Chills
I like how the 2 S tiers are the ones related to WC3.
And yes Wotlk one is probably the most beloved by all the players, CGI enthusiasts and even people who don't even know the series because of how good it actually is :))
Eh wolk is my least favorite tbh but that's because I never liked Arthas or the LK
Illidan > Kael'Thas >>> Arthas
Vanilla will always be the best Cinematic because it's the only one that focuses on the world and the players in it. You can see this in TBC too, but not as much. Once they started themeing expansions around a character that is when shit got gay.
I have such fond memories of the original cinematic for vanilla. When the game was down or I didn’t have internet on at the time, I’d just rewatch the cinematic over and over or look at the box art… was like 9 or 10 lol good times. Cheers
People forget that arthas while being just a dk and slowly loosing his powers was still able to beat illidan in a 1v1
Yeah, he was in such a desperate situation that he just left the demon Hunter.
People also said Illidan was "playing around"
@@JRBDWD bruh illidan literally fought for his life; his life was on the line because a red dude made him his bitch. Tbf, arthas was also someone's bitch, so I guess it's a battle of who's the better bitch. It's the most epic 1v1 in Warcraft
@@fakechloe207 I know,but Blizzard now loves retcons
Not true. The lich king was funneling him every ounce of power to Arthas and Illidan was just playing around. Then got defeated because of plot
*Forsaken betrays the Horde*
Horde: “We forgive you, and we’ll even make Sylvannas the Warchief eventually!”
Man every time I hear the music in the Wrath cinematic I feel them chills and my eyes fill up with tears.
Tfw asmongold doesnt realize that The only reason Anduin cried is due to his Very deep and Strong Connection to The Light and it overwhelmed him
That doesnt make it any better IMO.
But that might just be me i guess, i despise the light.
Wrath deserves a tier on it's own
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No it doesn't lol
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really doesn't. WoD and BFA cinematics are way better. Wrath cinematic is only good cause of its lore.
Sebastian Thorsen Wouldn’t say the BFA cinematic is better than the WotLK cinematic Even without the lore background. The wod one though I can agree with
asmon cying about his king crying in bfa, but our warchief litterally ditched us lol
I think it doesn't matter if you alliance or horde, blizz always know how to makes us angry
@@robertushaposan2048 true.
@@robertushaposan2048 Well it was mostly the horde getting the short end of the stick story wise until very recently. Only a fraction of all the horde characters are still alive or not a major villain while the alliance has only lost Varian and bolvar as major characters. This has created a big storytelling problem because the alliance has so many OP characters so blizzard have to make them "not" a part of the alliance any more. Khadgar is probably the best example of this.
The Wraith cinematic still hypes me up the same level as it did when I was that 15year old nerd. Arthas did nothing wrong.
I can see you've played blacklight retribution before :D
"The Mists of Pandaria cinematic isn't WoW."
It could not be MORE WoW.
Horde and Alliance hate each other. You're always fighting. That's the reality of Azeroth.
Every two years, we go to a new place and trash the place with our faction aggression (the beginning of the cinematic).
But wait! We need Horde and Alliance to put that aside and work together (Alliance soldier handing his makeshift spear to the orc) and fight the Big Bad (tm) that's trying to destroy Azeroth this time (metaphorically the Pandaren).
It is literally exactly what WoW is, in a nutshell, if you're paying attention.
The Classic WOW cinematic has to be #1 simply because that level of quality wasn’t common place back then. It was definitely a “holy shit!” moment in gaming history.
Wait people actually think Anduin was crying? Jesus christ
Wrath is by far the best. Great visuals and the story being told is fantastic if you understand it
Doesn't sylvanas blasting bolvar when he is the lich king elevate arthas by showing its not just the power of the lich king that made him strong, it was arthas himself?
No because we never got to see what a death-power-infused sylvanas vs arthas fight looks like.
Arthas had Frostmourne, Bolvar in the cinematic has an lvl 85 two-handed mace. But probably you're still right.
I'd say it shows how extremely overpowered and how much Blizzard loves Sylvanas. If Arthas was alive they would have used him instead of Bolvar.
@@derplockholmes3392 If Arthas was so powerful due to a portion of the Jailer's power imbued in items, what does that say about Sylvanas now that she's been infused with power directly from the Jailer?
