That's the reason hes starting to do the 2 games. If he records for too long and gets too many stomps (pekin moment) he puts 2 to make more full videos. That's just my guess at least idk
@7:40 you should always try to Flash Auto Q instead of Flash Q Auto as Q has much longer range than your AA, which can reach the Veigar even if he flashes (ye I play a lot of Teemo, don't judge)
Pretty sure the reason you take Liandry's over Ludens is not for the raw damage, it's because the DoT of his ult refreshes the burn on every tick. So it's not really about having a high AP ratio on his ult, it's the fact that you get an extended duration of % hp damage from liandrys/demonic burn if anyone steps on the shrooms. Sure you might get two procs of ludens but it's not as consistent. As a buff, I think I'd like to see him get a conditional range increase on his autos. Something like "You have more attack range vs blinded/poisoned enemies". It would suit his scout thematic too.
I like this idea, but it would be an incredibly strong buff. Even just for blinded enemies. It would also probably kill off shroom builds, and the focus would be on Nashor's builds. Either way people will find an excuse to complain about teemo.
With Liandrys in mid you have to commit to other burn items as well to do good dmg over time also the main source of dmg becomes the shrooms and the enemies will try to counter it with pinks and sweepers that costs them gold and vision control but for that to be a benefit your team needs to capitalize on it. In higher elo full ap is solo build and the burn one is a somewhat team oriented .
Just make Teeto the same as what he is in Wild Rift. E and Passive are swapped, he gets poison damage with levels and he can stealth with E kinda like Twitch. His W is now kinda like Vayne's Q + move speed after the roll. Way more in line with his scout fantasy and more fun to play
pekin mentioned he damage tested tho, and the max hp damage doesnt stack so youre only getting like 2 extra seconds of pretty low max hp damage. im guessing the pen and pop from ludens is just genuinely more damage most of the time
It's more than fine that you compile several vids into one tbh. It makes it more exciting as you really have no clue how the games will go (unless you check timestamps ofc) Also it gives a realistic insight into high elo gaming. I love it very much so!!
Thanks for the content PekinWoof. Love how you calmly and clearly explain what’s going through your head and commentate without letting ego takeover. You and KingStix are the only ones I enjoy watching because I gain valuable tips from your style of commentary. Keep it up man! Your content is much appreciated!
hey Pekin, I think you should worry less about stomps and ff's being "bad games" for content. few reasons I say that: we're mostly watching for how you do and cool plays you make and your reaction/insight to them, and those can happen in any game, regardless of outcome. also, if it's commenters who write complaints about it, from the standpoint of video interaction metrics, ANY comments are "good" comments. besides, it's pretty dope when you stitch a couple of games together in the same video actually. I for one always enjoy seeing a specific build or champ played multiple times and not just once because things change with every matchup, every combination of early game events, every team comp, etc. Just food for thought. Sweet vids!
Hey Pekin, love the double videos if you have a short game. Idk if you wanted to test it or if it was coincidence, but now that we had it two ways around imo i think having the shorter game second is better. First game to show off a good quality game and the second one showing a stomp
i dont think his R should get an ap buff with how much he synergizes with burn. 55% and it still ends up oneshotting you lategame. (As long as you aren't a tank in 2023, right?) HOWEVER, a Q range buff or maybe an R throw range buff would help him in mid.
just wanna say i love your commentaries -- it's so helpful how you explain your win condition and game knowledge as you play without screaming or toxicity. thank you pekin!
I love the two vids in one format, makes for a nice satisfying watch especially since we get two see two different lane matchups and game states overall
Honestly these are very interesting perspectives from someone that doesn’t play a lot of teemo.. I don’t think I want a buff on my Teemo mushrooms.. Of course it would be great fun… but I don’t think they are weak at all… It’s like a shaco box. You don’t need a box to kill someone by itself. That’s not its job. ❤️ If each mushroom had more than a 50% ratio… think about how much damage you potentially have on the map at once…
Full AP relies mostly on Q damage instead of R. Its pretty much why most high elo Teemos (like Yung Fappy, Manco, ect) build Nashor's into Riftmaker for Teemo to have consistent damage in fights. But then we have ipav who, for whatever reason, goes full tank.
I loooooove that there's more then one game in one vid cuz I watch these in bed trying to fall asleep like podcasts cuz ur so chill and I always prefer long videos to fall asleep to and they're hard to find
They probably made the Teemo shroom like that because it would auto kill someone if they stepped on it. Different gameplay, but still effective. Add glacial augment and you're a faster Ashe who shoots further and faster after the shroom's popped.
