Starfield (Zero Punctuation)
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My poor malnourished ass cant wait to see it next week ❤👍
another perfect review, but maybe the scope is being broad and very "light" 😬
meh! at least you not screaming about "pronounce"
I like this game but maybe next time
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Getting recruited to be an undercover cop because of a horrible crime you have no idea you committed sounds like the plot of a Mr. Bean movie. Honestly sounds hilarious
Was about to say that sounds like a very good plot for a game or movie.
You are off mining, peaceful life, everything planned out, when suddenly FBI agents come out of the blue, tell you do this or we sentence you to this crime you totally committed. Then you proceed with the story, find your impersonator, proof your innocense. But will you end up a law abiding citizen by the end, or, havingving tasted the abyss, decided to stay there? Both ends are corrupt anyway right (wrongful encarceration vs actual crime)?
I felt like it sounded an awful lot like a Jacques McKeown novel plot in thia context, ironically enough.
For me it was stealing a beertini that did it. Play it your way!
I actually had the same exact experience. So I reloaded a save and discovered I had picked up an illegal drug whale looting a pirate base, and security noticed it when I entered New Atlantis.
Hilarious, the first thing the military wanted me to do was deliver some of the same drugs to a known pirate associate. Which actually made scenes.
When I told my roommate about how I stole a ship from some pirates and then that mission started when I was caught with their contraband, he asked me if that was the main quest. He was quite surprised when I told him that no, it was just some random side quest I was forced into.
The only thing funnier than the "Starfield and Friends" gag was how bloody pleased with himself Yahtzee was.
And the payoff in the outro with the "hates Mondays" gag.
@@SimuLordOh damn, thank you. I didn't catch that the first go.
@@SimuLord Along with James A. Starfield and Andrew Starfield, two people whose last names are ALSO Garfield. :P
He’s doing puns with Sans.
Hearing his smug giggling over a Garfield joke made my day a little better. Every following Garfield was extra butter on my toast.
the fact that Yahtzee apparently became a criminal so bad that even the police won't tell him is like peak british comedy for a skit of a show or game.
Terry Gilliam, Brazil (1985)
ok
@@2fast2war Franz Kafka, The Trial, (1914)
I love the Trial, and it's closer to the scenario, but decidedly *not* a British comedy.
That being said though, as much as Kafka seems downright unsettling, he apparently used to read his stories aloud to friends who would find them seriously funny
ok
I tried to throw a kids' football into a nearby goal. The brat started crying, 10 seconds later I was arrested and abducted by the police who hired me after telling me what an aweful criminal I am.. What a game.
Loooool. Hahaha.
And then you went home and played Starfield.
Same! The soccer game in the Well?
Let me guess, holding E to grab the object?
Counts as stealing in Starfield, the kid thought u took his ball and the police retailated XD
Clear handball
I got recruited for that undercover mission because I picked up some kid's soccer ball. I didn't even put it in my inventory, I just picked it up and threw it in the net... Probably the most consequential hand-ball in the sports history
Yeah, picking up owned items counts as stealing so you can't just carry them out of view and pick them up. Of course, there are ways around it, but at least it isn't trivial.
@@Shyl1ghtme needing a bottle of booze from the mayors office walking in with a whole ladder so I can bash it down the hall where I can freely pick it up
It's because using your hands to throw a soccer ball into a net instead of kicking it in is against the rules, so of course you were branded a criminal.
"No hand-ball, criminal scum!"
I got recruited because the pirate ship I stole had contraband I didn't notice was there. The game really wants to recruit you to go undercover against Crimson Sun doesn't it...
To this day, I'm still convinced Yatzee makes his intro and outro songs 1% louder each video
No
Yes
I agree. They are so much louder than the rest of the video.
Also I'm convinced on some video he makes it slower or faster.
Sigh... I remember the good ol' days when it had different, thoughtful intro and outro songs, that subtlety referenced the game.
I understand why he had to stop when he got big and they didn't want to deal with paying for licensing popular recognizable music.
But damn those intros and outros were so clever. And short enough and transforming enough that I think he had/has a good case for free fair use.
Ah well
If Starfield doors guy and destiny walls guy teamed up there’d be no end to the architectural wonders they would create
Now there’s one hell of a callback.
Now we need 3 more games that have a guy for the floor, ceiling and windows
@@Ryann9 Ceilings and floors are simply tired walls; one dreams of depression, and one dreams of hope.
zzz
Steve? Minecraft. Thats just Steve? with mods.
Funniest thing that I ran into was accidentally picking up a single dart in a bar, my companion instantly murdering a bar patron cause they aggroed, then suddenly hating me for murder even though she was the one who shot the guy.
Bethesda are the masters of the immersion-breaking sim.
@@stevethepocketthats the thing though it's not a sim.
@@YOGI-kb9tg All of Bethesda's games are in a meta-genre known as "immersive sims".
@@stevethepocket that's a stretch if I have ever heard one, they are action RPGs you get immersed but they are not a sim game. The way they play is completely different from any other sim game. Saying Bethesda games are sim games is like saying cyberpunk is a sim or the Witcher series are sim games. You can get immersed in all these games but they are not Sims and have never been, starfield is not a space SIM like no man sky or elite dangerous they are completely different.
@@YOGI-kb9tg Dude, it's just a name. No one's saying it's the same genre as SimCity, any more than people are saying fireflies are made of real fire. Google it if you think I'm making it up.
It's utterly insane that this game's janky design spontaneously generated the plot of The Trial. I don't think any studio other than Bethesda could inadvertently turn their game into a Kafka novel.