Dude bolvar never died!!! The dragonfire kept him alive! After that Arthas took him and tortured him to give in and become a DK. but he never surrenderd. So he is more of a badass then you give credit! :P
And the fact that Baldmon stilll havm't figured out whats going on lorewise kinda frustates me. In the covenenant clip they said that the runes belonged to the shadowlands, arthas was using. The helm of domination is also an item from the maw, and Sylvanas fights for the guy that controls this place. She got super strong because she too borrowed these powers. If you give her enough power to control what the Jailor has created, of course you're gonna smack dat ass. Bolvar is one hell of a dude, and he sure as heck was as string as Arthas, maybe even stronger. Just Sylvanas came prepared and she knew exactly how she can taim the Lich King, that's it.
@@matteiasm.3618 I thought Kil Jaedan created the Helm of Domination as a prison for Ner'zhul? And that Frostmourne was created from a fragment of the Helm. Did they retcon that?
Ah fanboys
@@IceLizardsUnited yep, i think so
@@IceLizardsUnited No, the Nethrazim stole the helm from the shadowlands and gave it to Kil'Jaedan to create Nerzhul and pre-invade azeroth.
Call BFA B if you want and complain about Anduin crying if you want but my god. . when calls on the light to heal his army. EPIC.
Classic is my favorite for the reason he said, I like how it simply made this aesthetic world without relying on a narrative or lore to make it good. For me it's S tier for that reason, followed by BC. It simply was more exciting to me, seeing this glimpse into a world that isn't focused on the overarching story, but is just *existing*.
Savannas literally made a deal with the Jailer to get powers....the more souls that she obtained made her stronger. Yes she obviously could destroy the Lich King when he didn’t even have the same Lich king powers as arthas
Even though I spelled the name wrong my phone and I ranting is too fast haha
Isn’t it ironic the the worst wow expansion has on of the greatest cinematic trailers in video gaming history? It was almost like Warlords of Draenor was compensating for something.
BfA is far worse than WoD was
@@mortyllien I will not argue that logic.
Those eyebrows are actually alien caterpillars that live on his face
funny to see spergs calling games of throne when syndragosa appears, its literally 10 years before GoT
@@n9ne I know, but the fifth book ( which does not even mention any undead dragon at all) was out in like what 2015 I think
First Warcraft game came out before first game of thrones book.
And the lore of warcraft is older than the first game. So what does that tell you?
I think the problem with the SL one is not that Slyvanas beats Bolvar rather the fact that they never really showed us how her powers have grown. The whole reason that she got so powerful cause the Jailer and the souls in the Maw empowered her is totally fine but her powers rising was not shown enough through BFA. In the End it makes sense that she, with the power of the Maw, beats a rip off Lichking without Frostmourne.
Agreed. There was a hint when she one-shot Saurfang but that didn't give us a reading on how powerful she'd become or where it came from. Seems it was decided to reveal that strength against Bolvar's LK. Makes sense in hindsight.
People talk shit about BfA but if you look at the sheer quality and expressions on anduins face at the end when he realises he is ready for his duty to lead his people, the amount they communicate with 3d models and pixels is incredible.
Shadow lands was set up to be such a great expansion, if it was Called becoming the lich Queen or something it would have been a good expansion, and even if she destroyed the helmet and the scourge completely invaded azeroth and every other place on the game and the scourge became A big problem like they said Would happen if there wasn't a lich king The current expansion would be amazing. Everybody loves zombies, there's no going wrong with undead. You can make blobs of goo and make a Snowman out of it put a few darker shades of color on a call it a shadow zombie, give it some goofy voice over, Throw a healthbar on it and let people slap it, and make a 5 minute short story on it and people will absolutely go nuts over it. But instead we've got torghast instead.....
Pandas were in Warcraft though. As a Warcraft 3 fan I loved that there were pandas. I was kinda disappointed that the whole expansion was around them though. I wish they would have been an allied class like vulperas. But I still like that they're in the game. It's a cool comeback
I started at the end of Vanilla. My love for the game returned immensely when wrath of the Lich King came out. His death was tragic and then later on in Shadowlands we find out just how tragic it was.
One has to remember how many important people Arthas killed or defeated even before he was the Lich King. He killed Kel'thuzad (pre Lich), he killed Sylvanas, he killed Kael Thas' dad Anasterion. He killed Antonidas the leader of Dalaran. He killed Uther the Lightbringer, he killed his dad, he and Kel'thuzad summon Archimonde. He kills Mal'Ganis, he defeats Kael'thas, Lady Vashj, AND Illidan...and then he becomes the Lich King. As the Lich King he kills Saurfang and Bolvar (technically sort of), he kills a lot of people in Northrend, and he even kills your Raid group prior to some Deus Ex Machina Bullshit where Tirion breaks Frostmourne. Like let's be real...Bolvar is a joke compared to him. Arthas would have smoked Sylvanas in that Shadowlands Cinematic.
