How does carving on a 2SWIFT compare to a Onewheel?
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2023
- In this video I tell a story about how I got into the 2swift, and how it carves in comparison to the onewheel. What a fun time to be alive with all these amazing inventions! The main takeaway is that the 2swift carves more naturally, since the onewheel speed can sometimes ever so slightly vary between toe and heel, causing the sense of an interruption from toeside to heelside carves. Sometimes I have to push down on the front as I do a heel carve so the speed stays steady. It's subtle, but carving a onewheel always felt slightly boring, even though I like the onewheel! The 2swift feels damp and solid. You can really push and lift up between carves. It feels like real gravity and you use physics, so it's not as robotic as a onewheel. Pavement feels like powder!
I'm an avid snowboard carver, very nerdy about it. This might sound crazy, but the next best carving sport I've tried is supermoto. It's the most fun I've had away from the mountains. I'm gonna buy one of these 2SWIFT boards someday!
Supermoto?! I'll have to look it up. The sensations from carving snow is unmatched, you know it. So many beautiful forces at play carving snow. I'm sad I couldn't capture a good snowboarding video last season. 2swift is what I do when I want a flowy mindless ride. Onewheel is great for exploring unknown terrain. I spend most of my summer on the longboards. No downhill sadly but I've got a pump track nearby that continues to challenge me. I've been riding the pump track switch!! Ryan Knapton would be proud. Lol. The right longboard setup or surfskate on the pump track is a beautiful connection to snowboard carving and your legs will be ready on day 1 of the season. I think what I love about longboarding more than the electric rides is that the skills progression and goal setting is more mentally engaging with longboarding than it is riding electric things.
Thanks for sharing Emily! You got me interested. Gonna try a 2SWIFT as I have always wanted to snowboard but unfortunately I live in a tropical country.
I windsurf, ride eskateboards, scooters, EUC’s and onewheels, learning in that order. I skateboarded as a kid so Eskateboards came naturally. None of my previous skills were transferable to EUC’s. That was a steep learning curve and after many falls and lots of profanity I finally got it. Just got a floatwheel and was surprisingly able to ride it off the bat. At 59 I’m grateful I have the chance to play and enjoy these cool hobbies.
Oh cool! I've been trying to put a video together to give tips to the beginner. I was wondering if the 2swift might be "too difficult" for people who don't have some board sport experience, but I never want the discomfort of trying something new to stop anyone! It may take a little time to get comfy, so stick with it. Progress happens at different rates for everyone. At slow speeds it's a little tippy. Stay super relaxed and make small balance corrections without getting rigid or tense. You'll naturally need to step off the board when you're first starting out slowly so just stay on your feet. Keep your knees soft and bent but stay loose and you'll hopefully be carving in no time. Omg, I just saw the 2nd half of your comment now. All of that prior experience is totally going to set you up for success!
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@@EmilyVidd thanks for the tips Emily! So far I haven’t been able to find a distributor of 2Swift’s in my country but will keep looking.
👍🏾🙏🏾 I am 62 and still ride all forms of boards including my Onewheel!😂 I love carving, so I shall look into this new 2Swift machine, I hope they have a supplier in Europe! 😎. 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
Awesome review! Been e-scootering for years now, and just the past year started looking into e-boards. As a snowboarder myself, this has really got me considering the 2swift. Thanks!!!
Brilliant video! very interesting the comparison of snowboarding, onewheel and the 2swift👍
That is too cool how they came out personally to let you try their product. Way to support small businesses
Yes, for sure! I still think it's awesome that 2Swift is from Cleveland. My husband and I were happy to be first Ohio customers!
Emily, this an awesome comparison review! You did an amazing job explaining how the 2Swift feels! Keep it up!
Thanks, glad you found it helpful! I was worried I rambled too much, which is easy for me to do because I get off topic.🤪 I think when I talked about the onewheel not perfectly holding even speed from toe to heel turns, it made more sense, because I often have to add extra pressure while doing a heel turn to keep the speed consistent, so my feet end up doing an extra little dance. I can make it flowy but it's a little forced, and specific for the onewheel. But on the 2 swift movements are evenly balanced and natural.
"Nothing like the feeling of carving on snow." Couldn't agree more!
I bought a onewheel because my friend was raving about how well it carves. I was very disappointed, I mostly use it now to run my daughter to the bus stop.
Summer carving would be so great, I'm thinking electric unicycle or electric surfboard next. Glad its still winter now though...
Lets see some snowboard carving next!