Holy shit, dude.
Wow.
pls explain
Emergent storytelling!
@@erickschusterdeoliveira2662"the trial" is a short story about a guy getting charged with a crime, but never being told what the crime is (as well as being sent to trial but never being told where the trial is to be held).
It's a real 'monkeys typed out shakespear' moment.
The enraged "COULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT I KNOBBING WELL DID ?!" was the biggest laugh I got from a ZP episode in a while. And I'm going through all of them in order right now because I need background noise.
yahtzee is great for background noise especially if youre playing a mindless game. yahtzee 1 anime 0
I felt that in my soul, as I also have NO IDEA WHAT I KNOBBING WELL DID!!
I intend to work ‘knobbing well’ into my vocabulary as soon as possible
"COULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT I KNOBBING WELL DID ?!"
Me: You bought a Bethesda game. That company's spotty track record alone should've been the biggest tip-off.
Probably picked up some contraband somewhere without realising it. That's how I got booked 😅
This is one of your best reads in a while.
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It's like taking a handful of ingredients that in theory would make for a great cake, but then you spread it atom thin over a football field.
And you ask the player to stick their tongue out and go throughout the entire field to "enjoy the great cake they made"
They really did put a lot of love into doors 😂 There is a designer at Bethesda who is really really proud of the doors and I am happy for him. BRAVO DOOR GUY!
He played Resident Evil 1 as a kid and it awoke something in him.
Must have transferred from valve
Definitely is at least one "Doorguy" they've had around for some time. Anyone else remember both Mechanists having those comically over-layered and over-animated doors for both of their bases?
Khan Doorman is pleased
When the Bethesda door guy and the Bethesda lock picking guy get together is when the real magic happens.
"Bet that was a gruelling brainstorming session" absolutely killed me
0:58 yeah I watched a friend play some of it and when he wanted to hand in items for a quest he had to go through a really slow airlock. I asked him whether a lot of exterior doors are like this and he said "yeah..." in quite a world-weary tone that explained how Bethesda can claim so many hours of content to experience
You should see how fucking long it takes to sit down or stand up from the pilot's seat on a ship. Or even a regular chair.
Gotta love how Yahtzee describes the in-game scenes in an infinitely more interesting and charming way than they actually are.
The power of a large vocabulary, having a British accent, and having met THE Monty Python when he was still alive.
TBH he’s was right about visiting the first temple and I did literally jump through hoops to get my first power
I remember the crime I did for thst recruitment. I accidentally pushed an item from a shelf onto the ground and in my attempt to put it back, it counted as stealing. I was exactly the criminal mastermind they needed.
😆☠️👻
"- Apologies, I'm so sorry!"
"- Now that's the type of renegade criminal mind that we need for our undercover operation!"
That's how to steal the whiskey from the Martian governor. Push it onto the ground with a book you pick up in the office. Then roll it out the door and round the corner so you pick it up out of sight.
...what kind of criminal were they looking for, a housecat?
Ill be squiky clean harder, aint no one recruiting me
I feel like "getting recruited to be the hero (undercover agent) because of a crime you committed but don't know about" is the plot of every modern TES game as well, so at least they're writing what they know.
True that, they could have even made it the opening and people wouldn't have been surprised.
I mean, it IS the plot of every TES game. You are a nobody who got put in a prison, and now gods, fate or some bloke decided that you need to save the world
"Hey, you. You're finally awake."
"Damn you Free Stars, the Starfield was fine until you came along. UC was nice and lazy. If they hadn't been looking for you, I could've stolen that ship and been halfway to Fammerhell."
IMO Morrowind is still undefeated as the "modern" Bethesda RPG with the best framing for why you should play it the way you're meant to. Yes you're an agent sent to undermine the local faith in service of the empire but also part of doing that job is ingratiating yourself with local factions and getting a reputation and all that so like, go nuts on the side content if you want.
The funniest thing I know about the game is how the enemies shoot for center mass so you can make an invincible ship by building strangely so that there's nothing AT center mass.
That.....sounds like genius ship design actually.
@@alexanerose4820 Makes star wars-ey asymmetrical builds really good.
So, a ship with a big ring for the main part of the body, then? So they shoot right through it. Easy mode activate.
Love the Gummi Ship vibes
@@alexanerose4820Yeah. Enemies will always aim for the center of your ship. So if you make a ring, they'll always miss. Just normal Bethesda stuff.
It’s such a joy to have someone express cleverly something that you feel but don’t know how to put into words!!
Ok, I had the BEST 'I didn't do a crime', crime. But I did and now I'm an international Pirate spy...
I used the interact button to pick up a football, not into my inventory but just hold it in the air, and put it in a goal..
Within second I was swarmed with guards for my 14 dollar bounty and blackbagged as a villain perfect for Pirate life.
I nearly died laughing at it 😂😂😂😂😂
Was the bounty for theft, or just handball?
This almost makes me want to buy the game LMAO
@@chriswest6988 depends on what football I suppose. The proper one or the American one 😅
"Okay men, they're going for the football."
"Kill on sight?"
"Hold... They're... MANIPULATING it somehow..."
"Sir? You don't mean-"
"IT'S IN THE GOAL! OBJECTIVE CHANGE, BAG AND ACQUIRE BOYS"
I ended up with a 15k bounty on my head that I had no idea about.
"More ammo types than a vending machine at a Texan middle school" fucking hell I love ZP
10/10 joke
Love how the highest tier ammo is potatoes, like you've spent the morning in the garage with your dad/older brother making a spud gun.