I remember when the Litch King cinematic came out they played it on the news.
Same with me dude. I was just a 5 year old, don't know anything about WoW (but I did get to know WC3) and I just saw this absolutely epic trailer for it on the TVs on my local electronics joint. It still gives me the chills to this day
Wrath is SSS, it got me into WoW for a long time and before I played WoW I just watched the cinematic over and over again because it was so awesome while playing the free trial dozens of times.
it's crazy to see people that just hate WoW spam "No" when he says all the cinematics are good. I hate so much stuff that Blizzard do, but why are some people just so negative? I know it's memes mostly, but it gets real annoying.
Because most ppl are virgin spergs just like 99% of Wow players are dogshit at the game lol
Blizzard has the best cinematics in the industry, and arguably better than Disney and Pixar. Look at the OW2 cinematic. Of course Pixar and disney use amazing technology and effects that are much more advanced than blizzards, but to an untrained eye they look pretty much the same. Blizzard is also a video game company, not an animation studio. Off the top of my head the closest cinematic that rivals blizzard was the cyberpunk 2077 trailer.
Stop taking *anything* chat says seriously and there's the fix to your problem. Don't be like all the other people malding in the comments
@@RecklessCV Id say riot games' cinematics are also up there
Twitch chat is a mindless mob that spams what the guy above them is spamming just for the sake of it. Don't give them too much credit and ignore them.
So nerzhul and Arthas never did unleash their full power of the scourge... Arthas did exercise restraint with his great power lol
Can we talk about the fact that Sylvanas was shown 3 in a row in the cinematic as one, if not the, main character of it? Not bias at all
I feel like the main thing for liking the WoD or Wrath cinematic the most is what lore you like best. I’ve always been an Orc guy. I liked Arthas’ story in Warcraft 3, but I always had love for the Orc. Grom Hellscream was the baddest dude out there. And he was already an old warrior back in Warcraft 3. Probably around Varok’s age when he died. This guy pushed in the shit of Cenarius and Manoroth single-handedly. Sure he was juiced out on the demonblood, but that’s still impressive as fuck for a single Orc.
We live in an age where people follow all these bullshit Alpha male rolemodels online. Back in my day, I had fucking Grom Hellscream.
Wotlk cinematic gives me chill everytime I see it. I like WoD too. But for me, wotlk is better.
Because you have no taste
@@UsumakizVida159 and you're 14 year old litte loser that wasnt even born when warcraft 3 came out, so you better shut the fuck up on every commen reply.
@@alirezaabz654 triggered WOTLK fans lmao
@@alirezaabz654 just get over it even the expansion was garbage
@@derplockholmes3392 Can't agree more. Invincible music awakes so much feels for those who played Warcraft III and know where Arthas is coming from and how the Lich King shaped him to be the ultimate death knight he was. Even without this knowledge, it's a beautiful song. This and the Lament of the Highborne are absolute master pieces. I miss the times when Warcraft universe was actually dark and could make you feel the sadness and despair of this insane world.
Nowdays it just feels like generic badass Hollywood action stories... It's like the difference between a homemade burger filled with love and a 2 minutes made McDonald's burger. I like McDonald's burgers for sure, but it's not something I would remember eating.
Cata cinematic is top tier for me, I still re-watch it every now and then and get shivers every time
not a good start for me, as an alliance player, seeing my king, who is inherently a priest, drop his sword to cast MASS REZ as a paladin, to save everyone, was way too hype to try and judge him for crying lol.
I didn't see Anduin as crying, more that his eyes were watering from looking up into that dazzling light.
WOTLK is the best in my opinion, just that music, even after all these years, i always get chills when i hear that
Grommash should have been the last boss of wod.
I imagine him trying to get his vengeance over his son. Meanwhile Guldan and his fel horde try to summon Archimonde. The battle of three armies happen.
Seriously imagine the beautiful lore it would have been. Fighting side by side with Grommash to kill Archimonde and then he turn at you:
"As my son wished, no orc would live under those demons... But now... Its your turn, warriors... Lok'tar... OGAAAAAR !!"