Yes! Onewheels feel lifeless compared to real carving! I mean no respect to people who ride onewheels of course. My local hill had only had 9 days of actual snowmaking temps so far, and now it's raining, so hopefully I can get some friends to help me make a video on snow soon. I've just been enjoying riding. I'd really love to see what my best feeling carves look like though! It's been a few years.
Yeah, it's been a slow start to winter here in Revelstoke too. We haven't even hit five meters of total snowfall yet and January is almost over! It's snowing now though and all the corduroy got buried.
As for onewheel nosedives on turns, I suggest you trying floatwheel. First, it is way more powerful. Second, it does some magic especially for sharp turns. I suspect it raises nose a bit on suoh turns. I also like that sensation of carving, and floatwheel is a big step forward for me compared to onewheel.
My xr shut off because I was running a low battery in colder temps. That was the only time I experienced a nosedive but the thought stays. Lol
Thank you for the great review Emily! I've been interested in purchasing a 2swift for over a year and have watched lots of video reviews in hopes of finding out if this is something I would enjoy. For background, I am nearing 50 years old and love snowboarding, wakeboarding, and just about all things PEV (e-bikes, e-scooters, e-skates,...). I am fortunate enough to own a Onewheel GT, Inmotion V12 EUC, and Exway Wave eskate.
While all of those are tons of fun in their own right, the 2swift has instantly become my favorite. After watching your video Emily, I was able to rent one at a local shop to see if I would enjoy it as much as others have described. After the rental, I decided to sell my Onewheel GT so I could purchase the 2swift.
This isn't meant to begin a debate over which is better; the Onewheel and 2swift have different pros/cons. I've read some comparisons of the Onewheel as a ninja, and the 2swift as a surfboard. I don't know the best description; I do agree that the Onewheel is very agile, responsive, and tons of fun. That being said, I still prefer the sheer enjoyment I get riding the 2swift. Carving on the 2swift is the closest I've come to the feeling of carving on a snowboard. At my age, it takes too long to recover from an injury, and I love that I can have a ball on the 2swift without having to go over 15 mph (it goes faster if speed is a priority to you). Hope this comment is helpful to someone looking to replicate the snowboard feel without a mountain nearby.
Awesome feedback! So glad my video was helpful in leading you to a 2swift. Trying it first was smart. If you're comparing riding a onewheel on smooth open pavement vs a 2swift, I say 2swift all the way! I can't quite part with the onewheel because it's fun on trails though. Being a snowboarder makes the transition effortless! 💕
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate the comparisons to the Onewheel as I have owned a few Onewheels and can relate.
I say ride all the things, and if time/budget allows, buy all the things too. 😆
It's refreshing to see a review by a female rider that's an actual review and not just her getting clicks because she's wearing a bikini. Most dudes here will know what I mean.
Have you crashed on the 2Swift? If so, what were the circumstances? I've owned 4 Onewheel variations and the nosedive is a deal breaker for me. Love carving, so I'm basically waiting for them to release a higher range model and then I'll purchase one. Hopefully their next revision is out before summer
No, I haven't fallen or had any crashes on the 2swift. I rode it fairly slow the first day. (5-12mph) I suppose it's a little more turny at really slow walking speeds, and tippy but any fall that slow could be stepped out of. My onewheel shut off during a cold temp ride once. I had a nasty fall. It wasn't a fall actually. I flew through the air and then landed on my face. Terrible. I never rode the onewheel under 40 degrees again, and didn't have any other falls or nosedives, so I always blamed the temperature and lower battery. Anyway, I definitely look forward to how the 2swift evolves. I recommend better braking and of course range is nice. I hope sales are good so they can keep improving.
Nice thorough and honest review. Thanks.
I came to onewheels from snowboarding and love it. Am definitely open to try new boards though. Love carving 🤙🏻 and another American made product!! 🇺🇸
Nice video and channel you have.
I finally got one partly due to this video. I agree that the riding feel is closer approximation to snowboarding than the onewheel (and esk8s). I've only put roughly 20 miles on it and won't pass judgement on it until I've had hundreds of miles of 2swift riding experience. I will say that I do enjoy riding it and do not regret the purchase as of yet but am pretty sure it won't unseat my EUC as my favorite PEV. Being able to carve around town without having to worry about nosediving is rather sublime.
A couple of things I noted so far:
Board is quite stiff with no flex so my feet are currently in pain and trying to adapt - maybe foam grip tape might help but I wish the deck was more flexible.
I wish there was a fender on the back wheel because I sometimes accidentally put my foot against the rear tire while trying to mount the board.
