The Cummins ISX15 IMAP & BAP Sensors - Two Sensors That Can Cause Engine Derate & Cost You Thousands
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2020
- Welcome to our channel! In today's video, Ryan is analyzing the problem on the truck derating issue happened a few times. And finally he found the issue and share with everyone the solution.
Kenworth Truck - The Cummins ISX15 IMAP & BAP Sensors - Two Sensors That Can Cause Engine Derate & Cost You Thousands.
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When you can get this kind of insight and explanation, it is priceless. Some folk will say, “get to the point”. I say, details are important. Keep being detailed; I love it!
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Then you hit the transcript below the description.
Definitely 💯
Hey Ryan, really appreciate all of your videos. I got the OTR performance tool about 4 months ago, as insurance in case my truck went into derate.
Well it finally happened, Truck randomly would tell me it was going to derate in 4 hours but would go away within a hour so I didn't have to use the tool. This week it came on and actually clocked down to 1 hour even after shutting down for the night. I used the tool and it cleared but about 15 miles down the road it came back on and was at 1 hour derate. I made it to a truck stop and talked to the shop. They said all they could do was hook up the machine but wouldn't be able to do any actual work for 3 days. I hooked the tool up and it didn't clear so i was at a loss and couldn't go anywhere, at that point I was in full derate. An hour later the shop told me to come in. I started the truck and started to drive over and the derate disappeared. They hooked up and found nothing. Charged me 80 bucks.
So i hit the road , 15 minutes later 1 hour derate popped up. I hooked the tool up and come to find out, the derate doesn't disappear until you start the engine, that wasn't in the instructions. I guess I got lucky the 1st time. Needless to say i had to plan my stops every hour to clear it until I delivered my load and got to a truckstop near a peterbilt store. Bought the IMAP and BAP sensors, replaced them and so far 400 miles later all is good.
I dare say the OTR performance tool paid for itself a couple times already!
Thanks for all your insight dude!
Thanks for sharing your experience. I have heard many good feedbacks from owner operators! Please keep in mind, clear the code doesn’t mean the issue will resolve itself. It is just an insurance that you don’t need to pay the toll bill instead to fixing it yourself and your choice of shop. Good luck!
Welcome to our channel, hope this video can be a help if you are experiencing the similar issue on your truck. make sure to watch to whole video to get the whole story and how to fix the issue. If you haven't subscribe, consider to subscribe for more good videos. Thanks again for your support.
Can you do that in any kind of truck?like freightliner,cause this happened to me since last week i still at the shop changing me so much much, they already changed the dpf filter and truck still in derated just don’t know what to do know, before they changed the nox sensor nothing was working
excellent and very informative video Ryan
Thanks - great information.
Thank you for all the help and incredible information! So helpful! I’m a fan!
Ryan , you give solid detailed insights into not so obvious solutions. Thanks.
Ryan, your so helpful this video was useful to me and another friend on his truck although my kw is a 17 most everything is the same since they made upgrades to your truck. I had a Def sensor replaced actually 2 times due to a bad one from factory 6 months ago sure enough here comes the Derate again and again but no codes very frustrating. I’m giving this a try to see how it goes. I’ll keep watching and learning from you. Thx for your Knowledge and Mechanical abilities very helpful.
Well I'll be darned, I'm stopping by kw or cummins and picking some of those up. Thanks bud
Your knowledge is so helpful Thanks so much.
Enjoy and Thanks For Sharing!
Glad you finally got that fixed
Jim Murdock thanks!!
I have the same motor thanks for the info 👍
Man this is good info, I learn something every time I watch your videos
Glad to hear that!
Thanks Ryan; great info--will be changing these on my ISX15; any similar insights on the MX13 PACCAR? I hit like and became a subscriber...very thankful for your time and insights.
Super informative! Thx! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching!
Recently had to change the IMAP myself. Took 5 mins. 👊🏻💪🏻
Very good point!
Thanks for sharing!
You are welcome!
So that phone overheating need a new thermostat or a fan clutch ? 😂.
Good videos 👍👍
Amazing illustration
thanks for sharing information.
Thanks for your advice 👍
You are welcome!!
Hey Ryan thank you for the video. Was very helpful. Could only find the manifold air temperature pressure sensor. Installed it first then a week later install DBAP censored, that cleared the problem right up. 24 hours later the engine light went off. As soon as I installed the second sensor, Truck ran fine, but light didn’t go off till a day later.
So it goes off after replacing the sensor? I'm asking because I just replaced mine and I'm thinking to take it to the shop to get the code clear or just wait at least 24 hrs
Thank you
Thanks for sharing a wealth of knowledge. I also never knew that the engine is dependent on the barometric temperature sensor . Learned something knew today!!!!
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very helpful thanks.
You are welcome!
I’ve got the 870 and when I go to ND in the winter I get derate..
I need to change it and see if there a different.
