How to Use a Tile Leveling System the Right Way
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- How to install tile with a tile leveling system the right way!
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What size of trowel to use for 12x24 tile?
@@cpccpc1749 1/2" x 1/2" 👍
Landberg Tile TV Hello thanks for replying so fast. Just to follow up, I cannot use 1/4x1/4? Just I don’t want the floor to be too high?What do you think?
What do you mean by collapse?
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One mistake that must be avoided when using tile leveling systems such as this wedge system, is not to over tighten the wedge when pressing it into place. Doing so causes the clip to bend/flex which in turn causes the grout line to widen. It took us alot of time to realise what was causing our lines to be wider in many places. The lesson? Tighten just until you feel the wedge is fastened securely and that's it! Don't force it in any further so that the clip maintains its straight form. This will ensure consistent grout lines throughout your installation.
blueskies I found this the hard way too. Also, tightening causes the bottom flange of the spacer to “fold” like a taco as it’s pulled into the joint. This can actually push the tile up away from the mortar bed.
thankyou!
Absolutely priceless advice for a newbie. Thank you very much.
@@Samlol23_drrich No problem. Also another reason for not over tightening is that sometimes the clips will actually break, then you're screwed because you have already laid your tile but lost your levelling clip. Hate it when that happens.
One more tip: Another cause for having random wider grout lines can be because you may be using tiles that have inconsistent edges with some edges that are tapered (not squared perfectly) and so the result will be varied grout line widths. This is also very annoying. So make sure you inspect the tiles quality before installing.I learned the hard way on one job when I had to shave of all the tile edges to square them of so that I can get a consistent 2mm grout line. Not fun at all.
What about for your first row, i noticed that the tiles tend to move when using spacers
Another quick tip I’ve found helpful is to completely clean out the access thinset that may squirt out around the clips. Not cleaning out the grout lines can cause a lot of trouble when breaking the clips off after installation. This is good practice anyways to ensure there is plenty of grout in between the tile but is very critical around the clips. I’ve found keeping an old toothbrush and a bucket of water next to me works best.
This worked great for redoing the shower/bathtub of my kid's bathroom. czcams.com/users/postUgkxfiuHoZJo3bgdVPFRxQ-iqPpfbEHl2cYt I didn't like the guide, so I took it off. I just used a fine tipped sharpie on the tile and followed that line. It does make a wet mess, and once I started looking like I wet myself I started wearing a towel and apron while cutting. The blade it came with worked great until we wore it out. It was better than the replacement one we bought. I tried looking for just their blade, but failed. Not really for larger tiles unless you stack stuff on either side to support the tiles. Anyway, would definitley buy again.
Excellent demo. The clear glass tiles made your points … so transparent. Appreciate the effort.
Great demo. detailed and to the point without all the unnecessary blah blah. Thanks
Brilliant video, none of the "I'm a great guy" rubbish - straight to the point, clearly explained and the glass tiles just make the whole video work. Excellent.
thanks!
Thank you so much for showing what's going on behind the tiles!!! This is so much more informational than "just do it because we says so"!
EXCELLENT...the glass shows what happens on the back of tile.
Thank you from all who like things done to last. And look right.
Thank you for watching! 👊
Wonder, straight to the point, no BS, video. Love it. Thanks!
Thanks for this from a master tilesetter that is still learning new techniques after 15 years.
If you would backbutter the glass you would have even more coverage and bonding.
But if you did that it might have been hard to see what's going on so I understand why you left it out.
That happens when you pretending that you know the job hahah funny video.
He mentions this in the video that’s why he left it out because viewers would not be able to see what was going on
Yup, absolutely right! I like this video - straight to the point, no BS.
I've done a lot of things but I've never tiled and I'm about to tile my parent's bathroom floor and you literally answered every question I had and a few I didn't even know I should have with this one video. I feel confident that I can nail this job no problem.
Thanks!
So how did it turn out ?👍
Do not back butter that tile it is not professional and may create blotting and cracking
@@user-jl7yb9cw1w The people who built my house 20 years ago did not back butter. That is why there are air gaps when i step on the tiles years later. Very little penetration on the back of the tile.