This describes exactly what I imagined the game to be with only the knowledge that it was a space game made by Bethesda.
This is what happens when companies play it so safe, your brain dies while playing it. No creativity, no risks anymore. Meh.
Same here
Ikr? I dunno why so many people were convinced it would be an actual good game
Standard Bethesda design - breadth of an ocean; depth of a puddle
I didn't get hyped for Starfield, I was just hoping it'd be competent and polished but had no expectations. Might buy it in the future.
I'll never forget accidentally picking up a terrabrew cup and then getting kidnapped by the cops
For me it was accidentally picking up some slightly questionable vaguely damp papers in the bottom of a cave on Mars. And then getting immediately boarded and kidnapped by UC sysdef upon return to Alpha Centauri.
Same, when I first started I picked up a picture frame inside the security booth didn’t know it was owned. Security said to surrender and I did because I was a level 1 with a pea shooter. Then the whole cutscene played.
Okay. This video actually taught me something. I signed up voluntarily for the undercover mission. I didn't know you could be forcefully recruited by being an unwitting criminal.
I got caught smuggling :D
There's a lot of that kind of stuff, joining factions or certain actions can give you new dialogue choices, at first I was disappointed how you might have "persuade" and "attack" options to most situations, but then I realized that a lot of those situations have at least one factional or trait based response that makes the choice easier (or sometimes harder if you don't realize that telling the pirate you're trying to calm down that you're "UC Vanguard" basically forces you into a fight)
@@theblahhhman2614I too was arrested for smuggling. Upon save-scumming pre-arrest, I spent 10 minutes trying to locate the contraband: on my person, in my ship storage, in the captain's locker before shaking down the 4-5 people on board.
I have been wondering whether the undercover stuff was an alternate storyline to being a member of Dora The Explorer guild.
@@SteveJBDid you walk away with a landed pirate ship to keep yourself? They often have a briefcase of contraband laying around somewhere. Though because all the garbage littering the ship is "in cargo" it should have showed up in the ship inventory too.
I shot someone in the face, which seemed to upset some people. The police scolded me then I got sent to talk to the leader of the space police. He asked me to help him out with the space pirates. I suggested he could go to hell, and I got sent to prison. The lady tagging along didn't care for prison, but whatever. After a while a pirate gave me an invite to be a space pirate for being a cool guy and sticking it to the police. Fun times
That shit-eating giggle at the self-indulgent pun right out the gate is exactly why I love ZP.
yup
it's why he's been consistently funny for so long
The fact it came back right at the end was the cherry on top.
I had to rewind to listen to that fucking giggle again 😂
That was such a Dad Joke, but I loved the payoff at the end.
Glad I'm not the only one. I just knew he was waiting for that one the millisecond he heard the name Starfield
I've literally never heard of this channel before. I came to watch a video after LTT talked about the recent events at the Escapist. Holy crap I've been missing out. This is gold.
Will miss him. Had fun watching these on and off over the years. GL in your new adventure.
Fully Ramblomatic is basically the same as ZP.
"The game is really boring" - finally a game that lives up to the shown trailers, gameplay and overall marketing materials.
Finally a good CZcams comment
I like starfield, I think the depth of mechanics is pretty interesting, but the game turns its nose up at so many good main quest lines that other games would absolutely kill for.
The best one so far is the mantis quest. You discover the hideout of the mantis and take up her mantle, becoming a bounty hunter that strikes fear in the hearts of criminals across the starfield.
@pattyofurniture3609 Even now, it sounds uninteresting.
So literally just bountyhunting? Like in any other RPG game ever? Are the bounties at least interesting like - have moral grounds, try to talk you out of it, bribe you like in Red dead 2?
I doubt that @@Novice_Maker
OK, I genuinely laughed at the "Starfield and friends" gag.
0:13
Me too.
I laughed WAY too hard
it was so immature
and it made me laugh so hard 😂
That fake somewhat pervy laugh at the end was what got me.
I know I will look like a complete dumbass but... I don't get it. Is it supposed to be a modding joke?
I punched a cleaning robot and that was enough to get recruited for an undercover mission of ultra importance
they sent a guy with 'special orders' to meet with the higher ups immediately, so immediately that he barrelled through the door having seen the commotion and grabbed the first guy he saw committing a crime of any sort, like he'd been waiting for someone to do even the slightest infraction for weeks now
The names of every faction are also very first draft, the Freestar Collective (get it cause they are the stars that collectively love freedom). But i will say the "Bioware face" Yahtzee always talks about was waaaaaaaaaaay more obvious than any Bioware title i've ever played. Bioware characters move, twitch, raise eyebrows and at least attempt to emote through their engine. Starfield's npc all move like haunted animatronics.
Also "terrormorph". They just took Xenomorph and added "terror". Every name of every thing in the game is so fucking lazy.
CRIMSON FLEET - BECAUSE THEY KILL PEOPLE AND BLOOD IS CRIMSON
I am still playing mostly because I hate myself.
Come on crimson fleet is a dope name for pirates and you know it
@@LOLDEMOS It's both very dope sounding AND astoundingly brain-dead simple, just like the names of most things. New colony in the middle of a lake? new atlantis. colony with neon signs? neon. colonies that united to form together? united colonies. the free colonies? freestar collective. Like holy shit he's right they literally took zero time to name every proper noun in the game
There’s a power called “sense star stuff”, if that’s not a missed placeholder then nothing is
This is what happens when your engine is older than the universe and doesn't support mocap
That little giggle Yahtzee has when he makes his "Starfield and Friends" joke will live rent free in my head forever
I remember when "live rent free in my head" was fresh and kind of funny.
