Shia LaBeouf Becomes Catholic - "Latin Mass Affects Me Deeply"
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- Shia LaBeouf speaks on how the Latin Mass deeply impacted him.
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Shia LaBeouf Becomes Catholic - "Latin Mass Affects Me Deeply"
My husband only came to Mass with us on Christmas and Easter UNTIL we moved and went to an FSSP parish. He’s come with us every. Single. Week. When we walked out of Holy Mass for the first time he said “THAT!! That is Catholicism. I’ve been saying for years that something just isn’t right with the novus ordo. The Traditional Latin Mass is it.” He’s on the road to fulfilling all sacraments.
Thanks be to God!! I am so happy to hear that!
@thelivingfaithfulhomeschooler please pray for my husband, who's just now beginning to ask about confirmation classes...
Said the same.
Oh good grief!! I have been attending Mass for 69 years ( Latin included )
No rules or commandments have changed since I started going.
What a ridiculous statement!
So I am no longer a “ proper “ practicing Catholic?
Go to whatever Mass you like. Just don’t put down your fellow Catholics. I don’t care what type of Mass you attend.
@@pjsmith4369 It's not up to you "to care" in a frivolous manner. But you should care when an arrogant Pope assumes power he does not rightfully have to engage in childish spitefulness in trying to suppress the Mass of the ages, while lying that VII demands it, which it didn't, because his faithlessness is being challenged by those who recognize immutable truths while he is a denier of immutable truth. In fact, as a process theologian, Francis believes in an insecure confused nervous God Who changes His mind and is still in the process of trying to figure things out Himself.
A beautiful thing about being Catholic is that you can go to any country in the world, walk into a church and be at home. You know what is happening regardless of the language. Catholic means universal!
All for the glory of God!
Unless you see a rainbow flag at the church.
On Easter Sunday we went to our regular TLM, but they did not have the regular services that day, we stayed at mass in Polish, we are hispanics and we were at home.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 👍👍👍👍😆🤪😝😆😆😂
Typical catholic post.. Not a word of Jesus Christ..
This really turns my stomach..
I can relate to Shia. Once you’ve tasted a Traditional Latin mass, you can’t un-taste it. It’s reverent, glorious and it’s beautiful.
Same here. I have experienced that too. This reason why I am learning the Latin language and learning prays. Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory to Be, and Apostle Creed (long form). Learning more prayer in Latin.
Yes and no, i know more peeps who have gone in and disliked it compared to those who like it
Probably because these peeps assume too much 😂
I do hope Barron at least tries saying Latin Mass. We need priest like Barron and James Martin to celebrate such Divine Liturgies. They will be able to make the Jihadist Tradies and borderline SSPVs feel uncomfortable with their extreme believes 😂.
I love the EF Mass and will NEVER allow myself to compromise too much work for such a beautiful Liturgy
BUT
I hate it when conversations after Mass start to take turns like JP2 not a saint and V2 validity crap. People who know me know that i don't use words like TLM and NO instead i use words like EF and OF. Priest who are against the Latin Mass feel more comfortable with the words EF and OF like how non Denominational Protestants would prefer the word Christians over Protestants.
Am i self censoring, IDK, but i realize just a little change in ones vocabulary helps a lot.
Lastly, i will advice EF attendees to go for a Jesuit retreat for at least a week, liturgical abuses and herassy may be through the roof but it really does help.
I have been attending EF on a weekly basis since 2019 and honestly, this is my advice.
@@marketgarden8910 it is all with charity, isn’t it? I’m a regular NO catholic. I was raised in it, I go to it for daily and Sunday mass still. But even people like the SSPV, I think they often have more charity than we give them credit for (and the same charity that many don’t give Fr. James Martin credit for) We have to realize our traditions and not neglect them. Reading the desert fathers, Pope St. Gregory the Great, St. Pio of Pietrelcina, etc. we can find the same beauty in the liturgy and the beatific essence of it all. Christ says the greatest commandment is to love your neighbor as you love yourself. And we have all had sin which would damn us if we did not have Christ and his charity. So we must “forgive our trespassers as they trespass against us.” The lessons of our sins is the wisdom we must give. WITHOUT JUDGEMENT.
@@marketgarden8910 I love JPII, Benedict, and perhaps Francis the most of the holy fathers since VII. We must meet the lapsed and unbelievers and radical traditionalists where they are. Terrible things have happened in the church. Liturgically and particularly with sexual abuse. Pope St. John Paul II was at the head of the church when it all came out about abuse of young boys. Those doubts of his sainthood never deny his personal holiness but rather his dealings with the entire ecclesiastical body of Christ. It can be terribly hard to reconcile those things. Our salvation is not of men but of Christ. We can’t blaspheme the saints but must remember they were men. The worst sinners (St. Augustine, St. Francis, St. Mary of Egypt, etc) made the greatest saints.