Trying to start the board while facing uphill is a challenge but that should be easier once I get better.
I wish the remote display expressed in numbers how much battery life I have left rather than in bars.
For the price, I expect the board to have a smart BMS and possibly an app that will provide info and the ability to change settings
The remote could be improved so that suddenly letting go of the accelerator wheel doesn't cause the 2swift to jerk
Braking needs to be improved. It cannot come to a complete stop even on a gentle downhill slope.
I bet the company would be very receptive of your feedback and suggestions for improvement. For me, the board is a great addition to a variety of things I like to ride. Good point! Glad you don't regret it
Cincinnati board sports neighbor here 🤙
Nice, tell me you are an FCC fan!! 🧡💙⚽️
Sweet video, the pair of XR's i recently got, 😊, one is rocking a set of WTFs, enduro tire with a bigger battery and vesc controller coming this winter, the extra is a great buddy board with that hoosier tire on it. Put about 500 miles of trails on it in the past month or so.
Nice! I do still enjoy the onewheel despite also enjoying 2Swift so much! My heart says ride ALL the things! Lol.
very cool! I recently got an Evolve Hadean. MAN can you carve on those double kingpin trucks. Very different carving experience from a standard board.
Thanks for the great video review. I generally carve on the onewheel, but I like to go in the grass and carve as well. I do think this looks like fun. Also it looked pretty cool longboarding on the pump track.
Thanks! The pump track has been such great exercise. I really like the new custom shaping for the gt onewheel that finally came out. It definitely makes it more fluid!
This looks really cool and I’d like to try it someday.
I ride Onewheels and skateboard. I wanted to mention, being that I have an XR, a Pint, and a GT, that the XR, HANDS DOWN, carves the best out of the three. That’s with the stock XR tire too.
The XR stock tire is actually very underrated. People think it sucks because of how flat the profile is but it actually makes for a very stable carving experience once you get used to it.
The GT was the exact opposite. It was HORRIBLE at carving when I got it and I was so disappointed. I ended up putting the Floatlife Enduro tire on it the second it was available and it drastically improved the carving ability of the GT. Still not quite as good as the XR though.
Interesting that you liked the stock vega tire on the xr. I liked the Hoosier for the xr. I loved the xr custom shaping and was disappointed in the gt when it first arrived. With custom shaping now available on gt, I feel it carves more smoothly, with less effort. In fact, I actually find myself wanting to ride the gt again, which says how important customizing the feel is. I guess with the 2swift, there's definitely less options, other than tightening the headset/steering fork.
@@EmilyVidd Yeah, I’m definitely in the minority with my Vega tire opinion, but I can carve like nobody’s business on it. 🤙🏻
I’m jealous about the custom shaping your toying with. I refuse to update until there’s a workaround to be able to turn the haptic buzz off. I ride high speeds on a regular basis and there’s no way I could put up with that thing buzzing at me constantly. Fingers crossed! 🤞🙂
If you like carving and longboarding, try a surfskate. I think you will love it.
If the front sensor is an issue one th Onewheel, go into the app and turn on single zone and quit worrying about heel or toe lift.
Hopefully a 2Swift makes it down under to Australia so I can give it a try. Have you tried riding an electric longboard with double kingpin trucks? They can carve pretty well and gives that snowboard/surfing sensation.
But you can get speed wobbles on a longboard, especially if it's electric and you tap the brakes. The 2Swift design is wobbleproof
Thanks for the comparison review! Do you own a 2Swift now or just got the chance to demo the board? If you could only own the OneWheel or the 2Swift, which one would you pick? I ride an EUC & an electric longboard but I'm looking for something else for around the neighborhood and I'm torn between these two options. I've never ridden either one so any advice or additional "ramblings" would be greatly appreciated!
Great question! My husband and I have 2swifts and onewheels! I think if a rider had to pick just one, it might come down to the landscape. In an urban setting with smooth pavement the 2swift would work well. But if there's tons and tons of steep hills, the 2swift needs to be ridden more carefully by planning speed in accordance with the landscape. Lastly, yes the 2swift can go on a trail, but only a onewheel can go on a super bumpy trail. It's so hard to say to get one over the other but if we're only talking about "carving" sensation then 2swift all the way. I just ordered my first action camera so I'd like to make a 2swift tutorial soon and break down how to ride it.
The geometry of the 2swift looks like it’s very similar to surfskates.
Hmm, I have carver surf skates, but would say the feeling is quite different. 2 swift feels light and effortless. Very close to intermediate mellow snowboard carving. Surfskates require a lot of weight transfer to generate momentum.