Its funny to me now because i dont spend so much time in the comments that i become numb to to it.
Between that and "...because Starfield hates Mondays" at the end... brilliant.
We're ready to party, we're ready! I hope you bring lots of... sandwiches...
i nearly did a bloody spit take when I got it, it was so funny
Cannot wait for the Extra Punctuation about how Starfield should have had 10 hand crafted planets instead of 1,000,000 procedurally generated ones
I personally love huge procedurally generated worlds, but it has to have a point to it, mostly for immersive exploration. but what is the point of having a billion planets if all they are is a flat plane with a fixed landing spot you load through a starmap ?
I'd love to see one about the main story if he decides to finish it. The first half of the main quest is admittedly bland, but it gets really good after a decision point.
@@danilooliveira6580I wish I could go to a non-habited planet and set up a shop or something and get some travellers visiting. Let me have Vasco outposted as a clerk selling alien milk or something.
honestly this game would've been great if they'd gone that route. i mean if they wanted to throw in some procedurally generated ones as well fine, but what bethesda does best imo is making you want to explore around and just check out whatever that next location is coming up on your compass. Im enjoying starfield overall but it's their weakest (non-76) game imo because they've removed the primary thing most people seem to agree they do great. A game with 5-10 planets that are all like 1/4 the size of skyrim's map alongside another 50-100 procedurally generated ones to make the universe feel like a big space adventure would've been incredible imo. Granted it took them 8 years to make this so maybe that was too much to ask, maybe now that they've got the tech down if/when there's a starfield 2 they'll do something like that
@@danilooliveira6580 It feels like we're flying the Planet Express Ship. It never flies anywhere, the universe moves around it.
Yahtzee's laugh at his own Garfield joke is a masterpiece in and of itself. Bravo.
This is probably the most I've ever just completely agreed with everything in a ZP review.
The "could someone please explain what I knobbing well did" bit absolutely destroyed me
Such a perfect read for that line too
Frankly the police won't tell you what your crime is until you get to court. Assuming it's anything worse than a traffic ticket. So you would get abducted by the police first then put into a cell before you figure out what you did, assuming the police didn't straight up lie to you about your charges. Which they absolutely will do if they think you're a murderer.
I gotta admit, Yahtzee describing the beginning of the plot made me realize I'd actually be down for a game where you play as aristocrat explorers in space bumbling through alien worlds and cultures in search of adventure and something exotic to hang on their walls. That sounds like a game that'd have things like... charm and personality.
The closest thing I can think of is Sunless Skies, a game about being a captain of a space ship/train in a cosmic horror version of space being colonized by the British Empire.
@@genuineculter5640 Doing it for the Queen, but "The Queen" is an Eldritch Being who swallows men's souls. (Just like the real one.)
@@genuineculter5640 (Which, I feel it's worth mentioning, is a sequel of sorts to Sunless Sea, which was itself a sequel/companion to the extremely charming and personality-filled browser game Fallen London. You could get lost exploring the worldbuilding and lore there for days, weeks... _months_ even, if you really wanted to. Good shit. Highly recommend.)
Sounds like an interesting mod. Starfield: Big Game Hunters
Eh then you probably should checking out Owlcat studio new game in (the making) - Rogue Trader
It gives me the same vibe as movies that were written by directors/producers that have experienced lots of scenes, and are pretty sure they know what a movie looks like
RIP the escapist.. We hardly knew ye
I mean, I never expected it to be anything but what Yahtzee said. But then again, I possess this super power where, if I focus really hard, I can remember things that have already happened.
Right? No game with that much hype behind it has ever lived up to said hype, and I wish people could remember that instead tying their whole identities to believing a game is the best thing ever.
Using vision-inducing alien artifacts for cheap, unregulated highs will now be stuck in my head forever, making me giggle at inappropriate times. Thanks, Yahtzee.
There's a Warhammer 40k book in the Ravenor trilogy about pieces of shattered glass that spent thousands of years in the Warp soaking in nightmares and they're sold as a hallucinogen on the streets. I love ideas like that.
@@leebard9335you also forgot the Emperor's has his own psychic energy formed into shards laying about the galaxy that can be used for both, stabbing people like the Emperor and killing them or again...getting high which the Eldar like doing.
I've been playing it for about 20 hours now, and though I keep coming back to it because I want to get what's good out of it, I agree that so much of it is just plain boring.
On the good side, some of the characters (including those on the main quest) are genuinely deep and interesting. The major cities are varied and beautifully detailed. The ships are amazing on the inside and the ability to design your own ship is quite rewarding. The skins and other textures are amazing, including the faces (minus the god-awful hair textures) and the clothing. The lock picking mini game which finally takes a new and interesting spin on lock picking with a puzzle that's both challenging and fairly quick to solve without getting screwed over by random chance.
On the meh side is the gun play which is marred by enemies that can't shoot, enemies that have a million hit points, a cover system that is inconsistent and too subtle, and guns that all kind of feel the same. The facial animations which show so much potential in little details and then suddenly fall flat by missing basic key behaviours that any artist or animator would know about. The main story line that both has some very interesting characters/dialog/missions/puzzles/lore, while simultaneously having some extremely boring and banal characters/dialog/missions/puzzle/lore. And of course, the UI. At once both subtle and intrusive; clean and indiscernible. Some parts work really well, but then several other parts are missing or difficult to read or use. Inventory management is a pain. XP and level up banners pop up in your face obscuring your view mid-fight. Basic information like your weight and encumbrance are buried deep in menus while ambient air temperature and pressure is given a dedicated place in the UI that's pointed out by the tutorial!