Shia told the bishop exactly what we feel when we go to the Tridentine mass. Listen up bishops some of us want and love it.
King Pope Francis has made his decree.
No TLM for thee!
I attend Latin mass almost everyday I love it thank god for our brother shia
I underwent a huge conversion via the Latin mass. It’s so incredibly reverent. God is there 🙏
Same 🌹
So did I, but keep going!!!!!! Most Trads think they don't have to seek Truth anymore. They stop and become defiantly proud. There's a huge amount of truth to still be found. Peace.
I agree I cried and really hate crying in public. I cried before the Eucharist 🫓🕊✝️😢❤️
Agreed. However, his recent movie about Saint Padre Pio, however, is straight-up evil .. ALL
subliminal visuals with sinister music and cinematography.
It's not about Pio at all. It is ANTI-Catholic with no redeeming aspect.
LaBouff is a liar!
Amen. I don't want to be sold something, I want to be shepherded. Latin Mass is what I was raised on.
Well, his movie about our Saint Padre Pio, however, is straight-up evil .. ALL
subliminal visuals with sinister music and cinematography.
It's not about Pio at all. It is ANTI-Catholic with no redeeming aspect.
LaBouff is a liar!
So happy Shia came back to the faith. We need more people like him in Hollywood to represent the Catholic faith 🙌🏼.
How can one be Catholic and keep participating and by default supporting godless Hollywood movies?
Mark Wahlberg converted some time ago.
I thought he was Jewish tbh.
To represent the Catholic faith?
Not to promote the Gospel?
Strange ....
Yes and he needs God to give him peace. Some people are born with more turbulence than others and prayers 🙏 others move towards God and away from anger and pain.
I totally relate to what Shia is saying about having an immediate rebellion against something pushed onto you.
The Bogus Ordo was a forced modernist creation and not an organic development of liturgy. The modernists hate that people can unconsciously see through it and desire the Mass of the ages.
I love to close my eyes through the entire mass so I can focus on the feeling part of it. I love my Catholic faith.
I love that as well! It is a blessing!
Yes it's wonderful.
Its funny that you say that you love your Catholic faith. Not that you love Jesus or Father God. Hmmm
@@geordiewishart1683 By faith she means her relationship with God though.
@@geordiewishart1683 I’ll say another way of saying it is „I love being in love with Jesus“. Ask her…I’ll bet she’ll tell you the same 🙂
He has just stepped into an incredibly deep and beautiful world.
Lot of respect for this guy looks like he's doing so much better
Yes it's takes you in a feeling realm. The singing in Latin makes me cry. Amazing presence of God and worship.
Indeed! It is glorious!
Amen
Reverence.
And you know why the Latin mass is being banned .....the devil hates Latin ....it is the official language of the church .
The singing, when done correctly, absolutely does make you cry. We had a low mass with Cardinal Burke and the choir sang O Santissima while he vested and I felt like I was listening to Heaven. The tears came easily.
I actually think Shia's take on the Mass and the reform is the best I have heard. He mentions how the Latin mass can sometimes feel exclusive which is why "the mass has changed because there was a yearning activate the public in an artificial way". In other words the changed attempted missed the mark, or one could say even the point of what was hoped for.
He talked about how the church tried to (paraphrase here) 'activate the laity from the office without putting any agency on the priest.'
VS
"Old Latin mass put all the agency on the Priest to be fully activated, and that activation was supposed to activate... the laity."
I got to say I would have never expected this to be said from Shia LaBeouf. But leave it to God to surprise us.
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He’s too rigid. 😄
@@johantrenier1685 🤣🤣🤣
For me personally, Shia's comment about how the Latin mass can feel exclusive resonates strongly.
It's crazy to me that almost 60 years after Sacrosanctum Concilium the church still has not been able to produce a mass according to that constitution. Though I have heard that in many areas, particularly in Asia and Africa (places where the church is growing), Sacrosanctum Concilium has been a great blessing.
@@maciejpieczula631 It’s a different experience. I’m 60 years old. The last 2 years since finding TLM has been a great blessing.
A shadow side? A theater production? I’ve seen tons of liturgical theater. Sacred dance,drum kits and banjos and nightclub singers. The priest facing the congregation , jokes,anecdotes,pantomimes. None of it was at a tlm.
Great point! That is much more a theatre production!
@@TheJoyoftheFaith Theatre production? There are those who even find the this "theatre production" is boring. Dont get me wrong - i love the TLM. But not the Sola TLM attitude of rad trads. It is also important to note that the TLM only appeals to the Anglo phile background. There is hardly a ripple of the TLM /NO divide in Africa, Asia and South America.