Thanks for the great video on setting floor tiles on thinset. It is very helpful and I appreciate your time and helpful advise.
You a certainly the best tile man out there thank you so much for your help
Great video. i learned a ton and have a ton more confidence heading over to Menards get my mortar and trowel in about 5 minutes. This was just the video I was looking for to make sure my bathroom tiles were set properly and with zero lippage. Thanks a ton !!!!
I'm happy we could help with your installation! Good luck and thanks for watching 👊
Excellent perception with the transparent glass illustration 👌 nice touch
Thank you very much!
Thank you so much for clarifying the ceramic installation
Professional tile installers in our area still swirl the thin set and eyeball the level. Amazing.
Fantastic video...love the cause-and-effect use of glass panes. Very beneficial
Glad it was helpful!
Best explanation I could find on youtube. Thank you!!!
Awesome video. Thank you. It helped a lot on my living room tile install. Very educational.
Thanks for the kind words! Happy you enjoyed it. 👊
Excellent! And I agree back buttering would have yielded nearly 100%.
thanks for tips! very educational
Has nothing to do with leveling system. That was correct and incorrect way of applying the thinset
Lol right
Which they already made a video about. I hope they put more effort into tiling than choosing titles for their videos.
even that was done dishonestly. He didnt apply any down pressure to the first 2 tiles to collapse the ridges. I know directional troweling is important but he fudged the experiment to get his desired result
BACKBUTTER
You noticed also
Very *clear* demonstration! You explained this better than anyone else.
Short and sweet, good content, thanks
Glad you liked it!
You guys have made me a better tile guy and I thank you very much. Nothing but love
Thanks for the comment my man! Tile on 👊
Excellent, excellent video. Thank you.
Awesome video, I like how you used glass panels to show how well the tile will bond. What I learned from this video is that if the thinset is not applied properly then the tile leveling system is almost ineffective.
Yes! That's exactly what I was trying to demonstrate. You should check out my how to use tile leveling systems on walls video I recently posted, it's a good one! 👊
Yes!
You got the point, others missed.
The way you trowel is the way you set the tile. No tile leveling system can work againdt poorly trowelled cement.
@@LandbergTileTV How much you earn for a day or oer hour?
A great video about how to apply thinset. As others have said, this was all about how to apply thinset and push down on the tile to collapse the ridges and nothing about using the wedges. The only useful tip about using wedges that you did show was removing the thinset between the tiles. You did it but did not talk about it.
Great demonstration. Thank you
Ugh where was this video 2 weeks ago when I needed it! damn you google algorithm! thanks for the tips
Great video! Very informative!
Very helpful to see through the tiles! Thanks!
Iv been cleaning carpet, tile and grout professionally for the last few years. Looking to finally start my own business in Florida installing and cleaning tile and grout. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Iv never installed a single tile yet, but this makes perfect sense to me.
In florida!??! Tile installation doesnt pay, people here are always broke. And if you do that back buttering waste of time u wont last in the business, at least in fl
Come to canada its 3-12$ a sqft vancouver to b exact 8$ is what id say most charge u can make 20k+ a month
@@ecom300 nova Scotia 3 bucks.supply mortar and delivery.
@@stevedimock3001 wow thats cheap down in bc they charge 8-12 ive even heard ppl charging 20 a sqft only grout incl
@@ecom300 I been doing this for 35 years the only thing that's gone up is the size of the tile and amount of mortar and effort. Oh and the warranty to 3 years with 3 8ths ply over 5 8ths chipboard that's swelled and delamenated from rain and weather.
Thanks bro 4 make a very useful video.it's helpful for me because im a tile fixer in uae.thanks again
Thanks King. Its my first time doing this kind of job and this video helped me 100%
THAT is how you do it! Thanks, man!
Great video. Thank you
Good demo thank you
Thank you sir! 👊
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Most informative video on the subject matter on CZcams. Well done, visual demonstration was fantastic- very informative.
Thank you sir! Appreciate the kind comment. 👊
Going a bit far now mate
Thnx. Great 👍🏼 tutorial
Very concise, very informative.
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Dropping truth! Great video Sir!
Thanks man! Thought it would be a cool video to make!