I would recommend a Yow, Aquilo, Swelltech or SmoothStar. No disrespect to the OG American inventor of the surfskate. Of course they are surfskates so they aren’t really like snowboarding. But when I watched you cruising around that parking lot I thought to myself if I saw it from my car I would have to stop and rip it up. I keep a surskate in my car even in the winter. Plus as far as a workout surf skate is low impact great cardio going up and down hills. I agree that you do have to throw your weight around more than a snowboard but I am truly addicted.
Thank you for the video and even entertaining my reply.
You should try electric unicycles
Good job on carving comparison! I ride OW XR. Really want to ride a 2 swift. Would you say it’s worth it’s $1,800 price tag? $1,800 is what I paid for my XR in 2020.
I wish I had a straightforward answer. You just have to try it and see. Everyone's situation is different. Supporting a locally owned and designed product factored into my willingness to pull the trigger. I know myself and knew I'd be thinking about it, had I not bought it, so I didn't wait.
Once on a board that I’ve enjoyed the price goes away even on the GT-S which is twice the price almost.
I went ahead and got one on Black Friday weekend for $1600 plus shipping. It’s such a different feel. Am having fun learning to ride. The board is well made and the customer service is amazing. No regurts!
Where is that paved track you were riding on?
Dayton Bike Yard
If you ride a VESC or more powerful board in general, get your tune right, that front foot thing is gone. You'll never achieve the feeling that you get with one wheel because of the throttle. ABC's are important(Always Be Carving)but once you get over 1,000 miles on the onewheel, all the things you describe(for me anyway)goes away. I think also you may not understand how the sensor works in the front. Once you roll, the sensors have no play.
Well I still enjoy riding the onewheel. The main thing I noticed riding it (since 2017) is the heel carve sometimes slows down ever so slightly, enough that is a subtle interruption in flow but probably only noticeable because of over 25 years carving a snowboard, where transitions are light and poppy. I think the 2swift mimics the feel but is nowhere close. I think the onewheel can feel great carving too, especially with what you mentioned, higher torque models, settings, experience, etc. Ride everything and have fun!
@@EmilyVidd I will try it, but, having learned to ride E-skates(took way to long)and then jumping on the 1 wheel and never looking back(8-9K miles later)the thing that always got me, is the intuitive feel of the 1 wheel, with no throttle. Thanks for sharing, thanks for the reply.
@deanaoxo so true because I gotta say, my first onewheel ride was in a gravel parking lot (while I was waiting for mine to ship). Knowing I could easily ride it first on rocks made me feel great about my purchase. Lol
@@EmilyVidd gravel was my achilles heal. I got it now, but much respect for starting there. It just freaked me out.
if you wanna snowboard on the street, just take a Summerboard
The summer board reminds me of side slipped turns. I like that the onewheel and even the 2swift handle bumps and uneven spots better
How is it offroad?
Meh, I prefer onewheel for that. 2swift is when I want to ride 20mph on smooth concrete and just flow
It's hilarious watching everybody. Try to copy something like the one wheel and falling so so very short.
You're perspective is a bit overly simplistic and very black and white. No need to hate on other products. I think anyone who rides a onewheel agrees they are amazing. My video is just talking about a certain turning sensation that I think feels cool on a 2swift. I also like turning sensations from snowboards, longboards, wakeboards, etc. Doesn't have to be a contest.
This board is trying to replicate the feel of snowboarding which it does BETTER than the onewheel according to the OP who has owned and rides both. The 2swift has two wheels so I'm not sure why you even think it is a "copy". Most of what makes the onewheel unique besides its one wheel is the self balancing aspect which the 2Swift has no component similarity. If you want to talk copies, then the Floatwheel is the closest thing and the floatwheel is faster, stronger and has better range than any onewheel. Another single wheel variant are the EUCs which will blow away the onewheel in any objective performance metric.
@bookmark2846 something funny to add is the guys who made the 2swift precisely said they were trying to design something new and different. They all ride onewheels, and like them just fine. Nobody is hating on onewheels. Lol. But they probably get sick of being compared to or grouped with it. It's just a cool machine that they worked to bring to life. It's different but familiar at the same time. More power to them.
Another pavement princess. I don't understand how anybody could ever say that board you are writing is anything nearly as capable as a one wheel but if you ride around on pavement I guess it doesn't matter.
Onewheels are amazing. Engineering superb. The 2swift is also a fun thing to ride. Get over yourself lol
Naw I'll still to my Onewheel. Tnx privileged Xer