@@jeremiahong248 I’ve noticed that. African culture involves singing to each other and dancing communally as a normal part of daily communication.(vs entertainment). There is a TLM movement in South America however. Perhaps the NO was only particularly abused in western nations, and so the TLM is gaining the most ground there. All I know is I spent 50 years in the NO and felt robbed of my birthright when I discovered traditional faith (not just the liturgy), am gratefully overjoyed that it exists. I have yet to meet this “angry trad” I keep hearing about, but I’m sure he’s out there somewhere. I do know a few old hippies who complain bitterly about the nonsense in my old parish but stubbornly refuse to come out of Egypt. They’d rather dig in and complain then go back home.
@@awesomepossumstudios8976 There plenty of Sola TLM rad trads around. I can share a couple of rad trad channels with you where they are most active and angry. I wonder if that is the best for the TLM proposition. There is hardly any love and charity shown.
The TLM must be retained and celebrated. So Sola TLM is wrong.
The reason why the NO is instituted - there are fertile ground for evangelisation to the rest of the world. They don't have Anglo Saxon background. They may not be particularly predisposed to the Anglo-Saxon cultures as they had only "recently" break free from their white/European colonial masters. The TLM reminds them of this colonial yoke where the Christian churches- both Protestant and Catholic are seen to collude with the colonial masters in yoking them economically and spiritually. Double control. Christianity is a white man's religion - that's is how some may see it.
We know the truth is not but perception is reality. The TLM is too anglo saxon. The NO allows the meeting of Jesus in the locals' language and liturgy (as prescribed and approved by the Magisterium which is never wrong Matt 18:18).
So live and let live. Let the Anglo-Saxon have their TLM and the rest of the Catholic world the NO. A freedom to select the liturgy that best allow them to meet Jesus.
My parish is 100% NO. We have monthly rosary, monthly flame of love rosary, Holy Hour, monthly devotion to Padre St Pio, missionary outreach, active St Vincent de Paul, we have 45 catechumens in RCIA last year. So NO does allow Catholics to live a full Christian discipleship too.
@@jeremiahong248 We Latinos are discovering what was hidden from us (there are plenty of websites in Spanish dedicated to the TLM), and Latin Masses are flourishing in Latin American... I always wondered where did the _ora pro nobis_ came from. When I found out just 2 years ago, I _felt_ the need to know more. Now, there is no going back.
I grew up with the Tridentine Mass, and we PARTICIPATED. We recited the Gloria, the Credo, responded "et cum spititu tuo", etc. And for those interested ALL the prayers were translated into English in ALL missals available to the laity. Also, the actions of the priest were explained. I still have my St Joseph's Sunday missal. So spare me the participation argument. AND I miss the way priest and congregation faced ad orientem. The focus was where it belonged.
Sounds like you were at a latin mass when the mass was in the process of being changed. I remember that brief era.
Prior to VII the congregation did not verbalize responses at high or low mass. The servers responded for the congregation and at high mass the choir sang the gloria, sanctus, angus dei, our father and the creed.
The mass did not have all participants in the same role which is as it should be. Everyone does not have the same God given talents or role to play in this life on earth.
That we all ASSIST at mass was always stressed and understood.
At the Novus Ordo my responses become rote and often seem to interrupt my participation. I have often recalled the admonition of my grammar school teachers that such rote behavior is not assisting at mass and indicates that one has not assisted at mass + therefore had missed mass.
It's like saying the rosary without meditating on the mysteries + fruits.
@@alexk48 I fondly remember the 9 o'clock Mass which grades 1-8 attended. Graduated Catholic HS in '68 so I had quite a number of years with the Traditional Latin Mass. How I miss it! I agree with your comments regarding Novus Ordo.
@@alexk48 That is so funny! What I remember about the Latin Mass is learning all the prayers by rote.
We knew them by heart, but to say them really meant nothing.
We said the prayers in English everywhere else ( in class, at home ) so saying them in Latin was really because we were ordered to.
I would never go back to a Latin Mass unless it was the only one around. Such depressing memories. I am a musician, but if I was forced to listen to the Gregorian Chant - I’d block my ears.
I can’t think of a more unpleasant genre of music - never mind that it is in Latin. That would make it even more torturous on the ears.
From a classical pianist who loves music.
@@pjsmith4369but isn't that one of the critiques of the Novus Ordum, the music often times glorifies the musician at the expense of encouraging participation of the mass which was the reason in the first place the Novus Ordum came about? And how do you feel every time you attend a Novus Ordum mass and paradoxically there is less apparent participation and less of a general sense of their not being fully present and mindful of what they are witness to? Perhaps it's because the Novus Ordum has the broadest participation right now, which is why it has that many more people taking it for granted, while the opposite is true of the Latin Mass because so few are privileged to go to it because it is so hard to find.