So helpful thank you
To level tile on a 3x5 sheet is a lot different than finding a high spot and going off it in a 300sq’ room
This is indeed so, while the tile leveling systems are NOT meant to fully compensate for uneven floors, some help on how to deal with such floors would be appreciated
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you have good trick n review,, thanks for video
Thank you, I'm happy you enjoyed It! 👊
Great video many thanks.
What size spacing between the tiles would you recommend on floor tiles in a bathroom. The tiles I am using are 600mm x 300mm and 8mm thick.
Thanks Chris
Great instructional video
Great demo.
Great short guidance
Thanks for watching! 👊
Spot bonding is needed during certain situations.
After you Directional trowel whatever size trowel you use your supposed to move the tile 3x the distance of the notch to knock down the ridges to get your coverage. Back buttering helps only with transfer not with coverage
great information
Thank you. Very good video, it did help me a lot.
Kinda funny how you didn't push the first tiles down as hard as you did on the second one's where you used directional trialing. 🤔
You failed Need to back butter all tile before setting tile in troweled area. Next
@@bryanthomas5275 he addresses this if you were paying attention. Second he's using glass for a reason and back buttering would have taken away from the demonstration of what happens to the ridges.
kinda funny how its very obvious your still doing it the wrong way!
within the first 30 seconds I liked the video. Before the end I subscribed and ringed the bell
helpful, thank u
I love your vids short sweet and spot on! Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing. You’re a BOSS at laying tile!
Thank you sir! Appreciate the comment 👊
Nice video! Thx!!
You're welcome, thanks for the view and comment! 👊
Great video and explanation! Subscribing now.
Awesome, thank you!
This video was more about troweling than it was using a leveling system like the title says
Good point Travis, I could have gone over more info on leveling systems. Thanks for giving me a good idea for the next video! 👊
Incorrect troweling is a not a wrong way to use clips.
Sort of like a video on the correct way to use screws, and the content covers adhesive application.
Sorry for beating the dead horse.
He was trying to point out that the leveling system works better with throweling the right way so the ridges can collapse properly. At least that's what I learned from this video.
I think he's trying to show that the leveling system is not meant to compensate for poor trowelling technique
Hey Guys, there’s a good possibility that it was a video about all the above. All of your thoughts encompassed into one video. 😉
This is definetly the only correct way to do it properly!
Yes sir! Thanks for watching 👊
Not is Not
I did the correct method for my first tile job👍
Awesome video, quick and informative! Do the back butter trowel lines need to be going in the same direction as the floor lines as well?
We only skim coat the back of the back of the tile and trowel with ridges on the floor. Thanks for the watch and comment! 👊
Excellent video bro...nice,simple and understanding. #no-long-talk
Thank you for that
and thank you for watching!
AWESOME!! Would have been even better if you showed how to use the levelers for those beginners. How do you uninstall the levers?
It looks like green is your favorite color I never seen lime green gloves before
At 3:25 and 3:31 you spread the adhesive with the trowel, did you add any adhgesive or just spread what you have on the board please?
Thanks Dexter :)
Great Channel! Please do a video on how to begin a project. How to find the center of a room and apply first row. Preferably for a whole house. Which room should I start in? I’m building my home soon and plan to tackle the tile. I’ve done tile before but am by any means no expert. Your channel has been very helpful and I feel like I can do this without screwing it up. The leveling system would have come in handy on my last home. Please include how to account for any uneven areas. Thanks!
Carlos Torres you would want to start center line off main focus of front door or foyer and work way out that way.
I'd leave the tile to professionals, tiling is one of the projects that should never be DIY, no matter what anyone says. Unfortunately finding a true pro is hard to find. Every tile setter has a technique they use and we all differ immensely in how we do things. Never DIY tile is the best advice I could give to anyone. These simple and easy video tutorials you watch are done in very controlled conditions and don't account for actual floor conditions. And before anyone replies with floor needs to be leveled etc. If you've been in tiling business long enough you know that most of the time due many reasons leveling is not an option.
Yes get a tile guy!!
@@MrApano What is this "level floor" of which you speak? I've never seen such a thing...