On the awful side are the planets that are just never ending jungles of bumpy terrain, a few flora/fauna, and the same six random encounters. The quest system whereby you are often not given enough information to find people or places, but are instead given quest markers directly in your face, including a path that lights up on the ground telling you exactly where to walk. The map system that looks fancy but hides all of the important data. You don't have any kind of a meaningful map while in a city - not even the info terminals dotted around the city will actually show you a map! The local maps are this weird dotted landscape with no landmarks, only fast travel markers. The star maps don't show you any relevant details until you zoom into each planet one at a time, and you can't even get a list of known places and the landmarks they have - you need to navigate to each planet in each system one at a time to be reminded of what was there. The crafting system that has way too many random items, most of which are useless but every now and then are essential, and require pumping most of your skill points into skills that let you make customizations to your items that aren't even as good as the ones you'll already have on randomly dropped items. The food items that give you 5 health on your 200 point health bar, to the point that you would need to carry 40kg of food just to heal up after one fight. The vendors whose limited cash-on-hand prevents you from actually unloading all the crap you pick up, and makes absolutely no sense in a world of universal communication and digital currency. Your followers who will run blindly into combat the second you aggro someone, despite you intentionally staying hidden and sneaking. The "space powers" you unlock with the main quest, that are literally force word powers from Skyrim, only without the shouting, and many of them don't provide any tangible benefit. The horribly unoptimized engine that requires a brand new video card to be half-ways playable, while simultaneously having horribly low-res textures in some stand-out places (esp. hair). The control scheme that screams, "This is a port of a console game to PC so controllers come first and keyboard and mouse are an afterthought". The "stolen" item system where items are marked stolen regardless of whether or not anyone is aware that you have stolen them - including generic, every day items like prepackaged foods and ammunition - which largely undermines the purpose of trying to steal in the first place. The "bounty" system where you will be hunted by half the galaxy until you can find a quiet place to find one of the ubiquitous terminals that allow you to pay off your bounty - including the ones stationed in the very same cities that would arrest you for having a bounty (so you can't pay your bounty, unless you can sneak past the guards to access the machine they gave you to pay off your bounty?!).
But perhaps worst of all is how it's all so reminiscent of Skyrim in all the best and worst ways. It shows such possibility and brilliance, just like some of the grand and imaginative things in Skyrim, while still managing to be as broken and janky as Skyrim was. It follows such a similar story line, just this time it's in space. It has all the same promise while still failing in all the same ways. Except it's 20 years later and they should have this shit figured out by now.
It's disappointing specifically because this would have been impressive 20 years ago, but everyone else has gotten better at this while Bethesda is just stuck where they are.
I don’t have anything to add but I read the whole thing. It was compelling.
The observatory joke might be your best one so far Yahtzee.
Giant expansive games filled with busywork and nothing are the worst trend in gaming rn. Give us more Disco Elysium's. That game encompassed a few blocks of a city but the sheer amount of interactions, memorable dialogue, depth of characters made it feel more full and memorable than any Bethesda game since perhaps Morrowind
Somehow this is better than every assassin's creed game in the last 15 years though. I'm loving it and has loads of storytelling thats very deep
I agree, I don’t know why Bethesda has been going in this direction of stressing the length of their game while filling it with mediocre meaningless content and the most generic enemies.
People don’t care about the size of games anymore, it’s an outdated metric, give people depth
@@courier6960The thing is, this game isn't really even that big, I mean _not really_ .There are a few small towns that pretend that they're cities, and sure there are line "1000" planets or something, but genuinely no one is missing anything if you just stick to the main planets and the dozen the missions ask you to go to. When you take that into account, and the fast travelling, you'll find you walked less than like a quarter of Skyrim's longest road over the course of a single playthrough of Starfield. It's still pretty boring, but it's only as big as you make it.
@@courier6960unfortunately that’s not remotely true. People absolutely expect and demand huge open worlds that have hundreds of hours of content.
@@courier6960 it's Bethesda. It's better than some of their games for sure and above mediocre in story if you like their games. Which of them do you like previously?
The funny thing is that quest to infiltrate the criminal organization is probably the best quest in the game. What I've realized about starfield is that it does a horrible job of directing you to its most interesting parts. None of the main story makes you deal with any of the factions in any meaningful way. The moment I knew they really fucked up was when I joined the United Colonies which is basically the space government. Completely optional btw and the introduction of the mission explains all the important historical moments since humans left earth. It's actually kind of interesting and makes the world make a lot more sense but none of it is touched on in the main story. While you will get an offer to join the UC during the main story the game doesn't explain that there are literally no downsides to it so the average player will be hesitant to join BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW TWO SHITS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE FACTION OR THE WORLD WHICH THEY WOULD LEARN ABOUT IF THEY ACTUALLY JOINED THE FACTION.
Yeah I've had quite a few people steer clear of the UC Vanguard because "I'm not joining the cops"
Their lack of experience with the factions requires a little bit more of a bat over the head to get them to understand what is what.
I think that is the whole point. At that time, if you have Sam as your companion, he will tell you that all of those things UC said are propaganda. And semi-spoiler: the first time you play the game blindly, it will have a greater impact on your NG+ because now you know everything and which path you should actually take for yourself. And yes, NG+ is canon.