I thought Anduin crying was normal? I see Paladins especially Ret Palladins crying all the time
The way he just deadlifted that IronStar Thrower and launched it. Absolute unit among units.
I feel like Asmons arguements for why Sylvanis beating Bolvar was stupid were actually just arguments for the other side
I loved that when you opened up the game after installing WOTLK and watching the cinematic, it took you straight to the create at Death Knight screen at log-in
what I want to know is how the hell did Bolvar grow 5 feet and enlarge every aspect of his body to fit into the liche kings armor?
Bfa one was amazing. I’m an alliance player. The fact Anduin went healer there was the best part. I wooped. He’s not his dad, and I was sick of him trying to be his dad. He’s a healer! A good guy! And the whole concept of being the good guy, is why I play the alliance in the first place.
I honestly still think the WOTLK one looks better than BFA even in terms of graphics, it still has the artstyle charm to it while also just being visually amazing.
Id switch BFA with TBC tbh.
Shadowlands is a clear F, the only good thing about it is the Lich King standing up. visuals were nice especially the world tear.
If you think WOTLK looks better than BFA in terms of graphics when there's literally several years difference between them, BFA being the latest one, i can safely say you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
The Shadowlands one is objectively good.
Good one dude
@Qimodis ??
Why do people think sylvanas beating LK doesn't make sense while both of them get their powers from the same source?
And she didn't even beat him, she just chained him up outa nowhere.
No matter the time travel, WoD had one of the best fking setting they could come up with.
And they've screwed it up so hard eventually
The wod cinematic was amazing to watch but makes no sense after starting the game. Gul'dan is way stronger than Grom, he doesnt even make effort to beat him so how did they capture him or the other members of the council, that cinematic was just made to pump Grom as the end boss but well things gone differently.
13:50 The soundtrack is the most epic soundtrack there is
I mean where they lacked in graphics. They really captured the depraved horrors of war in that cinematic at the wraith gate, more than I've ever seen in any of the other cinematics
>Bolvar, human, doesn't flee and succumbs to the plague
>The Lich King, a death knight, flees the battleground and barely manages to escape in his safe space
I genuinely don't know how people can objectively think that cutscene put LK above Bolvar
Clearly Asmond didin't play WoW back in the first days....
The feeling that the first cinematic brings in our hearts, even today is a thing that can not be obtained.
The Dragonflight cinematic is D tier.
sylvanas literally parries saurfang strike with one hand and then dances around him, to the point she puts him in all 4 and whisper to his ear and asmongold says she had a hard time with him? what?
“Boom, get him outta here”😭😂
He didn’t get killed, he survived the plague, dragons and torture
The chat is so stupid. They just keep spamming ratings for cinematics that are based on their perception of the expansion. Everyone spamming F and D in the chat when WoD came up, even though it was probably the best one.
The moment that terenas says but the true victory is stirring the heart of ur people and u feel like there are an army of humans serving their king but when they turn back theyre the dammened sons of scourge everything is true even if they look real false! Magneficent paradoxes one after another😢☺️
BFA and woltk cinematics are the one that gave me the most emotions, Wod and Legion are the most badass, the others are meh
Arthas was not even a Lich King when he one shoted her....
@@badass6300 Arthas was not stronger than Bolvar when he killed her because he was just a dk with op sword, while Bolvar was the literal lich king fighting an overpowered banshee queen. So the first fight between Arthas and Sylvanas was like a badass DK vs a badass ranger general of the elves its well known she was rly strong when she was alive also.
@@badass6300 dude rly wtf what part of bolvar was the lich king you dont get ? Are you trolling me or sometin ? The lich king empowering someone and being the lich king himself is different cant you understand that ?
It'd be cool if the Wrathgate cinematic was one day remade with the quality of an expansion cinematic
This is what happens when you use a vanilla weapon in wrath. (Arcanite Reaper)
The thing about the Shadowlands cinematic is that Bolvar isn't a bitch and THAT is what makes his loss so shocking. Sylv has out maneuvered the best of everyone since the beginning and seeing her do it again just proves she is STILL cunning but when she beats Bulvar straight up then she is something more and that is what we need to figure out. Not only that but it just shows how strong Arthas was. Arthas would have put up a fight far more valiant than Bolvar even with Sylv being so strong.
nobody wanted sylvia to break the mask, they wanted her to wear it
I am getting tears watching the classic and tbc cinematics. It is not about the cinematic it self. It is about what they did to me at that time. They promised a game experience I never had in my entire life. Playing your own charaker with other people in a shared world..and experience??? What??... And then in one of the best designed universes of all time. Really WoW is something great.
