What Is Ido Portal's Movement Culture Missing? (Q&A Highlights)
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- čas přidán 25. 12. 2021
- What's missing from the movement world, or more specifically, Ido Portal's movement culture? Considerations for movement shoes? Chaotic disciplines and how to manage (or not manage) their risks? In this Q&A we go over all that and more.
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00:11 Which barefoot/movement shoes would you recommend and what to consider?
02:01 What are some ways to improve thoracic rotation?
03:46 This is on the transformative meditation video. I've kinda made an opposite experience ... Movement is key.
05:27 Should weightlifting shoes have any specific requirements?
06:35 What's your take on where to start people with a practice?
08:12 What are your thoughts on if I only do rock climbing, imbalances wise?
10:08 I recently started going to the gym even though I've been doing calisthenics for 2 years. The weights feel so heavy when I do weight exercises but at the same time, my elbow tendonitis feels alleviated in comparison to regular pull-ups.
11:56 If rock climbing is chaotic in its nature but also very random in the positions that it would put you in, how would you do strength training to increase that threshold? Pull ups feel linear.
13:08 What do you think the movement world is missing?
15:15 What do you think about the human gait cycle?
Hey guys! Thinking of going back for the 24 hour Q&A Round 2 sometime in the next 2 weeks. Let me know if that's something you want to see, and also if you have any ideas/suggestions for it. In the meantime, we're hard at work getting some more good content out there for you guys, and I believe I've finished my research for the rehab video, so that will soon be underway as well. Keep moving and happy holidays! :)
Yes! I'm excited to see the new stuff :)
Of course, that would be great :)
@@pedroleal758 @skair :)
I really enjoyed this "highlight reel" from the stream! There's always so much content in them, it's nice to have a little condensed version.
Wonderful! that's really helpful to hear actually, glad you liked it.
Thank you. The most under emphasized movement is sprinting. We are designed to do that and without it we would be doomed. We must be able to sprint by the time we wake up or before we fall asleep. Even when in deep meditation we should be able to get up and sprint. And all the beautiful movements that prepare the body to sprint with optimal mechanics, can be used to jump higher and londer or kick harder. Sprinting is a matter of life or death and all humans regadless their practice must be able to do it very well.
Interesting- I might agree with you if I had to pick one movement- but I'll question your view a bit here: if sprinting is so important evolutionarily- why are we so bad at it compared to every other land animal? Even bears can sprint faster than us ;). On a similar note, have you read born to run?
@@BrenVez for humans the most important is a 10k jog
Brilliant session Bren ! I'll be looking forward to the next live-stream !
Thanks Eshaan!
@@BrenVez 😊😊
So glad I found this channel
Keep it up, your channel should grow quickly as you are very easy to understand and have awesome info. Thanks man for your content
Thanks Josh! It is already, and we're just getting started here ;).
Very informative, thank you!
You're welcome Eden!
Interesting stuff!
Thanks Ronald!
Learnt a lot!
Thanks Andreas
Hey, Bren!
I've always been quite active and have tried several different disciplines from very little age. I just recently got interested into movement culture but I don't really have a formal movement practice.
Around 6 years ago I started rock climbing and I got pretty into it, I started competing and improving up to the point of considering giving it a shot "professionaly" (I think the term 'pro' simplifies many aspects of doing a sport), but then I had an accident from which I developed a really accute back pain. I went to see many doctors and PT's and in general they told me that I was just facing a muscular adaptation of some sort. That never actually washed; I felt the pain in a way that I knew was absolutely different to any training related pain.
I decided to take a time off climbing and to try some other things to later come back pain free: I started doing yoga (which made the pain way more manageable but also made me feel good things I had never felt), therapy, I did a Vipassana retreat, etc. I feel quite blessed and different from doing these things now (and I'm sure it was necessary to solve many thing I was only avoiding through climbing), but still, climbing has remained something I'd love to pursue, I tend to dream I'm climbing and I really miss it.
I took an MRI recently and found out I have three disc herniations (L3/L4, L4/L5, L5/S1). Of course I was told I needed to do a surgery right away and that I should consider stopping any form of physical activity other than everyday life. Of course I never even considered dropping out from moving, so I checked out some alternatives and I found ozone therapy could work.
I would like to know what's you're experience with disc herniations and if you could give me some advice in this situation.
Thanks a lot if you've read all this, for real!
Cheers, mate.
Hey Josh! interesting that your doctors told you to "do a surgery right away and that I should consider stopping any form of physical activity other than everyday life"- I think a lot of MD's don't really do much sport/movement themselves (understandable given the amount of pressure they're under), and are therefore both hesitant to recommend it and quick to recommend removing it, despite having some general understanding that the overall literature says physical activity is good for you.