@DraconicA5 I'm on new game plus and no you don't know which path to take because once again the main story hardly teaches you anything about the lore of the world except at the very end and even then it's not something that matters to the rest of the people in that world. Things like learning about the colony war, the terramorph attacks, the house of Vaarun. That's all things that you could learn about in a quick summary when you join the UC but it's completely optional and since you don't ever learn a thing about the UC in the main story you aren't incentived to join. I haven't finished all the side content but I assume the propaganda part is obviously how UC portrays themselves as the good guys against Freestar but that's pretty obvious. Even if they're posing themselves as the good guys you still get learn about the war, how there were fucking mechs, about certain treaties that all make the world make way more sense but starfield does a terrible job of leading you towards this content.
I think the problem is Elder Scrolls. They do the same thing there to one extent or another in every game. Those games take place in a setting where history is... I'll say unreliable. Everyone has been lying for so long noone knows the facts and some godlike beings probably deleted a few sections for unknown reasons. Oh, and there's a civilization of super wizards somewhere that seem to mess with things just for giggles sometimes. Everything is in this chaotic jumble of what may have happened and what may be true by design. We aren't supposed to trust the world of Elder Scrolls. Bethesda keeps designing every game off that template, but Fallout and Starfield are not Tamriel. They've clearly understood settings. There's no sense of getting a look at the secret way the world works with every faction, even if it's just a god was bored so did a thing. So why explore them. We know what the factions are.
@@gilsercrow3590 I mean, you have a more clear vision and can be who you want to roleplay in NG+. You can also do as many NG+ as you want. There is also a secret NG+, but I don't want to spoil much here. If you already understand how NG+ works, then you can google it for yourself without much spoiler.
I got the prision recruitment scene after I had to stole something from a pirate warlord, which counted as a crime somehow, and the police arrested me in a city that was under siege with bodies and debris all over the place.
That felt weird.
Man, you'd think that the cops would have better things to do.
The vocalisation gags are top notch in this episode, it must be said. The snigger at the opening gag in particular was excellent. 10/10.
The only 10/10 that starfield will be associated with
@@MilanousMediabut ign said it was a masterpiece lol
I second this
@Archermit they still gave it a 7/10
@@ThatWolfArrow and for ign that means it's utter trash
My big immersion breaker was the "All that Money Can Buy" quest, where we had to buy a stolen artifact. Everything went well & smooth when suddenly I'm told I have to decide the fate of the guy I bought the artifact from for no adequate reason.
Mine was also that quest, but because I had the Kid Stuff perk and had noticed that my parents were AT the nightclub. By itself, that's a fun encounter, but the fact that this same nightclub is suddenly where I get a bounty by a big corpo guy that I have to out-maneuver, and they DON'T mess with my parents, take them hostage, threaten, acknowledge them.... and the parents have nothing to say other than "you caught us having fun. Ahaha."
..... missed opportunity.
Being hired as an undercover cop for a horrific crime you have no idea what you did is like the plot of a movie. That sounds really fun
I hope you don't think it was fun in the game.
The crime was probably the same as for most people who commented here. Picking some random object up that isn't recognizably owned by another person, then putting it back, since it's useless. Will get defined as theft by the game and get you into prison.
Frequent examples were:
- tossing a kid's soccer ball into a goal
- holding someone else's cup for a short moment
- picking up soggy paper
That type of horrible crime.
The build a base animation at the end was just icing on the hilarious cake
Shoutouts to the whole half-dozen of us that got ‘the littlest hobo’ reference. You don’t get much more hyper obscure than that. I now feel sad and old.
But surely every step you take, you make a new friend?
Absolute stone-cold classic theme song.
4:42 - The greatest line Kafka never wrote.
I have about 20h in Starfield. This review is spot on and absolute definitive review for the game... I'm currently slogging my way through the main quests and desperately waiting for the game to begin.
Play the UC vanguard questline, it feels like the real main quest.
@@ColCaffranis that a side faction or is it the real and only UC questline? I joined them thinking it was a side faction and wouldn't take long to beat. I'm suppose to be a Freestar.
I’ve got about 5 hours… people describe it as skyrim in space or fallout in space… but I don’t feel *any* drive to care about these characters or their factions. None of the procedurally generated areas I’ve seen come anywhere near even the most boring locations in skyrim and oblivion. Sure they might be prettier than the most boring locations in those games, but skyrim/oblivion locations will have like 5 things to do within a 30 second walk of that location and at least one of them will be interesting for either geographic, lore, or quest reasons.
And what’s with every shop I’ve seen so far be in these giant giant buildings but are actually rooms smaller than the buildings in skyrim? This game seriously feels like a step down from everything bethesda has actually done in the past (never played 76 so idk about that one)
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That's a scary description. I find it very hard to imagine anything more boring than Oblivion side quests. Skyrim at least had better dungeon designs.
I got a bounty of 54 credits out of nowhere. 54 credits. I went to pay it off and the same thing happened. Recruited to go undercover among pirates over a parking ticket. Insane.
The really frustrating thing about scope issues is that "open exploration" CAN BE A FOCUS! Like you can have a metric ton of worlds, procedurally generated or not, and traveling around can be the point! Shoot you can build a story around it! But it seems like all these Big Space Games can't figure out that you dont need to do everything to still qualify as a Big Space Game.
Outer wilds
Starsector my beloved
@@Pacemaker_fgc based starsector enjoyer. i was just starting to tire of mount and blade when i discovered it and it made me so genuinely happy.