The message i got to my heart when I read of Shia's conversion was that our Lord is using the sufferings of his people to bring more into the flock. We have no idea what our prayers and sacrifices accomplish in this realm and we never will until we get to heaven. So keep praying, fasting and just storming heaven for more conversions because thats one way of hastening the coming of the Era of Peace.
Exactly! There can actually come an Era of Peace soon (and not the so much discussed Apocalypse yet).
Our Lady promised it in Fatima that it would take place after the Consecration of Russia.
(Although it's been said to have happened in 1984 and after, there wasn't a Worldwide peace really so I believe it is still to happen!)
Beautifully said! I shake my head at my protestant friends who cling to the bible as their only source of inspiration. Our prayers and sacrifices have effect! Keep it up and pray for the Holy Souls in Purgatory especially your relatives!
Thank you PADRE PIO! Pray for your spiritual children. I love you .
The first high mass I went to I cried.
I cried at my baptism
I cried at receiving first Communion.
I totally get what he's saying.
Wow! What a wonderful explanation of the Traditional Latin Mass by Shia LaBeouf. He had such a detailed explanation of how the TLM is much better that left Bishop Barron speechless.
Bobby is no friend of the TLM or traditional Catholics.
@@RickW-HGWT, so true, he was speechless with a sour face.
@@JeOrtiz1 I will give bob credit, he did take on the "Atlantic" for the attack on the rosary and he did provide this young man a forum for this good story. But speechless is good, sour faced ?, oh you couldn't be suggesting the praise of the TLM could have anything to do with that ?, heaven forfend !, hahaha
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@@RickW-HGWT He's a modernist who thinks that Jesus Christ is the "privileged" path to Salvation. Even the most ignorant of Protestants can understand how nonsensical that is.
He found the pearl of great price
Well said! Deo Gratias!
He absolutely describes this perfectly! He found the words to describe my own experience! God bless him !
Grateful for this eloquence. I try to explain the same thing and just get blank stares some times. Thank you Shia. Can you imagine if Hollywood could be righted by talented faithful like Shaia, Mel Gibson, James Caviezel? Pack your bags, Satan!
@@dariaschooler I know it ! It is so exciting! St Padre Pio pray for us . Ave Maria 🌹🙏
From Jewish to Catholic. Now this is wonderful
this is the learning time for Baron.
Indeed! I hope it opens his eyes
God bless you! ❤️
I’m a cradle Catholic, and I love it so much. Latin Mass makes me cry, and feel so holy. It’s absolutely beautiful.. ❤️
Spoken like a true disciple of Christ.❤️
Thanks be to God!
@@TheJoyoftheFaith This god?
*This website is designed to spread the vicious truth about the Bible. For far too long priests and preachers have completely ignored the vicious criminal acts that the Bible promotes. The so called God of the Bible makes Osama Bin Laden look like a Boy Scout. This God, according to the Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children.* I have included references to the Biblical passages, so grab your Bible and follow along.
*It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said Thou shall not kill.* For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
*Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!* In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). ***This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.***
***Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK.*** If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself. *Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:* For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it (Matthew 19:12). *I don’t know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.*
The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.
*And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear:* It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid (Luke 16:17). There are many more quotes on this topic at my Do Not Ignore the Old Testament web page.
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Watch *"Context!!!!!!"* by NonStampCollector
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Wonderful to hear this exchange and Bishop Barron had the grace to stumble through it; Shia, thank you for staying with what you believe, uncompromising, truthful for you, and for sooo many of us that have returned to Latin Mass once we realized it still existed; Jorge Bergolio awakened a sleeping giant and the genie will never be put back into the bottle. Our heavenly Father has His ways.
Stumble
@@merryarttoonesakamarysusan559 yes stumble, the modernist progressive nearly fell out of his chair or were you not paying attention to Barons obvious verbal gymnastics? Come on.
It bothers me that Bishop Barron said it's "like watching a show" when attending the TLM. There is participation by the laity through things like periodic kneeling and receiving communion. And if people were attending a low Mass, the Leonine prayers at the end are a great source of participation by the laity. Really it's as participatory as you make it. It's not the fault of the TLM if people attending are being lazy or that they don't understand that they are at the foot of the cross witnessing the unbloody renewal of Christ's passion. Mass is not about the laity. There was no problem with the TLM, and those allegedly problems were just alibis for the modernists to implement the Bogus Ordo. All the proof that is needed to highlight the Bogus Ordo's deficiency is in witnessing the fruits of it. Even those unicorn "reverent Novus Ordo Masses" aren't good, as they come off as diet TLMs at best. Why compromise with a "reverent Novus Ordo Mass" when you can get the real deal in the Mass that nourished so many saints?
Welcome home Shia and thank you for praying for his conversion in heaven! God is so good!
I can feel his excitement. That's exactly how I felt when I found the Latin Mass.
He has such perfect perception of this topic. What a glorious conversion. Thanks be to God
I totally agree!