Your awesome 👌 👏 thank you for your time and knowledge 💯🙏🙏🙏
You are welcome!
Awesome 👌
Thanks 🤗
I just changed both of those plus the DEF pressure sensor & my check engine light is still on. I did a regine after changing the DEF & it didn't clear. Changed the other two now truck won't do a regine. Is there another way I can clear code without PDI?
Are these sensors for the engine derate code on the dash?
Very helpful video thanks. Can you tell me where i can buy that (PDI) monitor screen system that you have on your dash?
You can find it from the website pdidiesel.com/products/performance-tuner
I just replaced mine since I got a check engine light spn-102 "Engine intake manifold #1 pressure" no loss of power ,engine running smooth and no air leak or restrictions on my air filter,my question will be do I have to clear the code manually thru a computer or will get clear by itself????
Thank you you just fixed my truck
You are welcome
I was just getting ready to buy a Turbo
I have a 2015kw with a Cummins isx I woke up and saw fault code 3490 dpf purge air actuator? Any insight
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With a mind like yours you need to train diesel technicians all over the United States. Because if the computer don't tell them the problem they don't know
Hey Ryan I just came across your video here and am having the same problem and some so I changed the bap sensor and attempted to change the imap but couldn’t get it out so I left it in now my truck won’t turn over! If you could offer any insight I’d greatly appreciate thx
I sprayed that sensor one time did the same derate next day. Now I clean the soot off with a toothbrush. But I agree better to just replace it
OMG I am at the 4-minute Mark and so far if I counted right I have been told eight stories about wow I'm telling a story that explains why I'm explaining why I'm explaining what I'm telling when I'm explaining what I'm explaining why I'm telling bro thank you for trying but I can't take it no more.
What diagnostic tools do you have to clear the codes and read the codes I am looking into buying a Cummins iSx 15 and want to be more informed him on what I need to prepare myself to be self-reliant and not have to rely on the shop to diagnose and replace parts that are Bolt ins
Try to watch this video that I shared a while ago about the Bosch tool. czcams.com/video/eIFpb6JjXIw/video.html
so my isx currently giving me fits, 5psi low on boost, power loss, mpg loss, and egts wont get hot enough to clean my dpf filter while doing a regen!! could this just be the same 2 sensors?
Man, you’re best Hope you live in Ohio you have my business
Great video brother
Hello I have a 2016 KW with a PACCAR MX13 and its giving me a SPN-5745 Aftertreatment 1 Diesel Exhaust Fluid Dosing Unit 1 Heater code
can you help or any suggestions. Thanks
Ryan good imfo 387 Pete 2010 cruse and engine brakes don’t work just what could cause that. Please let me know.
Let's throw a turbo on it! I got a good laugh out of that.
Have you had fuel rail pressure issues with your Trk?
I had to replace mine it’s just breaks down my engine code if can recall was reading on the dash that a I had an injector fail.
Is there a way to wrap those sensors when having a engine wash to protect them?
I apologize for the delay to answer your question. I don’t have a a good way to wrap those sensors yet.
You can and should use dielectric grease on all connections. It will keep water and crud out
PLEASE DO NOT WASH HOT engine. Had an exhaust pipe crack on the weld. It's cold water on a hot skillet. It cracks. Took months to find, aside from being sick all the time! They thought I was nuts until it was found!
Hi do have any ideas bypass pacer derate 5 mil hours
What is pdi?
I'm looking to buy a truck in the up coming months but I debating on a Cummins isx 15 (international prostar)
Or DD15(freightliner 125) do dd15 last longer then isx 15 can you point me in the right direction
Hey brother hope you're having a blessed weekend, I'm very interested in following up on your comment since in that position right now. What did you end up going with and how's it going on the road?
I’m picking up a ‘17 Prostar with the Cummins ISX next week.
They both honestly suck with aftertreatment. Dd15 has known wiring harness and ECM issues. Fuel system is also prone to leaks, broken filter modules, coolant leaks in fuel cooler, etc. Cummins isx 15 requires constant ECM updates and sensors are known to randomly fail. Def module tends to leak,, DEF combo temp level and quality sensor fails every 6 months to a year. DEF tank heater is fragile and the control valve is known for sticking open and overheating sensor.. Cummins is cheaper in the long long maintenance wise but both engines require a competent technician and a quality scan tool to keep down time to an absolute minimum.
Would this sensor being bad cause low or no boost?
387 2010 Pete ABS stayed on how do I fix it
Your videos help out alot... I have a code for Exhaust Gas Pressure Sensor Spn 1209 Fmi2.... then i got this code Spn3510 Fmi 4. Would a bad sensor create this problem of derate?
Yes
my truck x-15 with 500,00 miles still run fine.
Thank you for the great information, very much appreciated as an op my self. Please direct me to where you can get that PDI computer thank you sir .🙋♂️🫡
Thank alot for all information o been watching most ur videos
Can please tell me about code SPN 3720 fmi 15 cummins isx
sir cummins qsm 11 engine, the foot gas pedal doesn't work but the engine runs at high rpm, what's the problem.??