Wild Starsector Mentions!!!!
Yeah, imagine if you could just go exploring and... find stuff. Nice views, unexpected encounters, strange anomalies... whatever the imagination can come up with (which, sadly, in a Triple-A cubicle slave farm... is not much).
Exploration is awesome, it just requires there to be _things to discover._ And for it to feel organic. Harder than it sounds, I'm sure, but also extremely enjoyable when done right, so arguably worth going for!
Haven’t even played Starfield but he’s right about the doors. I’m dead serious when I say they’re an astonishing achievement in doors
They should have called it Stardoor.
door fortress
I dont get why their innovation is in door variety and not improving their dogshit inventory UI
Someone high up at bethesda animation departments has a door fetish because this is not a new trend. It started all the way back in Fallout 3.
Doorfield
Funnily enough Starfield is what got me to check out No Man's Sky again, and holy crap I'm hooked! It even has functional VR!
No Man's Sky has come a long way since its bumpy release. It's actually an engaging and interesting game now, not the tedious grindathon it used to be.
@@Markus_Andrewhuh I found it boring lol at least I had it on gamepass 😢
Yep, I watched a few streams of starfield and immediately redownloaded no man's sky and am so enjoying all the new content
@@pinstripeowl Same. There's tons more you can do now compared to how it was at release.
@@Markus_Andrew It only took 8 years of post-release patching to get there too.
I came to see the corpse of a channel.
i love how earnestly he keeps doing garfield jokes on this game, i haven't seen anyone do it somehow so it's good to see someone take the chance for once when it actaully makes sense
A side of dad jokes with the usually snark
My Skyrim character was an orange Kajit named "G'har Felid." I felt very clever.
@@MadMadNomad you deserve a gold medal for that one
That "Starfield and Friends" joke has me laughing more than it should
Craziest thing about this review is Yahtzee making a reference to The Littlest Hobo. I didn't know anyone outside of Canada knew about that show.
Apparently it showed on reruns all the time in the UK and every Brit I know of a certain age knows it.
And every time I'm reminded that Brits maybe know it better than Canadians I am baffled
I think for me it was the fact that it was a disjointed, disconnected mess of tiles. Skyrim, you could wander it all and see sights in the distance. This game is about 10x the size and feels like im crawling through cardboard boxes taped together.
Perfectly said.
4:42 This is the part of The Count of Monte Cristo where Dantes is pounding on the cell door begging the jailers to tell him what his crime was.
That whole ''I suddenly had a bounty on my head for something I didn't know and my crewmate got mad about it'' happened to me and holy shit did it piss me off
How long did it take you to graduate from the couch back to bedroom privileges, anon?
4:41 That's the most emotional I've ever heard Yahtzee's voice get - honestly pretty solid voice acting work there
"More types of ammo than a vending machine in a Texan middle school" is one of your greats Yahtzee
I see Yahtzee found himself in the plot The Trail where everyone tells him he committed an awful crime, but they never tell him what he did.
Ah, “The Trail”, the book written by Kafka’s lesser known brother.
@@scionofdorn9101 It's the prequal.
@@scionofdorn9101 Catka, who also hates mondays
"Getting kidnapped by the space police to infiltrate the space pirates" sounds like the sci-fi version of a Flashman novel.
You nailed how I feel about this game.
Litteraly every point you made is exactly how I feel. The space flight element feels tracked on, that's not to say it doesn't work but it does not feel like triple A quality dog fighting or anything like it.
The only point I would ad is that it's one redeeming quality is that it's interior spaces even by Bethesda standards are pretty fantastic.
We will miss you Yahtzee 😢
He'll be on "Second wind" in case you haven't heard of that.
My guess is he took over a pirate space ship and then tried to fly it to a system that scanned his ship and found the contraband that's always on them. Easy to miss.
If it was anything like what happened with me, he saw a faction dishing it out with some pirates, then decided to help but accidently shot the faction's ships while aiming at the pirates.
If that were the case though, he'd know exactly what he did because the game isn't subtle about it.
first time you get contraband there’s a big popup warning you about the dangers… very hard to miss that one. Thereafter you do need to be careful.
Then again, I got scanned and challenged out at The Den by a crooked UC ship… he wanted me to pay an “instant fine” so I shot him down… no consequences either
@@j.j.maverick9252 it warns me every time that I'll fail the scan when I enter the system
ZP has now peaked with a Garfield & Friends reference
"It had to come out on Friday because Starfield hates Mondays"
I can't lie; I laughed.
0:51 I just finally watched Murder Drones a few days ago & never would've expected to hear such an accidentally accurate description of one of the characters in it.
0:29 “Arrow, knee, etc” that reference really made me crack up😂
I know he isn't recommending the game, but Yahtzee is kind of selling me on experiencing a scifi retelling of Kafka's _The Trial_
It certainly does that: I once shot a pirate who was shooting at me, and my companions went bananas over it, despite not caring for his legion of dead friends scattered around the ship. Stealing from pirates who's faction I had joined was fine, though; shooting another pirate faction's ship was not, until it started shooting at me.
It's like learning the bizarre rules of the Fae.
@@bubbasbigblast8563 My companion, who was literally a smuggler, gives me shit every time I take a healthpack. She's supposed to be the morally grey one! WTF?
Also the yapping from Sarah makes it feel very realistic
We have a sand planet, an Ice planet, a mountain planet and a Jungle Planet to explore. Earth has all of that, so maybe finish what you're eating before you start planning your next meal.