Liandry's is for tanks and Ludens is for squishies. Liandry's damage is extended out for teemo due to his poison on E as well. Still, Riot needs to rework Teemo's W at the very least. They gave Vayne a boost to her speed since there are sooo many mobile champs created in the game after her that her ult/passive for movement was basically crap. Vayne was given short range as an auto attack because her speed boosts were meant for her to catch up to people. Teemo is basically the same. He has short range and a speed boost to make up for the lack of range. It falls short in the current game though. He needs a bigger boost, or dash, or something on that W like breaking slows/CC or something.
Teemo scaling is fine, shrooms as a trap have decent base damage. And they are not spammable abilities like syndra q. Traps have a different purpose, because you can make a minefield around objectives and chokepoints. Which is plenty, giving more damage to those traps is ridiculous imagine getting one shot by a random Shroom. What they could implement; is instant detonate when holding R when you throw it but remove the slow and DoT plus maybe increase the damage of that R version. That way Teemo can choose how to use the ultimate; like a grenate or like a landmine.
I played teemo mid in 5v5s with friends yesterday and it actually feels so strong. Funny you should post this because I was thinking about spamming it in ranked c:
i really apprectiate the multiple game setup-- getting longer games is hard but I am sure there are many people that appreciate 30+ minute videos in any format, multiple games or a single slugfest
More AP ratio on Teemo shrooms sounds like the worst idea. I already lose 1/3 to 1/2 my health from just running into an invisible trap on the way to do something else, I really don’t need to lose more. I mean, if you wanted to like halve the shroom damage if Teemo isn’t near them, sure…
teemo shrooms are invisible and set-upabble as u said the slow is already kinda strong by itself... buffing ap ratio so u lose 50% hp cause u stepped into an invis shroom in a random bush is not the best idea imo
Really loving this 2 games per video format. Hope it stays that way, having 15min stomps and enemy team ff is getting old
That's the reason hes starting to do the 2 games. If he records for too long and gets too many stomps (pekin moment) he puts 2 to make more full videos. That's just my guess at least idk
i wouldn't say is getting old, but i prefer having two great videos instead of one
Yepp - CZcams's monetization algorithm shifted more toward watch-time. It's a win for viewers for sure.
Hey everybody welcome to the next commentary. Today we are playing teemo midlane... I stunned myself
Oh that darius pull was soo gigantic.
Oh we double warded.
Dude if I got one auto attack on riven
@@Vorteqzm I could have gotten another assist
So yeah we're gonna be playing teemo mid lane
@7:40 you should always try to Flash Auto Q instead of Flash Q Auto as Q has much longer range than your AA, which can reach the Veigar even if he flashes (ye I play a lot of Teemo, don't judge)
Pretty sure the reason you take Liandry's over Ludens is not for the raw damage, it's because the DoT of his ult refreshes the burn on every tick. So it's not really about having a high AP ratio on his ult, it's the fact that you get an extended duration of % hp damage from liandrys/demonic burn if anyone steps on the shrooms. Sure you might get two procs of ludens but it's not as consistent.
As a buff, I think I'd like to see him get a conditional range increase on his autos. Something like "You have more attack range vs blinded/poisoned enemies". It would suit his scout thematic too.
I like this idea, but it would be an incredibly strong buff. Even just for blinded enemies. It would also probably kill off shroom builds, and the focus would be on Nashor's builds. Either way people will find an excuse to complain about teemo.
With Liandrys in mid you have to commit to other burn items as well to do good dmg over time also the main source of dmg becomes the shrooms and the enemies will try to counter it with pinks and sweepers that costs them gold and vision control but for that to be a benefit your team needs to capitalize on it. In higher elo full ap is solo build and the burn one is a somewhat team oriented .
Just make Teeto the same as what he is in Wild Rift.
E and Passive are swapped, he gets poison damage with levels and he can stealth with E kinda like Twitch.
His W is now kinda like Vayne's Q + move speed after the roll.
Way more in line with his scout fantasy and more fun to play
I think they should tone down the MS on W and give it like 50-100 bonus range, similar to Kog'Maw
pekin mentioned he damage tested tho, and the max hp damage doesnt stack so youre only getting like 2 extra seconds of pretty low max hp damage. im guessing the pen and pop from ludens is just genuinely more damage most of the time
It's more than fine that you compile several vids into one tbh. It makes it more exciting as you really have no clue how the games will go (unless you check timestamps ofc) Also it gives a realistic insight into high elo gaming. I love it very much so!!
i love the 2 games please do this for the 15 min stomps, more pekin is more happiness
"am i getting pentakill?! What is happening?" - typical teemo gameplay
Pekin playing Teemo is always a treat
Thanks for the content PekinWoof. Love how you calmly and clearly explain what’s going through your head and commentate without letting ego takeover. You and KingStix are the only ones I enjoy watching because I gain valuable tips from your style of commentary. Keep it up man! Your content is much appreciated!