Having heard Shi’a’s description is the Tridentine mass for a second time leads me to believe his words were inspired by the grace of the Holy Spirit. It was perfectly explained why some of us love it and want to be a part of it. If you prefer the NO that’s ok with me but I would love for my bishop to hear Shia’s words and allow out parish to once again have Latin mass a measly once a month. That’s how it used to be, Saturday morning full of people who crave it and benefit from it.
Shia: Latin Mass affects me deeply
Baron: Why?
Shia: Because it doesn't feel like they're selling me a car
LOOOOOOL So true. Based! Hope you stick with it Shia. God bless.
I miss Latin Mass, growing up I was an altar boy and we always had Latin Mass every day.
Dude. This video fired me up like I haven't been in a long time. I don't even fully know why. Praise be to God, we have a new brother.
Amen!!!
Like totally awesome dude. Radical brah
I enjoyed the entire video and I keep sending it to my children it's amazing
It is! Thanks be to God!
I hope my brother will take well to this. I tried to push my beliefs on him two years ago and probably sounded corny when I was excited I found my faith 😅
You realy promote this child molesters. Don't you should protect your children?
Shia is right.
He feels sacred when in a Latin Mass.
Congrats. I go with the institute too - but in a different part of the world.
Bishop Barron tried but Shia told his sacred experience.
Congrats and welcome Shia.
Thank God for using this kid to get the word out about how wonderful the Traditional Mass is.
Thanks be to God!!
That’s the beauty of Latin Mass. it stirs you inside and you want to attend again. Even though you don’t understand the language itself, it’s just something that you know deep
Inside. It’s more solemn, more personal and more contemplative.
this is great. he jumped right into the right end of Catholicism.
It would have been nice if he had actually become a Catholic via religious instruction or RCIA before he started receiving the Eucharist. He is receiving unworthily and that isn't anything to be proud of. This is the height of selling out the faith.
If only this were the end of Catholicism
There is more rejoicing in Heaven over 1 repentant sinner than 99 just! It's awesome that Shia has become a Catholic and also loves the TLM... and of all people to express it to 🤣 I pray that bishop Barren will turn away from modernism.
Wow!! Out of the mouths of babes!! Latin Mass, Divine ☀️💛 Brisbane Australia
I can't believe we're seeing God's work explicitly before our eyes! Hope isn't lost people! Even I this day in age!
Bishop Baron, what has all this “active participation “ accomplished the past 50 years ?
Show us the good fruits.
I have much greater participation in the Latin Mass
The majesty of the Latin rite as theatre just befuddles me to no end. Who complained?
I agree. I do not see it as theatre in any way
I thought that was a strange way to describe TLM as well. The bishops just don't "get" it unless they've actually participated in a Latin Mass themselves. If it's just a like a show, why aren't we entertained? I find that the N.O. in too many instances is more like a show (circus) than the Latin Mass. Shia hit the nail on the head, the Latin Mass is otherworldly, it's something special with different language and different music.
@@mrsl5514 the who has been a subject of study that has revealed a dark suppressed history that explains much in my life I won't go into here.
The Latin Mass it makes me always feel extraordinary. It's a very spiritual experience
Thanks be to God!!
I wish there was a Latin mass closer to my home. One day it will be the norm again. ♥️
Wow, Shia's words to Bishop Barron were articulate, insightful, and probably inspired by the Holy Spirit! Praised be Jesus! Mother Mary and St. Padre Pio, please pray for us, and keep helping Shia!
Born and raised novus ordo, it took me 28 years of my life to find out what the TLM was and that it was the original way the mass was sort of done. And I wish more masses were like that because the novus ordo makes me forget that mass and Eucharist is sacred.
It took me 42 years to attend my first Latin Mass as I did not know it existed. Sitting at last row ... having no clue ... I said to myself at some point: Wow - is this what it should feel? I felt the presens.
That is now 12 years ago. Thanks to the pandemic ... I am now at home where I want to be. Even my wife asks me if I am going to Mass...
“I want to be and to stay Catholic. So why am I required to suppress our seminary? Why am I required to suppress our Sacerdotal Fraternity of Saint Pius X? Why am I required not to perform these ordinations? There is only one reason: to bring me into line with this policy. They want me to lend a hand in this destruction of the Church, to join in this communion which, for the Church, is adultery. I will not be an adulterer. I will Keep my Catholic Faith!
That is why I refuse. I refuse to collaborate in the destruction of the Church. I refuse to collaborate in loss of faith, in the general apostasy. I know perfectly well that if I do not perform these ordinations, if I stop, I shall be given nothing.
Ordination sermon of June 29, 1977”
― Marcel Lefebvre
@@steinfonell4915 So you are no longer interested in attending the TLM?
What a sad thing to say. You should come to my church. You would not feel that way.