Have you found out any information on high rpms and no pedal
Hello i am trying to find out where's place i can buy for your kind pdi device for my truck could please help where i can buy it in Dallas, TX
Hi Mehari, Here is a link to the PDI I have from Amazon. Hope it helps. amzn.to/3ckGefC
What's the best diagnostics tool for Paccar mx13 other than Davie4?
OTR performance diagnostic tool as far as I know. Check it out here- Bosch HDS250, OTR Performance, and BIG BOSS PDI Tuner - Which Scanning Tool is Best For You?
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What year is this ISX15
I was losing 13000 psi in 30 sec u shouldn't lose more than 2100 make sure u get the seating ring seal also when you change the valve and banjo seals for fuel line remove engine lifting bracket its 4 bolts and makes it way easier there are videos on how to do test on CZcams u have to read the readings in data monitor when u do the test watch the videos. It cost me about $400 total in parts and did it in about 1 hour hardest part was removing sealing press washer from inside fuel rail with flat head screwdriver don't see any videos showing them even mentioning the press sealing ring and banjos
Indio is no joke for heat.
How many miles does your truck have
710,000 miles
I replaced the nox sensor inlet/outlet/modules, scr inlet/outlet, dpf inlet/outlet/dock, dpf temp module, ammonia sensor & it's still derating
Do you have any update?
OMG.
My dpf light comes on and off. Can someone help me shed light on this situation?
do you have any codes?
@@truckingandfixing yes I do it has alot of spn numbers from my otr tool. Can we email and chat? I did look them up the only thing I couldn't get my hands on is a inlet nox.
Sure! Foxfamily2011818@gmail.com
What was the fault code ?
Low intake manifold pressure
Word of advice, when you climbing and road, indo, donner pass, do not run your AC at all, that somtimes makes those readings come up, and sometimes your killing your trucks sensors, I had a co driver run the AC, and found out that he didn't know, but it happened to me, and after that only when I'm pulling a heavy load up hill! Shut your AC Off, believe me your going to save a lot of Money! Just something to remember!
Go and fix your truck
By the way that happens when it's very HOT outside!
Where can I buy PDI gadget?
👉🏻FOR MY BIG BOSS PDI: amzn.to/3ckGefC
Thank you
Ok mind give me the derange light so I’m gonna change those sensor this morning
Any update? Did you fix it?
Hello Ryan do you have a contact number I want to ask you and questions truck in derate mode and won't regent can you help me figure it out
Please reach out to our company email. You should be able to find the email from the video description
What problem cost this sensor
low intake manifold pressure and codes related to the turbo.
And you said nothing about racoon leaking?
what is racoon leaking?
Truck engines nowadays will need steam cleaned.
I need his number so I can ask him few questions. Bc I’m getting check engine light stays on but engine derate come on but clears itself out.. keep in mind the check engine light continues to stay on. Faught code is 1228 egr valve position: data erratic, intermittent, or incorrect. 187 sensor supply 2 circuit : low voltage detected at the sensor supply 2 circuit. 2272 EGR valve position circuit: low signal voltage has been detected at the EGR valve position sensor circuit…this is what Peterbilt computer says.. now I just place the egr cooler, turbo, SCR, doc, dpf and other things bc of a egr cooler failure that leak coolant into the engine.. $30k I paid. Haven’t been in the truck 2 weeks and now I’m having check engine light stays on and the derate come on and off as it pls… I need help I watch this video and you sir seems very knowledgeable about 2016 peterbilt 579 isx15 Cummins even though you have KW.
Hi Mark, please schedule an appointment to come to our shop or schedule a consultation appointment. Here is our website for more information. www.foxtruckandtractor.com/
Hey did you get this fixed?
Whats was the problem. I just had an engine overhaul my self, but not I'm getting this derate problem.
@@ewash53212 gas pressure sensor was causing the derate… after I put 30k in it
@@markshepherd6504 WOW!
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Get to. The point yo
Helpful stuff but this entire video could have been 15 minutes shorter. Too much irrelevant information.
Dude get too the point
Get to the point
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I came back to the this video again days later AND OMG 9 MINUTES IN, AND I KNOW NO MORE THAN BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTED. GET TO THE POINT ALREADY.
If you want to be detailed this is good. But unnecessary word just some guys want to wash your truck. Don't wanna wash their and you wanna watch that has nothing to do with what you're talking about. My suggestion write all this down then learn how to shorten and get rid of the nonsense in the story. Input and detail is good but storytime is for children that need to go to sleep and that's what you're doing.
Make your own videos if you don't approve his. Literally makes no sense crying about what you crying about when the man is clearly genuinely helping you save money. All the explaining he's doing is educating you and you don't even realize it.
Shorter videos and more to the point quicker would be great
Get to the point