12:31 "I'm coming?...over... you." Yeah, someone's gonna make that joke 😅😂
hey Pekin, I think you should worry less about stomps and ff's being "bad games" for content. few reasons I say that: we're mostly watching for how you do and cool plays you make and your reaction/insight to them, and those can happen in any game, regardless of outcome. also, if it's commenters who write complaints about it, from the standpoint of video interaction metrics, ANY comments are "good" comments. besides, it's pretty dope when you stitch a couple of games together in the same video actually. I for one always enjoy seeing a specific build or champ played multiple times and not just once because things change with every matchup, every combination of early game events, every team comp, etc.
Just food for thought. Sweet vids!
Hey Pekin, love the double videos if you have a short game. Idk if you wanted to test it or if it was coincidence, but now that we had it two ways around imo i think having the shorter game second is better. First game to show off a good quality game and the second one showing a stomp
I order it by entertainment value tbh
i dont think his R should get an ap buff with how much he synergizes with burn. 55% and it still ends up oneshotting you lategame. (As long as you aren't a tank in 2023, right?) HOWEVER, a Q range buff or maybe an R throw range buff would help him in mid.
just wanna say i love your commentaries -- it's so helpful how you explain your win condition and game knowledge as you play without screaming or toxicity. thank you pekin!
I love the two vids in one format, makes for a nice satisfying watch especially since we get two see two different lane matchups and game states overall
Pekin dont worry about the short and stompy games, we love them
Did Pekin play Skarner mid? No.
Lose Streak: 509
Unexpected 50min long Teeto video is always welcomed, Pekin.
"they are excited about me being teemo" when u get spam pinged was fucking hilarious
I personally called your Teemo playstyle is Amongus gaming
Honestly these are very interesting perspectives from someone that doesn’t play a lot of teemo..
I don’t think I want a buff on my Teemo mushrooms..
Of course it would be great fun… but I don’t think they are weak at all…
It’s like a shaco box. You don’t need a box to kill someone by itself. That’s not its job. ❤️
If each mushroom had more than a 50% ratio… think about how much damage you potentially have on the map at once…
Full AP relies mostly on Q damage instead of R. Its pretty much why most high elo Teemos (like Yung Fappy, Manco, ect) build Nashor's into Riftmaker for Teemo to have consistent damage in fights.
But then we have ipav who, for whatever reason, goes full tank.
Holy jesus, 50 minutes of pekin? Am I dreaming?
Pekin: "Buff shrooms, they are weak!"
TC Zwaq: "Lmao, shrooms go quadra kill"
When you finally play Taliyah for me I expect this level of research. Love the content ❤️
Play Tali in high elo and explain why I'm hard stuck as an otp?
Least toxic ezreal lol
@@SkarM_x he said on stream how she gets super useless when behind
I loooooove that there's more then one game in one vid cuz I watch these in bed trying to fall asleep like podcasts cuz ur so chill and I always prefer long videos to fall asleep to and they're hard to find
“I’ve seen a teemo build laundries before…”
😂 dude it’s like the most common item on teemo
They probably made the Teemo shroom like that because it would auto kill someone if they stepped on it. Different gameplay, but still effective.
Add glacial augment and you're a faster Ashe who shoots further and faster after the shroom's popped.
Liandry's is for tanks and Ludens is for squishies. Liandry's damage is extended out for teemo due to his poison on E as well. Still, Riot needs to rework Teemo's W at the very least. They gave Vayne a boost to her speed since there are sooo many mobile champs created in the game after her that her ult/passive for movement was basically crap. Vayne was given short range as an auto attack because her speed boosts were meant for her to catch up to people. Teemo is basically the same. He has short range and a speed boost to make up for the lack of range. It falls short in the current game though. He needs a bigger boost, or dash, or something on that W like breaking slows/CC or something.
Around 29 min, if you'd bought Ludens immediately when you died it would have applied when they stepped on the shroom and Kat would have died.
34:43 nice ezreal ultimate hahaha
that play at 3:40 . hahahaaa sneeeaky sneeeeakyyyyyy . hehe
Teemo scaling is fine, shrooms as a trap have decent base damage. And they are not spammable abilities like syndra q.
Traps have a different purpose, because you can make a minefield around objectives and chokepoints. Which is plenty, giving more damage to those traps is ridiculous imagine getting one shot by a random Shroom.