I love this!! I am currently in Spain and I can’t understand the words but I am transported by the feeling into a realmof just peace & joy and being
I attend Latin Mass. I love it.
Loved this interview. 🤗 Hope this will convert many ppl to the real mass, because it's not about us, it's about worship, honoring and giving all the glory to the King of Kings. We need to go back to tradition. 🙏🏼💞
We forget that the Mass is not about us, our feelings and our likings and preferences….the Mass is about worshiping God🙏🏻
I think that's what people here and Shia were trying to convey.
The NO is about " community". The TLM draws one into worship.
So it's not the preference of music or language that draws people to the TLM. It's that the NO doesn't seem to be about worship.
In Holy Mass we pray together and with our whole bodies and our senses engaged. We pray inside and outside.
Good stuff! Been waiting for him to convert!!
Thanks be to God!!
Praise God.
I’m so happy for him.
*Shia LaBeouf*
He’s a Catholic
*Shia LaBeouf*
Yes! Thanks be to God!
i grew up in the latin mass, another language, interpretation into english makes it an understanding of what God did, feelings are great but understanding of these feeling makes it real where God is visible in my mind and can follow the mass with more understanding of what God the Father did for us and what he wants us to do with what we know that is to share His love, love is God. feelings, emotion are very good and important but these feelings and emotions can change with our circumstance, faith and knowing who he is lasts a lifetime knowing he purchased us with his body and blood to be with him in his kingdom forever
Amen 🙏
I always knew what was going on at latin mass even in grammar school. This snooty attitude that the laity didn't understand what was happening at latin mass is quite arrogant and perpetrated by intellectuals. It's a kind of intellectual virtue signaling.
Since mass has been not only translated into the vernacular but dumbed down considerably Catholics seem to know less about the faith than my grandmother's largely illiterate immigrant peers. They at least knew that the Eucharist was the real body + blood of Christ.
The latin mass wasn't just about feelings or smells + bells. It conveyed a truth that the Novus Ordo seems to miss.
The Novus Ordo was an intellectual exercise based on suppositions of the elite/ academics about the " ordinary" man.
I loved what Shia said about finding a great band, vs having the band pushed on you. This was exactly my experience when I returned to the faith, and this is exactly the experience Jesus described in Matthew 13 when He compared the kingdom of God to being like a man who found a pearl of great value and sold everything to have it; and the man who found treasure, buried it, and bought the whole field.
Beautifully put 🙏💖
Yes, very well put!
We have latin mass up in Portland and it has changed my spiritual life.
To go through a rite in a different language and then claim that it has had a greater impact on you suggests to me that the whole experience is anti biblical and anti Christian.
@@geordiewishart1683 All the prayers have translations and many of them are the same as the vernacular version. However there are more prayers in the latin rite and when you pray more, you receive more graces. It's also more reverent to God than the modern rite. In what way could it be anti biblical and anti Christian? From what charity does this criticism come?
The Mass itself is blasphemous, claiming to re-sacrifice Christ as though his death on the cross was all sufficient.
It is finished, he said.
Why do you suppose that speaking in a dead language is more reverend to God?
Why Latin?
Rome was the centre of so much paganism.
Little has changed.
Do you have so little faith in the unseen that you need your senses beguiled by the unbiblical spectacle that is the Romish mass?
Hardly a reenactment of the last supper.
Unbelievable and God give us all Mercy and Love! Ave Maria!
I grew up with the Latin Mass, I love the Mass in Latin. We were taught what was happening, so we understood what was being said. The Mass is a reenactment of the Last Supper. It’s beautiful.
Abslotely LOVE the Latin Mass - since I found it - four years ago. I had tears of joy running down my face - I felt I was finally home ! And I was born and raised Catholic in Poland ! I find the TLM extremely masculine, royal and beautiful ❤️✝️👑 Refuse to take The Holy Communion from a waman ever since - and I am a woman myself. Deo Gratias ! 🙏😇
Born and raised catholic. Went to catholic school all my life. I have only HEARD of Latin mass and now I feel like I’m missing out. Mass (to me) has become “reliable” in good and bad ways. I know what’s happening and it’s almost the same thing every time (which is comforting) but I don’t have that feeling as Shia talks about where I can feel and let go. Now I need to find a Latin mass in my area!
