14 year old Cavan Sullivan signs w/ Man City but be patient.
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- čas přidán 1. 04. 2024
- 14 year old Cavan Sullivan signs w/ Manchester City but will stay with Philly Union till he turns 18.
We disect the move while saying calma. Let him grow. - Sport
Alphonso Davies would probably be the biggest counter example as he did play a good amount in MLS before going to Europe and might be the best player in Concacaf. With that said, Zach Steffen, Eric Palmer Brown and even Mix Diskerud were signed to Manchester City at one point. How serious are they, or if they just like having a young American on the roster for marketing reasons, is yet to be seen.
Davies is actually good in bayern munich, hes usually a starter before the new manager took over and bench him, hes rumoured to be in Real Madrid next season
This kid has the chance to be an MLS star before he is the age Davies debuted at Vancouver…that is the difference, age.
Great to see him start his career, and stay at Union for the time being. They have a history of trusting, and integrating their youth.
McKenzie, Sullivan, Mcglynn, Trusty and Aaronson x2. This will be good for him, and the concerns of “Going back to mom” won’t be there when he’s playing meaningful professional minutes so young.
We are talking about an American 14 year old from a soccer family up and down. Philly soccer deep roots.
I usually agree with Herc, but he misses the big point. Pulisic and other went over in years past. The MLS keeps advancing. This statement is that MC considers the MLS to be better than those second division teams in Europe where our players used to go to develop. That's a good sign for US soccer, as much as I'm fed up with the MLS and its retirement league attitude.
You damn well, MLS is not better than Englands 1st divisions, those are teams on the cusp of Premier League promotion.
@@justtestingonce ROTFL. The top three teams get promoted, but most have zero chance.
@@davidt3956 duhhhh…. Didn’t think I needed to say that, relegation and promotion is common knowledge. Secondly, the idea that most have zero chance is just you either being naive or really young. From Wolves to Leeds to Wigan to Bolton to Palace to Forrest, over the years we see so many different clubs going up and down. I bet you don’t even know who QPR is.
@@justtestingonce Oh, little boy, do tell, how many of the teams currently in the Championship have made it to the EPL in the last 10 years? More importantly, how many of the ones that made it stayed more than a year. Automatic promotion doesn't mean you're good enough to stay.
As for thinking I don't know who Queens Park Rangers are, I've probably been paying attention to soccer longer than you've been alive.
BTW, you may not know this, but a QPR notable is a regular ESPNFC commentator.
bottom line you think MLS is better than championship level and that shows your naivety and lack of football knowledge. The END.
Sullivan can't go anywhere in Europe until he's 16 because of Europe's "anti-trafficking" rules. He can only go at 16 because he has the ability to get an EU-country passport. (Watch how quickly they change those "child trafficking" rules if MLS ever evolves a word class player development system.) The Sullivan situation is an outlier for North American soccer because although it's not uncommon that teams in Europe want NA players between 16 and 18 but can't get them because of the "anti-trafficking" rules (if the players aren't eligible for an EU-country passport) it's not common that they want to snap up NA players before they are 16. And likely if Sullivan didn't have a German passport Man City wouldn't be making this move for him when he's 14. What the Man City group could have done differently here, but chose not to (or maybe the Sullivans wouldn't agree to it) was to place Cavan with NYCFC, which they own, until he turned 16, instead of allowing him to stay with the Union.
And... I seriously doubt Man City ever had a plan to send Cavan to the Belgian second division at 16. If they expected that to be his level at 16 they'd never have signed him. If that turned out to be his level at 16 they probably would have given up on him by that point. Also, I think we can expect if Cavan develops like Man City hope that they will still be moving him to Europe when he's 16 (but not to second-division Belgium). They don't need to own the club in order to move him somewhere. They can send him out on loan.
Player of the U15 championship has to mean something!
Nooooo!!! He has to be on the Copa America roster!!!
If he was that good they would have moved him and his parents to Europe
He doesnt have a euro passport does he? If not then he cant go until 18 anyway, no choice but to leave him here
He has a german passport
@@chestnut4702 welp there goes that! Well yeah then it is cool they trust to keep him here. Maybe depending on his acceleratiom he could move over early to belgium/germany??
That’s only England. He can play in Spain, France, Germany, Belgium, Portugal, Italy, most Americans go the German route. This is why British clubs lose out on a lot of South American talent, Ronaldhino went to France and Ronaldo R9 went to Holland.
What about the rumors man city will be relegated? This might not be good if that's true.
Nothing to worry about there, the bogus allegations will be thrown out.
@@robertmclellan3658 even worse...Pep has mentioned he is more likely to leave than stay. Contract ends 2025 so I think he might have jumped the gun.
@@jonjohnson422 Don’t talk nonsense, Pep loved it today and you watch him extend his contract next season. 4-in-a-row.
@@robertmclellan3658 via ESPN
Man City boss Guardiola 'tired,' next season could be last
@@robertmclellan3658 yup I was right Pep is done after next season. Cavan jumped the gun on Man City.
Jersey bird
Stop hyping kids before they play 1st team football at 16
That'll never happen. Happens in all sports all over the world.
"finish development here"? MLS can't develop players, we don't have the coaches. Should go to Dortmund if he can get a passport. City plan to send him to Belgium--he can do that on his own. Why would you need City to arrange a loan there? Wiki says "He is of German descent through his mother." ???
American players getting more bad advise, just like Gio, CP, Horvath. At 16 he can sign in Germany, assuming he gets the German passport via his mother. Why waste 2 more years in the US?
@@r2dad282Chris Richards, Tyler Adams, Tim Ream, Gio Reyna, Weston Mckennie, Ricardo Pepi, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, and Tim Howard all beg to differ.
Just because MLS isn’t a top pro league, doesn’t mean it’s not a great development league.
@@r2dad282gio spent his developmental years in MLS he just didn’t make his senior debut
@@Phogadacbiet Funny enough, just recently they did a ratings for all clubs/leagues and MLS ranked in the top 10. Yes above Saudi and above Liga MX.
@@505Vermontyou can very quickly spot people without a clue. Beyond USMNT players, MLS developed: Davies, Almiron, Duran, Castellanos, and Buchanan of recent.
Don’t worry , boys ! He grew up around Fishtowners in Philly ! If you can play there , you can play anywhere. He’s being groomed just fine for Europe and anywhere on Earth, Don’t sweat it !