Got killed by a debuff… that sounds even worse lmao
I wish theyd make a full movie with the same designers they used to make the WOD cinematic.
WoD was actually a good expansion compared to what we are getting today in the likes of BFA and SL. IMO WoD is one of the most underrated expansion in WoW-history.
From the fantastic cinematic, to the brilliant idea behind the whole story, just the execution of it was that bad. They had tremendous problems with getting out content and creating a lukewarm housing system.
When you think of the idea behind it, the possibilities, It could have been on par with their best expansions. But they ruined it themself.
The Lichking has 3 major Powers, one is the Frostmourn that takes the souls and uses them as a source of power, and the helm that grants him control over the dead. Bolvar only had the helm.
so IMO, they did Arthas justice by making Bolvar not strong as Arthas, cus Arthas was one of the major powers of the Lichking.
Everyone in chat saying WoD cinematic is F and then when Asmongold says its good they all say TRUE, yeeeesh
Uhhh no, that wasn't because they were saying it was F-tier. It was because something wrong happened to the stream. That's why you can see the editor cut the video to after the issue happened.
Yoooo Sylvanas has the power of the Jailer when she fights Bolvar, how do people not see that? The LK has the power of the Jailer too, so their power levels at the SL cinematic is about the same. Thus the semi-long fight which, let's be honest, was kinda close for both parties, but Sylvanas ended up winning because she was all that the LK was + more agile
Asmongold just doesn't know lore and can't read cinematics. Sylvanas was toying with Saurfang, showing everone that his is nothing to her. She just uses her knifes to beat him. Easy parry and easy blows. And Arthas was much more powerful than Bolvar as a Lich king because about 75% of his power comes from Frostmourn. Without it's power he will fall much easier. I would even risk a sentence that Sylvanas boosted by power from the Maw will clash swords with Arthas as equal because his power also came from shadowland (Helm of Domination and Frostmourn were made there)
Okay, I think the reason that there is a difference between her fight with Saurfang and fight with the lich king is that with Saurfang, she was not trying nearly as hard then she was in her fight with the lich king. I think that the reason it seemed near the end of the Saurfang fight she seems caught off guard was because she was not expecting that to happen and was prodded enough to become enraged and not think as clearly. Still stupid how inconsistent it does feel though, Blizz should have done much better. Also, as I saw in another comment here, the new lich king is far weaker than Arthas was because he does not have Frostmourne, does not have Val'kyr, does not have as strong an army as Arthas did, and resisted the influence of the helm of domination for quite some time, only just completely succumbing to it in that cinematic, so to compare Bolvar Lich King to Arthas Lich King, I think is not fair because they are on completely different power levels.
Bolvar didn't really act like a lich king, he didn't create new servants after the 25 cleared ICC, he just held the remains in check. Also, Shadowmourne was a huge power factor, which he also never had. Dunno where that hammer came from tho. Plus, Silvanas is filled to the brim with jailer-magics or whatever, that's why its not an even fight
wasn't the main source of power for Arthas the frostmourne?
bolvar didn't have it
How did he make it a 33 minute video. Holy shit he knows how to make content ...
Bolvar is no bitch, he survived the plague, the red dragon fire and the lich kings control while being tortured
In a few years we're gonna have another WoD style expansion where we enter an alternate past where Sylvannas actually did become the Lich King.
Bro, I watch a lot of your videos and leave likes, but you can't just summarize Saurfang as "an old Orc". Put some respect on his name.
Its true, kids that never played WC3... would never understand what it meant to see that the next xpac focus was going to be The Lich King...
For the love of god please blizzard just make a warcraft movie about Arthas and have the wrath of the lich king trailer at the end of the movie.
Wait I'd totally forgotten about the wrathgate cinematic. Why the hell were the foresaken not yeeted the fuck out of the horde after doing that? And why did Sylvanas manage to somehow then become leader of the Horde a few years later?
You can tell Asmongold plays Alliance because everyone who plays Horde thinks that the BFA cinematic is the best one Blizzard has made.
3 years later, WoD cinematic still the best
Asmongold saying that Sylvanas had no chance against Bolvar (Lich King) is fucking moronic. He doesn’t know what he is talking about. They literally explained why Arthas was so strong.