I. Don't think bishop Barron has any idea how the Latin Mass affects us
I hope that one day he will 🙏🙏🙏
I learned about SHIA a few months ago. His name was mentioned by a Priest who was celebrating Holy Mass, on the day of The Solemnity of Christ. In his Homily he spoke about We were created, we are captured( our fallen humanity) We've been rescued, and most importantly, what is Our Response? He goes on to say, "I know you think these words are from long ago and you think they don't apply to us in this modern world." He then speaks of SHIA, a famous actor whose life has been transformed NOW in our times!! So here I am now learning about SHIA, and the Padre PIO Movie, that I've yet to see. Hearing about his conversion , his experience is moving me closer to Christ!!!❤❤
Great to hear! It is encouraging to see
Some miracles
1.Euchariatic miracles
2.Miracles of Lourdes
3.Our Lady of Fatima
4.Hiroshima Rosary miracle
5.Lepanto rosary victory
6.Our Lady of Guadalupe
7.Liquifaction of blood of St Janerius
8.Miracles of St. Anthony
9.Stigmatas of saints
10.Levitation os St Joseph of Cupertino
These and so many, many more!!
Kinda sound like Satan has been busy
@@geordiewishart1683 : Fr Gabriel Amorth, who passed away in 2016, was the Chief Exorcist @ the Vatican for decades. During one of the exorcisms, he asked a demon how many were they. The demon responded that if we could see them, they would be able to block out the sun. He wrote several books on the subject, which seems excellent.
The demons are all around us, and it is through His Grace of Mass, Confession, prayers, Litanies, Sacramentals, etc, that we are kept safe. Never deny the existence of Evil. Life is a constant battle, for which we have such spiritual help in which to turn for strength.
@@geordiewishart1683 satan is busy living inside you
Listen to these two contrasting ideas:
1. It feels like I found something special.
2. You wouldn't want to be exclusive.
Unique, or special things, by their very definition are exclusive.
If a man stands in one spot for 10 minutes, he is standing in that spot to the exclusion of all other places to stand.
Due to his comments on Latin Mass , I will now retroactively rank Samuel Witwicky as one of my Top 10 Human characters in Transformers .
Thanks be to God. I must confess that I recently have fallen in love with the Traditional Latin Mass. The first time I attended the Traditional Latin Mass was August of 2018. I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass since late March of 2021. Unfortunately Pope Francis and my Bishop Cardinal Milton Gregory has cancelled / suspended the Traditional Latin Mass. You can not suspend or cancel the tradition of 2,022 years of history. Six churches are being affected by the suspension of the Traditional Latin Mass in my community. 💔💔💔
Wow! Newcomer and he gets it! Welcome home,, Shia LaBeouf! Thanks be to God!
Thanks be to God!!
I loooove this. Wowowow. Can’t wait for Padre Pio!!!
Dude! Same! First Latin mass last week. Speak it brother.
Radical dude. Awesome brah
A great witness to the beauty and reverence of the Latin Mass. A raw and truthful heart felt love for the Latin mass and tradition.
God bless you I hope the Pope and many Cardinal and Bishops get to hear this.
Thanks be to God for this conversion. It's clear his next real step is humility, detachment from self. Reminds me of my conversion, but I was stupid, prideful, slow to understand... I kept using Catholicism as another means of building and exonerated my ego. He's near a lot of good people, and I hope he doesn't have to go through such a phase.
Praying for Shia and his journey. TLM is amazing!
I'm so happy he converted!!
I agree 100% with Shia, Latin Mass is more reverent. The Novus Ordo mass at the church that I attended started to be more about the music and less about Jesus. One couldn’t even pray because the music was just to loud. Fr. Barron and many other priest need to go back to traditional mass and it’s teachings.
I am fairly certain Shia has previously been to a black mass, which makes more Glory to God 🎉🎶🤩for his extremely deep personal conversion❣️I can see his light shining in his explanation of TLM. Jesus lives in him now🙏🏻
Great points! Let’s hope he continues to grow in the faith!
@@TheJoyoftheFaith He is on the Prayer list!
This is my source for the Latin holy sacrifice of the Mass: Pope St Pius V Congregation in Oyster Bay, NY
Excellent website! Pre-Vatican II!
These dedicated Bishops and Priests travel to locations around the country to offer the true celebration of Holy Mass in Latin! God bless us all! 🙏
This is so joyful 🙏✝️🛐🙏✨🌹✨🕊️🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌Happy Day Welcome Shia I love your work and always felt you are a deep person
❤️❤️❤️I Love The Mass I have never been to a completely Latin Mass but would like to go someday!!!
Shia is right you don't need to know the words. That was exactly my first experience of the Latin Mass. I found Latin Mass and I'm not looking back.
I could not explain what I feel about the Latin Mass as well as he did!
Exactly 'takes me out of the realm of the intellilectual and puts me into the realm of the feeling' - that's exactly right! When you aren't necessarily all up in the head with the words but are receiving(feeling) the frequency and vibration of what is being offered as it is a matter of the heart not the head. The Traditional Latin Mass is something you recieve. It's something that you feel. It's authentic and that is why people respond to it the way they do.
This was a great interview 💙 I hope to experience my first TLM soon 🙏
I hope so too!
I appreciate Bishop Barron . He gave the balance for sure .