@@markbeiser level floor I speak of is like one of them mythical unicorn creatures
Awesome. Thankyou👍🇪🇬 🇪🇬💪
Cheers😊
The glass was great idea! I gotta add after reading some comments you gotta tough crowd here😆
lol, I don't mind rude comments, CZcams is infamous for it! Thanks for the watch and add 👊
Large format tiles should always be back buttered as well as trowling the substrate, this ensures coverage.
Yup
1:56 rhythmic spotbonding! Nice
Do you use these leveling pieces by edges ? If not , does tile stay even leveled if u don’t use them ball wall edge?
is pliar required necessary for pushing wedges? or can we make it tight with our hand by pushing them?
Hi .. I have removed the old floors from a bathroom, around 5 square meter. There was a celotex (50mm), sitting on a concrete slab. I repeated the same model, but I added a membering first then 50mm celotex then 12mm Hardibacker. I fixed the hardibacker with screws to the main concrete slab through the celotex. Any potential problem with that? Any advice before tiling?
Thank you.
Love this!!!!
Emmy Braxtly
Thank you! 👊
With the swirl troweling, you are careful not to push on it at all, but then with the directional trowel you still gave it a good shove to bed it down. While directional troweling is indeed ideal, in many situations like corners it can be difficult, and this video over-exaggerates the difference. If you had given those first set a bit of a push they would have been bedded nearly as well, and certainly with the 85% coverage needed to be properly bonded.
ya, why be bogus?
Yes I totally agree it's no comparison unless the same procedure is done for all ? Pointless
I already put some tiles without backbuttering, can I do the rest of my tiles backbuttering style, or my existing tiles will sit too low??
Tiles are 24x24
This is more of a video on how to trowel. Was looking for more details on how to level them properly
I have lots of videos on leveling systems, here is my playlist link:
czcams.com/video/oo1cVAy8wxc/video.html
Good job sir exilent well updat
Hi, should we let the first tile dry before installing the next tiles? If don't, will the the first tile move after we tighten the wedges?
Verry verry good,thanks
super A1 keep it up.
I have done some floor tiles with these levelers, and most anoying thing is thinset around plastic. You need completly clean plastic and remove exces thinset from tile edge, otherwise plastic get stuck in between tiles (where grout needs to be). And lightly backbutter every tile for 100% coverage.
Great video, thanks for this! Do you have any tips for using the leveling system when installing 3”x12” tiles? I’m tackling that this weekend. Thanks!
We have definitely used them for that smaller size. I would recommend against a pliers set and only use your fingers. Keep in mind, you'll use a ton of clips. Good luck and thanks for the watch!
I purchased 200 clips and 100 wedges. The bathroom is 35 sq ft. The clips aren’t cheap, but will be worth the cost if everything comes out level!
You are absolutely correct here. The only problem is on building sites here in UK they give you poor floors to tile on that ideally need latex leveller before fixing then use the levelling system for installing large format tiles. Problem is they don't want to spend the money on latex leveller and think the levelling clips are the solution. So tilers are having the blob out the tiles because the floors are that bad. Same on the walls. They fling up plasterboard without making sure it's flat then expect the tiler to fix the correct way. Tiler inevitably has to bed up the tiles to get over someone else's shit workmanship. Therefore tilers are having to fix the tiles the incorrect way. Then out come the snaggers. They should snag the walls n floors before tiles go on. They do everything tits up here in UK. Good video though because this is the correct way to fix tiles. Just need flat surfaces to succeed in fixing the correct way.
M J guitars same here in Australia. Last man cops it.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
@@Viralclown yeah it's bullshit. The snaggers come out at the end and pull your work and they don't know what shit is behind the tiles. They stand there with magnifying glasses pulling the tiles. Alot of cheap ceramics are different sizes as well. They expect you to polish a turd.
this! Croatia the same thing
In which direction do you backbutter?
What thinset is needed to make sure its a clean break? Thank you, for the video
Thinset doesn't matter, make sure you clear out the edge of the tile before setting and keep thinset away from the clip base👊👊👊
Glad I watched this vid😎🤙🤘🖖✌
Thanks for watching! 👊
Very informative- thank you. Quick question, why is it necessary to put adhesive on the back of the tile as well as the wall?
Backbutter gives the tile a better bond
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Very informative, thank you! :)
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