What they could implement; is instant detonate when holding R when you throw it but remove the slow and DoT plus maybe increase the damage of that R version. That way Teemo can choose how to use the ultimate; like a grenate or like a landmine.
WOAH! YOU DID THIS FOR ME DIDNT YOU!
Hopefully with this commentary you will learn how to play Teemo better and how to int less 😏
Been waiting to see another Teemo vid. My favorite main.
Tell me you touch kids without telling me you touch kids.
I like how you stop mid sentence every time your doggo barks 😂
that thresh made so many game winning plays jfc
the hooks in the last fight had me creamin actually
I'm really liking this new double game video set up
I played teemo mid in 5v5s with friends yesterday and it actually feels so strong. Funny you should post this because I was thinking about spamming it in ranked c:
what did we do to deserve two games in one video? :')
34:45 ezreal playing 50 futures ahead of us rn
i really apprectiate the multiple game setup-- getting longer games is hard but I am sure there are many people that appreciate 30+ minute videos in any format, multiple games or a single slugfest
Teems and Dark Harvest? I love both these things.
i dont usually stun my self...but when i do...i do it spectacularly !!
ever thought of doing post game commentary where you explain as much decisions as possible ? much love :DDD
Thanks for the double comback content.
At 18:40 when the Darius ganked, he was visible for a moment on the map and maybe you could have run toward top before he flashed.
An interesting buff would be i guess +10 ap ratio by ult level maybe
Simple man i see teemo i upvote
I really don't mind the "2 games per video" format. That way, short games with some decent moments are not wasted effort.
great video pekin, i've never really played teemo but i can see why people have fun playing him lol
The Katarina, is not even her shunpo, it's because sundered heals even if the user is blinded, I don't know about the damage tho.
28:44 Udyr fcked it up. He made Kat back off and not step on shroom
Pekin went from playing one toxic rodent to another toxic rodent 😁
3:39 Teemo just possessed him 😢
I will always upvote teemo vids
Another 2x Game video - We're getting spoiled recently! xD
- Yay!
That thresh was a monster
I love how you never yell at Mini
The buff i see on teemo
2 charges on Q, but it is now a skillshot
Ap ratio up on e and on R
PEKIN uploaded a 51 min. video? Let's SEE how many people CAME in their PANTS
3:39 is literally teemo's laugh
I always enjoy watching your videos!
thank you pekin, very enjoyable
i love that ur playing teemo
Awesome video mr woof
This was way too fun to watch.
I love watching your Masters videos, but I have to ask, how much did you pay these paid actors? j/k Seriously fun Teemo play, thanks!
Thank you for streaming tonight
there's a few north American teemo mains I thought the teems hate had already stopped
"Teemo's AP ratio should be buffed in his ultima..."
*Leaves the video*
Where's the dude who's always asking for teemo mid? Wasn't he up to like 300+ videos in a row?
I like Teemo mid we all like Teemo mid !
2 games is awesome! Thanks
13:34 you’re what?!?!?
Bro both times he called the ganks so impressive lol
WE LOVE TEEMOWOOF 💕💕
Im digging the two videos per
That first game was insane
i love the 2 games thanks for the content
I get mad love for choosing teemo
Fappy would be proud
There used to be a huge synergy between leandry and Teemo's shrooms. Still might be the case.
That Kat and Ez were absolutely smurfing ngl.
Yeah By the way On hit affects still proc on teemo blind.... So friora Q, ez Q Irelia Q all those things apply on hit still go through the Q
it's funny how teemo was hated so much and now he's kit is pretty much just garbage :(
I hate how you don't place the shrooms before basing. Feels like a waste
You forgot about the burn is % max hp, second game it would be better.
fappy writhing in pain watching you play full ap teemo
i think that udyr is the Gwen one trick, I assume gwen got banned XD
I absolutely love teemo.
Runes at 6:42
All hail the algorithm!
More AP ratio on Teemo shrooms sounds like the worst idea. I already lose 1/3 to 1/2 my health from just running into an invisible trap on the way to do something else, I really don’t need to lose more.
I mean, if you wanted to like halve the shroom damage if Teemo isn’t near them, sure…
teemo shrooms are invisible and set-upabble as u said the slow is already kinda strong by itself... buffing ap ratio so u lose 50% hp cause u stepped into an invis shroom in a random bush is not the best idea imo
yeah i play sup , and select mid as my second role. its sucks.
Not sure how 8/7/17 equates carrying ... but, hey, its teemo.
Pekin out here talking about EUW Teemo main while not even given a shoutout to THE Manco1???
Would love for my shrooms to actually be useful in a world of Force of nature
Teemo is my ban every game,, i refuse to play against him after a traumatic experience vs a teemo top laner lmao