I wish I understood the Latin Mass as deeply as he is describing!
Deo Gratias!
Just go at least once a week for a while and learn to use the missal. Then go twice a week. And after a while you’ll be able to close your eyes and know what’s going on
Hi, Rosie Girl, that's Precisely WHY the N O is the answer.
Look at Africa and Asia beyond the Anglo Saxon backyard and SEE how the devoutly celebrated N O rite is bringing countless non Catholics to Experience and Love JESUS through the Baptism of Desire ( Religious conversion is banned). I live among them.
Read Matthew 8 : 11-12 to know who will Really enter HIS Kingdom.
@@marietheresa7866
I respectfully, disagree.
If you listened closely, he goes on in the full interview, explaining how moving the Latin Mass is, that the words aren't quite as important.
You don't need to know Latin to understand that there is an emotional and spiritual aspect to the Mass!
One other point...
Jesus says to be baptized and believe. He then goes on and tells us how to be baptized..
With water...just as He was baptized by John the Baptist in the Jordan River.
Though I do believe there is baptism by desire.
Example: If you were on your way yo the Church to be baptized and you were killed in an accident on your way. (Which would be horrible!)
God bless you my friend! 🌹
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 It shows your ignorance. Have you been to any NO Mass in Africa and Asia ? If yes, what is your frequency of attendance to conclude that you observation is significant empirically to be a credible conclusion?
This is awesome. One of my favorite actors since childhood expressing his love for the Mass and the Catholic faith. And here I am, lapse and without meaning. Perhaps it's time to go back home.
Welcome home Shia ❤️✝️
Welcome Shai! Stick with the LatinMass brother
It’s the most beautiful mystery you’ll ever experience
God bless you
Amen! Thanks be to God!!
What?!?! Since when in the world did Shia LeBeouf even become Catholic, much less a Latin Mass Catholic. Wow. He needs to hook up with Gibson, Caiviezel and Wahlberg. They all need to make movies about the beauty and truth of the one true church and the latin mass.
Mel Gibson directed him to the Latin Mass. Pretty sure he mentions it in the interview.
Padre Pío interceded hard and fast for Shia’s soul after learning that Hollywood is about to take a jab at telling his story. No average actor can dream of portraying Pio and do his character even slight justice without a full conversion of heart and a deep burning fire for Jesus, the TRUTH, and beauty of the Latin Mass nonetheless.
He's already discussed it with Gibson. They are good friends.
"To deny some of the senses, it heightens some of the others..."
as a 40 year guitarist. I never felt the instrument worked in a church. Organ yes, guitar, bass and drums no.
"The MASS of All Time" doesn't need translation... It's never been a show. Connection is through the valid Pristhood.
Liturgy is Public Prayer offered to God for Adoration, Contrition, Thanksgiving, and Supplication (ACTS)... The benefit to humanity is incalculable. 🕊
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No, I will not be sharing this. It’s smells rotten to me.
@@PhillyGirl-pt3vq Why does it smell to you?
The mass is not about your feelings, according to the bible it is work. So if the hate the 1970 form of the mass and it is all you have available, then you have to still attend the mass. Yet again you have trads follow a celebrity who clearly has not done the research. Take the English translation of the 1962 mass and compare it to the 1970 and you will discover that the entire Latin mass movement is a scam.
@@PhillyGirl-pt3vq La propaganda en contra de lo Que dice la Iglesia Catolica en comparacion a un actor mediocre que prende volver al cinema convirtiéndose al catolicismo y tratando de darnos una lección de lo que es la Misa .
Somo estupidos para seguir publicando este vídeo , con el motivo de seguir dividiendo a nuestra Iglesia Catolica y influyendo en aquellos que son tibios a dudar e Irse De la Iglesia ?
Estamos locos o que .
Un actor de Hollywood hablando de la misa en Latín ? Que es esto no tenemos santos para saber bien lo que significa la misa , imitar y seguir como guía en nuestras vidas ?
Quien es este tipo .
Un nuevo actor que se convirtió por su trabajo y su miseria , si como muchos de nosotros yyyyy?
Porque seguir con el jueguito del mal .
@@kathleenhamilton7608 I would say because of Bishop Barron is a Modernist
If you have the desire, you will learn what is being said and when it's being said, even in Latin.
The Latin Mass 2000 years 🙏🏼✝️🕊
Er no!
Church of Rome is not that old
Welcome to the Family Bro. Amen!
Love the TLM!
Thanks be to God!!
Yep, it's the real deal! The one and only true Mass! The Mass of All Ages! The Mass of the Saints! The Most Beautiful Thing This Side of Heaven!
For anyone wishing to learn Latin, Cambridge Latin Course book 1, is a good place to start.
The Vulgate is a Latin version of The Bible also.
Bishop Baron can’t escape the traditional Latin mass topic.
Indeed!