Now, I haven't seen your MRI, but some studies have shown that up to 80% of disk herniations resorb by themselves, and generally they're nowhere near as bad as what they're cracked up to be, especially in the media and the whole 'slipped disk narrative'. I would definitely recommend getting a second opinion. You can look into the clinical athlete network and see if there's anyone registered there near you (it's started by Quinn Henoch, so people there should be pretty good). Additionally if you want help structuring a movement/evidence based rehab program, I'd be happy to help you :). Cheers and best of luck!
Excellent vid Mt thanks for sharing, quick question for u if u get time. In relation to dance being something that's missing from movement training, how did u start with it, and specifically what were the first things you learned about it. I've been working on isolated movements such as waves, teacups, etc for some time and have recently started linking some of these together into some free flowing movement patterns, but I wouldn't call it dance lol any tips would be v much appreciated
Thanks for the video!
I disagree about using "channeling" your thoughts on a specific theme/topic/Issue etc. as a replacement for breath focus. My experience is that it gives different outcomes. Whereas the other is very good at changing perspective and getting insights, the other is good at working concentration, conditioning. And, at a intermediate level, on energy flows in the body, watching the subtle impermanence of tactile sensations and subtle underlying system in this coming and going of sensations. This can be very beneficial in the long run, but in short term it's not that easy to reach deeper transformation (in mye subjective experience) in comparision to more explicit "manifestation" of intentions.
ah yes. I actually agree with you to an extent, which is why I was careful not to say that my version is a replacement- but I do believe it is better, if not much better, overall. They're different exercises for different contexts, and the big disadvantage of my version is actually something you didn't mention- the additional time and energy required for the setup and reflection.
I explained it to a student like this: the Transformational Meditation (my version) is the heavy duty exercise. my version is like going to the gym with a set program, a plan, and doing serious full body exercises with real weight. Whereas the more traditional meditations are like doing some pushups and air squats, or daily activities of living at home. Going to the gym with a program is going to have a much more significant effect, but daily activities of living and being able to do some bodyweight exercises/movement whenever you feel like it is important as well. I practice both forms regularly.
It should also be mentioned though that directing one's thoughts is also not a static attentional exercise, as the distractions (both somatic and sensory) can come just as often as they would when you focus on the breath or any of the more traditional meditation exercises.
I also think the focus on the breath has been overemphasized- not so much in meditation, but absolutely in movement. Those who've watched my intro to movement pt. 3, or are familiar with optimal theory, will also notice that the focus on the breath, the way it's typically described is as an internal attentional focus, which has been repeatedly shown (in movement tasks) to have a negative effect on performance and learning.
Thanks for watching and for your input Mathias!
I started using barefoot shoes a couple of months ago. Besides of my yoga practice (or thanks to) I got to notice that my body was getting tighter and tighter. I was also noticing that my body was getting out of balance more often (in the sense of some areas getting tight, creating uncomforting or hurting feelings). In any case yoga was helping a lot. One day, last week, I decided that was a good moment to make the first small run. I was aware that my achilleas tendon was a bit tight and probably my back leg area muscles were too. The result was I rupture of fibers in the soleus. I would be happy to understand to to transit the adaptation to this kind of shoes and which physical changes they create, because I am feeling a lot of them, but I cannot really transit and be aware of them. And I would also like to know how this adaptation would differ from one person to another (one being a trained person with good body condition, and other with a sedentary lifestyle). How each of them should face such adaptation? Thanks for the help!
For those interested in minimalistic footwear, I can recommend the Czech company Skinners. Their shoes are actually more like socks that you can use outdoors. It's almost like walking barefoot.
first I congratulate bren you explanation is superb and What is the goal in practising the ido portal movement? Example for every martial art has a goal so what's in this
thank you very much dulquar! I replied to your other comment, but for people looking here, Ido's said that the goal is 'to be'. kind of like being fully present in a flow state, but it's also the sort of thing where there isn't really a goal or endpoint, the thing is simply to keep working to improve yourself no matter where you're at.
Thanks bren that’s so helpful. Let’s move more
Hello Bren! I am a personal trainer and BJJ practitioner. I am very fascinated with the world of movement, I think that the body is capable of much more than squat, deadlift, bench etc. How would one apply movement to their own training as well as training for others? I work mostly with fighters and occasionally people coming for aesthetics, however I feel almost wrong trying to help them specifically build muscle or get their summer body because it simply isn't something I believe in. Movement and movement culture, although a lot of progress has been made, it is still considered "out there." I am afraid if I start to apply it to programs then my clients and other trainers will judge it before understanding it. I am also not sure how to program it. My current programming for new fighters is usually about 8 weeks of GPP, 6 weeks of westside barbell conjugate and 2-3 weeks of overcoming isometrics. I was considering using it in the GPP phase and maybe as an accessory movement throughout. I was curious on how to implement it without causing overtraining, I use the typical power lifts in the GPP phase as the main lifts to prepare for the conjugate to get the muscle memory before throwing them into strength training. Obviously stuff like handstands and whatnot require strength, but with people training 4-6 times a week with power or olympic lifts twice a week and other conditioning on top of it, I'm worried of causing over training. Although the body adapts, there is a limit to everything. I'd love to hear your thoughts!