I was legit very impressed with the door variety in this game. The intro made me question what kind of a person I am 😐
As another fellow who was also genuinely impressed with the immense variety in what is normally the most boring design choice of architecture in games, I'm also questioning my personality after that intro :|
Agreed 100% on best doors in gaming.
This game would be way more immersive if you could actually take off and land, dock, and fly from planet to planet in the system.
I am not talking full space Sim too, I am okay with fast travel for say major hubs.
Imagine swinging by a moon, scanning it, spotting a POI, charting a course to land, spotting it as you got closer, and then actually putting your ship near it.
This would make it actually feel like a space game rather than a menu Sim.
Sorry, this is a door appreciation post, all other comments will be ignored.
I absolutely love the MST3K reference. I grew up watching so many episodes of that show.
I used to watch it too loved manos the hand of fate episode it was a classic
Watching this after watching the twitch channel showing mst3k
An immaculate review and yet the laugh at the start of the video is still one of the best parts. Love you, Yahtz.
More than anything I'm surprised that there's somebody outside of Canada that knows The Littlest Hobo enough to reference it in a review like this. Thank you, Yahtzee.
Apparently reruns played all the time in the UK and every Brit I know of a certain age knows it, and it's utterly baffling
Ill go ahead and sort this one into "Bland 5" then. 🍀
I just now realized how many times i have just stared at door mechanisms feeling little dopamine hit with each little part moving. I love intricate mechanical things.
Door squad, yep!
I don't like doors in my own outpost, but when traveling, even when in rush, I go the "damn, that's a nice door!"
Might explain the 100+ hours of enjoyment in this supposedly boring game.
Also, Yahtzee being a typical reviewer - there is a *crimes* tab in stats. But facts don't give video a views like complaining does, I guess.
@@mercai I am actually kind of surprised by Yahtzee's take.
Tbh there are problems with the game that seem... bizarrely overlooked. I accidentally made an enemy out of the Freestar because I got mixed up in a large dogfight and grazed their ship. Normally in BGS titles it's a slight annoyance if you do that, and "yielding" functions as an apology, but once a grazed their ship I couldn't "yield" or "hail" them to say "Sorry, didn't realize you where not the enemy since a ship was behind you putting the marker above your head"
Fortunately I had a save to fall back on, but I have encountered a couple things like that under normal gameplay that for all the QA they did I am surprised to see, but nothing that has totally ruined my experience.
I had this exact same issue. The game starts out like you loaded your save in the middle of a quest, super boring, and had that same thing where apparently i had a bounty and was forced into that space pirate quest.
the laugh at the start got me, love it Yahtzee
People made fun of skyrim for being too quick to throw you in the middle of a dragon attack, getting an immediate audience with the local jarl and then immediately being crowned the second coming of Dragon Jesus, destined to save the world.
They took things slower (or at least as slow as you can with a Bethedsa game) and now people complain that the start of this game is too boring.
You can't stop me from calling it Starfield and Friends just because you did it!
I am so glad I came back to the escapist to watch some ZP. I had been using youtube recommendations for so long.
Always so happy to hear a Garfield and Friends reference.
Yea, the whole "accidentally commit a crime without even noticing, get kidnapped and roped into infiltrating pirates" thing happened to me as well and it kind of ruined it.
It happened to everyyone who touched a glass, took a sip of a drink or anything else minor
I think we've found are no. 1 contender for the bland list king this year
Doubt it. It’s clear he remembers some things within the game.
i should hope so, it's been like a week. we'll see after a few months if he can name a single planet@@stevenchoza6391
Maybe it will get the coveted third blandest spot...
@@Indigosneasel27
Again, I think he remembers too much for that.
but will he come December? :P @@stevenchoza6391
"snot in their beard" is a horrific image & you're the only person who could present that to me & get the response "oh yeah that's some tasty Yahtzee vibes"
Haha, I love his last joke right before the outro.
You touch the alien doodad and have a cosmic vision?
That’s literally how Mass Effect starts.
Yes but they did it better cause of the different aliens race you have in your crew and talk to 😊
More people should be commenting on that, it’s a straight copy of that
@@socratese5I didn't see this comment so I said the same thing just now. It's like a cliff notes version of ME and it makes zero sense
I really wish people would stop ripping this off. Star Trek Picard did it, too. Touching a magic artifact and seeing visions is a fantasy trope, for crying out loud. Stop putting it in your space stories just because ONE popular game did it.
Your comment should be pinned, I thought the same, it was just the Mass Effect plot but with a shitty story, characters and gameplay
On the other hand, I would love it if I was kidnapped for a secret mission because of a crime I couldn't remember. That sounds like the start of a game on its own
Genuinely the side plot missions are much more entertaining than the main one
This is called Morrowind and it was their best game so far.
Yahtzee's just salty because it's a reference to the elder scrolls 6 he's impatiently waiting on.
Oblivion?
At least in Skyrim you know you were arrested for trying to cross the border. Then the woman in charge of executing the prisoners just decides to have your head cut off as well because she can't think of what else to do with you.
I've put about 40 hours into this game and though something was a little off... This ZP summed it up perfectly!
0:13 in and lad already dropped a gag about one of my favourite childhood book series lmao
Man, I used to grab every collection of strip books they had at the library, such great reads for a peanut sized mind ^_^
Fun Fact, "Garfield and Friends" was actually the saturday morning cartoon (the strip is just "Garfield").
Figured that one out shortly after commenting lol
On that note, show was good, books were better XD
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