Would you consider indoor bouldering to be good movement practice? Or is it deficient in relation to the lower body by being predominantly based around upper body pulling movements?
I would like to hear you thoughts on parkour. I have heard Ido Portal state that bboy and tricking (street/urban sports similar to parkour) suffer from poor process, lack of structured, knowledgable training.
I've seen very few rock climbers who are overweight or eat enough to gain weight. I think this is a primary reason for low muscle mass in addition to a highly aerobic discipline... If you climb fast and are accumulating lactate you will likely burn out before summit lol. Climbing is a lot of isometric hanging on (especially lower body) so a lot of mechanical stress falls on connective tissue and metabolic stress is mostly aerobic/alactic I'd say
For things movement culture is missing, what about swimming? I've dabbled in water polo and seen some really interesting movements, and haven't seen movement people doing anything in the water yet.
What is the best brand of shoe to buy, and are they important to have tight to foot
Again the best overall by far, and the cheapest, is just using your own feet. but as far as brands I tend to like and wear vivobarefoot the best right now for general movement shoes. The market has expanded since I really looked into these though, and I'm sure there are other good options out there now too. obviously if your feet are slipping inside your foot it's gonna make it hard to do anything very athletic, but at the same time the tighter you make the shoes, the more it can restrict your toes (especially if the toe box is already narrow) and that isn't good for your feet.
Flow Rolling would definitely make the movement culture better
The way you describe rock climbing sounds weird to me. I am no expert, only a very little experience in it, but I am fascinated by it. I don't really see good climbers only relying on griping power and leg endurance.
Yes some are going slow, are stuck or taking their time to learn a new route. But the good climbers I've seen will use timing, momentum, balance and flowing movements from a grip to another, making it as beautiful as a dance.
Hip's placement, grit, structure/posture, efficiency actually reminds me a lot of my jiujutsu practice.
What’s on your right arm?
I think Ido is a purple belt in grappling BJJ.
Not that this is a contest, nor that belts are a good marker for skill in BJJ, but just because it's relevant to my point about the under emphasis: Ido's actually a blue belt in BJJ, and despite being introduced to BJJ through him at Movement camp in 2016, I actually got my blue belt almost a year before he did- because in that culture they don't really train BJJ regularly. Many if not most of Ido's mentorship students are still white belts.
@@BrenVez gotcha, thanks for the clearification!
We are all trying to figure it out. We don’t know all the answers. Crazy right?
Not sure which part this was in reference to, but yes, absolutely :).
@@BrenVez No, I'm just amazed that there's so much to learn. It's nothing about your video persay
What "grapplin" means?
Grappling is like Wrestling. One on one combat with no striking with the stands or feet. 🇧🇷 Jui jitsu is a form of grappling. Look up Dale Brown of Detroit Threat Management. He’s the best grappler of all time.
@@moredatesmorefiber3526 don't do that to him, that's just wrong lol
@@dillonwolcott7655 LMAOOOOOO
Ahahahah omg. sir dates over there is just joking about the Dale brown stuff, but the rest is fairly accurate. I would define grappling simply as fighting without striking- no punches, kicks, elbows, knees, headbutts etc.
This is actually a fairly wide category that includes many different sub-disciplines such as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, all forms of wrestling, and much more. Of these, I believe BJJ is the best for training actual combat/self defense, as evidenced by the early UFC, however these days all of these arts are taking inspiration and moves from each other (to the extent that their rulesets allow). That's why I referred to grappling here rather than BJJ. Additionally, by removing striking from the equation, we take out the most negative part about long term fight training- head impacts and long term brain damage (CTE).
again BJJ in my opinion as being the best example as it's absorbed the most effective moves of many of these other disciplines. For instance, in Judo you can't use the closed guard from BJJ, as despite having functional relevance to a real fight, It would essentially cost you the match in Judo due to the way they score points.
No reason why you can't include dance in locomotion or locomotion in dance ;)
Ahah! But there is! As I mentioned, locomotion is a section of dance, but there are many areas of dance that are NOT locomotion- that's why I gave that wiggly toe dancer example. btw if anyone can find that video please send it to me! Could have sworn I saved it but I can't seem to find it anywhere
Meditation suggestion was a bit misguided. You ignore the role of intuition in problem solving. That's the role of spirituality